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Want Your Own Bunker Like WikiLeaks Or Pirate Bay?

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the who-doesn't-want-a-bunker? dept.

The Military 54

talljamesnixon writes "Fancy starting up your own secure ISP? A bomb-proof Cold War nuclear bunker like the ones that hosted The Pirate Bay and WikiLeaks has come on the market for just £400,000 ($635,000). Situated several metres under the rolling hills of Scotland, the Cultybraggan bunker cost £30 million to build, has space for 150 staff and includes its own BBC studio, canteen, telephone exchange and dormitories."

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Dormitories !!!! (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#35020468)

working in such a pirate outfit, in a nuclear bunker, with a lot of geeks, and living in dormitories !!!!

OH BOY !!!

Re:Dormitories !!!! (1)

Canazza (1428553) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021992)

BBC canteens, blech. There's a really good chippy in Callendar. Don't know what they'd think if they got an order for 500 Black Pudding Suppers to the secret underground bunker though.

Make a great bachelor pad... (3, Funny)

olsmeister (1488789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35020500)

ISP? Hell, I want to live there! Just think of the parties you could throw.

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35020564)

Think of the parties you could overthrow!

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (4, Funny)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021140)

Yes, nothing screams fun like bringing a girl into the middle of a seemingly empty field around dusk.

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (3, Funny)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021818)

Speaking of screams, nobody will be able to hear hers when she's "several metres under the rolling hills of Scotland". Sounds like the perfect place for an S&M dungeon... whether or not it's consensual is up to you!

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (1)

definate (876684) | more than 3 years ago | (#35026258)

I know masochists like pain, but I think most would find it punishment enough just being in Scotland.

They'd enter it for a second, reach their pain threshold, and immediately start screaming their safe word.

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (1)

Tiger_Storms (769548) | more than 3 years ago | (#35022316)

Inside a bunker so no one can hear her scream.

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021684)

Hell, I don't care about parties, I have always dreamed of a god damn nuclear bunker of my own!! Geesh, I'd buy that this instant if I had the money :D

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35022162)

Just make sure it has room for all your minions AND a shark tank!

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#35026150)

I'd buy that this instant if I had the money :D

Same here. Do they deliver?

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (1)

Doggabone (1025394) | more than 3 years ago | (#35028842)

Hell, I don't care about parties, I have always dreamed of a god damn nuclear bunker of my own!! Geesh, I'd buy that this instant if I had the money :D

I've never wanted a bunker, but I've often wished I had enough money to buy one.

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35021984)

http://www.missilebases.com/

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35025370)

I dunno, it seems to be in the arse end of nowhere (well, an hour and a half out of Edinburgh, anyway...) - I'd like my super awesome party bunker to be a little more centrally located [undergroun...tory.co.uk] .

Re:Make a great bachelor pad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35026152)

Do you mean bunker parties? The best parties, because they never stop?

let's call a spade a spade! (2)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 3 years ago | (#35020596)

one basement looks just like any other!

Re:Nuclear Armageddon (1)

miknix (1047580) | more than 3 years ago | (#35020952)

Sure it does look like our P2P servers will last longer than humanity in the case of a nuclear Armageddon. : P

Re:let's call a spade a spade! (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021402)

Until you find that hidden hatch which leads down to lower, forgotten levels. With umbrellas painted on the floor. And twisted metal cages. With ammo and weapons scattered randomly, or that you have to take off the (hopefully) dead bodies...

Re:let's call a spade a spade! (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021848)

Can I build a house for my mum up top?

Re:let's call a spade a spade! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35022970)

But on this basement you can make your own, high quality BBC programme with the more beautiful part the laid off staff of the BBC. Just think of the children of the future!

Cheap Bond Villain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35020774)

I live In Australia and that price tag is cheaper than the local housing, and no, I am not in Sydney or Melbourne.
I would buy this in a heart beat, get a white cat and a tank of sharks. Start a career as a super villain on the cheap.

Re:Cheap Bond Villain (1)

metalmaster (1005171) | more than 3 years ago | (#35020850)

for just a small added fee you could get the sharks with laser beams attached to their freakin' heads

Re:Cheap Bond Villain (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021296)

that's only in Israeli made bunkers. After all the Mossad can train sharks to attack beaches.

It must be true I read it on the internet.

Re:Cheap Bond Villain (1)

BluBrick (1924) | more than 3 years ago | (#35023758)

I live In Australia and that price tag is cheaper than the local housing, and no, I am not in Sydney or Melbourne. I would buy this in a heart beat, get a white cat and a tank of sharks. Start a career as a super villain on the cheap.

I hear waterfront property in Brisbane is pretty cheap at the moment.




Too soon?

Re:Cheap Bond Villain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35024548)

While it's not quite true at current housing prices, here in California (USA), that would buy between 1 and 3 houses depending on what major city you're talking about. Sacramento 200-300k is still about average, but San Francisco, Los Angeles, or San Jose 400-600k is the low end.

Mom's Basement.... (3, Funny)

MoldySpore (1280634) | more than 3 years ago | (#35020798)

...never looked so awesome. Although including a lifetime supply of Doritos and Snacky-cakes would sweeten the deal to where all the 30-somethings still living at home wouldn't be able to resist.

It's a buyer's market (5, Informative)

miller60 (554835) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021014)

There's actually been a bit of a boom [datacenterknowledge.com] in these underground data bunkers in recent years, but there are also plenty of "nuke-proof" data center projects projects that have failed due to cost issues. It's more challenging than you think to prepare a subterranean environment to meet the standards for hosting servers for enterprises - who are usually the target customers due to the high cost of finishing the space. There are plenty of old military facilities available for retrofits, including one that's been listed on eEBay [datacenterknowledge.com] a few times. But the old military facilities are now competing against caves - the state of Missouri has been trying to pass economic incentives [greenm3.com] to convince developers to covnert the state's many limestone caves into disaster recovery centers.

Re:It's a buyer's market (1)

swb (14022) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021702)

Do they actually put things like power generation underground? I can see where that would add a ton of complexity (emissions, fuel storage, fire suppression, air intake) and that's assuming the topside isn't overly hostile (ie, radiation, active military combat, etc) and you can tap it for air supply, water supply, etc.

Whenever I've seen the topic covered, it always seems like it makes more sense to build larger empty areas underground (or use pre-existing ones in caverns) and then fill those areas with mobile-home type structures so you have less work to do trying to deal with moisture, air quality and so on.

Caves nothing, Limestone Quarries (2)

Tekfactory (937086) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021794)

I used to work with a facility 100 feet underground, it was an old limestone quarry, more like a mine really. Anyhow they have these all over the St. Louis area, most of them are used for warehouse space. They are a constant temp about 68F and constant humidity.

The biggest problem we had was Limestone dust, it got into everything, killed dozens of hard drives. Once we got filtered air to an enclosed space everything was fine. Power seemed to be good most of the time, we still had UPS units. The only other big issue was getting new circuits to the demarc, if you're having one put in, have them run as many lines as you can afford, getting new ones takes a while.

Lastly you need borderline submariners to work there, no windows, nothing but artifical light, its psychological but some folks can't take it. I was there one week while they were recruiting and one gal quit on her first day.

Been there (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35021244)

I've actually been in that bunker a few years ago when I was in the cadets at school - was great fun getting to explore it; although it was more fun getting to play with a fully automatic rifle in a shooting range ;)

GREAT! (2)

Y-Crate (540566) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021286)

I can buy this, and then brag to the other cults that it's SO much better than THEIR end of the world refuges.

Cultybraggan is party central (1)

Chelmet (1273754) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021304)

I've spent numerous weeks training at Cultybraggan with the OTC, though never got to see inside the bomb shelter. That would have made for some amazing piss-ups.

I'll buy it (3, Funny)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021346)

How much will shipping to the US cost?

Re:I'll buy it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35021382)

It depends, do you want it shipped by overnight air or standard ground shipping?

Location, location, location (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021540)

It's not a bad location, actually. Not too far from Edinburgh or Glasgow, for when you want to do big-city things, but on the edge of the Highlands, for when you want some nice scenery. And of course a bunker at your feet for when you want to be left alone. Win, win, win!

Re:Location, location, location (3, Funny)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35021838)

And if you ever get lonely, there are lots and lots of nearby sheep!

that fireplace... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35021724)

I want to put all my servers next to the fireplace. Just for safety's sake.

Wrong picture (2)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35022182)

That picture is of the mess hall in a nissen hut in the camp, not of the interior of the bunker!

Re:Wrong picture (1)

aardwolf64 (160070) | more than 3 years ago | (#35022586)

I was wondering why their server rack was in a fireplace...

Re:Wrong picture (1)

multipartmixed (163409) | more than 3 years ago | (#35055380)

I was wondering why there would be a fireplace in an underground bunker.... Carbon Monoxide poisoning would be an omnipresent risk.

Re:Wrong picture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35047724)

I was wondering why there was a fireplace in a fallout shelter.

How about a Old NORAD BASE 3 Story Underground (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35022678)

Even Better North Bay Ontario has a HUGE Underground complex looking to be decommissioned by the FEDS. http://www.buttonvilleflyingclub.com/index.php?q=gallery&g2_itemId=2790 TOUR the Underground

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFB_North_Bay

With the formation of NORAD in the 1950s and the US's introduction of the SAGE system, CFB North Bay was selected as the Canadian counterpart to the US's Cheyenne Mountain control center. A SAGE installation was set up at the base starting in 1959, but unlike their US counterparts which were at ground level, in North Bay the entire standard three story installation was buried underground in what became known as "the hole". Later the base was also used as the control center for the Ontario portion of the two-site BOMARC missile system installed in the 1960s.

Re:How about a Old NORAD BASE 3 Story Underground (1)

loufoque (1400831) | more than 3 years ago | (#35026628)

Much more impressive for sure, but you missed the point: it is not for sale, and if it were it wouldn't be at such an affordable price.

OR (1)

DarthVain (724186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35022780)

Just live someplace no one is likely to bother bombing...

It's probably a lot cheaper.

Re:OR (1)

MostAwesomeDude (980382) | more than 3 years ago | (#35023302)

OR? Oregon's not exactly a bomb-proof place, unfortunately. Portland, OR is one of the three good West Coast spots to drop a nuke. Intel's here, Linux is here (technically, Linux is in Corvallis, but still), and we're in range of ICBMs from the other side of the Rim.

Meh. Mine's a lot nicer. (1)

TrentTheThief (118302) | more than 3 years ago | (#35025082)

Theirs doesn't have a jacuzzi and lacks basic amenities such as steam showers and nuclear reactor.

Good home for Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35025690)

Seriously, if you wanted a 'continental footprint', /. could move in there. I want to keep my net connection in North America, so I don't think I would find this bunker useful. I will have to read the article to find out what it also includes, like water (plumbing), power, access to roads, heat/cooling facilities, and local internet trunk lines. The blurb also doesn't say boo about square feet/square meters of space, and how solid the building currently remains. Extras might include distance to local amenities, although being in Scotland I would expect that there might be a pub or place to get some good Scotch Whisky nearby. Also proximity to night life (birds) might be a good thing to know, especially if you have a bunker full of geeks: it already has 'the parents basement' feel to it, but you might want to let them out and feel awkward somewhere, therefore the pub, birds, etc.

Enjoy freezing. I'll be in the Keys. (1)

Talisman (39902) | more than 3 years ago | (#35026240)

You can have your cold, dark Scottish bunker. I'll be sitting in my hurricane-proof reinforced to withstand a 20-megaton blast at a range of 2.5 miles down in Key Largo:

http://www.co-buildings.com/southeast/305/key_largo_1.jpg [co-buildings.com]

Yes, it even has an ocean view. Two, really, since if you look east you see the Atlantic, and if you look west you see the Gulf of Mexico.

Haggis vs. Coconut Shrimp
Stella vs. Corona
Whiskey vs. Margaritas
Pale vs. Tan
Highlands women vs. college girls on spring break

Yeah, you can keep your bunker.

Can it protect against raids and subpoenas? (1)

gtirloni (1531285) | more than 3 years ago | (#35026546)

Sorry, the major threat facing ISPs and entities that defy governments is the plain old subpoena. If they ever try to bomb your bunker, you'll already be in a legal shit hole.

With a chimney? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35027994)

I'd buy it for the culty braggin' name alone, but... a nuclear bunker with a chimney? Is that for collecting the fallout?

This is slashdot worthy? (2)

gravis777 (123605) | more than 3 years ago | (#35032696)

While cool, its not all THAT uncommon. There are tons of these scattered around the US and other countries. Shoot, I know someone who owns one, and moved his electronics company there. Been in it a few times.

Problem is, these bunkers are usually out in the middle of nowhere, and not in the best of condition. Once you purchase from the US government, you have to fix it up (my friend had several water pumps to pump out where water leaked into it), then you have to pay a buttload to get halfway decent internet out there. If you are going to be running an ISP, you are probably going to be sinking twice the amount of the bunker, or more, into retrofitting and fiber lines to the nearest major city.

Most people who have these simply have them for the "whoa, cool" factor.

Re:This is slashdot worthy? (1)

gravis777 (123605) | more than 3 years ago | (#35032716)

- Or Scottish government, or UK government, or whatever they are, in the case of this story

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