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Terrorists Bomb Moscow Airport

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the violence-is-the-last-refuge-of-the-incompetent dept.

Security 640

jayme0227 writes "Terrorists detonated a bomb at Moscow's busiest airport on Monday, killing 35 people and wounding another 152, Russian authorities said. President Dmitry Medvedev, who called the bombing a terrorist attack, ordered additional security at Moscow's other airports and transportation hubs, and Moscow police went on high alert in case of additional bombs." According to the NY Times, "The airport remained open on Monday evening, and passengers continued to flow through the hall where the bomb had exploded."

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640 comments

Joke Time (1, Flamebait)

y86 (111726) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984370)

Religion of peace? Or religion of PIECES.

I find the latter appears to be true more often than not. They enjoy being pieces.

Re:Joke Time (1, Insightful)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984454)

Give it a rest, if only in respect for the victims.

This is an ethnic issue between Russia and North Caucasus.

Re:Joke Time (-1, Troll)

y86 (111726) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984576)

I just started!

Re:Joke Time (1)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984606)

Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run... :p

Re:Joke Time (1)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984976)

I want my whiskey back.

Re:Joke Time (-1, Flamebait)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984582)

It was Israel.

Russia just signalled it would join the list of countries that recognise a Palestinian state.

Islamism is the excuse they use to hide the nature of the actor. It's how this little sliver of land exerts its will over the nations of the world. Blow up some trains in Britain and Spain, with the implicit understanding that next time, it could be nuclear.

Re:Joke Time (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984682)

Oh, but they signaled that long ago. Longer than you think in fact.

Because if you'd care somewhat about history you would know that for a long time Soviet Union was the main supporter of Islamic terror.

There is nothing new in their "recognition"

(And why do I even reply to tinfoil hats?)

Re:Joke Time (1, Interesting)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984958)

There is no "Islamic Terror".

There are deep intelligence operations. These are funded by Mossad, CIA, Pakistan's ISI, etc.

A complete investigation of David Headley - for just one example - would give you some idea of the nature of para-political, deep-state actors in perpetrating terror for their own ends, and the usefulness of the "Islamic" fiction.

If you think that you are capable of correctly evaluating the the real nature of these events, based on the unexamined and uninvestigated statements of official sources? Then you do not correctly ascertain the meaning or implications of the term "disinformation".

Ask yourself this: "Does my government maintain a policy of disinformation, regarding its own people? If so, how would I know? Is the reporting of independent, corporate news agencies a sufficient source of information to verify or validate these claims?"

http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php [carlbernstein.com]

http://danwismar.com/uploads/Bernstein%20-%20CIA%20and%20Media.htm [danwismar.com]

I suggest you take up mindfulness meditation for 5-15 minutes a day. Wen yourself from all "news" for one month. Then come back, and look freshly at the spinning matrix of lies.

Re:Joke Time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984934)

Isreal did it? Pass that bong this way dog. You must be smoking some good shit.

Re:Joke Time (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 2 years ago | (#34985010)

Islam is wonderful, any criticism of any religion is flamebait because superstition cannot be attacked like other ideologies.

Re:Joke Time (0)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984746)

This is an ethnic issue between Russia and North Caucasus.

Close. More precisely, it's a conflict between western values and Islamism (note: did not say "Islam").

Re:Joke Time (3, Informative)

scubamage (727538) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984920)

More precisely its a conflict between Russia and separatists in an area that Russia has long tried (sometimes occasionally) to occupy. That the separatists happen to be largely Muslim is inconsequential. educate yourself [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Joke Time (1)

scubamage (727538) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984842)

Agreed. There's time for speculation in the future. For now hang your head a moment for the people who were needlessly killed because of the feud between a couple of powerful people. On the upside, Putin will probably execute anyone involved with his bare hands... wish he was our president.

Re:Joke Time (3, Insightful)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984900)

There are lots of ethnic issues around the world. Why is it that every time some crazy fucker blows up himself and a whole bunch of innocent people he turns out to be a Muslim. Coincidence?

Re:All Religions are like that (1)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984478)

I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What god desires is here [points to head] and here [points to heart] and what you decide to do every day, you will be a good man - or not.

I can't say it better, so I won't even try.

Re:All Religions are like that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984536)

There's a difference between religion and religion; a difference between organized theism and non-organized such; a difference between islam and f.e. buddhism, and definitely a difference between core values of islam and f.e. christianity. Don't taint all religion per se just because of what the islamist swine do.

Re:All Religions are like that (3, Interesting)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984672)

All religion is tainted. The foundation of modern Christianity was forged in the inquisition and before that in the crimes of the Hebrew. No religion can be just when it is founded on oppression, rape, murder, slavery and genocide. I know this because I have lived in a "good christian home" and saw violence and depravity that few can imagine. I know this because I read my bible, every chapter, every verse, every word. Then I studied other religions and found them as filled with vile filth as my own. A good man can not found his morality on so corrupt and decayed a foundation as that.

Re:All Religions are like that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984830)

All religion is tainted. The foundation of modern Christianity was forged in the inquisition and before that in the crimes of the Hebrew. No religion can be just when it is founded on oppression, rape, murder, slavery and genocide. I know this because I have lived in a "good christian home" and saw violence and depravity that few can imagine. I know this because I read my bible, every chapter, every verse, every word. Then I studied other religions and found them as filled with vile filth as my own. A good man can not found his morality on so corrupt and decayed a foundation as that.

And where in the Buddhist Canon are is the rape, murder, slavery and genocide?

And don't say the Japanese or Chinese, because those were polluted by Shinto and Confucianism, and a far cry for the actual doctrine.

Re:All Religions are like that (5, Insightful)

kevinNCSU (1531307) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984912)

I know this because I have lived in a "good christian home" and saw violence and depravity that few can imagine

If few can even imagine the "violence and depravity" you witnessed at home, and Christianity is one of the world's major religions, it stands to reason that perhaps by any definition of Christianity that you didn't actually live in a "good Christian home". Also I don't know what version of the bible you're reading "every chapter, every verse, and every word" of but if it has anything about the Spanish Inquisition being the foundation of Christianity then you should probably buy a new one.

Re:All Religions are like that (1)

Mitchell314 (1576581) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984710)

It's murderous religious gits that taint religion, not us the commentators.

Re:All Religions are like that (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984852)

Is the difference the balance of power in the world? Is this why Christians were busy burning witches and torturing people while the Muslims were building hospitals and developing algebra?

Re:Joke Time (1)

Dayofswords (1548243) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984496)

Yes, all Muslims are terrorists, I'm sure all Christians are murderous like during the crusades too.

Re:Joke Time (1)

Philomage (1851668) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984574)

Good point, except that the crusades were 800 years ago and this is going on now...

The fact that Sudanese animists, Thai buddhists, and Philippine christians are all currently fighting for their lives against muslim invaders makes the comparison justified.

Re:Joke Time (4, Insightful)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984660)

I think the point was that condemning an entire religion for the actions of a few is, well, stupid. Be it Christian fundamentalist murderers, Islamic fundamentalist murderers, cow rapers, or fungal mutant centrists.

Re:Joke Time (0)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 2 years ago | (#34985004)

The problem with that line of thinking is that you and I both know that christian fundamentalists don't make up anywhere close to a small minority. Yet in Islam the fundamentalist happy-go-lucky splody dopes make up around 15% with nearly 70% of the 'average' non fundie muslim.

Yeah there's some serious issues that they need to take care of, but pretending it's the actions of a few when the majority supports it, is burying your head in the sand and hoping it will go away.

Re:Joke Time (2)

Anonymusing (1450747) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984694)

Point taken.

Maybe this would be better: I'm sure all Christians are like the Irish Republican Army, the Lord's Resistance Army, the National Liberation Front of Tripura, the Russian National Unity, the Ku Klux Klan, and the Hutaree.

Its in their good book (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984678)

You do realize that murdering of infidels is in their "so called" good book.

Peace is a possibility, but the infidels must be killed or enslaved first, according to this religion of peace.

And to say otherwise is contradicting the prophet is punishable by death.

Re:Its in their good book (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984774)

You do realize that the christian bible says the same thing.

Re:Its in their good book (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984960)

You do realize that the Christian Bible can be interpreted the exact same way?

Re:Joke Time (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984734)

Christians kill FAR MORE OFTEN than Muslims and with less conscience and more impunity. People like to cite "the crusades" but that is ancient history. Let's have a look at more recent history. Right here in the U.S. we see racially violence and murder which is still "condoned by their god." To this day, non-christians in this country are made to feel uncomfortable, intimidated, excluded and even in fear for their lives due to the relatively high frequency of racial profiling of law enforcement and others of official positions.

Christians somehow believe they wear the white hat of righteousness merely because they call themselves christian. Calling one's self Christian and actually being a kind, forgiving and peaceful person as Jesus Christ taught are two very different things. There IS NO KILLING IN CHRIST'S NAME allowed. He wouldn't approve if he existed -- the bible says so. Going to war for the Christan "God and Country" is simply a twisted morality at play.

Re:Joke Time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984990)

"Let's have a look at more recent history."

Such as... ?

"Right here in the U.S. we see racially violence and murder which is still "condoned by their god.""

What the F are you talking about?

"To this day, non-christians in this country are made to feel uncomfortable, intimidated, excluded and even in fear for their lives"

What? Bullshit.

"due to the relatively high frequency of racial profiling of law enforcement and others of official positions."

Again, what the F are you talking about? What does racial profiling by cops have to do with non-Christians supposedly being made to "fear for their lives"?

Obviously not afraid of terrorists in Russia (2, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984374)

Here we'd have closed the airport for days to make it look like we were doing something. There, they just pick up the pieces and move on. Guess who's not going to still be running things in twenty years?

Re:Obviously not afraid of terrorists in Russia (1, Interesting)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984572)

Here we'd have closed the airport for days to make it look like we were doing something.

Don't you think that has just a little to do with them being "used" to terrorism? The British didn't stop everything when the IRA was blowing stuff up, either.

I don't think I'm on board that our skin needs to be as thick as the Russians. It is admirable that they can move past such an event, but it's actually quite sad as well.

Re:Obviously not afraid of terrorists in Russia (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984662)

I don't think I'm on board that our skin needs to be as thick as the Russians. It is admirable that they can move past such an event, but it's actually quite sad as well.

I think it's more than a little sad that they are in such a situation. But what I find it even more than sad is hopeful. The only thing I really think it's unfortunate for people to be inured to is fraud.

Re:Obviously not afraid of terrorists in Russia (1)

swanzilla (1458281) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984612)

Guess who's not going to still be running things in twenty years?

Russia?

Re:Obviously not afraid of terrorists in Russia (0)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984626)

In Soviet Russia, close YOU!

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Re:Obviously not afraid of terrorists in Russia (2, Interesting)

somersault (912633) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984650)

Shouldn't they at least destroy their economy again with a prolonged war or something like that? How about a bit of racial profiling and cancer inducing body scanners? Seriously, where's the fun in bombing a country if they're not going to shit themselves?

Re:Obviously not afraid of terrorists in Russia (5, Informative)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984864)

Russia has been involved in a high causality war costing them a lot of money and many lives since 1999. The causality rate for Russian combat soldiers in the Second Chechen War was roughly 5 times higher than for US and allied forces during the worst fighting in Iraq at the same period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_the_North_Caucasus [wikipedia.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War [wikipedia.org]

Moscow theater hostage crisis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis [wikipedia.org]

Beslan school hostage crisis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis [wikipedia.org]

Domodedovo International Airport was the entry point for other terror attacks in the past and so it was one of the, if not the first airport with full body radar scanners - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_aircraft_bombings_of_August_2004 [wikipedia.org]

Re:Obviously not afraid of terrorists in Russia (4, Informative)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984766)

The US hasn't had terrorism in apartment buildings, urban mass transit systems or transportation hubs like Russia has, so you can't say what the American response would be.

However when there was a mass shooting at LAX in 2002, they didn't shut down the airport.

Re:Obviously not afraid of terrorists in Russia (1)

hawguy (1600213) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984872)

Here we'd have closed the airport for days to make it look like we were doing something. There, they just pick up the pieces and move on. Guess who's not going to still be running things in twenty years?

I was struck by the same thing. In the USA, the affected airport terminal would be closed for days if not weeks, causing millions or tens of millions of dollars in travel disruptions with likely flight disruption across the country as airlines reschedule flights around the damaged terminal, further compounding the economic damage from the attack.

Sympathy for the victims, lessons for us (5, Insightful)

Beryllium Sphere(tm) (193358) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984376)

Sacrificing civil liberties does not prevent terrorism.

But.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984896)

Sacrificing civil liberties does not prevent terrorism.

But exterminating the Muslims will.

Re:Sympathy for the victims, lessons for us (2)

couchslug (175151) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984980)

"Sacrificing civil liberties does not prevent terrorism."

The only level of violence and reprisal sufficient to deter terrorism is at the level of what are called "war crimes", so only societies who are both powerful and ruthless can defeat (serious) terrorists.

The only counter to people who embrace being destroyed for their cause is to destroy an overwhelming number those they are fighting for. To the extent that societies embrace the "rights" of their mortal enemies, they are unable to fight.

Limiting the rights of their FRIENDS in order to get to their enemies doesn't work very well for obvious reasons.

We should know this in case one day we decide that suicide in order to maintain the facade of righteousness is stupid

Next time you're at an airport, think about this (5, Insightful)

itsownreward (688406) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984384)

Just think about this next time you're queued up forever in the security theater line waiting to get your junk touched. It seems like the ideal place to attack an airport and get lots of casualties.

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (4, Informative)

SirGeek (120712) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984446)

Then they should have the bomb sniffing dogs sniffing you. Much less invasive and will ACTUALLY find any bomb residue/traces.

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984618)

How do you know the bomb sniffing dogs are sniffing for bombs or if you just didn't shower long enough that morning?

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (1)

JonySuede (1908576) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984962)

You have a lot more to fear from false detection triggered by the cop handling the dog than a false positive from the dog nose itself.

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984894)

They do, seen them in SEA, PDX and ANC. They also have alot of chemical sniffers installed in airports and government buildings.

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (2)

radtea (464814) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984898)

Much less invasive and will ACTUALLY find any bomb residue/traces

Right, because ONLY Terrorists(TM) have any traces of explosives on them, and not any of the mining engineers, chemists, etc, etc, etc, who happen to be passing through the airport!

Seriously: I've worked for a couple of mining and geological exploration companies and to here them tell it all these "anti-terrorist" measures do nothing but make their lives less convenient.

If I were a Terrorist(TM) I'd get a job with a mining company, get a letter from my employer certifying that I handle explosives, and then blow something up. These measures are so easy to circumvent they are hardly worth mentioning.

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (2)

Cwix (1671282) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984998)

I was a combat engineer in the Army. Trust me, you don't want to have ANY residue on you if your going anywhere near a federal building/airport.

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984936)

Except bomb sniffing dogs are actually pretty terrible with both false positives and false negatives.

Face it, you can't be 100% safe.

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (1)

piripiri (1476949) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984550)

Just think about this next time you're queued up forever in the security theater line waiting to get your junk touched.

Usually people don't wait in line in order to get their junk touched...

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984814)

Just think about this next time you're queued up forever in the security theater line waiting to get your junk touched.

Usually people don't wait in line in order to get their junk touched...

Correct, the sex industry is far more efficient than the TSA...

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984634)

in the security theater line

This is a straw man. There will be lines at the airport, with or without "security theater". They can just as easily blow you up in a crowded jetway.

No one is selling the airport gate screening as a way to make the airport safer - they are selling as a way to make the plane (and potential targets on the ground) safer. We can argue whether or not this is effective, but there's no reason to set up a bogus argument.

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984922)

This is a straw man. There will be lines at the airport, with or without "security theater". They can just as easily blow you up in a crowded jetway.

Of course there will be lines at the airport. But aren't they longer with security theatre, and doesn't that mean a more dense group of targets? Common wisdom says you show up an extra half hour or hour earlier than we used to 10 or 20 years ago, just to make sure you clear security in time for your plane.

No one is selling the airport gate screening as a way to make the airport safer - they are selling as a way to make the plane (and potential targets on the ground) safer. We can argue whether or not this is effective, but there's no reason to set up a bogus argument.

You are making a straw man argument, yourself. Where did the GP claim that gate screening was to make the airport safer? You put those words in his mouth, and then shot the argument down. GP was putting forth a theory that the big lines at the airport are made bigger by security theatre, and this should make them a tempting target.

I do enjoy the irony that you construct a straw man argument yourself in order to accuse someone else of doing the same, though!

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (1)

ACS Solver (1068112) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984664)

While this remains a fair point, this bombing was in the arrivals hall, not in the queue for security checks. But yes, sadly, it was only a matter of time before someone, somewhere decided to bomb one of the many areas of an airport you can get to without security checks. Although AFAIK, numerous Russian airports have the capability to operate checkpoints at entrances.

Don't give them any ideas (TSA that is) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984730)

That's why we need sophisticated pre-screening before people get in lines for the screening screening.

Security starts when the citizen leaves their door.

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984732)

Yup, it was only a matter of time.

What is especially scary - This was in Russia, where there are likely not to be nearly as many chokepoints that make good targets like we've created in the United States. In fact, they targeted the arrivals area.

In the US, the lines of the security area would be very easy to get to.

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (1)

Monkeyman334 (205694) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984880)

So, you're suggesting that less people would have been killed if they had gotten the bomb through screeners and on an airplane? Brilliant analysis!

Re:Next time you're at an airport, think about thi (1)

DaFallus (805248) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984914)

One article I read said the bomb went off in the baggage claim area, while the CNN article states it was detonated at the entrance to the international arrivals section. I've been through Domodedovo a few times, but without more details it is difficult to know if the bomb was detonated in the "secure" area past the security checkpoints or simply where everyone waits to greet passengers as they clear customs.

Chechens... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984398)

Ingushettia, Dagestanis....

And the religion of peace.

Nice to see... (5, Insightful)

Richy_T (111409) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984400)

"The airport remained open on Monday evening, and passengers continued to flow through the hall where the bomb had exploded."

Good to see the terrorists haven't won everywhere...

Re:Nice to see... (1)

y86 (111726) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984442)

I agree Richy.

Re:Nice to see... (1)

trollertron3000 (1940942) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984514)

Russians are very pragmatic. If it doesn't kill them they move on and consider themselves lucky.

Re:Nice to see... (1)

eugene ts wong (231154) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984562)

Already +5? Not surprising. I would prefer to see +100 Common Sense, though.

Re:Nice to see... (1)

thynk (653762) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984716)

I've been in that airport and the first impression I had was the guards smoking under the "No Smoking" sign, with an ashtray there. My last impression (as we were getting ready to come home) was that they had a little old lady cleaning the men's room. Not only was it open, no one seemed bothered by it.

Re:Nice to see... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984812)

Yeah, maybe North America will lighten up a bit eh?

Perhaps we should peruse the article..

Monday’s explosion in Moscow pointed to the continuing fascination with air travel for militants, as well as the difficulty of carrying out an attack aboard a jet, said Stephen A. Baker, a former official with the Department of Homeland Security. “They’d like to be bombing planes and they can’t, so they’re bombing airports,” he said, adding that the attack “validates the focus that the U.S. has had on security at airports.”

I guess if people start bombing lines, we'll make a checkpoint at the doors. Then when people start bombing those check points, we can create a zone around airports with checkpoints there. That should solve it.

Re:Nice to see... (1)

future assassin (639396) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984816)

>ood to see the terrorists haven't won everywhere...

That's because a lot of the people in Eastern block countries where still oppressed till the late/early 80/90's and fear is what they lived with everyday so they accepted it as port of their daily life.. Here in Canada/US people are just spoiled and the effects of WW2 have long withered away so they look to the gov for protection which the gov is more then happy to use that as a way to control and take away basic rights.

Beef it up (5, Funny)

burris (122191) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984406)

Clearly, it is time to move the security checkpoint out into the parking lot.

Re:Beef it up (3, Funny)

trollertron3000 (1940942) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984534)

Why not pre-screen them at home and then freeze them into cryo-storage for shipment?

Muslims (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984410)

So... which Muslim group did this?

Re:Muslims (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984916)

Islamic nationalist from Chechnya most likely.

In Soviet Russia (0)

piripiri (1476949) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984412)

In Soviet Russia, ... nevermind. My condolences to the families.

Lives could have been saved (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984432)

If, instead of bombing, they had just sucked on my BIG FAT NIGGER COCK!!!

If we're lucky.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984486)

Obama will say to Putin, bomb the fuck out of the Middle East with your 50 megaton bombs, we'll go "Oops our bad! We're a sucky declining broke World Power, we, the USA can't do nuttin about it.

Hopefully, Russia took out Jerusalem and we'll have World Peace.

Not exactly WWII (5, Interesting)

TheNarrator (200498) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984492)

The last time Russia was fighting for its territorial integrity 24 million Russians died. The terrorists have severely underestimated what it takes to frighten the Russian leadership into making concessions. You see, as long as all the terrorists die, the Russians don't really care. If you look at the Beslan massacre or the Moscow Theatre Seige, there was very little concern for the hostages, many of whom died during the raids by the security forces. It seems the main thing the government accomplished in both of the raids was killing all the terrorists and minimal casualties to security forces. It's probably modeled after things like Stalin's decision to not evacuate Stalingrad when the Nazis invaded.

here we go again with the violence. (1)

polar red (215081) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984504)

I can see Russia moving armies and throwing bombs ...
meanwhile in Russia : nearly 100 traffic deaths A DAY. http://www.car-accidents.com/country-car-accidents/russia-car-crash-accidents.html [car-accidents.com]

Re:here we go again with the violence. (1)

BZ (40346) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984846)

> meanwhile in Russia : nearly 100 traffic deaths A DAY.

Speaking of meaningless statistics, in the US there are over 100 traffic deaths a day.

Meaningless because it's not accounting for population differences, differences in car ownership rates, differences in the kinds of vehicles on the roads, differences in the roads, etc, etc.

So other than "a bunch of people dead every year", it doesn't mean much...

Busy? (1)

jimmerz28 (1928616) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984526)

Given that it's the "busiest" airport 35 dead isn't very high (not saying that one life isn't a lot in itself obviously), thank goodness it wasn't more.

Queue the crazy American married woman over-reacting syndrome in 6 hours...

The solution... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984528)

... is clearly to create another security lane at the entrance of the airport so terrorist can reach the passenger security lane with bombs.

Re:The solution... (1)

DaFallus (805248) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984758)

I've been through Domodedovo multiple times. There actually are checkpoints consisting of x-ray machines and metal detectors at all of the entrances to the airport in addition to the traditional security checkpoints. These checkpoints are manned by military/police personnel. When entering the airport they will randomly screen people and scan their bags.

My understanding (from numerous somewhat conflicting articles) was that this bomb was detonated in the baggage claim/arrivals area. Baggage claim is inside all of the security checkpoints so whoever did this somehow smuggled a bomb through security at Domodedovo or brought it on the plane with them from another airport.

Has NPR & NY Times linked it to Palin/Tea Part (-1, Flamebait)

swb (14022) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984600)

I know it's still early, and there's no evidence, but there must be some kind of link, right?

Re:Has NPR & NY Times linked it to Palin/Tea P (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984718)

I dunno, but some of the first commenters here already linked it to Muslims. So what's your point exactly, except that you don't see anything wrong with putting targets over the heads of politicians?

I went through this airport the day before. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984630)

It's not surprising that these idiots were able to bomb the place. Whilst there's always a guy at the door with a metal detector / baggage scanning machine when you walk in everyone just walks right through so you're not actually being scanned unless they specifically stop you (never happens unless they *really* don't like they way you look. Now of course that will change for a while... but Russia is such a big place with so many landmarks that can be targeted that there's no way to stop some lunatics from blowing themselves up in public and killing people if they're really keen on it.

The one difference worth noting is that in Russia/Israel/India etc... they just get back to work, in USA they would've created some 500 million $ memorial and immortalized the event for at least a decade.

Obligatory (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984648)

In Soviet Russia, baggage claims you!

Re:Obligatory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984850)

This in russia joke is actually clever.

Freedom to live, freedom to live free? (1)

vampire_baozi (1270720) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984666)

We've often posed the question on /., what happens when someone hits a security checkpoint? Do we add security checkpoints for security checkpoints? All we're doing is lumping people up. Given population densities, there will ALWAYS be places where people congregate. Do we go to a system of armed guards in every public place, Israeli-style? Admit that once someone has a working bomb, it's almost impossible to stop them from getting it to somewhere with lots of people and setting it off, and then invade privacy on a massive scale to prevent anyone from possibly making a bomb?

I don't like either system. But how many Russians, and how many Americans, would be willing to accept these systems? It seems like an overwhelming majority.

Accepting that there will always be a few nutjobs wanting to kill lots of people for various reasons, whose hearts and minds cannot be won (except early on, with excellent secular education programs), do we just accept that terrorist attacks are a cost of an open, free society? How does one explain it to the victims and their families? "I am sorry for your loss, but it is outweighed by the potential loss of the freedoms of the masses that is the alternative“

It's gruesome arithmetic. The freedom of a few people to live, versus the freedom of the rest of us to live free.

Re:Freedom to live, freedom to live free? (1)

cacba (1831766) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984792)

How does one explain it to the victims and their families?

The army has that one covered for you.

For a minute I thought I was on slashdot. (2)

lsdi (1585395) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984702)

But somehow I got redirected to the daily beast.

HEY! This isn't CNN (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984788)

Let's try to stay on topic here, okay?

A spike is yet to come (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984790)

This seems as part of a larger picture or a continuation of previous attacks. Very few may notice this, but the decrease in these attacks in the past few years seems temporary. The decrease in attacks seems to be as a result of the anti-terrorism surge in different parts of the world. The high oil prices means more money going to fundamentalist groups thru Zakkat donations. Even money not channeled to these terrorist groups will end up in strengthening their base so recruitments will be easier in the coming years. As soon as the anti-terrorism surge subsides, these terrorists will be able to move again after they have accumulated the funding from the high Oil prices and they will have a wider more fertile ground for recruitment also from all the extra money used to promote the fundamentalist ideologies. People need to know that there is nothing called moderate sunni islam; its either you are secular or you are not....

So much for security theater (4, Insightful)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984794)

I think that this demonstrates how utterly pointless most of airport security we've implemented truly is now that terrorists have shown that they're completely willing to blow themselves up and kill hundreds of people before getting on the plane. Why go to all the hard work of actually getting on a plane when there's plenty of people queued up at a security checkpoint that you can easily kill and cause just as much panic and terror?

There's no easy way to prevent this, unless the security checkpoint is at the front door, in which case you still have a large queue of people, even more miserable and pissed off that they have to stand inline outside. Even if they made people strip naked, it still wouldn't stop the first clever terrorist to shove the bomb up his ass.

Re:So much for security theater (1, Interesting)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984956)

See the report from the person who was actually at the airport. It seems that actually in Russia's case it really was security theater since metal detectors were optional, not mandatory as we have here. So our security would have prevented this attack (in the terminal anyway).

Re:So much for security theater (1)

DreamArcher (1690064) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984974)

Agreed. Thanks

How long until someone blames... (2)

darkrowan (976992) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984804)

... Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for this? Yes, I went there.

Re:How long until someone blames... (1)

EW87 (951411) | more than 2 years ago | (#34984884)

...Remember, No Russian.

Unfortunately you have to move on (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984868)

Terrorist attacks are horrible.

I've personally been in areas in Israel where massive bombs exploded killing and maiming dozens of people, weeks before the incident. It's a fact of life.

There are bomb scares every day in Israel. Woops. Grandpa left his grocery bag unattended next to an ATM. Area is closed off.
You can see people waiting impatiently, tapping their feet with a "come on get on with it" look at the bomb sapper in full gear is tippy toeing to the bag (abandoned grocery bag),
detonating it in minutes. Once the all clear is rang out, as the bomb sapper is nervously taking his bomb proof helmet off, sitting on sidewalk, slowly pulling out a cigarette, people are practically pushing and shoving next to him,
right next to where the "bomb" was, queuing to use the ATM.

I saw this scenario happening a few times.

People get on with their lives.

security theatre is dangerous, and only common sense, intelligence, and self-policing will work.
Make sure you design public spaces with heightened terrorist attack value (e.g. airport) well designed to lower casualty count.

oh great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984924)

I have a class on terrorism today, I'm sure this is all I'm going to hear about. So much for the class lesson I prepared for

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#34984926)

It is sad to read about such things, but people who don't follow what's happening in Russia might not know that this is a coincidence which leaves many open questions. It was the ideal time for something like this to happen, and that's why. At the beginning of the year there was a big issue in an airport in Moskow. A lot of flights were delayed, people spent a week sleeping in the airport, on the floor, with officials from airline companies absolutely not giving a damn about them. And there was no power in the whole airport. And people who came to bring water and food for free to the ones in the airport were turned back by some obscure thugs who were selling bottles of water for huge money. This whole thing was on Russian TV just a couple of days ago. There was a lot of angry people on TV and some rude airline spokesmen bragging that he'll compensate from his own bank account (while it was disclosed that for every hour of delay people can be paid like $2, so his offer looked more like a mockery). The bottom question was not if somebody will get punished or sued, but if there's something to be done to avoid such situations in the future. So here we go, this whole thing now looks like something was done. Nobody will have any success trying to get a compensation, nobody will be prosecuted, because now everyone's busy praying for the dead people and looking for the terrorists.

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