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Volume 4A of Knuth's TAOCP Finally In Print

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the lookit-all-them-words dept.

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jantangring writes "It's been 28 years since Volume 3 of Donald Knuth's The Art of Computer Programming was published. The book series is a classic work of computer science in spite of the fact that still more than half of the seven volume series is still to be finalized. In 1992 Donald Knuth retired to medieval monkness in order to finish his work. After many long years in draft, volume 4A now in print and you can get it in a boxed set if you don't mind admitting that you don't already own the first three volumes. They won't be checking if you read it."

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All I have to say is ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980688)

Hoorah!

Wow (2)

forgot_my_nick (1138413) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980780)

Am I right my assumption that there may be as many as 8 volumes of Volume 4?

Re:Wow --- volume 4BXz? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980822)

Right now, tex (written by Knuth) is at version number 3.141592.
Following the same pattern, we may get a boxed library of programming books from Knuth without ever reaching volume 5.

Re:Wow --- volume 4BXz? (4, Informative)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981414)

I had to check to see if you were kidding! And actually:

ali@katamari:~$ tex --version
TeX 3.1415926 (TeX Live 2009/Debian)

Re:Wow (1)

rrhal (88665) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982808)

Am I right my assumption that there may be as many as 8 volumes of Volume 4?

Given the subject matter it will be more like 4! / 3

Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (4, Funny)

kriston (7886) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980714)

Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three?

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980784)

I have read his copy of volume three. The sheer walls of his retreat were quite a challenge but the rest of it was easy.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#34983788)

So this is why it took so long for him to complete Vol 4a. All these people breaking into his house and reading his books, probably eating his food, using his washroom, probably made him a little paranoid, and certainly would distract him from being able to focus on writing.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980848)

I haven't. Too busy playing video games, programming VHDL or verilog, and working 70+ hour weeks. So is it worth the $200 pricetag? (Volumes 1-2 Boxset plus Volume 4, fasciles 1-5)

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980962)

Working 70+ hour weeks, whats that in Mythical Man-Months?

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (1)

MadKeithV (102058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981092)

Approximately -42.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981308)

42.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (2)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981600)

I haven't. Too busy playing video games, programming VHDL or verilog, and working 70+ hour weeks. So is it worth the $200 pricetag? (Volumes 1-3 Boxset plus Volume 4, fasciles 1-5)

No. You can download Volumes 1-3 off the net for free.
70 hour weeks suck but hopefully only temporary.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (2)

Tolkien (664315) | more than 3 years ago | (#34983644)

No. You can download Volumes 1-3 off the net for free.

Maybe, but this isn't the MPAA or RIAA you're dealing with. This man is a genius and an extraordinary teacher by all accounts. I have no doubt that many of the texts you've read about algorithms who weren't authored by him directly were still influenced by his works. By not paying for the books you're showing no gratitude for his life long works which have and will unquestionably benefit programmers including yourself (and by extension, society) for years, possibly even decades or centuries to come.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (2)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#34983720)

He should give his books away for free and make money by selling tshirts.

But still... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34984110)

The man is a genius, the books are a work of art and all that.

But they are rediculously expensive, always have been. You'd think there would be a paperback version by now.

I'm curious and would like to read the books, but can't (read: won't) buy them for these prices.

Besides, I'd rather wait for the directors cut with 2 extra pages when the septology is complete....

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981706)

So is it worth the $200 pricetag? (Volumes 1-2 Boxset plus Volume 4, fasciles 1-5)

Not if you need to ask,

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (2)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981766)

Totally off topic. Have you checked out the 1541U-II? Great expansion device for the Commodore 64, with open source firmware written in VHDL.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (1)

GCsoftware (68281) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982578)

Yup, I've got an original 1541 Ultimate with the Ethernet port. Coolest Commodore 8 bit peripheral ever.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (2)

arth1 (260657) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981130)

It's not a novel you have either read or not read.
It's more like an encyclopaedia, where you read what you need or want, and quite often read some more to get the background.

Now I wish they would sell 4A + the empty box, so I could upgrade my 1-3. But my guess is that the publishers haven't read the books, and didn't plan for upgrades.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (3, Interesting)

haystor (102186) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981410)

I came into programming from a math background. Every time I try to read his books, the programming stuff is wonderful and then he writes something about a math problem or two and I lose a week of my life.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981440)

Why not buy 4A, get some cardboard and make your own box, if the box is that important? I'd be happy to just have them on a shelf, if I had a bookshelf. Just now it's more of a jumble of piles.

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981450)

Now I wish they would sell 4A + the empty box, so I could upgrade my 1-3. But my guess is that the publishers haven't read the books, and didn't plan for upgrades.

Its a CS computer science book. Something like "apt-get dist-upgrade" is mostly appreciated by IT people not CS people. Bonus if you understand why its apt-get dist-upgrade instead of apt-get upgrade, unless you plan on keeping your old box (for kindling?)

Re:Who else hasn't read his copy of volume three? (2)

Xtifr (1323) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981380)

Volume 3's the good stuff! It's volume 2 I've never done more than skim. (Though I do have to admit that the analysis of balanced ternary in vol2 was fascinating, but not very practical in the real world where computers use binary.)

I have the first 3 boxed (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980724)

I got the first 3 as a boxed set many years ago, so.....

Re:I have the first 3 boxed (1)

Chapter80 (926879) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981330)

Volume 4 only took 28 years to create.

Imagine how long it would have taken him, if Knuth had an email account [stanford.edu] and had to read email every day!

Re:I have the first 3 boxed (5, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981432)

He's a professor. I'm pretty sure he can procrastinate without the aid of email. He wrote an entire typesetting system as a procrastination exercise once! Most PhD students would envy that level of dedication to The Art Of Procrastination.

Re:I have the first 3 boxed (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981520)

Thank the gods he doesn't have Facebook. I've been trying to get back into programming in the evenings, but have to stop every 5 minutes to check Facebook and Slashdot.. stupid addictive personality.

Re:I have the first 3 boxed (1, Offtopic)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981908)

What you need to do is download Slashbook. It allows you to convert both Slashdot and Facebook into a single twitter feed that you can follow on your iPad. There's also an open source parallel called Facedot that works on Android phones.

Re:I have the first 3 boxed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981348)

When I bought my copies of volumes 1-3 (or rather, were given them as a gift from my wife), they weren't available as a box set.

Now get off my lawn, y

Re:I have the first 3 boxed (1)

I8TheWorm (645702) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981352)

Now you can get the fourth part of the trilogy (credit: Douglas Adams).

Re:I have the first 3 boxed (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981894)

Well, technically, it's the 3 1/2th part of the trilogy, since this is just Volume 4A.

For my part, I'll hold off buying until Volume 4 is actually complete. Assuming the world survives 2012 and Y2G [wikipedia.org] .

Re:I have the first 3 boxed (0)

ebuck (585470) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982332)

Will your car survive rolling the odometer? If so, 2012 is a safe year, considering it's just rolling the odometer of the Mayan calendar.

At least you didn't grow up with Christian nutters who thought the world would end in 2000. Oh wait, they stopped saying that back in the late 1980's because they didn't want people to remember them as frauds.

A walk down memory land (2000) [religioustolerance.org]

Proof that Christians are obsessed with the end of the world. [bible.ca]

There's nothing like a good scare tactic to keep people in church.

Re:I have the first 3 boxed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34983610)

Actually, it's the 3 1/4th part of the trilogy. Volume 4 is going to have parts A,B,C, and D

Boxed set (1)

Toe, The (545098) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980738)

What is that strange substance these books are packaged in? Some kind of plant-fiber derivative? Weird.

Re:Boxed set (4, Insightful)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980888)

It's a new feature. You buy the book, read it, and then sell it on ebay or amazon as "like new/mint" condition to recoup ~90% of your money. --- or --- If you like the book you can keep it forever without having to fear someone will delete it from your kindle. You can even pass it on to your children! Personally I think this is an improvement.

Re:Boxed set (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981442)

and then sell it on ebay or amazon as "like new/mint" condition to recoup ~90% of your money

You haven't sold many books, have you?

Re:Boxed set (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981902)

....and if he hangs on to them long enough, he might even recoup his investment many times over. You try that with an ebook.

Re:Boxed set (1)

bonch (38532) | more than 3 years ago | (#34983848)

Yes, our financial empire will begin when we resell a physical copy of Knuth's "The Art of Computer Programming" on eBay. Isn't this the same site that spent years mocking CDs for being an obsolete business model?

Re:Boxed set (1)

Galaga88 (148206) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982814)

The best part is, book works with the shelves you have at home. No need to get a new storage device.

Re:Boxed set (1)

bonch (38532) | more than 3 years ago | (#34983804)

Deleting it from a Kindle, as opposed to throwing away the physical book, losing it, or physically damaging it in some way? Not to mention that printing it on paper and packaging it as a book costs more. The advantages of digital distribution outweigh physical distribution so hugely that whining about reselling some old book is silly. This is the same Slashdot that mocks CDs for being an "obsolete business model."

Re:Boxed set (3, Insightful)

ron_ivi (607351) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981252)

But more seriously - it would make far more sense to buy this as an e-book that I can search on my computer wherever I am.

I do enough of my programming from home or from a coffee shop that it'd be rather useless to have these things stuck on my office bookshelf (except, perhaps to look a bit pretentious).

Re:Boxed set (2)

vlm (69642) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981606)

But more seriously - it would make far more sense to buy this as an e-book that I can search on my computer wherever I am.

I do enough of my programming from home or from a coffee shop that it'd be rather useless to have these things stuck on my office bookshelf (except, perhaps to look a bit pretentious).

Kindle / etc / generally seems to suffer under the load of large equations and diagrams. OK for the latest Tom Clancy or Gibbons decline and fall of the roman empire, not so hot for this application.

If you're talking about PDFs of Knuths work to read on the laptop, those are, uh, available, from the usual sources.

Personally I was more excited to receive the final (?) eighth collection of Knuths papers that being the "fun and games". Got it in the mail last week, barely cracked open yet. Has his "famous" MAD magazine articles.

Now an off the wall question, do people really program in coffee shops (other than ron ivi) ? I have the impression locally that they are bar / meat market equivalent for non-drinkers, people whom want to re-enact "friends" episodes, and homeless / urban campers ala the recent one zillion "hacker public radio" series. Do you just leave your $$$$$$ laptop and confidential corporate papers on the desk when you go to the can? Does the staff tolerate your presence?

I have worked in parks, at least a couple hours until the battery dies, its not like I'm locked in my office.

Re:Boxed set (2)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982394)

Hmm... How would you fold the cover of Mad magazine on an e-reader?

Re:Boxed set (4, Funny)

chill (34294) | more than 3 years ago | (#34983522)

Hack the e-reader to install Linux.

Install Perl.

The rest is left as an exercise to the student.

Re:Boxed set (1)

Confusador (1783468) | more than 3 years ago | (#34983944)

Expensively. It's all part of the conspiracy to get you to upgrade!

Re:Bars (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34982396)

IANAProgrammer, but I have done sufficiently erudite activities to be qualified to post something.

Coffee Shops / Bars / Restaurants are crossover categories.

When you want to do stuff in one of these locations, you search out a conducive establishment. In my modestly tourist-rural area, there may be about 10 promising locations in a 50 mile area.

It's all about the mood - find a place that isn't counting Tables Per Night or Upsell Hell. No, don't leave your laptop and papers on the table for a rest visit, - just sleep your laptop and shove the papers in your carrycase and just leave your DRINK on the table to mark your spot.

Posting AC

Re:Boxed set (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34982058)

Fucking moron. I'll bet you call your computers "boxen", too.

Just want to point out that .... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980752)

I just want to point out that these books are called "The Art of Computer Programming" and not:

The Art of Software Engineering.

The Art of Computer Science

or The Art of [insert some pretentious title]

And even without and pretentious term for what it is, it is still taken quite seriously and nobody disparages it.

You don't have to be called an engineer or scientist to be taken seriously.

Re:Just want to point out that .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981070)

You don't have to be called an engineer or scientist to be taken seriously.

Wow. Someone's got a chip on their shoulder.

Re:Just want to point out that .... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981100)

General public's view of:

Programmer: A fat guy behind a PC making Facebook and Google.
Engineer: An intelligent construction worker.
Scientist: A guy doing pointless research just so he can say he does research.

It must be admitted... (2)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980766)

From Vol 1: "However, it must be admitted that MIX is now quite obsolete. Therefore MIX will be replaced in subsequent editions of this book by a new machine called MMIX, the 2009.

I take it Vol 4A is still MIX with 6-bit bytes?

Re:It must be admitted... (1)

bunratty (545641) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981428)

No. It uses MMIX, a 64-bit RISC computer.

Re:It must be admitted... (5, Informative)

RDW (41497) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981844)

...and until Vol.1 is updated:

http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/taocp.html [stanford.edu]

'As I continue to write Volumes 4 and 5, I'll need to refer to topics that belong logically in Volumes 1--3 but weren't invented yet when I wrote those books. Instead of putting such material artificially into Volumes 4 or 5, I'll put it into fascicle form. The first such fascicle is in fact ready now (see above): It describes MMIX, a RISC machine that is used in Volume 4A; MMIX will also take the place of MIX in all subsequent editions of Volumes 1, 2, and 3.

Download the 16 Feb 2004 version of Volume 1 Fascicle 1 (583KB of compressed PostScript) (this old version is however no longer being maintained)':

http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/fasc1.ps.gz [stanford.edu]

Re:It must be admitted... (4, Informative)

C0vardeAn0nim0 (232451) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982328)

there's several erratas on his website, one of those is exactly about MMIX.

site [stanford.edu]
fascicle 1: MMIX [stanford.edu] (compressed postscript).

on the site he tells which parts of volume 1 are replaced by the fascicle.

Most used (2)

woboyle (1044168) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980814)

Volume 3 is my most used one. I pretty much devoured it when I was doing research on databases and practical optimization of sort/search algorithms. I bought the first 3 volumes pretty much when they were all first available, back in 1983 near the beginning of my software engineering career in the Silicon Valley.

Tsk, tsk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34980824)

From TFA:

"Knuth, Volume n has been published, where n = 4A. "

Single-character variable names? Shurely Shome Mistake?

Finally! (4, Interesting)

wandazulu (265281) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980854)

Given the $$$ for the boxed set, which was way more than a poor college/post college programmer could afford, I promised myself I'd get these books when volume 4 came out. Over the years I've read through and copied, a lot of times by hand, his algorithms while sitting at B&N or someplace, and I always would finish by saying "Why don't I just buy this and save me the trouble?" Then suddenly everything was on the internet, and I could refer back to my notes, and then I didn't need to look at my notes any longer, but I kept wanting to buy the books, if anything to show gratitude. Now that the 4th is out, I'm going to do it.

Re:Finally! (1)

Qzukk (229616) | more than 3 years ago | (#34983108)

And you'll buy the boxed set again when 4B comes out, followed by 4C?

And again when he releases the planned vol 5?

And again when he gets around to going back to redoing vol 1 2 and 3 in MMIX and releasing the 4th edition?

And again if he gets around to his planned Vol 6 and Vol 7?

Personally, I'll stick to the individual volumes (hopefully he will issue the changes to vol2 and vol3 as fascicles as he did with the Vol 1 Fascicle 1 release defining MMIX)

Pigs flying, hell freezing over (5, Funny)

JamesD_UK (721413) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980896)

Donald Knuth has published a book and a date has been set for the release of Duke Nukem Forever? It's all too much.

Re:Pigs flying, hell freezing over (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981014)

You left out that the Verizon iPhone.. All the Tech Unicorns are now showing up.
That being side Vol. 4 of The Art of Computer Programing is the most interesting for me.

Re:Pigs flying, hell freezing over (1)

C0vardeAn0nim0 (232451) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982360)

You left out that the Verizon iPhone.. All the Tech Unicorns are now showing up.

not all. the white iphone 4 is still the subject of legend.

Re:Pigs flying, hell freezing over (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981362)

I guess it's all to beat the 2012 deadline.

Re:Pigs flying, hell freezing over (3, Funny)

will_die (586523) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981444)

heck there are even rumors that the next book in A song of Ice and Fire will be out this year.
If the end of the earth is not this year then it is definatly next year.

Re:Pigs flying, hell freezing over (3, Funny)

butalearner (1235200) | more than 3 years ago | (#34983716)

AND the Wheel of Time will end next year. If we find out that GNU Hurd is about to be released, I think Slashdot might spontaneously implode for lack of stalling jokes.

Re:Pigs flying, hell freezing over (2)

Anne_Nonymous (313852) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981510)

>> Donald Knuth has published a book and a date has been set for the release of Duke Nukem Forever?

I guess this pretty much proves that hexagons just aren't that much fun in Civ5.

Re:Pigs flying, hell freezing over (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34982280)

Donald Knuth has published a book and a date has been set for the release of Duke Nukem Forever? It's all too much.

Well, Samba 4 should be just around the corner, then. :-)

Important note (1)

maestroX (1061960) | more than 3 years ago | (#34980904)

Don't forget to add: stack_size = 100000000000 to /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf.cnf !

Dead Serious Question (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981060)

Believe it or not, I haven't heard of this guy before now. Who is Donald Knuth and why is his book(s) a big deal?

Re:Dead Serious Question (4, Informative)

hubie (108345) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981106)

Get off my lawn!

Re:Dead Serious Question (1)

MadKeithV (102058) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981118)

I believe he used to be some kind of sweet little cuddly polar bear [wikipedia.org] that got quite a bit of attention, and though he's all grown up now I don't think any of them have written books before, so it's a big deal.

Re:Dead Serious Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981134)

I really dunno too, and there's no way to look up such info on the internet so I think we're pretty much screwed.

Re:Dead Serious Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981148)

Re:Dead Serious Question (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981206)

The 3 first volumes of "The art of computer programming" were for many years the de-facto reference for learning about data structures and algorithms using a rigorous approach.

The problems given at the end of each chapter are comprehensive and often very difficult, which make the series challenging and particularly interesting.

Today there are much better textbooks if you simply want to learn about algorithms. The TAOCP series demonstrates implementations using MIX, a made-up assembly language which is quite frankly, horrible. However, this doesn't change the fact that the series was a huge contribution to the field, and still has its merits.

Re:Dead Serious Question (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981454)

When you consider that the copyright date in my copies of V1 & V2 are 1968,72 and 1968,73, and 1980 for V3, it is amazing that these books are still of use.

It is hardly surprising that MIX is a little "odd" by the standards of today - it would be like comparing Mercury autocode with C#

Re:Dead Serious Question (2)

vlm (69642) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981768)

You can always identify people whom have never read Knuth because they get hung up on it not using the hot new language of the month. "Now with Erlang!"

On the other hand, the people that "read" Knuth but didn't understand any of it, get even by complaining about the magnetic tape merge scenarios, and "doesn't everyone just use the qsort routine anyway?"

The folks whom "get it" understand its not training, but education.

Re:Dead Serious Question (3, Funny)

siride (974284) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982096)

I had trouble following your post because every reading of one of your flagrant misuses of "whom" resulted in a cascade of aneurysms. These caused me to pause and foam at the mouth a little bit. I later regained consciousness and was able to continue reading. And then bam, another misuse of "whom"! I don't know if I will ever recover.

Re:Dead Serious Question (2)

Bigbutt (65939) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982810)

The final "its" is what caused the stroke though.

[John]

Re:Dead Serious Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34983726)

You would think someone this pretentious would at least make an effort to know the difference between who and whom.

So was Charlie Stross wrong? (4, Interesting)

JoshuaZ (1134087) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981202)

I thought that Knuth had a deal with a mysterious British intelligence agency that as long as he didn't publish volume four they would let him remain metabolically active. I hope he doesn't have some illness that made their threats moot.

Re:So was Charlie Stross wrong? (3, Funny)

RDW (41497) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981460)

It's only Volume 4A. Algorithms to generate Dho-Nha geometry curves in polynomial time aren't covered until Volume 4C, so he's safe for the moment.

Re:So was Charlie Stross wrong? (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981780)

Remain metabolically active? You mean they'd put him in some sort of suspended animation? Cryo-freeze perhaps?

Re:So was Charlie Stross wrong? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34982414)

Yes. It's called necrosis. As necromancers, the staff of said agency are particularly familiar with it.

Don Knuth finally sells out... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981324)

Obligatory Doctor Fun cartoon [ibiblio.org] ...

I'm hangin' out (1)

bigsteve@dstc (140392) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981532)

... for the spoken book edition.

Re:I'm hangin' out (1)

cpghost (719344) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982186)

Audio books? That's so old school. I'm waiting for the TAOCP Trilogy^WSeries right from Hollywood.

Getting this Right Away(tm) (1)

nitehawk214 (222219) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981550)

I'm preordaining this so I can have a chance at finding a mistake and getting a reward check.

Re:Getting this Right Away(tm) (3, Funny)

e9th (652576) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981892)

I'm preordaining this

Cool! Now we can call it the Reverend Volume 4A.

Re:Getting this Right Away(tm) (1)

el borak (263323) | more than 3 years ago | (#34983700)

I'm preordaining this so I can have a chance at finding a mistake and getting a reward check.

You don't have to race to find errors in Dr. Knuth's books. He's certainly detailed and careful, but no volume as large and complicated as his can escape small errors.

I got two checks from him (back when they were real checks) just from Digital Typography (a book I highly recommend).

Hey, that's my University getting a nod in there! (1)

netwiz (33291) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981622)

Pretty hot to see this bump for the old Alma Mater:

check the fine print at the bottom:
http://www.utdallas.edu/news/2010/10/28-6621_Computer-Scientists-Make-Progress-on-Math-Puzzle_article.html

Literary analogy (1)

VeritasRoss (1411963) | more than 3 years ago | (#34981654)

So is this series going to be just like Stephen King's Dark Tower Series?

Knuth takes forever to get the first 4 volumes out, making you wonder if he'll ever finish the whole thing. Then he will get the final three volumes out in rapid succession, but they will largely be regarded as huge disappointments by the rest of the programming community. For the most part, those last three volumes will just reference prior work Knuth has done, and talk a lot about recursion.

Re:Literary analogy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981856)

So is this series going to be just like Stephen King's Dark Tower Series?

Knuth takes forever to get the first 4 volumes out, making you wonder if he'll ever finish the whole thing. Then he will get the final three volumes out in rapid succession, but they will largely be regarded as huge disappointments by the rest of the programming community. For the most part, those last three volumes will just reference prior work Knuth has done, and talk a lot about recursion.

Is the new release basically just his fascicles (probably misspelled) in a single book?

I have been buying the fascicles for many years. Kinda interesting. Theres a pretty good, free, itunes-U video lecture of him talking about crazy bit manipulation techniques.

I bought Vol 1 in 1969. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34981774)

Don Knuth - takes a licking, keeps on ticking.

Re:I bought Vol 1 in 1969. (2)

Existential Wombat (1701124) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982246)

He needs to buck up and get a move on. He was born in 1938, at this rate he'll be long dead before he finishes...

wtf 28? (1, Funny)

kwikrick (755625) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982026)

Volume 3 was first published in 1973. That is 38 years ago. Also, the first (incomplete) paperback edition of volume 4 was published in 2005. In 2011, volume 4 is still not complete. Wtf 28 years? Please don't post again until the whole series is complete.

Re:wtf 28? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34983340)

Truly a Michael Crawford.

Re:wtf 28? (1)

swillden (191260) | more than 3 years ago | (#34984106)

Volume 3 was first published in 1973. That is 38 years ago. Also, the first (incomplete) paperback edition of volume 4 was published in 2005. In 2011, volume 4 is still not complete. Wtf 28 years? Please don't post again until the whole series is complete.

The series will never be complete. Besides the fact that Knuth is getting on in years, there's the little problem that computer science continues advancing, which has required Knuth to revise the existing volumes in addition to working on writing the new ones.

None of which affects the value of the existing volumes in the slightest, of course.

Original the best (1)

Frankie70 (803801) | more than 3 years ago | (#34982716)

Part 1 was the best. Reloaded & Revolutions were OK. I hope 4A is better.

Does he even INTEND to finish the series? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#34983494)

So, I'm being serious here and can only hope someone cares to answer this:

Does he even intend to finish the series? How long does he expect to live?
With his current rate there's now way in hell he will make it to Volume 7.

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