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Microsoft Fights Apple Trademark On 'App Store'

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the this-post-tagged-appstore dept.

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angry tapir writes "Microsoft is asking the US Patent and Trademark Office to deny Apple a trademark on the name 'App Store,' saying the term is generic and competitors should be able to use it. Apple applied for the trademark in 2008 for goods and services including 'retail store services featuring computer software provided via the internet and other computer and electronic communication networks' and other related offerings."

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FIRSTSTSTSTS (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34844826)

Yep!

Windows (5, Insightful)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844830)

Not quite as generic as "Windows" though, eh Microsoft?

Re:Windows (5, Funny)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844846)

Or "Word" eh?

Re:Windows (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34844956)

I agree with Microsoft on this one (as I'd guess all but the fan-boys would). 'App[lication] Store' is over the line in this day and age.

Re:Windows (1, Informative)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844916)

It's actually "Microsoft Windows", not "Windows".

Re:Windows (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34844926)

...right. But "Lindows" without the "Microsoft" was still infringing?! (It was settled out of court).

Re:Windows (4, Informative)

kimvette (919543) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845010)

"Settled out of court" translated to normal English really means "We would win against evil Microsoft if we had the funds to take this to the end, but sadly their lawyers are bleeding us dry with continual delays so we accepted their offer to settle."

Re:Windows (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845022)

Microsoft would disagree...

http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal/EN/US/IntellectualProperty/Trademarks/EN-US.aspx

"Microsoft" and "Windows" are two separate registered trademarks.

Re:Windows (3, Informative)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845134)

You're wrong. The US Patent and Trademarks Office doesn't let me link directly to it, so here's a cut and paste of Microsoft's Windows trademark.

Word Mark WINDOWS
Goods and Services IC 009. US 038. G & S: computer programs and manuals sold as a unit; namely, graphical operating environment programs for microcomputers. FIRST USE: 19831018. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19831018
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 74090419
Filing Date August 20, 1990
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition June 21, 1994
Registration Number 1872264
Registration Date January 10, 1995
Owner (REGISTRANT) Microsoft Corporation CORPORATION DELAWARE One Microsoft Way Redmond WASHINGTON 980526399
Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record William O. Ferron, Jr.
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL-2(F)
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR). SECTION 8(10-YR) 20050407.
Renewal 1ST RENEWAL 20050407
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Re:Windows (1)

OopsIDied (1764436) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844976)

Yeah but in the context of mobile devices, Windows is pretty non-generic while "App" is a shortened version of Application and so is very generic in the relevant context.

Re:Windows (1)

node 3 (115640) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845116)

"Windows" refers to the most generic thing in a GUI, the window. Also, "app" isn't the primary generic term for programs. "Programs" and "applications" are. In fact, a lot of geeks got tweaked by the cutesy shortening of the word "applications" into "apps", as popularized by Apple.

Re:Windows (4, Informative)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845268)

Is it? Then show me what mobile device company was using "App Store" before Apple did.

e.g. Nokia used "Software Marketplace"
Microsoft used marketplace too. "Windows Mobile Marketplace" etc.
Android uses "Android Market".

App Store seems like the obvious thing to call it now, because Apple have been so successful with it. But other companies were not wanting to use it till Apple got there first.

Re:Windows (4, Insightful)

Digana (1018720) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845000)

That's not how genericity of a trademark works. If Microsoft were in the business of selling large crystal panes that you can attach to walls to see through them, then yes, it couldn't call them "windows", because you're using the generic word for that product. It's just like Apple isn't selling produce, so they can use that common word as a trademark. The genericity of a trademark depends on the domain to which it is applied. In the case of "app store", Microsoft has a good case, because Apple is trying to trademark the general shortening of "application". I don't think the shortening of "application store" to "app store" will be able to withstand the attack of genericity.

Re:Windows (4, Informative)

node 3 (115640) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845138)

That's not how genericity of a trademark works. If Microsoft were in the business of selling large crystal panes that you can attach to walls to see through them, then yes, it couldn't call them "windows", because you're using the generic word for that product.

They don't sell "Windows: n. 1. transparent glass panes", but "Windows: n. 2. Primary graphical representations in a windowed GUI system".

Re:Windows (4, Insightful)

bondsbw (888959) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845188)

So, what do you call these generic rectangle user interfaces containing buttons such as Close, Minimize, and Maximize, and a title bar, client area, and grips used to resize such generic rectangle UI? I have an idea of what I would call it, but according to you I would owe Microsoft money for the use of the word.

Re:Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845280)

They have a trademark on "portal"?

Re:Windows (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845340)

The frames around an application's UI, that you can move around and such? Those were called "windows" in the trade press before Microsoft wrote their OS. A bit ago Microsoft sued Lindows claiming "Lindows" was too close to their "Windows" trademark. They dropped the suit when the judge said that the Lindows legal team had introduced enough evidence to call into question Microsoft's claim on the Windows trademark, and opted instead to buy the Lindows trademark for $20 million (the Lindows software is now called Linspire).

Still feeling quite so sure of your superiority to the OP?

Re:Windows (3, Insightful)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845342)

Back when Windows was trademarked, Microsoft's product was an application framework that let you create applications that ran in windows. Windows was as generic a term in computing then as it is in house construction now. It seemed absolutely ludicrous that Microsoft could trademark it. It might now seem so weird now, because we've got so used to it.

I don't think the shortening of "application store" to "app store" will be able to withstand the attack of genericity.

If "Windows" did, then "App Store" certainly will, if judgements are consistent.

Re:Windows (2)

vikisonline (1917814) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845030)

They should just call it the iApp Store.

Re:Windows (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845124)

M$ App store? :D

Though yeah, cool if they stole the word iApp ;D

Makes me wonder though, now when Apples market cap actually is bigger than Microsoft should we maybe switch?

iPhone$, iPad$, App$?

I don't see the problem for Microsoft. Why not call it Microsoft market? Microsoft store? Windows store? Mobile store? Exploitz'n'crapware'r'us?

Re:Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845060)

Not quite as generic as "Windows" though, eh Microsoft?

Early attempts to use a Mac like naming system like the "big cats" only Windows related was abandoned. The original name for Vista being "Curtains" however appropriate seemed unwise for a marketing strategy.

Microsoft App[le] Store (2, Interesting)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844840)

"Microsoft App Store" will always be "Microsoft App[le] Store" in my mind because Microsoft is (once again) playing catch-up.

Re:Microsoft App[le] Store (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845094)

Luckily they grought pre-emptive multi-tasking to the desktop which apple introduced in their OS a century after Microsoft did.

Re:Microsoft App[le] Store (1)

blau (759804) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845348)

Luckily they grought pre-emptive multi-tasking to the desktop [...]

LOL bullshit

Stores are often named for what they sell (1)

mykos (1627575) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844850)

Clothing store, department store, toilet store. What would be the obvious name for a store that sells apps?

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (3, Informative)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844884)

Huh? Department stores don't sell departments. And WTF is a toilet store?

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (1)

PatPending (953482) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844986)

Here are some Trademarks (some "live," some "dead) courtesy of http://tess2.uspto.gov/ [uspto.gov] :
A APP PLACE (cue Grammar Nazi)
APPS FOR LIFE
AUTO APP MART
APPS LIB
SMARTAPP
THE LAST KILLER APP
SEX APP SHOP ("Yeah, Baby!")
PREMIER APP SHOP
AT&T APPCENTER
THERE'S AN APP FOR THAT
APP MASTERS
DOTAPP
APP WORLD
.APP etc.

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845286)

It's where you got that suit!

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (1)

EvanED (569694) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844898)

The app store. But that's beside the point. You would be hard-pressed to find a place that's actually called "The Clothing Store" or "The Department Store", because they are almost certainly not trademarkable names: a competition could open right next door and call themselves "The Clothing Store" and the original store wouldn't be able to do anything about it. That is MS's argument.

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (2)

Jaxoreth (208176) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844910)

You would be hard-pressed to find a place that's actually called "The Clothing Store" or "The Department Store", because they are almost certainly not trademarkable names: a competition could open right next door and call themselves "The Clothing Store" and the original store wouldn't be able to do anything about it.

You've never heard of The Container Store?

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (1)

blackraven14250 (902843) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844920)

...or the "The Clothing Center".

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845006)

Huh? Department stores don't sell departments. And WTF is a toilet store?

You've never heard of The Container Store?

...or the "The Clothing Center".

... or "The Dump" [thedump.com] .

They sell what "Toilet Store" discards.

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (1)

m95lah (55920) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845058)

- How can I help you, sir?

- I'd like one department of agriculture, please. And how much are the departments of foreign affairs?

- ???

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (1)

Tharsman (1364603) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845102)

  • App Shop
  • App Market
  • App Marketplace
  • App Mall
  • App Dealer
  • Buy Apps
  • App Boutique
  • App Deli
  • App Emporium
  • App Outlet
  • App Repository
  • App Showroom,
  • App Stand
  • App Supershop

You can also try any of these replacing App with Soft, Software, Program, Executable (a bit geeky there) and any other App synonym you can think off.

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845192)

You can also try any of these replacing App with Soft, Software, Program, Executable (a bit geeky there) and any other App synonym you can think off.

Microsoft DRM'd 1's and 0's (optional: store.)

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (1)

amliebsch (724858) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845194)

What would be the obvious name for a store that sells apps?

A restaurant! And after my app, the entree!

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (0)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845290)

Just three or four years ago nobody had ever called a software program an "app". That term is new and unique to the iPhone. Software was sold as "software", "programs", and sometimes "software applications", but I had never heard the term "app" before the iPhone.

Go read the old marketing for the Blackberry, for Windows CE, for Palm. None of them use the term "app".
Just because the iPhone has such a dominant marketing position the term "app" has come to mean cell phone software.

Micro"SOFT" sells software. It's not MicroApp, is it?
Apple made a cute catchy term for it's programs. Let Microsoft try to do the same. I'm sure Microsoft marketing can come up with something catchy, like "There's an executable for that".

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (3, Insightful)

NiceGeek (126629) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845318)

You've honestly never heard the term "killer app"? It predates the iPhone by years.

Re:Stores are often named for what they sell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845334)

Just three or four years ago nobody had ever called a software program an "app". That term is new and unique to the iPhone. Software was sold as "software", "programs", and sometimes "software applications", but I had never heard the term "app" before the iPhone.

Go read the old marketing for the Blackberry, for Windows CE, for Palm. None of them use the term "app".
Just because the iPhone has such a dominant marketing position the term "app" has come to mean cell phone software.

Micro"SOFT" sells software. It's not MicroApp, is it?
Apple made a cute catchy term for it's programs. Let Microsoft try to do the same. I'm sure Microsoft marketing can come up with something catchy, like "There's an executable for that".

Actually OS X (and iOS) executables are .app /s. It's been this way since the NeXT days, ~30 years now.

other on line shoping sites had software downloads (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844860)

other on line shopping sites had software downloads before apple had the app store.

Re:other on line shoping sites had software downlo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34844882)

How is that possible? I mean, you're proposing that apple didn't invent something, that everything they do isn't new and magical and just gosh the best. Something must be wrong with your perception of reality...

Re:other on line shoping sites had software downlo (1, Insightful)

node 3 (115640) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845038)

Funny thing is it's never Apple or Apple fans that make this claim, just Apple detractors.

Re:other on line shoping sites had software downlo (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845190)

That's because Apple fans have their mouth too full of Steve Jobs' cock to say much. :)

Re:other on line shoping sites had software downlo (1)

CosmeticLobotamy (155360) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844890)

They're not claiming a patent on app stores, just a trademark on app stores called App Store. You can have a McDonalds Shoe Store and trademark it to prevent another shoe store from calling itself McDonalds, even if there have been other shoe stores and other McDonaldses for decades.

However this trademark is quite likely invalid, 'cause you probably can't trademark a shoe store called Shoe Store.

Re:other on line shoping sites had software downlo (0)

Renderer of Evil (604742) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844928)

That's not in dispute. Microsoft is mad because for once they can't legally copy something someone else popularized. Unlike GUIs, you can trademark words and phrases associated with a product or service.

Re:other on line shoping sites had software downlo (1)

Tharsman (1364603) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845120)

other on line shopping sites had software downloads before apple had the app store.

This is not a patent fight, it's a trademark fight. None of those software download stores decided to brand themselves App Store. Heck, I never heard anyone refer to software as Apps until the iPhone made the term popular. Everyone called it Software or Programs before.

Program Files Store (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34844868)

Hey Microsoft, why not use "Program Files Store"?

Re:Program Files Store (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845050)

Too confusing. Make it "My Program Files Store" and it's a deal, though.

'App' is actually short for 'Approved'.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34844870)

..in this case, as in: "All Your Apps are Approved By Steve", or UBOUGHTAPL-GOTSCREWD, for short.

Steve dont do Generic.

Re:'App' is actually short for 'Approved'.. (2)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845092)

..in this case, as in: "All Your Apps are Approved By Steve",

Nope, the "App" in Apple's "App Store" doesn't stand for approval -- I can't purchase approval from Apple, fortunately Google's repository gives me the benefit of the doubt...

You are required to purchase approval from MS to distribute a 64 bit driver for their new OSs, so if "app" stands for approval, of course they're pissed off -- MS practically builds their entire product line around charging for approval.

(Know why you can't run a decent sever on MS Windows Home? You have to "upgrade" because MS added limits to the number of concurrent connections... Pro = permission to run servers.)

Re:'App' is actually short for 'Approved'.. (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845210)

..in this case, as in: "All Your Apps are Approved By Steve", or UBOUGHTAPL-GOTSCREWD, for short.

Steve dont do Generic.

Fart sounding alarm clocks that actually work for instance after new years eve store?

How is it generic? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34844888)

I've been in tech since the early 90's and I've never heard of a product with the name "App Store" before Apple popularized it. The only generic phrases I know of involving the word are "Killer App" and "Net App"

By the same token, the word "bing" and "kin" are generic, although I find it unlikely anyone would want to use those toxic words at all.

Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (5, Informative)

mysidia (191772) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844914)

Pretty sure Sales Force [programmableweb.com] came first.

Back in 2006, when the iPhone was but a gleam in Steve Jobs' eye. And now there are lots of 'app stores'; including Apple's, but also including the Android app store, and others.

So... where is Apple's eligibility for using this descriptive non-creative name as a trademark, if they do not have exclusive use, first use, or even most famous use in commerce?

As far as I'm concerned, Apple's product is the iTunes App Store, which is specific and famous, but App Store is generic, and used by many organization's before and after Apple.

Actually.. when I think of "App Store", the first thing that comes to mind for most people is the Android App Store. If anyone should be awarded the trademark (and they should not), it should be Google.

Re:Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (4, Interesting)

znu (31198) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844962)

If users call it the "Android App Store", it's precisely because Apple popularized the "App Store" terminology. It would have to be, because Google doesn't call it that. Google calls it the "Android Marketplace".

Re:Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (-1, Troll)

Renderer of Evil (604742) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844970)

...App Store is generic, and used by many organization's before [...] Apple.

Cite your sources, mortal.

Re:Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (1)

sortadan (786274) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845004)

Cite your sources, mortal.

Isn't that why he links to the 2006 SalesForce press release? Apple's trademark application was in 2008...

Re:Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (0)

node 3 (115640) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845068)

The press release cited "AppStore" and is not an example of "many organization's [sic]", just one.

Re:Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845216)

Where is the -1 pedantic?

Re:Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34844988)

Actually.. when I think of "App Store", the first thing that comes to mind me is the Android App Store.

FTFY

lol. ignorant much? when has the Android Market ever been referred to as "Android App Store"...

Also the "iTunes App Store" is totally wrong. There is nothing but "App Store" and "Mac App Store". iTunes is a totally separate application (although the desktop version of iTunes does let you buy/sync iOS app content.. and only iOS app content which isn't even for desktop)

Re:Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (0)

node 3 (115640) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845086)

Actually.. when I think of "App Store", the first thing that comes to mind for most people is the Android App Store.

More people run iOS than run Android. Why would iOS users think about Android's store? I'd bet most iOS users don't even know there *is* an Android app store (called the Android Marketplace, btw).

If anything, I'd wager more Android users think of "App Store" as referring to Apple's store than there are iOS users that even know what Android's primary store is called.

Re:Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845278)

Actually.. when I think of "App Store", the first thing that comes to mind for most people is the Android App Store. If anyone should be awarded the trademark (and they should not), it should be Google.

There is no Android App Store. Do you perhaps mean the Android Marketplace?

Even the first hit in Google calls it the market, as does the URL.

Android.com - Market
Android Market. This is a showcase for some of the featured and top ranked ... If you are a developer, learn about publishing your application here. ...
www.android.com/market/ - Cached - Similar

They even refer to applications with the full word...

Then there is the second hit in Google:

AppStoreHQ - iPhone, Android, and mobile web applications and ...
Latest iPhone, Android, and mobile web applications and reviews from blogs ...
www.appstorehq.com/

AppStoreHQ, which started and named after Apple's store, a couple years ago before Android existed.
They only added other platforms later, including other phones which existed before and during the time of iPhone.

The first mention of Android App Store is specifically by Amazon, which was only like a month or two ago, so clearly not original.

Re:Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (1)

syousef (465911) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845292)

>

Back in 2006, when the iPhone was but a gleam in Steve Jobs' eye.

Way back as far as then huh? Way to make a not quite middle age yet guy feel OLD. Man, it must be time for my midlife crisis. Bring on the bimbo and the sports car.

Re:Apple was not first user of name 'App Store' (2)

HeraldMage (50053) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845366)

The Android App Store?? Since when? I've never heard it called that, at least officially, in any trade press, IT journals, etc. Android [android.com] calls it (and always has) the Android Market. The Microsoft Zune has the Zune Marketplace. So I'm sorry but I don't see why Apple can't use App Store, especially when Microsoft gets to hold separate trademarks for Office, Word, Windows (note, the Microsoft and the other word each are separate trademarks).

I don't know who to pull for. (5, Funny)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844944)

I'm a former Mac user, so I hate Apple.
I actually give a damn about stability, so I hate Microsoft.

It's like watching zombies and vampires fight. No matter who loses, I cheer.

LK

Re:I don't know who to pull for. (2)

TD-Linux (1295697) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845186)

It's like watching zombies and vampires fight. No matter who loses, I cheer.

No matter who loses, I run.

Re:I don't know who to pull for. (1)

Funnnny (1409625) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845242)

No matter who loses, we will have a new generation of zombie, the one who fly and drink blood, but never die omg

The exe store (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34844946)

Since all GUI applications have a .app extension. App only came into common use after apple opened the App store and everyone started referring to mobile programs as Apps. It's like trying to claim the name Xerox is a generic common name for a photo copier.

If they want to open a store they should call it an Exe Store.

Re:The exe store (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845076)

Sounds like you bought that idea at the Toilet Store!

Microsoft's Innovation at it's best. (-1, Troll)

AftanGustur (7715) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844960)

You have probably heard this before, but apart from the Blue Screen of Death and "Palladium" that was quickly renamed to NGSCB, when people found out about it, MIcrosoft hasn't really invented much itself.

But it has a big marketing department and many many lawyers to pompensate for the fact.

Re:Microsoft's Innovation at it's best. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845028)

Microsoft has about 16,830 U.S. patents (not applications; those are separate) while Apple has 3,659. (Source: USPTO)

Laughable (1)

ThisIsNotMyHandel (1013943) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844980)

Laughable coming form the company that sued Mike Rowe into the ground for using his own name un an URL.

Re:Laughable (1)

Your.Master (1088569) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845140)

Sued him into the ground? He used his name plus Soft, specifically in order to sound like Microsoft, on purpose. Microsoft offered to pay the $10 it cost him to register the domain name. He asked for $10000, which was fairly preposterous. The settlement was Microsoft paying the $10, plus giving him some software, an xbox, and a vacation.

Meanwhile, Apple is using the most obvious generic term for a store that sells apps, App Store, as a trademark. The only defense (IANAL; I'm talking about common sense defense) I can see is whether App was in popular use for application/program/software/etc. before Apple started using it. It kind of was in popular use (especially in the portmanteau "webapp") but perhaps not to the degree it was post-iPhone app store. That's really more of an argument for trademarking App itself, though.

To be fair (4, Interesting)

Andy Smith (55346) | more than 3 years ago | (#34844990)

I'm no Apple fan, but to be fair, when I hear "app store", I think of Apple. When I hear of another company's service being referred to as an "app store", I think of Apple. Apple has made the term "app store" what it is. I don't think Microsoft would be too pleased about Apple beinging out their new Windows interface for iDevices.

Re:To be fair (1)

jcl-xen0n (1926472) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845148)

Bizarrely, my (tech-illiterate) father thought the "app" part was a contraction of "Apple" and kept referring to it as the Apple Store (I guess he'd never been into a B&M Apple Store location...)

Re:To be fair (1, Interesting)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845314)

I'm no Apple fan, but to be fair, when I hear "app store", I think of Apple. When I hear of another company's service being referred to as an "app store", I think of Apple. Apple has made the term "app store" what it is. I don't think Microsoft would be too pleased about Apple beinging out their new Windows interface for iDevices.

That's funny... When I hear "app store" i think: $_ =~ s/app(lication)? store/repository/;

I've been using software repositories with Unix and Linux long before Apple decided to put a repo on a phone.

Point being: I guess association depends on what name it was introduced to you as, and on what device/platform when you first encountered the idea of software repositories.

'cmon, we all know Apple is trademark happy -- snapping up all i*, and *pod names, including established names like podcast -- No, I don't think trademarking generic terms, or terms that are already established is acceptable. Let them have "Apple App Store", doesn't roll off the tongue, but in commercials they can just say, "our app store".

Making a joke of the Trademark system?
Apple's got crap for that.

Applications (1)

ian_from_brisbane (596121) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845118)

Before iPhone, the term 'app' was not really known or used by commonfolk. Now that it is a widely known term, I'd be willing to bet that a large portion of the population thinks it stands for 'Apple'.

Re:Applications (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 3 years ago | (#34845378)

Before iPhone, the term 'app' was not really known or used by commonfolk. Now that it is a widely known term, I'd be willing to bet that a large portion of the population thinks it stands for 'Apple'.

Say what? Depends on what you mean by "common" and "folk". The folk I associate with commonly use "app" to mean "application". Eg: "This web app seems slow", and have done so long before Apple began selling phones.

Is Apple just trademarking common words like "podcast" and "app" to make up for some type of insecurity?
Is it tacked on like Kongie's Dong?

penis shaped tablet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34845262)

with miniture penis chair for it to sit in.

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