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Wireless GeForce Graphics Card Announced

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the i-got-no-strings dept.

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arcticstoat writes "PC gamers who are sick of being constantly distracted by whirring fans could now have a helping hand from a new wireless graphics card. Galaxy sub-brand KFA2 has announced a graphics card with no display outputs. Instead, the KFA2 GTX 460 WHDI uses a wireless link to send the display output from your PC to your screen, whether that's a conventional monitor or the HD TV in your lounge. You just need to attach the bundled receiver to the back of your chosen screen and you're done. With a wireless keyboard and mouse, you could place your PC at the other end of the room, letting you crank up those fans without having to listen to the whirring next to you."

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Encryption? (5, Funny)

operagost (62405) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848168)

I don't see anything about encryption. Are you supposed to broadcast your donkey porn to the neighbor in the open?

Re:Encryption? (2)

olehenning (1090423) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848206)

Well, I'm a bit of an exebitionist, so yes!

Re:Encryption? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848566)

Well, I'm a bit of an exebitionist, so yes!

"Exhibitionist"

Re:Encryption? (1)

nbacon (84848) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848856)

At a guess - the spelling was intentional....

Re:Encryption? (5, Informative)

spec8472 (241410) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848282)

From TFA, it supports HDCP 2.0 - so it's encrypting that content, at least.

You'll need to set HDCP policies for your donkey porn from now on. (Please)

Re:Encryption? (1)

ianare (1132971) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848382)

The article does say that

The WHDI standard supports HDCP 2.0, so it can route protected content (Blu-ray films, for example) without a problem.

However, the device outputs uncompressed / unmodified video. This means if the video is protected or encrypted, it will be safe, otherwise you're sending out in the clear.

Re:Encryption? (5, Funny)

couchslug (175151) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848684)

"Are you supposed to broadcast your donkey porn to the neighbor in the open?"

Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your video feed.

Re:Encryption? (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848834)

I'm pretty sure it'll have that.

Otherwise I could set up my own tv station - at least for a limited range. And nobody* wants that.

*MPAA

Re:Encryption? (1)

mikael (484) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849410)

Perfect for use in a building with a communal cable/aerial system, such as a high-rise apartment block. That's where most of the pirate radio stations would start up.

Re:Encryption? (4, Funny)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849114)

I don't see anything about encryption. Are you supposed to broadcast your donkey porn to the neighbor in the open?

You're not supposed to, but it is appreciated.

Re:Encryption? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34849526)

do people still remember that hdmi and other cables exist, and so you can put the pc in one room, and the tv in the other, and then no noise???

Re:Encryption? (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849548)

I don't see anything about encryption. Are you supposed to broadcast your donkey porn to the neighbor in the open?

Just make sure the first few seconds of video you play are a Carrot Top video. Nobody will be watching after that. Ever.

More sensible option (2)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848176)

If noise is your only reason for doing this, just get a decent pair of in-ear or fully enclosed headphones.

Re:More sensible option (1)

zero.kalvin (1231372) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848194)

That will save him a lot of money. If the only problem is noise.

Re:More sensible option (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848376)

Yep, it's a cool tech, but I think the ideal use is for tidy HTPC or presentation type setups, rather than gaming. It's an option of course, but I'd rather spend the money elsewhere.

Re:More sensible option (3, Insightful)

TheCRAIGGERS (909877) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848406)

For less money, you can get some sound-dampening parts for your case and have the best of all worlds. Some silicone grommets, a little foam, and some bigger fans can do wonders for noise. I can barely hear the difference between my PC being on or off.

Re:More sensible option (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848210)

Or a 15-foot long HDMI cable from Monoprice or a similar discount supplier. Seems much cheaper and not as subject to RF interference.

Re:More sensible option (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848596)

yep I send HDMI and usb through the wall - the computer is in a closet in another room

Re:More sensible option (2)

SirMasterboy (872152) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849056)

Exactly, I have a 25' HDMI cable running from my PC in my bedroom to my Denon receiver in my living room. Then another 20' HDMI cable running from my receiver to my projector. Also have a 30' USB cable running from my PC to a hub under my couch where I connect various peripherals as well as my wireless mouse/keyboard receiver.

Even when I don't close the door to my bedroom I can't hear it anymore.

Cost of High-speed 22GA HDMI cable is only a dollar a foot on Monoprice.

Re:More sensible option (1)

tycoex (1832784) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849372)

I can see how this would be useful for me. IF the technology was perfected so it didn't cause any lag and I could just buy an adapter without replacing my whole graphics card I would consider it. My computer sits up on my entertainment stand next to my ps3, dvd player, ect. My monitor, wireless keyboard, and wireless mouse sit on a laptop stand (basically a TV tray with wheels) in front of the couch. Basically I get the same experience as using a laptop on the couch but with my desktop. Unfortunately, I have to run a cord across the living room to the back of my computer to plug the monitor in. It's not a huge deal but It would definitely be nice if the monitor was as wireless as my mouse and keyboard. I don't know if these already exist but I would also need a battery-powered monitor, since I'd still have the power cord running across the room.

Re:More sensible option (4, Insightful)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848300)

Or just buy a good liquid-cooling system. With some of the better ones, the sound of the hard drive spinning makes more noise than the cooling system.

Re:More sensible option (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848420)

Also SSD HD's?

Re:More sensible option (2)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848672)

I got a case with a mesh top, and a ridiculous zalman heatsink [newegg.com] . Installed the heatsink so that the cpu fan pointed up and out of the case (through the open top), and the case fans hardly ever turn on at all.

My only problem is that the cat likes to sleep on top of the case now, but the case fan kicking in scares him off.

usb turret + kinect = autoturret!!! (4, Funny)

alta (1263) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848800)

If you were a REAL hacker type you'd get one of those USB nerf turret thingies, and a Kinect, and write a program to scan for your cat's heat signature and blast it every time it comes nearby. (or maybe a $10 spygear motion alarm would be cheaper, but nearly as cool)

Re:usb turret + kinect = autoturret!!! (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849466)

K.I.S.S.

All you need is a second mesh, a spring, and a piece of wire running from the power supply to the top mesh and another running from the bottom mesh to the fan. Cat sits on computer, fan comes on. Simple and elegant.

Re:usb turret + kinect = autoturret!!! (1)

dave420 (699308) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849632)

Or glue a Rottweiler to the case.

Re:usb turret + kinect = autoturret!!! (1)

Beardo the Bearded (321478) | more than 3 years ago | (#34850012)

Even simpler:

Put spikes on the top of the case. Cat will not sit on computer twice.

Re:More sensible option (2, Insightful)

Rhys (96510) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848778)

You're doing it wrong: SSDs don't spin.

Re:More sensible option (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34849034)

> You're doing it wrong: SSDs don't spin.

They do when you throw them off the balcony!

Re:More sensible option (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34849140)

I use my SSD on a merry-go-round, you insensitive clod!

Re:More sensible option (1)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849474)

Show me an SSD that can store all of my data, and I'll show you a hard drive that can do the same at a tenth the cost.

Yes, an SSD works wonderfully for storing frequently-accessed data, like the OS or always-running programs. However, I have yet to find a hard drive that can fit all my data that doesn't cost a small fortune. At some point, the diminishing returns outweigh the cost - sure, I could cut the noise by 5db and access my photos 20% faster, but it would cost more than a small car.

Re:More sensible option (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34849636)

So put OS on small SDD/usb drive. Put video files on large HDD in the other room where your non-htpc, 5 y/o desktop is. Call that a media server. Fin.

Re:More sensible option (1)

bubkus_jones (561139) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849496)

They also cost 3-4 (or more) times the amount per gig of a normal drive.

Hell, I've seen a 2tb normal drive go for the same price as a 64gb SSD.

Re:More sensible option (1)

DMUTPeregrine (612791) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849356)

Or a good air-cooling system. I have a core i7 930 and a radeon 5850, and my pc hits about 23dB at idle, 26 under load iirc. Antec P183 case and a scythe mugen2 heatsink/fan end up quite quiet. Properly using baffles in a good case can redirect the airflow to be more efficient with less turbulence, leading to vastly decreased noise, even compared to other systems with large (120mm) fans only.

Re:More sensible option (1)

eleuthero (812560) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848302)

Noise would be the least of my reasons to do this... If induction powered monitors would work with this without the RF interference issue being a problem, a monitor (or TV or whatever) could sit by itself without cables causing fire hazards (not too likely if properly used) or looking unsightly. I wish there were one cable to rule them all... If I could plug one cable into the back of my TV and then have it connect through the surge protector to all the other devices (dvd, etc.), I would like it. Instead I have a mass of cables that is almost three inches thick.

Re:More sensible option (1)

wastedlife (1319259) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848880)

Could you enlighten me on how a video or audio cable are a fire hazard? I've never heard of one that didn't carry a minimal amount of DC power. I will grant you that if you have a tangle of wires including power cables that it could create a potential fire hazard.

Re:More sensible option (1)

korgitser (1809018) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848324)

If noise is your only reason for doing this, just get a decent pair of in-ear or fully enclosed headphones.

If noise is your only reason for doing this, just get a decent pair of 120mm fans.

Re:More sensible option (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848704)

Are those just for the case, or is one for the GPU too? It seems to me a lot more hassle than just plugging in some headphones. This is assuming the machine is only really used for games.

If the PC is also used for movies (where I do prefer speakers, though headphones are okay) then of course fan noise is incredibly annoying, so improving the cooling would make sense. Or, stick with headphones for gaming (really great for positional sound), and get something like GoogleTV/AppleTV/WDTV etc to stream the movies to your TV while leaving the PC in another room.

Personally I just use a netbook and my phone for browsing, and do everything else on my PS3 slim, which handles all my gaming and movies almost silently, and is hooked up to my HDTV. Considering adding my brother's old gaming PC into that setup, but I'm not sure I'd have much use for it, apart from the occasional nostalgic game of CSS. I like not having to switch around channels on my TV :p

Re:More sensible option (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849980)

Personally I just use a netbook and my phone for browsing, and do everything else on my PS3 slim, which handles all my gaming

Provided that the game you want to play is even available for PS3.

Re:More sensible option (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848760)

Or just crank up the volume on your stereo system. Who can hear case fans over realistic explosions?

Re:More sensible option (1)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849954)

Or just ignore it. It's background white noise and most people's brains are quite adept and filtering out background stimuli that aren't changing. I don't even notice my fans unless they stop!

Finally! (3, Funny)

eexaa (1252378) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848180)

No more liquid nitrogen i my room!

Or, an even easier idea: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848188)

Buy noise cancelling foam boards and/or better fans.

Not meaning to be funny either.

Hell, if your fans are that loud when you are playing a game, you NEED new fans. (especially if you are wearing a headset!)

Why do I need this again? (5, Insightful)

Shrike82 (1471633) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848252)

So the summary talks about annoying fan noise and how this card is the answer, but with the wireless keyboard and mouse that it suggests I could just put my PC at the other end of the room, wired to my TV or monitor, without an expensive and display-lag-inducing wireless graphics card. Don't get me wrong, the card probably has some benefits, but reducing the annoyance of GPU cooling fans is a bit of a stretch.

Re:Why do I need this again? (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848594)

This is the major difference between PC and console gaming. The PC game GUI is designed to be seen from a distance of less than 1m whereas console games are designed to have the player sat well past that distance away from the screen.

Try playing an RPG while sat on your sofa and see how easy reading the text is. The only are where this may not count is console ports, but even then the UI is sometimes badly scaled and unreadable. Further, consider that the average PC monitor has a much higher resolution compared to screen size (my 24" screen has been better-than-1080p before HDTV was available, yet the 37" TV in the living room is only 720p).

Saying that, though, I bet for the same price (or a little more) than you'd pay on decent air cooling for your gaming rig + this card, you could water cool the whole thing and have it make less noise than your mouse moving over the desk surface.

Re:Why do I need this again? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848666)

Saying that, though, I bet for the same price (or a little more) than you'd pay on decent air cooling for your gaming rig + this card, you could water cool the whole thing and have it make less noise than your mouse moving over the desk surface.

So long as you're taking this into consideration while building the machine, it's probably true. If it's an upgrade then the wireless video card might make more sense. Or, you know, a cooled, filtered, muffled enclosure.

Re:Why do I need this again? (1)

SirMasterboy (872152) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848992)

I play PC games in my living room on my TV from 14' away on the couch. Though my "TV" is a 1080p projector at 136" so I have no problem reading text in my PC games at 1080p resolution from 14" and they do look vastly better than 720p console games.

Re:Why do I need this again? (1)

Unkyjar (1148699) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849296)

The problem isn't design. The problem is you need a better TV, or the TV you have should be located closer to your couch.

Re:Why do I need this again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848658)

Great for a recording studio though. The noisy hot thing can be in a separate air conditioned room.

Re:Why do I need this again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34849638)

Depending on the construction materials used in your home, or how you have your place set up, this would be useful for creating a home theater station that is not right next to (or even in the same room as) the television. This could be quite useful if you wanted to create a home theater but didn't want all the hassle or intrusion of the devices and wires.

laptop graphics (0)

metalmaster (1005171) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848280)

a hassle free way to upgrade the graphics for your laptop finally

Re:laptop graphics (1)

metalmaster (1005171) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848350)

damn, i actually RTFA and was disappointed

Re:laptop graphics (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848496)

son, i am disappoint

Unlicensed spectrum, eh? (5, Interesting)

Aphex Junkie (633436) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848304)

What happens when EVERYONE gets one of these? A full speed 5ghz 802.11n link is already difficult to achieve in crowded/built up areas.

Re:Unlicensed spectrum, eh? (1)

BassMan449 (1356143) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848940)

I was thinking the exact same thing only in regards to just me. What if I want to run dual monitors? Are they going to interfere with each other? To me this just seems like a solution in search of a problem.

With slightoverclocking displays directly in brain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848320)

With slight overclocking an amplification no display is needed at all!

Strong enough radiowaves burn the image directly in the brain!

wrong solution (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848326)

do NOT bundle the transport (wireless) WITH the card. really dumb.

the card breaks. now you have to buy another to get your wireless back again.

otoh, if the vendors were smart this would be card-neutral and simply take hdmi or dvi and make that a wireless peer-to-peer link. THAT way the standard interface (dvi) simply has to be a dvi port and nothing else. ALL cards can do this.

bundling is good for companies. bad for us.

I would avoid 'solutions' like this that link too many things. like all in one stereos - bad for consumer since you can't upgrade anything short of a forklift upgrade. discretes is the way to go - and same for computers, too.

Re:wrong solution (1)

Gadget_Guy (627405) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849596)

the card breaks. now you have to buy another to get your wireless back again.

How often do video cards ever break? Especially modern ones that have sensors to detect heat (in case the fan breaks). The only time I have had a card that was broken was when some of the pins on the connector got bent, which obviously will not happen in this case.

otoh, if the vendors were smart this would be card-neutral and simply take hdmi or dvi and make that a wireless peer-to-peer link.

I am sure that the vendors would love to make an adaptor that can use used on their competitor's cards too. I can see why it might be possible that the wireless link would perform better if the cards were tailored to use that interface rather than converting to a wired standard and then converting back again.

Eventually there will end up being some sort of standard for these devices, but innovations tend to happen in a non-standard was long before consensus between companies can occur. Early adopters may pay a premium to buy some hardware that is eventually made obsolete, but that is exactly what early adopters do. Bless them!

Re:wrong solution (1)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849990)

How often do video cards ever break? Especially modern ones that have sensors to detect heat (in case the fan breaks).

Mine broke a couple of months ago. It was about 2-3 years old.

Compressed Compression (5, Informative)

jon42689 (1098973) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848352)

It claims to "intelligently" determine what parts of the frame are important to the eye.... No thanks, I'll prefer the compressed video. I'm not too interested in a compressed compressed video. from the FAQ on WHDI.org

How does the Video Modem Work? The WHDI video modem takes the uncompressed HD video stream and breaks it into elements of visual importance. The various elements are then mapped onto the wireless channel in a way that gives elements with more visual importance a greater share of the channel resources, i.e. they are transmitted in a more robust manner. Elements that have less visual importance are allocated fewer channel resources. The result of this unique video-modem approach is that any errors in the wireless channel are not noticed as they only affect the less visually important bits. Very high rates of video information can be transmitted because the human eye can tolerate the errors that fall on the less important bits. Traditional wireless technologies (such as WiFi) do not differentiate between the least important and most important information, and thus cannot deliver the bandwidth or robustness of WHDI

Re:Compressed Compression (1)

Pinky's Brain (1158667) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849786)

AFAICS it's robust, not lossy by default.

Yay, more Input Lag (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848360)

Input lags of over 50ms, here we go!

Re:Yay, more Input Lag (1, Offtopic)

miasmic (669645) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848734)

Totally correct. This is why I don't play any recent FPS or action games, I just ignore the lot, don't even keep up to date on new games coming out anymore.

Developers just don't seem to care about the way games 'feel' anymore, it's only about how flashy the graphics are.

No matter if moving feels like swimming in treacle and aiming is like it would be after six temazepams and a bottle of whisky.

Twitch skill is seen as a bad thing nowadays as it can make people who are rubbish at computer games feel like they are rubbish at computer games.

The feel when playing a game built in the Quake 2 engine like CS 1.6 is fantastic, like the mouse is directly connected to your crosshairs. This is the only reason why there are still CS 1.6 tournaments around today - no one has released a good game since that isn't crippled for serious online competition by the graphics engine.

How much fun would table tennis be if your arm worked like aiming does in modern FPS games? I don't think anyone would play it. And that's what this is about - good gameplay is very hard to get right, but flashy graphics are an easy win that will always fool the masses.

Re:Yay, more Input Lag (2)

SirMasterboy (872152) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848948)

50ms? When I ping my desktop from my laptop over WiFi the results says 1ms.

If you use a regular USB mouse, then the polling rate is 125hz or 8ms of input lag. The fastest 1000hz mice are 1ms then. Your video card is also set to render 3 frames ahead by default which can be between 0-50ms there (this can be set to 0 though). And finally, unless you are using a CRT, your LCD probably adds somewhere between 5-50ms of framebuffer input lag.

I really don't see how 1ms of wireless lag will be noticeable.

Re:Yay, more Input Lag (1)

Xtense (1075847) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849750)

Pinging is all fine and good, but try to transfer a, lets say, 1920x1080, 24bit color frame over WiFi, first with then without compression, then measure how long did that take. Now do 60 frames consecutively. If you can fit it in 1ms, without encryption and even with some form of compression, I'll be very, very impressed, then ask how long since you came from the future.

Re:Yay, more Input Lag (1)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 3 years ago | (#34850014)

Shouldn't that be output lag?

Oh, really? (1)

dragonhunter21 (1815102) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848402)

And hike across two rooms to reset when it crashes? No thank you.

In all seriousness, this is pretty cool. In some applications this could be tremendously helpful- Small spaces with little room for hardware and less for cords, for example. All the same, though, I won't be using it on my gaming rig- I rather enjoy my GTS 250.

Last piece (5, Insightful)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848438)

If display can be detached from computers, then forget about tablets, notebooks, or even smartphones. You have "the box" somewhere in your house and from any place you can have alternate input and output devices to work with it, you want a tablet? something to work in a desk? Using your tv set? All can have the same computer behind, and you could use the best interface for what you need to do.

If that becomes portable or wearable, same could go for mobile computing, and you could interact with the IO device you have with you, be smartglasses, something of the size of a phone or a tablet, or even some kind of sixth sense [ted.com] technology

Re:Last piece (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848690)

Yes, this is probably the best use for this technology today; you carry the display and wireless input device(s) and the computer sits in one place. If the display is big enough to sit on a desk but small and light enough to be carried around then you win, otherwise, there is no point.

I agree that reality overlay is the desired goal; I don't see any reason you couldn't use this technology for a HMD, although for now you're going to need an external pack on a lead.

Re:Last piece (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34850004)

that is a great idea if you only use tablets, notebooks and smartphones in your house.

Wrong market - Wrong target audience (5, Insightful)

Gorkamecha (948294) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848482)

This baby is not for gamers or engineers. It's for marketing and sales. Remote screens at trade shows and in a show rooms pumping out messages while all the ugly boxes are tucked away in a room elsewhere. No un-slightly wires to trip over or to run. Funky little kiosks that float in the open air. That kind of thing.

Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience (2)

robot256 (1635039) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848560)

Then the question becomes how many can operate in the same vicinity without interfering with one another. Seems like that would be a somewhat bigger problem, though if all you're showing is slideshows then a few dropped frames won't matter.

Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848688)

There are already fanless graphics cards [newegg.com] proper, so if you're simply displaying slides you're not going to need a 460GTX so.. yeah, what's the point of this product again? It's faster than the fanless cards I know of, but a gamer wouldn't touch it anyhow (added latencies anyone).

Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience (2)

afidel (530433) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848698)

One or two, they basically use the entire 5Ghz USM band to achieve 1080p. Now with whitespace radios now legal in the US the next generation standard might get more interesting since in theory all they have to do is find enough slices of unused bandwidth for their throughput requirements.

Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience (1)

Tr3vin (1220548) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848634)

They would be better off with a wired solution. Interference is going to big a big problem for anyone who might want to use this. Some sort of ethernet interface would probably be much better for keeping displays and computers far away from each other.

Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience (1)

TheMaskedMan (207931) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848776)

If only there was some kind of "remote desktop" software we would be all set...

Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience (1)

Tr3vin (1220548) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848938)

I'm talking about a monitor itself acting as a device on the network, so that it could operate without being directly connected to a box. Remote desktop still requires a box with some sort of OS and client to connect to a remote box. I would like VNC or simliar capabilities built into a monitor.

Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience (2)

badran (973386) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849332)

The kiosk segment is covered by low cost ultra-portables. All you need is a power cord and you can load the videos via USB or Wifi. And they would not be using your whole available spectrum for video.

Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34849394)

thought remote screens were covered by small form factor PCs with wifi attached to the back of the remote 'advertising' or 'information' type screens - the Acer Revo for example.

Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience (1)

rm999 (775449) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849434)

That's taking a sledge hammer to a nail. The electronics to receive, process, and decode wireless video would be far more powerful and expensive than the 10 Mhz processor required to display text. The processor in the ipad costs ~20 dollars to put it into perspective.

Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience (1)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849756)

I would not say it is just for marketing and sales. This would be awesome to put into my media box so that I don't need a PC next to my projector. Now I can put my media box in the other room next to my main computer and get a small monitor to use as a "base station" just in case. I have not read much about the card, but I am 95% sure that there will be at least 1 wired port. I was actually looking at wireless monitor stuff previously, and that stuff is expensive. I am hoping this will help drive those prices down

Broadcast (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848624)

Does it support multiple displays? That'd be a nice feature.

Re:Broadcast (1)

Khashishi (775369) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849362)

Then you would have... TV!

Sharing is Caring! (1)

jimmerz28 (1928616) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848732)

So now we just need one person to have a powerful enough video card to stream to the entire neighborhood so we can watch DVDs without buying them!

Maybe things have changed... (2)

Endophage (1685212) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848866)

...but I don't know any real gamers (at least on PC) that use wireless keyboards or mice. They're all good and well for playing facebook games but I wouldn't want to be using wireless peripherals in an online game of Call of Duty or anything that requires split second reactions.

Re:Maybe things have changed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34849210)

Apparently "real gamers" have to play online FPS, huh? Interesting how that excludes people raiding in WoW for top tier bosses, or anyone who plays anything single player or LAN, yet it would include console gamers...

sounds nice (1)

db10 (740174) | more than 3 years ago | (#34848890)

does it slice and dice?

Useless For Gaming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34848932)

They're shooting themselves in the foot if gamers are their target market. We're just now developing wireless mice with latency that's acceptable for gamers, and wireless internet is still a no no. Considering how little data a mouse actually needs to send compared to video output at 120hz/120fps... What's the response time? Shooting at a target that was actually drawn 20ms ago and has since moved is not acceptable in the gaming world.

Latency? (1)

fleeped (1945926) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849010)

They transmit 1080p at 60Hz, ok. But what's the latency? I don't think it's instant. Combined with LCD latency, it might be bad. So, no thanks. As said above, not intended for gamers/engineers, and might not even for watching fast action movies.

Waht about my GF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34849094)

Will it stop her whining too?

Fan noise?!? (1)

KnightMareInc (978421) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849148)

Is fan noise still a problem these days? Granted I haven't been keeping up with the latest tech but the 260 GTX I have makes very little noise. This product sounds like a solution for something that was a problem 6-7 years ago.

Big picture (1)

brillow (917507) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849234)

I think the possibilities of cutting the last wire go far beyond the inconvenience of loud fans.

Right solution to the wrong problem... (1)

DigiTechGuy (1747636) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849254)

I generally avoid wireless devices like the plague. I don't like dealing with interference, batteries, signal, random flaking out, latency, etc. For a little home theater machine maybe this would be useful... But we already have ways to make those silent or near silent.

Monster (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34849370)

Make sure you buy the Monster brand wireless, soon to come to a store near you with extra gold plating on your wireless signal to ensure the absolute fastest movement of your wireless signal across your living room!

Laggy much? (1)

savvysteve (1915898) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849384)

So while you sit there and get lag from your wireless mouse, keyboard, & monitor the guy with the cheap stuff will just keep fragging away while you lag.

Long range PCIe (1)

Loconut1389 (455297) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849478)

I'd much rather have a hard-line capable of carrying 16x PCIe, then just have a little box with cooling for the video card- plus that would free up the slot right under my video card....

Financial Industry and Exchanges will love this. (1)

Lashat (1041424) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849582)

This technology is not really for your average consumer. Tech geeks and the curious will check it out, but the real market is for the Financial Sector especially those doing business on the Exchanges around the world. Multiple displays broadcast from the command center directly to the floor will give some traders an edge.

Yay! (1)

scubamage (727538) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849962)

Just I wanted, more exposure to radiation! YAYAYAYAY!

The only use of this thing (1)

Palpatine_li (1547707) | more than 3 years ago | (#34849972)

Is for LCD glasses or similar stuff, so you can walk around the room with your desktop level power and more convenience than netbook/ipad.
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