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The Matrix Re-Reloaded

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the you-know-you'd-watch-it dept.

The Matrix 640

derGoldstein writes "According to Keanu Reeves: ' Matrix 4 and 5 are coming.' At an event that took place at the London International School of Performing Arts, 'Reeves revealed that he met with the Wachowskis around Christmas. They told him that they completed script treatments for two more Matrix installments. They are planning to make the films in 3D and have already met with James Cameron to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of the technology. Reeves added that he's excited to return as Neo and promised that the treatments will truly revolutionize the action genre like the first Matrix film did.'"

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No. (4, Insightful)

chemicaldave (1776600) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980328)

Just...no. Stop it right now. Stop before something bad happens.

I agree, how could they be at 4 anyway? (5, Funny)

Wrexs0ul (515885) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980564)

I thought they only ever made 1 movie, and it was good.

Wouldn't this technically qualify as a second? I sure hope they don't dirty the concept with some crazy machine war, or an oddly pointless death of Neo's love interest.

-Matt

Re:I agree, how could they be at 4 anyway? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980600)

Why would they do that? It would just be silly. Next you'll suggest that the new films should mostly be about some little old Chinese guy running around with a bunch of keys.

Re:I agree, how could they be at 4 anyway? (5, Funny)

Moryath (553296) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980708)

Dude, I thought at the end of 2 that they were going to go with a "you idiot, they're still in the matrix, the solution to people not being able to handle it was just to fool them into thinking they had escaped so they'd stop fighting it" approach.

After all, THAT would at least have explained better why Neo was able to sense the damn squidbots and blow them up.

But no, then they take the 3rd movie and bash you in the head with "Neo=Jesus" crap and a goddamn Dragonball Z-ish fistfight. The only thing missing was Neo's hair turning bright fucking yellow and standing on end when he Goku'ed out.

Re:I agree, how could they be at 4 anyway? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980762)

don't worry his hair will turn bright fucking yellow... AND it will be in motherfucking 3D!

Highlander (4, Interesting)

dazedNconfuzed (154242) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980816)

Recall that _Highlander_3_ opened with our hero sitting in an ornate chair, looking straight at the audience, and flatly stating (in so many words) that the previous movie* didn't exist and they were starting this sequel about 10 minutes before the original film ended.

(* - aka _Highlander_2:_The_Sickening_)

Re:No. (1)

memnock (466995) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980628)

totally on board with that sentiment. plus 3D? come-the-fuck-on. like chemicaldave said, this should just stop at "No".

Re:No. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980810)

Too late, they've allready released reloaded.

Oh... (5, Insightful)

Anrego (830717) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980334)

For the love of the great fire cactus.

Sad thing is, even though most people equate the two existing sequels to the experience of having a lightly chilled olive fork rammed into your eye this movie will get its audience. The first matrix was just that damn good that they can keep cranking out shitty sequels and people will watch them, knowing full well that they are going to suck.

Sequels not that bad (5, Interesting)

TheLink (130905) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980542)

I don't see the sequels as bad or stupid.

The idea that the machines want humans as batteries is just what Morpheus claimed. It may be true in the inner Matrix world, but may not be for the outer matrix worlds. Remember even in the first movie the question was asked: "What if when you woke up, you didn't know the difference between the dream world, and the real world?"

So my interpretation is the Oracle is trying to upgrade herself- she believes humans have something the machines don't. Think of the whole thing as a "hybrid/breeding program".

Neo is likely at least partly a machine[1] (and a special one). The Oracle gives Neo cookies to add features/upgrades at critical moments.

After each world iteration (you can see the previous Neos try and fail etc), Neo has a chance of becoming more human but crucially retaining the abilities of machines. Smith goes about merging with all the humans and other machines, including the Oracle (who still _somehow_ retains enough of herself to prompt Neo), and Neo merges with Smith.

If things go fine, the Oracle gets her upgrade... If things go wrong, as the Architect said, the Oracle is playing a dangerous game.

As you can see, there's still plenty of room for reasonable interpretations.

Of course the upcoming sequels could prove that it really was stupid ;).

[1] FWIW, in the first movie the humans themselves mention "he's a machine" they weren't serious of course, but the film writers might be dropping hints.

Re:Sequels not that bad (5, Insightful)

Aerynvala (1109505) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980652)

I don't need my stories handed to me on a silver platter, but the level of alternate meaning you're suggesting would require far more obvious clues to be believable for me.

Re:Sequels not that bad (5, Insightful)

DigitalSorceress (156609) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980692)

Now, if we could just get them to hire you to write it, I'd be more optimistic. Whoever wrote 2&3 should under no account be allowed to write 4 & 5.

Just my $0.02 worth

Re:Sequels not that bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980742)

I liked the sequels for what they were also, action flicks. The Matrix Reloaded, in particular, had some truly awesome fight sequences. I never did find any of the story elements in The Matrix to be very interesting or compelling, so a shift towards more action scenes was welcome.

Re:Sequels not that bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980750)

2 and 3 were really one movie. People seem to miss the 'to be continued' at the end of 2.

If they lost about 2.5 hours of that movie(s) it would have been bad ass. Their egos were too big for it so it is long and boring. It could have had a bunch of energy.

They really should have just put all of that extra fluff in the dvd extras special longer version.

15 mins of people dancing right in the middle of it? Really? 20 mins of them standing on top of a trailer? Really? I remember sitting in the theater people were looking at each other like 'am I the only one who thinks this is boring crap?'

They really needed an editor who was willing to stand down the directors and make it a good movie.

If I watch them as 1 movie and ff thru the boring bits the last '2' are semi ok.

That movie died on the editing room floor. It was boring because they made 2 movies out of one.

Like your theory. I like the computer in a computer one better and they are all human. But that one is cool too.

Re:Sequels not that bad (4, Interesting)

Moryath (553296) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980778)

At the end of Matrix 2, I honestly thought we were seeing "hey dummy, they're still in the matrix, they're just fooled into thinking they are out so that they'll stop resisting."

After all, Neo's "I can alter the Matrix" powers make sense in the matrix, but there's no rational basis whatsoever for him being fucking telekinetic in the real world. Therefore, as I saw it, the easiest explanation was just that he was starting to get a sense of the second matrix layer and play with it when he made all the squidbots explode.

After all, that makes more logical sense (at least according to the previously relatively internally-consistent rules as established in the movies till that point) than "Neo is fucking jesus, the chosen one gets to have powers in the real world too, he's going to blow up in a cross shape, fuck you", which is what they did with the third movie.

Re:Sequels not that bad (3, Interesting)

geekpowa (916089) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980812)

Great comment. Everyone loves to hate 2 & 3. Thought I was alone in liking the entire series.

2 was rich, complex and nuanced. After 1 my thinking was, Neo is now a bad-ass, the Matrix is now understood and mastered, what can possibly happen in 2? Alot happens; the world turns out to be substantially more complex and nuanced, with many complex and powerful antagonists and friendlies and uncertainty as to whom are who. The matrix world in 2 I found to be far more frightening and intimidating place than in the first film.

3 is a weak film, mainly because it takes 45mins of story and plot and tries to stretch it into a feature length film. Definitely a sin which weakens the film, but the plot is still sound and interesting.

Re:Sequels not that bad (4, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980826)

Neo is likely at least partly a machine

That's all fine, but am I the only one who had hoped the next movie by the Wachowski brothers would be a documentary about their personal lives?

Re:Oh... (4, Interesting)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980544)

The thing is that as action movies in their own right, the 2nd and 3rd movies were fine. They just didn't have the epic mindblowing nature of the first. After a few years of not watching them and the whole Matrix hype dying down, I don't mind them so much. I'd definitely give the Matrix 4 and 5 a chance, maybe the Wachowskis have learned something from 2 and 3. Then again, maybe they're just the next George Lucas.

Re:Oh... (2)

chichilalescu (1647065) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980754)

at least they're not simply updating the special effects to the movies they already have...

anyway, I agree with your view. my view is that movies 2 and 3 have absolutely nothing in common except the characters to movie 1: movie 1 is about a guy finding out he's living in a dream world, and him developping the power to break the rules of the dream; movies 2 and 3 are just superhero movies.

As long as they find it important to say they'd be in 3D, I'm pretty certain that these new movies will be new superhero movies. cool and funny just like 2 and 3, but not more.

ha ? (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980668)

im a VERY picky, VERY hard to please person, yet, even i didnt find the 2 sequels 'a fork rammed into my eye'.

it feels more like you are one of those people who dislike something when/if it becomes popular. substance over form, my friend, substance over form. see through the fog.

Re:ha ? (1)

Anrego (830717) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980782)

Uh.. except that the first matrix was very popular.. which is why they are talking about a 4'th and 5'th sequel...

And the 2'nd and 3'rd sequels were widely panned.. rotten tomatoes has the third one 40%.

Infact I actually don't get how your post relates at all... please explain further.

Re:Oh... (2)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980800)

Maybe people said the same about the 1st trilogy of Star Wars and the shitty 2 first sequels before the 3rd came out. Maybe, with a bit of hope, they fix the damage done in the sequels.

In the other hand, if they are considering 3D for it, or finally do a movie where 3D makes sense, or they just plan to leech a bit more money of the series knowing how much people paid to see quality films like Transformers 2.

Sad Keanu Is Nostalgic (0, Troll)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980336)

In this same pseudo-anonymous letter we learn that Mr. Reeves is 'enthusiastic' about developing a Bill & Ted 3. And we're supposed to believe this? Neither the Matrix IV nor Bill & Ted III show up at hsx.com (which is usually really good about this stuff if it's actually in development). The only piece of news from this that is credible is the 47 Ronin film mentioned [imdb.com] .

Mr. Reeves is a sequel whore committed to leaching money off of success or even moderate success. Fortunately, producers and directors (or maybe his agent) around him seem to be pushing him to new things like A Scanner Darkly or the aforementioned 47 Ronin -- even though these are already books or old films. The Matrix and Bill & Ted death throes will probably deflate just like Constantine 2 [hsx.com] ... or we can at least hope.

Re:Sad Keanu Is Nostalgic (5, Informative)

Ubergrendle (531719) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980456)

Mr Reeves is not a sequel whore; far from it. While he did Matrix 2 and 3 (as it was part of an intended trilogy). I actually can't think of a sequel he's done *except* for the Matrix series. He's notably turned down Constantine 2, Speed 2, a 3rd Bill & Ted movie... he's actually more brave with movie selections than many A list movie stars.

Re:Sad Keanu Is Nostalgic (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980498)

He's notably turned down Constantine 2, Speed 2, a 3rd Bill & Ted movie...

Did you read the article?

Spoke briefly about the possibility of Bill and Ted part 3 - ( Audience started laughing) but he assured us he's committed to the project.

Re:Sad Keanu Is Nostalgic (5, Interesting)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980484)

Mr. Reeves is a sequel whore committed to leaching money off of success or even moderate success

If he was really doing anything to "leech money", why would he give millions to charity, take millions in pay cuts to allow other big budget actors to be cast when he thinks they'd really suit a certain part? What about when he gave £50,000,000 to the cast and crew of the Matrix movies [hellomagazine.com] . Give the guy some credit where it's due. If he's making a movie, it's most likely for other reasons than money.

Read up on the actual story of Sad Keanu [knowyourmeme.com] and maybe you'll think differently of him. I only read all that last week. I've never thought of him as a douche, but now I think he's one of the nicest guys in show business, perhaps even the nicest guy.

Re:Sad Keanu Is Nostalgic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980748)

You do understand how publicity works right?

Make a few token gestures to try to distract from the greed.

Just like how Bill Gates gives away a few bits of his fortune.
Just like how Apple pays the Chinese workers a few dollars more.

Dont forget that Mr Reeves can also make charitable donations instead of paying some of his taxes.

Re:Sad Keanu Is Nostalgic (1)

Fibe-Piper (1879824) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980776)

I like Keanu (in contrast to most posters so far) and love the 1st Matrix (like 99% of the posts on here).

But he offered up some of his own cash to help finance the series, which has made him very wealthy in the way of his returns on investment. To my thinking this makes him a producer which is as noble a profession as anything, but it has never qualified anyone for sainthood

Re:Sad Keanu Is Nostalgic (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980540)

It's not listed on hsx because as TFA article states, it's not in development, it was just a conversation Reeves had with the Wachowski brothers. Also, nobody pushes Reeves into anything. You can say what you want about his acting, but he has a long history of turning down big money maker parts to do the movies he wants to do. Most notably, he refused Speed 2 and Constantine 2, much to the chagrin of the producers and his agents. Otherwise your post was spot on.

Re:Sad Keanu Is Nostalgic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980598)

You can say what you want about his acting

No, I can't, at least not without risking a huge lawsuit. I can see no possible way for someone to be an worse actor than Reeves, except Hayden Christensen of course.

Re:Sad Keanu Is Nostalgic (5, Informative)

S.O.B. (136083) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980772)

Mr. Reeves is a sequel whore committed to leaching money off of success or even moderate success

Keanu Reeves has been in 49 movies in his career so far and the only sequels I see that he's been in are Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey and the Matrix sequels. I think that hardly qualifies him as a "sequel whore".

If you want to talk sequel whores there are others that are worse such as Eddie Murphy (Beverly Hills Cop 1-3. Dr. Doolitle 1&2, The Nutty Professor 1&2, 48 Hours 1&2), Mel Gibson (Lethal Weapon 1-4, Mad Max 1-3), Sylvester Stallone (Rocky 1-6, Rambo 1-4) the main cast of Harry Potter and most of the cast of the Police Academy movies (#8 is in development, even Guttenberg stopped after 4).

Awesome! (5, Funny)

Superchip (1874486) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980348)

I've been waiting for two more Matrix movies ever since the last one came out in 1999!

Re:Awesome! (5, Funny)

Tr3vin (1220548) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980572)

Same here. I've also been waiting on that last season of Lost. I'm sure it will have a thrilling conclusion.

Re:Awesome! (2)

Baron_Yam (643147) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980596)

IF the 'reality' of the last two movies turns out to be yet another layer of the onion, cool. If not, not so cool.

The underlying truth of the man-machine war could remain, but the other stupid stuff could be written off as simply being the way a particular simulation was set up.

Hell - have Neo find out there are a hundred layers of simulation, and you could turn it into a Saturday morning cartoon series where every week he escapes another level.

Re:Awesome! (2)

damien_kane (519267) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980758)

That's the way I saw them anyways.
Smith never actually broke out of the machine, he just broke out of his chroot jail, into a larger sandbox (which still probably isn't an even miniscule fraction of the whole of the actual machine).

It's all just tests, with "The Matrix" equating to a MMO version of "Global Thermonuclear War", and the oracle essentially a giant, infinitely more complex WOPR.

Would you like to play a game?

I thought the humans won already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980352)

the horror...

ObXKCD (2, Interesting)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980362)

XKCD [xkcd.com] says it all. I'm in the rare minority that didn't see the second two movies, but I bet a lot more won't see the next two movies.

Re:ObXKCD (5, Interesting)

tgd (2822) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980710)

IMO, the second two were better than the first.

I don't know what people were expecting and didn't get from them. I find it as puzzling as the people who complained about Transformers 2. What did they expect from that? It was two hours of robots kicking the crap out of each other.

Matrix 2 and 3 were what you expected -- special effects, Keanu saying "woah" and pop-philosophy.

I think the problem is people read way too much into the first one.

4 and 5? (-1, Redundant)

d3matt (864260) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980364)

Is this like Star Wars where they're starting with episode 4? Because it's a shame they haven't made more than 1 Matrix movie yet...

Re:4 and 5? (1)

Fujisawa Sensei (207127) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980726)

Is this like Star Wars where they're starting with episode 4? Because it's a shame they haven't made more than 1 Matrix movie yet...

What he said...

how can they make matrix 4 and 5 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980366)

they never made matrix 2 and 3

yawn (1)

alen (225700) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980368)

the first one was cool for the 1990's when computers were still kind of new and the tech was pretty cool. come middle of the next decade they will really have to have a good story to keep people interested. special effects won't do it anymore

Re:yawn (5, Interesting)

Seumas (6865) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980420)

Computers were not exactly "new" a decade ago. Even as far as movie CG, it was about 25 years old. It was the use of new camera and filming technology and techniques that really set the first Matrix apart - aside from a really great story. What Matrix accomplished was doing something amazing in a post-Jurassic-Park time period, when special effects had finally reached the point where it could realistically accomplish anything and we should have otherwise not have been impressed by anything that we saw, anywhere.

I could go for more Keanu. I could go for more cyber-punk type of stuff. I just don't see the need to make it more Matrix stuff. Do two or three whole new movies independent of the franchise. They don't need to have anything to do with it. Sometimes it's good enough to just have one singular great self-contained story. Not sequels. Not game DLC. Not prequels. Just more good stories.

Also, I really just wanted to reply to this whole story with a single post that just said "Whoa....".

Re:yawn (1)

Bieeanda (961632) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980720)

Hahaha. This post works better if you ratchet it back to at least 1975, and gets funnier with age too.

Re:yawn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980792)

special effects won't do it anymore

*cough* Avatar *cough*

I welcome the chance to fix what screwed up (1)

CodePwned (1630439) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980370)

The end of the last matrix was so bad most people pretend it doesn't exist (see Jar Jar). I think they realize everyone was left with a bad taste in their mouth as if they were expecting chocolate and got Mr Hanky.

I got the script for 4 & 5 (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980388)

Matrix 4: Scene: City streets

Neo and gang fight and shoot up the place.

Hot chick with pushup bra kisses Neo, Trinity looks disgusted.

More fighting and shooting.

Matrix 5: Scene: City streets

Neo and gang fight and shoot up the place.

Hot chick with pushup bra kisses Neo, Trinity looks disgusted.

More fighting and shooting.

Re:I got the script for 4 & 5 (5, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980664)

Matrix 4: Scene: Suburbia
Neo and gang mow lawns and clean pools.
Hot chick with pushup bra babysits for Neo, Trinity looks disgusted.
More mall shopping.

Matrix 5: Scene: Rural Farm
Neo and gang plant corn.
Hot chick with pushup bra milks a cow, Trinity looks disgusted.
More square dancing.

Didn't he die at the end of 3? (2)

Burnhard (1031106) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980392)

... or perhaps I was watching a different movie....

Re:Didn't he die at the end of 3? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980608)

... or perhaps I was watching a different movie....

He became part of the Matrix. Prepare to see a Neo "program" or some other construct for Canoe Reeves to get a roll and his $20 million.

Re:Didn't he die at the end of 3? (3, Interesting)

AndrewNeo (979708) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980620)

Yes, but the machines never gave his body back to the humans. This was somewhat explored in the short-lived MMO, I get the feeling if there are more movies they will build on this fact.

Folks? Get the clue, it's over. (4, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980408)

Matrix 1 was a revolution. Bullet time was new and exciting, the whole "green rayban tint" throughout the movie gave it an eerie air (seriously, put on Raybans in the night, presto Matrix feeling), mix in hacker and kung-fu elements and presto instant geek movie.

The second was a weak copy (seriously, the alleged original script was better). The third was ... let's not talk about it, ok?

If they want to be revolutionary again, it has to offer more than "IN THREE DEE". This feature got very stale very fast, being too overused already after not even two years of existence.

Also, how do you want to continue this story? The rise of the machines again? Or are we going to get a moral story about how humans and machines should coexist, even more of a snorer than the third?

Re:Folks? Get the clue, it's over. (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980448)

The only possible way I can see for them to release more Matrix movies is to do prequels. I am not saying that is a good idea -- it was pretty bad for Star Wars -- but that is the only thing that will make sense.

Not that making more Matrix movies can really make sense in any universe...

Re:Folks? Get the clue, it's over. (1)

Anrego (830717) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980524)

Also, how do you want to continue this story?

I just hope they don't make a prequel.. I really hate those. Or cover some time period that was glanced over (I hate those too). Stories have a start and end. Going back and telling some part of it in the middle or before the origional start always feels weird, and in the worst cases can wreck the original story.

The fact that Neo kinda like.. dies.. at the end of the third one kind of limits the possibilities of the character. They can always do the lame "he wasn't really dead" thing.. but people hate that.

Re:Folks? Get the clue, it's over. (1)

ifrag (984323) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980604)

The second was a weak copy (seriously, the alleged original script was better). The third was ... let's not talk about it, ok?

I think I would have actually been totally OK with the second movie if the third had actually gone anywhere meaningful with the story. The wild speculation after the end of the 2nd movie of layered virtual worlds as seen in "The Thirteenth Floor" had me somewhat hopeful. Still felt like the series could go somewhere exciting before the 3rd movie sunk it completely.

Re:Folks? Get the clue, it's over. (1)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980818)

+1 on that.

#2 still holds up pretty well as an action movie. The whole problem is that the story seems like it's going somewhere cool and then... doesn't in #3.

Re:Folks? Get the clue, it's over. (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980650)

This feature got very stale very fast, being too overused already after not even two years of existence.

Maybe not in its current incarnation, but 3D for movies been around for decades [wikipedia.org] . I've seen Vincent Price films from the 50s that were in 3D. It has always been a gimmick, and it has always faded back into the "don't care" category. I will never pay to see another 3D film again -- the eye strain isn't worth it.

And, I tend to agree about Matrix 4 and 5 ... what's left to cover? They were inside of another Matrix and haven't really gotten anywhere yet? Or they're all back at the rave and someone slips Neo a roofie?

Re:Folks? Get the clue, it's over. (3, Interesting)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980666)

You know why studios love 3D? Because it is impossible to pirate while it is in the theatre. It gives them a larger window of exclusivity. It is an incidental form of DRM.

Re:Folks? Get the clue, it's over. (3, Informative)

k_187 (61692) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980794)

And that makes no sense as none of the new 3D movies have been released exclusively in 3D. (Not every theater has all that new fangled technology, but I'm more than willing to admit that I may be wrong.)

Re:Folks? Get the clue, it's over. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980844)

Also, how do you want to continue this story?

It takes place in Russia, because as you can see, Mr. Anderson, in Soviet Russia, the Matrix Sequels have you!

They didn't kill the idea badly enough with #3? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980422)

Auuugh - if they want to "revolutionize" action movies again they'd better start with an idea as new and creative as the original Matrix movie. Flogging a horse they've already shot doesn't sound at all promising.

The second movie wasted way too much time in Zion but definitely had it's interesting bits, particularly the implications of the Architect's revelations and "impossible" events in the "real" world at the end, but they utterly scrapped all the interesting possibilities for nonsensical weirdness and pseudoreligion in the third (which had very little to redeem it that I can recall). If 4 and 5 are 3 all over again or worse...

No need for sequels (1)

partyguerrilla (1597357) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980454)

The Matrix (1999) Told the story they wanted to tell. Sure we got a couple of videogames and animations out of it, but the main story is done. The savior is ready, the vitual world is well on its way to salvation. Adding up to this would only involve an invincible character, which is kind of hard to relate to. I say the Wachowski broth^H^H^H^H^H^Hs stick to making box office bombs, and stay away from the only thing they ever managed to get right at least until studios stop giving them money.

Shouldn't they make 2&3 before 4&5? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980470)

The Matrix was such a great movie; it's been a TRAGEDY we haven't gotten any sequels.

It needs to be said... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980552)

WHOA!!!!! DUDE!

Will it ever happen? (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980576)

AICN is a rumour site. It gets a lot of news pretty early but it's not about accuracy.

It may be completely made up. If it's not, all we have is a script. If they do decide they want to make this film, Keanu needs to be available. Even then, thousands of things could happen to prevent the film from being made.

It could happen but don't hold your breath over a rumour of an initial concept for a movie.

no way I am wating to stop making bad baad baaaad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980584)

Movies, what the guy can not get anything else (oh I forgot they making money)

Yes, we al read XKCD... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980622)

But I'm sure the joke is still funny the 17th time.

Matrix 4: Morpheus ate too many donuts (0)

phonewebcam (446772) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980626)

The scene shifts to a totally white endless floor without walls. Standing there is an overweight Morpheus in his trademark nosepinch sunglasses. On a table in front of him is a plate with some crumbs on it, next to a large bowl with something dark in it.

Neo arrives.

Neo: "Woah! Dude, how they gonna give me my eyes back in the real world?"
Morpheus: "You must think beyond what you believe, Neo"
Neo: "Oh man, here we go again. Shame you couldn't think beyond passing every burger joint you walked into for the last 10 years".
Morpheus: "It is my destiny"
Neo: "Look man, didn't Predators tell you anything? Some things should absolutely be left alone"
Morpheus: "I'd like to eat that chocolate gateaux now but I have a problem".
Neo: "Yeah? Like, whats that man?"
Morpheus: "There is no spoon".

New and exciting uses of technology #327 (1)

lxs (131946) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980632)

Flogging a dead horse in 3D bullet time.

Whoa

Re:New and exciting uses of technology #327 (2)

Spad (470073) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980728)

A fully CGI horse with twitching so realistic you'd swear it was a live-action horse.

Did keanu also tell (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980654)

how many facial mimics and expressions will he be doing in new episodes ? 4 ? 5 ?

in any case role of neo suits him well. however he should add 1 or 2 facial mimics to the existing ones for this movie.

well, matrix 4, 5, still better than probable saw XVIII - The reckoning ...

Which religion next? (2)

tsman (1980532) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980672)

With Matrix 1 being purely Buddhist, part 2 going Confucian, and part 3 painfully going Christian, which religion of the thousands remaining will they choose to draw parallels/exploit?

Matrix Online and Morpheus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980680)

Just speculation here.

The MMO The Matrix Online was supposed to be "the official continuation of the storyline of the Matrix series of films". My question is how this will fit in with the new films. Do the films take place after the events of The Matrix Online, before it, at the same time, are they a retelling of the game story, or is the game story going to be thrown out completely? If they will be considered one big questions is where is Morpheus considering he died during The Matrix Online.

Expensive script? (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980716)

Also in the article they say

- Keanu spoke about the need to encourage writers to continue to focus on working on new ideas and that a good script was worth its weight in gold. For example he said the Wachowski's had just sold the most expensive script in history to Warner Brothers. a modern futuristic take on the legend of "Robin Hood". Says he understands WB paid $5 million for the rights and that from what the wachowski's have told him, it will be an action movie that would have the same impact visually and technically that Terminator 2 had. Confirmed that Will Smith has agreed ti headline the picture.

Would be that how the Wachowsky brothers would write the Wikileaks movie?

Admit it. (2, Interesting)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980718)

a lot of you are disliking the sequels, and bashing them, because at that point the movie had had become popular in mainstream and everyone was talking about it.

they WERE good movies. compare those two to the other movies from the last 80 years of moviemaking, and they will come up better than a lot of the movies you would vouch for, because they havent been so popular.

this is one vice of geek crowd ... start bashing something when it becomes popular ..

nothing changed in between the franchise being popular, and you starting bashing it. its promise was the same, its storyline was the same, it even seeded the chain of events properly in the first one quite straightly that one could easily guess what would have to happen based on that chain of events. and they did.

holy crap. give those people a break. had there been less baseless bashing, there would have been more quality content.

Write number 3 first (1)

gig (78408) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980740)

The first movie is awesome, and the second movie is awesome, but the third? Fix it.

Spoiler alert (1)

drmitch (1065012) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980746)

Didn't Neo die at the end? So am I right in thinking these will take place some time after 1 and before 2&3?

Lets see where this is going... (2)

Goboxer (1821502) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980798)

People are too quick to stop stuff that is already in motion. But I say if it isn't your money....let's see where this is going. There is only a small chance that it might break the world, and a lot bigger chance that it should be comedic gold.
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