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Did the Chinese Military Use Top Gun Footage?

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the stay-frosty dept.

The Military 226

heidaro writes "'As part of its ongoing expansion, has the People's Liberation Army signed up Goose and Maverick? Chinese bloggers are accusing state broadcaster CCTV of using re-purposed footage from the 1986 film Top Gun for a story on a recent air force drill.' Is it just me or are communist nations very skilled at embarrassing themselves?"

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Now you've done it (2)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057054)

Now you've done it ... just wait for Slashdot to be blocked from China!

Re:Now you've done it (2)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057410)

Well let's be honest. This is for domestic consumption and it isn't like any news services in china will pick this up.
A few people in China will find it because it is so badly done. Those that bother to say anything will simply say that they used some stock footage.
It is at best amusing to us but will not matter a bit to the Chinese.

What does communist have to do with it? (5, Insightful)

Rinnon (1474161) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057070)

Seriously, I don't see what being communist has to do with embarrassing yourself. Capitalist nations embarrass themselves pretty damn often too.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057140)

Yeah but communists are inherently retarded, so it's extra funny.

Have you seen their baseball?

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (2, Informative)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057486)

Yeah but communists are inherently retarded, so it's extra funny. Have you seen their baseball?

I think you forgot that Cuba is communist. They play great baseball.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (4, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057146)

The difference being that most capitalist nations are democracies, and everybody rather expects that impermanent governments are going to bugger things up. I'd say fuck-ups are the life blood of democracy.

In states like China, where the government asserts that it knows best, these sorts of stupid stunts have somewhat more dramatic connotations. Particularly in this case, it not only raises the question as to what kind of people it has in its military and PR that think it's a bright idea to rip off footage from a Hollywood film, it also raises the more important question as to why they would even need to.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (3, Insightful)

h4rm0ny (722443) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057228)

In states like China, where the government asserts that it knows best

The US and UK governments assert that they no best through a never ending flood of requirements on educational practices, telling Doctors how to practice, how to manage land, what drugs and herbal remedies are legal and illegal, how local authorities may spend their money. There's no end to it really. In the US, it even decides who may or may not vote! All of which are direct assertions that they know best.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057296)

Your terrible grammar nullifies any argument you may have had.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (2, Insightful)

h4rm0ny (722443) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057366)

Your terrible grammar nullifies any argument you may have had.

I wrote 'no' instead of 'know' the first time I used it. That's not an error of grammar, it's just typing too quickly. It really has no bearing on any argument's legitimacy and I doubt you'd "nullify" an argument that you agreed with on those grounds.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (0, Offtopic)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057806)

Don't worry. Complaints about spelling and grammar is are just internet euphemisms for "I agree with the content of everything you say, but I don't want to admit it, so I will just complain about spelling or grammar."

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057382)

Apparently those governments need to assert more stringent requirements on educational practices, ideally requiring at a minimum that students learn the difference between "no" and "know". The truly sad thing is that may been the least retarded part of your post.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (2, Insightful)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057690)

Sorry, but there are few things more retarded than typo Nazis.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (5, Insightful)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057406)

By voting for representatives, you are seen as having had your say - it's not "the government" making the rules, it's "the people" doing so by proxy. Or so the theory goes.

Those in power might well act as if they know best, but at the end of the day they are, to some extent, beholden to the people. We can and do get rid of them if they piss us off too badly. I know it doesn't work that well, but it's still a damn sight better than being told "We are right, if you disagree you are a dangerous subversive, and there's not a thing you can do about it.".

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058228)

In theory they are doing so by proxy. In practice, they are not. Yes, if you piss enough of us off, we could vote out the individuals, but our country isn't run by individuals so much as by corporations. The Democrats and the Republic parties being the two front organizations. Dictatorships, Monarchies, etc. can also have their governments replaced if they piss off enough people. I would guess that it would be a lot easier to raise an army of 100 people willing to take part in violently taking out the current leadership than it would be to raise an army of 100 million people to try to vote the same individuals out. Even if in both cases, the majority of people are really pissed off. Word of mouth can be used in small groups to organize. Organizing 100 million people requires speaking to them. Speaking to them is by definition mass media, and our mass media is controlled by the very people that would need voting out.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (2)

Zeek40 (1017978) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057408)

The difference is, in the US or the UK, if you feel that you have a better idea than the government you can run for office and try to change things. In China, if you feel that you have a better idea than the government, you're sent to a re-education camp to convince you otherwise.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (5, Interesting)

cdp0 (1979036) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058016)

The difference is, in the US or the UK, if you feel that you have a better idea than the government you can run for office and try to change things.

Do you really believe that ? I mean really, give it a try. Without money, without support from "big business", nobody will ever hear about you. And even if people hear about you, you won't be one of their favorites, mostly because they don't know you. Running for office involves much more than just the will to do it.

And the kind of people that have the will, the money and the support are in the game for power, for their own benefit, not for ours.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057740)

That should tell you something about where our federal government is headed. "Small" and "limited" are probably not adjectives I would use.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057996)

Do you really thing that a government body is THAT stupid? Its probably misinformation to look stupid - a very common political tactic, especially if you cross it with the current spotlight on whether or not they created a space plane. Just look at it this way: how does this make you perceive them, as a gut reaction - I know my first reaction was "well if they doctored footage with Top Gun as a basis for avionics propaganda, surely they couldn't have a space plane"

My tin foil hat has multiple layers - for foil-penetrating mind-control.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (3, Informative)

royallthefourth (1564389) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058006)

The difference being that most capitalist nations are democracies,

You're making a false distinction here. China is ruled by a nominally communist party and doesn't have open elections, but the actual form of the economy is quite capitalist. There's huge factories with workers getting paid $10/day to work 16 hours in horrible conditions with no union. The factory is owned not by the state or the workers, but by a billionaire living in Shanghai. For the peasant farmers living in the country, they have little access to electricity, running water, medicine, or education. The state provides them with nothing and sometimes even takes their land to hand directly to real estate developers.
Nothing communist about it.

Also, the various dictatorships of the Middle East and South America from the past and present century were/are nearly all capitalist. What's the king of Saudi Arabia? A communist? Franco? Pinochet? Qaddafi? The kleptocrat nepotist Mohammad Karzai? Just a democratic facade. I don't have time to prove you wrong about the majority of capitalist economies existing in democracies, but it's a huge and highly suspect assumption.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (1, Insightful)

nicholas22 (1945330) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057176)

Is it just me or are communist nations very skilled an embarrassing themselves?

It's that extra little trolling that gives those extra few more page views and that make me that extra little bit more reluctant to waste my extremely limited time on slashdot.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (-1, Flamebait)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057230)

Then please do fuck off.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (0)

h4rm0ny (722443) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057312)

GP provided a plausible rationale for the way TFA article was written and provided feedback on what he likes / dislikes about Slashdot. You post said: "fuck off". I have to say that I think his adds more information to the discussion than yours.

Please feel free to predictably tell me to fuck off now and prove my point.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (1)

forkfail (228161) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057588)

if ( m_comment.IsTrollish() ) { (troll*)(&comment.GetAuthor())->Feed( false ); }

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (3, Informative)

euroq (1818100) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057948)

First of all, I think you meant to cast the Author into a Troll, not the return value of Feed into a Troll.

((Troll*)(&comment.GetAuthor()))->Feed( false );

Second of all, that is an unnecessarily complicated way to cast it by dereferencing the item, and then using pointers. It probably would have made more sense if GetAuthor() returned a pointer (then it could possibly be null sometimes), but that is not the case. The easiest syntax, then, would be as follows:

((Troll)comment.GetAuthor()).Feed(false);

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (2)

forkfail (228161) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058320)

And this is why we have code reviews ;)

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (1)

mangu (126918) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057712)

provided feedback on what he likes / dislikes about Slashdot

GP said "make me that extra little bit more reluctant to waste my extremely limited time on slashdot", which is evidently a lie, since he uses his "extremely limited time" to post on Slashdot.

I think "fuck off" is a pretty reasonable answer to such a blatant lie.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057452)

You sound commie.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057598)

Funny, its all the communists and socialists on slashdot that are making me increasingly reluctant to waste my time here.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (1, Troll)

forkfail (228161) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057570)

We've got "Mission Accomplished".

So... yeah...

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057654)

You must be a communist.

Re:What does communist have to do with it? (1, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057758)

You mean like the entire presidency of George Doubleya Bush?

Communist nations? (1)

h4rm0ny (722443) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057082)

Sounds like most Western nations, too, if you ask me.

Re:Communist nations? (1)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057476)

Well actually that was footage from the movie Independence Day, but the real laser would be a lot like that. Yeah. scary.

"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselves"? (2, Interesting)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057092)

First, this seems to be the work of a TV broadcaster, not a nation (certainly not a communist one...) ... does anyone here really think "non-commie" media are any better?

Secondly, apparently it was used as a demonstration of effects of their new missile - using a footage of exploding F-5 is even somewhat fitting, might even be not simply a case of lazy TV crew... (even if not lazy, capturing real hits would be extremely hard for little effect, they aren't particularly "cinema impressive")

And generally, regarding embarrassments - yeah, because in non-commie lands works of visual fiction would never be used in real military contexts [wikipedia.org] , that's unheard of, would be ... too, too embarrassing.

But yes, you all read that right, their main TV broadcaster is called CCTV / sarcasm meter implodes :>>

PS. BTW, regarding such movies - Les Chevaliers du ciel (aka Sky Fighters), while obviously also with completely redundant plot, is much more enjoyable all-flash-no-substance kind of deal - it has much more spectacular cinematography, nvm lots more minutes of actual flying. Unlike Top Gun (where most flight sequences filming was done from the ground) - in Les Chevaliers du ciel the majority of filming was done from the air, largely via cameras hidden in modified fuel tanks of fighters, to great effect.

Plus it's much less of "a story about a man's struggle with his own homosexuality" (via Quentin Tarantino)

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057148)

You miss the wonderful thing about communist dictatorships, especially the PRC, the TV broadcasters are run by the state. So they do represent the state. That gives us the freedom to criticize the government for their actions.

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057212)

Yeah, don't let the reality of their quite frequent "mistakes" in reporting and retractions get in your way. Of course the myth of homogeneous brainwashed flock under one leadership must be true...

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (3, Insightful)

egamma (572162) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057170)

First, this seems to be the work of a TV broadcaster, not a nation (certainly not a communist one...) ... does anyone here really think "non-commie" media are any better?

The difference is that in China, that TV broadcaster IS the government, or at least highly controlled by them. The American media are stupid all by themselves.

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057254)

Yes. Big difference. Here the media owns the state and not the other way around.

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (2)

h4rm0ny (722443) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057260)

The American media are stupid all by themselves.

If you assume that the people in control of the US media got where they are by being stupid, you're very wrong. And if you think there aren't endless close ties between the mainstream media and the government, you're even more wrong.

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057338)

So now the government = a nation, even better... (is it really so hard to miss that Chinese people uncovered this? And that government certainly doesn't like this kind of mess caused by their media, which are generally quite used to issuing retractions & corrections of "mistakes" by now? (one could expect they shouldn't be possible with all this oversight...))

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (5, Informative)

Bill_the_Engineer (772575) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057294)

You post appears to be propaganda masquerading as sarcasm. So just in case, I'd like to make the following points:

CCTV stands for China Central Television which is a state run television network. It is communist.

CCTV is the main outlet of propaganda for the government. Western broadcasters may at times use film scenes or in-house produced animations to illustrate a story, but they disclose it as a animation or for illustration purposes only. They are a third-party entity reporting an event, not part of the government trying to fabricate the event.

Your example of Powell's UN presentation doesn't seem applicable, since Powell wasn't the media and that the slide was produced by analysts and not a scene from a movie.

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (0)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057402)

If by "propaganda" you mean being quite familiarized, firsthand, with the workings of media in (past, in my area) "commie states" - then sure. Newsflash: propaganda of evil red absolute top-down relationship between those entities ... sometimes ends up looking almost humorous.

(and yeah, what Powell did was much worse than what here was done by some random TV crew ... not to mention how the US media licked from his hand)

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (2)

Bill_the_Engineer (772575) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057892)

(and yeah, what Powell did was much worse than what here was done by some random TV crew ... not to mention how the US media licked from his hand)

Okay, I'll bite. How so?

Everyone seems to have forgotten that the days leading up to the Iraq war were filled with Saddam Hussein making grandiose claims of being close to producing nuclear weapons. They also seem to have forgotten that Hussein used chemical weapons against the Kurds (google "yellow rain iraq'). Unfortunately the US intelligence community was so incapable of gathering any credible evidence to the contrary that we had little choice but to act accordingly. You can also come up with your favorite conspiracy theory about this period. Unfortunately for Hussein, his erratic behavior and his continued and increasingly aggressive stunts against the UN inspectors made the old adage "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't" less applicable. This is why a lot of politicians that are now against the war voted for it originally.

People who are opposed to the war like to revise the history leading up to the event to further vilify the Bush administration. I didn't like the idea of the iraq invasion, but let's face it a lot of the blame falls on Saddam Hussein.

I would like to point out that unlike CCTV, the American news do follow up on their news stories. The American media did questioned the Bush administration about lapses in intelligence within Iraq leading up to the war. The fact that "yellow cake uranium" was never found. No weapons of mass destruction was found (or made public). I could also mention the Valerie Plame scandal...

Again, Just from the fact that the American media eventually questioned the validity of Powell's UN presentation makes your point moot. You'd never see CCTV questioning the actions of the Chinese government.

You reminded me about an old joke that Yakov Smirnoff told, it went something like this "The Soviet Union and US enjoy the same freedom of speech. In Washington D.C. you are allowed to assemble a protest against your American government. In the Soviet Union we are allowed to assemble in Moscow to protest against your American government."

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058044)

Everyone seems to have forgotten that the days leading up to the Iraq war were filled with Saddam Hussein making grandiose claims of being close to producing nuclear weapons.

This fiction, how you manage to "remember" it, ironically only shows how nicely the propaganda machine at your place works. Sometimes / for certain people, at least.

Follow-ups many months or sometimes years later don't change how the views of enough people become shaped in a desired way by the "big scary issue". Look how significant part of the public (or even worse - of military forces in Iraq) still thinks that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11.

You remind me of jokes in People's Republic of Poland, about the Party and the Soviet Union; about legendary cabaret acts (Kabaret TEY, for example) openly driving them, also on the state TV (or even movies like "Man of Iron" managing to go through TV funding, at times)... oh, wait, you tell me they shouldn't exist?

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (5, Interesting)

advid.net (595837) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057374)

PS. BTW, regarding such movies - Les Chevaliers du ciel (aka Sky Fighters), while obviously also with completely redundant plot, is much more enjoyable all-flash-no-substance kind of deal - it has much more spectacular cinematography, nvm lots more minutes of actual flying. Unlike Top Gun (where most flight sequences filming was done from the ground) - in Les Chevaliers du ciel the majority of filming was done from the air, largely via cameras hidden in modified fuel tanks of fighters, to great effect.

Anyone who like technology, fighters, sonic boom at ground level, real footage from fighters, post-combustion by night, ... in widescreen should see this awesome movie.

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057986)

PS. BTW, regarding such movies - Les Chevaliers du ciel (aka Sky Fighters), while obviously also with completely redundant plot, is much more enjoyable all-flash-no-substance kind of deal - it has much more spectacular cinematography, nvm lots more minutes of actual flying. Unlike Top Gun (where most flight sequences filming was done from the ground) - in Les Chevaliers du ciel the majority of filming was done from the air, largely via cameras hidden in modified fuel tanks of fighters, to great effect.

Anyone who like technology, fighters, sonic boom at ground level, real footage from fighters, post-combustion by night, ... in widescreen should see this awesome movie.

The problem is Top Gun was a chick flick where the leading man happened to be a pilot. I think your "sky fighters" sounds more like an action flick.

Chick flick - boy meets girl, boy looses his emotional crutch (his RIO copilot died) and questions if he's right or wrong. In the end, boy and girl live happily ever after. They fly around and stuff but its just to give him something manly to do between romantic moments.

I'm guessing the action flick is just endless chase scenes and explosions like any other action flick.

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057386)

BTW, regarding such movies - Les Chevaliers du ciel (aka Sky Fighters), while obviously also with completely redundant plot, is much more enjoyable all-flash-no-substance kind of deal - it has much more spectacular cinematography, nvm lots more minutes of actual flying.

A movie made 20 years after Top Gun has better effects? Shocking!

Unfortunately, I'm no longer 10 years old, so I doubt I'll enjoy it as much.

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (4, Insightful)

sznupi (719324) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057662)

Actual cinematography (in this case the results of most basic choices about camera placement) = effects? Since when?

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (1)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058208)

Since he's 11 he probably never knew a time when shots were physically composed and not just manipulated on a computer.

Re:"Commies skilled an(sic) embarrassing themselve (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057524)

Propaganda for sure. A case of fabricating footage to support an idealized story.

Similar to FOX splicing together video footage from different events for coverage in Washington, D.C..

I'm just glad FOX isn't state-run.

Embaras? You dont get it.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057100)

You dont get it, comunists dont care what *you* think, communists only care what *their* subjects think.

Re:Embaras? You dont get it.. (4, Interesting)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057194)

I beg to differ. China has made all sorts of bellowing noises against things they felt would embarrass them on the international stage. I'm thinking here of the film about the Uighur leader that China demanded an Australian film festival not show, and the film festival's website was suddenly the victim of cyberattacks pretty obviously coming from China.

China is extremely sensitive of its reputation.

Re:Embaras? You dont get it.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057360)

China is extremely sensitive of its reputation.

Don't want to spoil the surprise Chinese expansion! We are your friends. Pay no attention to the activity behind the curtain.

Save Face (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057616)

Oh boy, they are losing face big time here !!!!

heidaro is an idiot. (1)

MichaelKristopeit401 (1976824) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057114)

Is it just me or are communist nations very skilled an embarrassing themselves?

is it just me or are you an ignorant hypocrite?

moron.

Re:heidaro is an idiot. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35058130)

At least he isn't the lowest form of ignorant troll on Slashdot - the Michael Kristopeit401 - if that is your real name. Oh sure, next I bet you will tell me it IS your real name, and how nothing I say matters because I am not willing to post a fake name that I claim is my real one. Then you will probably tell me how you are an inbred, ignorant, cheeshead moron who likes to fuck sheep. That I will probably believe, but nothing else you say.

Moron.

Re:heidaro is an idiot. (1)

MichaelKristopeit404 (1978298) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058214)

why do you cower in my shadow? what are you afraid of?

you're completely pathetic

so where's the RIAA now? (5, Insightful)

v1 (525388) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057162)

this ought to be good... I want to see the suits show up at a door, knock, and open it to see a tank barrel in their face. (sort of like in the Simpsons episode)

oh wait I forgot, the RIAA doesn't pick on anyone that can defend themselves.

Re:so where's the RIAA now? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057226)

's/RIAA/MPAA/g'

Re:so where's the RIAA now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057528)

If should be the MPAA that sends in their army to put the Chinese government in its place, not the RIAA.
Sic'um!

In Communist China... (4, Funny)

kerskine (46804) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057174)

...Maverick Gooses You

Re:In Communist China... (1)

LifesABeach (234436) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057504)

The one major fact I find myself fascinated with is that it was various Chinese locals that spotted the pirated footage first. "TOP GUN" as a Chinese cult film? Amazing. Chinese locals taking the moral high ground with their Big Business, and Government? China? What's going on over there?!

Re:In Capitalist USA... (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058040)

Maverick Gooses You during a 2008 presidential bid.

(Maybe that's why McCain chose her as his running mate)

WSJ report and comparison video (5, Informative)

Novus (182265) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057200)

The Wall Street Journal has a report including a comparison video [wsj.com] .

Damn! (4, Funny)

PPH (736903) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057236)

I was looking forward to a video of a Chinese pilot lip-syncing You've Lost That Loving Feeling.

Re:Damn! (4, Funny)

halivar (535827) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057298)

"You've rost... dat ruvvving feering... whoah dat ruvving feering...."

Re:Damn! (2, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057438)

"You've rost... dat ruvvving feering... whoah dat ruvving feering...."

-1 Twoll
   

Re:Damn! (1)

hduff (570443) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057876)

If the Chinese government is spun around and around, does it become disoriented?

Re:Damn! (2)

martyros (588782) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057888)

Funny, but Chinese have an "L" sound. You're thinking other asian languages, like Japanese / Thai. [/nitpick]

Re:Damn! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35058282)

agreed. this joke gets very very very old and quite stale. the chinese language does indeed have a phonetic sound for L and for R (laoren for example). these 2 sounds are very prominent in all dialects spoken in china.

Re:Damn! (1)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057300)

Just be happy they didn't use the volleyball scene from Top Gun.

Re:Damn! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057340)

Actually, it would be "You've Rost That Roving Feering"

Two words (1)

Darth_brooks (180756) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057308)

Volleyball Scene.

Riceman? (5, Funny)

locutus53 (578585) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057314)

Riceman?

Re:Riceman? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057518)

Sure, Riceman was there, along with Wiper, Rester, and Rollywood.

Re:Riceman? (1)

locutus53 (578585) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057780)

ROR!

For everybody posting anti-western crap (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057332)

go fuck off to China
to the rest of you, drop your cocks and grab your socks gentlemen
beach volleyball at oh-ten-thirty after we wipe the skies with these commie fucks.

Re:For everybody posting anti-western crap (1)

amiga3D (567632) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057404)

Give 'em a break. All the over educated elite are still upset that the USSR lost the cold war. They're rooting for china to succeed and win out over those evil capitalists.

You haven't experienced (2, Funny)

confu2000 (245635) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057450)

Top Gun unless you've watched it in the original Klingon.

Re:You haven't experienced (4, Insightful)

blackbear (587044) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057990)

I would have written:
You haven't fully experienced Top Gun unless you've watched it in the original Chinese.

With the above you allude to the original joke without hitting us over the head with it. Thus giving all of us who "get it" a chance to look down our collective noses at those of less depth in Sci-Fi pop culture.

Is it me? (1)

flex941 (521675) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057458)

Skilled an embarrassing indeed.

This was a deliberate message from China. (1)

SETIGuy (33768) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057472)

They just wanted us to know they've lost that lovin' feeling.

The habbit of pirating is hard to kick (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057480)

You do it enough, it becomes second nature.

Re:The habbit of pirating is hard to kick (1)

Azghoul (25786) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058078)

Isn't a habbit that funny looking hat thing that hobbit nuns wear?

Communist china? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057532)

China is a communist nation [citation needed]

Surly America has grown beyond calling everybody Commies by now?.. Guess not!

Re:Communist china? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057938)

I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't hear you over the sound of all the facts.

People's Republic of China
    Single party-led republic
    President: Hu Jintao
        Political party: Communist Party of China
    Premier: Wen Jiabao
        Political party: Communist Party of China
    NPCSC Chairman: Wu Bangguo
        Political party: Communist Party of China
    CPPCC Chairman: Jia Qinglin
        Political party: Communist Party of China
National People's Congress
    Communist Party of China (2,099)
    United Front Democratic Parties & Others (888)
        (United Front: a nominally popular front led by the Communist Party of China)

For some reason commies love to call themselves "democratic" and claim they're the "people's" party/government/whatever. For some reason it's never very hard to see through. For some reason, you're an idiot.

they are liars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057550)

This just shows that the Chinese government is a bunch of liars.

It's macabre but commendable (1, Funny)

bugs2squash (1132591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057590)

That tolerances on fighter jets and A2A missiles have gotten so tight that every explosion is so repeatable and deterministic. Kudos to the engineers, mechanics and of course the pilots I say.

Ironically... (1)

dvoecks (1000574) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057638)

The Navy only allowed them to fire on real missile during the making of "Top Gun", and the rest were done in miniature. So, the odds are pretty solid that the footage they posted was "fake" anyhow.

Maybe the Chinese should work on their own special effects dept.

Re:Ironically... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057794)

Maybe the Chinese should work on their own special effects dept.

Oh no, that would mean outsourcing Hollywood jobs to China... never gonna happen cuz they paid for Obama's election

Obama surrenders ;) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057652)

We just can't compete with their technology. Oh wait, when it comes to *lying* - YES WE CAN!

New meme! (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057724)

In Communist China, state owns media!

Chinese Innovation (2)

ddd0004 (1984672) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057726)

That's brilliant. All government should punch up their official communications with movie and tv show clips. The state of the union address would be much more exciting dubbed over a couple old episodes of the A-Team

Re:Chinese Innovation (3, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | more than 3 years ago | (#35057914)

I love it when the economy comes together.

Wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35057764)

Doesn't everyone?

If only.. (1)

Anonymous Meoward (665631) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058184)

If they had only taken Kenny Loggins too, nobody would have complained.

tower flyby! (1)

k6mfw (1182893) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058340)

How about a tower flyby when a top general of the Chinese Air Force visiting the control tower and while sipping really hot tea, and wham! He cusses all kinds of expletives, but with it in Mandarin FCC cannot understand and out it goes on USA networks...

Who is the target audience? (1)

udoschuermann (158146) | more than 3 years ago | (#35058344)

It only matters whether their own people believe the video.

If some do not, what are the chances that news of their blunder spreads? And if this really blows up in their face, what are the chances that the government won't push the blame onto someone else?

The bottom line is that this kind of stuff can be effective propaganda: How would the Chinese people feel about going to war if this video were presented as proof of a foreign invader or spy being shot down by valiant Chinese defenders? Manufacture a few more like that, and before long the people will feel sufficiently threatened to accept fewer rights and more police control, and approve of the invasion of evil nations.

Hands up, who can tell us where else in the world this kind of thing has worked like a charm? Hint, it wasn't a communist nation. Extra credit for multiple examples in different time periods. :)

Chinese Pirates! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35058354)

Frying the Jet Pranes!

WTF! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35058364)

Viper: Good morning, gentlemen, the temperature is 110 degrees.
Wolfman: Holy shit, it's Viper!
Goose: Viper's up here, great... oh shit...
Maverick: Great, he's probably saying, "Holy shit, it's Maverick and Goose."
Goose: Yeah, I'm sure he's saying that.

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