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DailyMotion Now Streaming Live News

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the avec-vergence dept.

Media 48

An anonymous reader writes "Beet.TV reports that DailyMotion has begun streaming live news from Al Jazeera, BBC, and France 24 among others. They write, 'Paris-based DailyMotion, the world's second biggest online video site, has integrated with London-based live news portal Livestation to provide a number of live streaming television news networks including Al Jezeera, Bloomberg, the BBC, France 24, and sources from other nations as well as from oganizations including the United Nations and NASA.'"

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Link (3, Informative)

tenZygzak (1396535) | more than 3 years ago | (#35188866)

Nope it's here. (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35188976)

No, it's here. [livestation.com] There's no need for signing up for anything.

strange story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35188870)

Kind of a commercial, isn't it? I mean, it's fine that it exists, but I kind of feel like so what.

Re:strange story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35188900)

I did not RTFA. But perhaps one notable aspect is that DailyMotion has been experimenting with HTML5 video. Perhaps this is the first example of the video element being used to stream news.

Re:strange story (3, Informative)

cpicon92 (1157705) | more than 3 years ago | (#35188938)

I just tried it. HTML5 doesn't work with the live streaming (at least for the time being).

Re:strange story (2, Informative)

mspohr (589790) | more than 3 years ago | (#35188992)

It's a big deal to have Al Jazeera in the USA. Most cable systems don't carry it out of a kind of xenophobic fear of a "foreign" point of view.

Re:strange story (1)

commodore6502 (1981532) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189294)

I get al-Jazerra from LINK TV and MHZ in Washington and Philadelphia via antenna television (free). Probably other locations as well. And they show Chinese daily news in the original mandarin

http://www.linktv.org/ [linktv.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHz_Worldview [wikipedia.org]

Re:strange story (0)

mspohr (589790) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189396)

I get Al Jazeera on LinkTV also (through Dish satellite). However, most cable systems don't carry it and it's rare to find an over the air broadcast of Al Jazeera.

The cable systems seem to have lots of channels available for shopping channels and of course Fox news but can't seem to find the space for a "foreign" news network.

LinkTV carrying Al-Jazeera is recent (1)

rsborg (111459) | more than 3 years ago | (#35190546)

... probably due to AJE's spectacular, consistent coverage of the Egyptian revolution.

Re:LinkTV carrying Al-Jazeera is recent (1)

commodore6502 (1981532) | more than 3 years ago | (#35195514)

Is it? I've been watching al-Jazeera for two years now. Maybe I was watching it on the MHz network then? I honestly didn't pay much attention - I just know it's channel WYBE 35-2 or 35-3

Re:strange story (0)

camperslo (704715) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189548)

I believe it is region dependent, but some can see them from their own site with no problem. wikipedia has plenty of background info on them. Their depth of coverage surprised me.

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ [aljazeera.net]

A free-to-air satellite system can legally pick them and others up for just the price of the hardware.
Galaxy 19 North America 12152 H / 20000 / 3/4

They're also on MHz WorldView which is on some cable systems and public tv stations (such as subchannel 28.4 of KCET Los Angeles) (a couple of newscasts a day) MHz WorldView also has news from Israel, Japan, France, Germany and other English language international news sources)
Note they they carry other interviews and in-depth features not included when getting only the newscasts.

http://proweb.myersinfosys.com/week.php?timezone=0&station=world&channel=MHz+Worldview&airdate= [myersinfosys.com]

http://www.mhznetworks.org/mhzworldview/programming/ [mhznetworks.org]

KCET has been running extra newscasts on their main 28.1 channel and cable feeds, and at least temporarily streaming from their web site.

http://www.kcet.org/egyptcrisis/ [kcet.org]

As always it's good to get a broad perspective and be less affected by any bias by getting news from a variety of sources

If something you'd like to see isn't on a cable system you use, ASK THEM TO ADD IT.

Those who saw news that didn't provide info on Google advertising employee Wael Ghonim from Dubai, part of the "April 6" group, the one who posted the January 25 Revolution Facebook page and got training from some involved with actions in elsewhere, may have seen more limited coverage. Wael Ghonim was detained for 12 days. His at times tearful interview following release certainly boosted the protest crowds that had started to wane after so many days. Early-on, RT (Russia Today) showed matching fist graphics used by the April 6 group and another and claimed that showed U.S. ties. (I'd ju

It's not every day one sees whip-carrying police on camels and horses. (I almost chocked on a sandwich when I saw NHK Japan report the animals as ceremonial. Opps! They missed the scenes showing the riders with whips. The blankets on the animals were surprisingly colorful. NHK generally has very high quality programmming) The Israeli broadcasts reflect nervousness,,,

On a funnier note, checking out some Spanish language coverage online led me to find a bug in Google translate (also seen in a 3rd party Mac Widget that uses it).

Does Google know something we don't??

"en esta capital" in Spanish translates to "in Beijing" in English!

http://translate.google.com/ [google.com]

http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/calculate_convert/texttranslation.html [apple.com]

(those utilities are useful if one checks out some of the twitter feeds mentioned in coverage which include some in Arabic language)

Re:strange story (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189850)

Does Google know something we don't??

"en esta capital" in Spanish translates to "in Beijing" in English!

Google uses machine translation, which is typically probability based. The translations for word phrases of various lengths are learned automatically from collections of primary documents. Then, when a phrase like "en esta capital" is seen, there are several subphrases like "en esta" and "esta capital" which can give different translations. The highest probability match over all the recognized phrases in the sentence (more or less, without getting technical) is what gives the translation. That's why translations often look weird, there's no underlying semantic modelling.

Re:strange story (1)

Jasonjk74 (1104789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35191726)

Here's another location where you can find it, in addition to news from numerous other countries. http://wwitv.com/portal.htm [wwitv.com]

BBC Licensing (3, Informative)

stepdown (1352479) | more than 3 years ago | (#35188952)

Does anybody know if streaming BBC news in this manner requires you to have a license fee?

I think the position, at least on the BBC's own site, is that while you can play pre-recorded shows without one, a license is required to stream BBC programs live [bbc.co.uk] which was clarified with the release of smartphone apps [electricpig.co.uk] .

Re:BBC Licensing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35189108)

The legal position is that if you live in the UK you require a license for any device which receives live-to-air television. This includes live streams via. the Internet (but does not include on-demand iPlayer services). The moral position is that as a license payer I don't give a shit. That appears to be the general feeling within the BBC. Without knowing the specifics of how it's being done, I'll point out is possible to receive BBC transmissions outside of the United Kingdom (France, Ireland, Belgium & the Netherlands for example) and the license fee would not apply in those cases.

Re:BBC Licensing (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35189270)

"Without knowing the specifics of how it's being done, I'll point out is possible to receive BBC transmissions outside of the United Kingdom"

It's called Free To Air satellite TV, which includes all BBC channels, Five, most of the ITV and Channel4 channels (not all +1 variants and HDTV channels are FTA) and bunch of other crap on Astra 2 transponders.

Re:BBC Licensing (1)

kwark (512736) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189238)

Depends, do you live in the UK? Then yes. Any apparatus capable of receiving live TV programmes needs to be licensed, there is not limitation to iplayer.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/downloads/what-if-tv-licence-is-not-needed/NoLicenceNeeded.pdf [tvlicensing.co.uk]
1. Purpose
1.1 To state the BBCs policy with respect to those places, occupied as residential
        accommodation and non-residential premises, whose occupier has declared
        that there is no television receiving equipment being used at the address to
        receive live broadcasts (known as making a No Licence Needed claim).
1.2 Note that ,,television receiving equipment refers to any apparatus used for
        receiving (by any means) any television programme service as defined in the
        Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004.
(http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/692/regulation/11/made)
1.3 Note also that "received" means receiving a TV programme as it is being
        broadcast on TV. It does not include receiving programmes by means of a
        DVD or the on-demand elements of services such as i-Player.

Re:BBC Licensing (1)

gilgongo (57446) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189476)

"Any apparatus capable of receiving live TV programmes needs to be licensed"

Sigh. No, the policy you quote does not say that. It says no licence is needed if the "occupier has declared that there is no television receiving equipment being used at the address to receive live broadcasts".

Re:BBC Licensing (1)

kwark (512736) | more than 3 years ago | (#35191228)

Is my English really that bad, that I made the wrong conclusion. I'll repeat it:
"Any apparatus capable of receiving live TV programmes needs to be licensed"
Now your statement:
"It says no licence is needed if the "occupier has declared that there is no television receiving equipment being used at the address to receive live broadcasts"
Now remove the double negatives:
"It says a licence is needed if the "occupier has declared that there is a television receiving equipment being used at the address to receive live broadcasts"

Now the only thing to argue about is: what is a television set and what is a live broadcast. Respectively handled by points 1.2 and 1.3 of the NoLicenseNeeded.pdf:
"1.2: any apparatus, receiving by any means"
There is no restriction on technology or carrier nor on device.

"1.3: as it is being broadcast on TV"
Not only at the same moment/timeframe (simulcast). But also just like seen on TV (a continues stream) as opposed to on-demand selecting of a single programme.

Re:BBC Licensing (1)

Verunks (1000826) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189408)

this is BBC world not BBC 1/2/3, I can watch it for free via sat or dtv and I'm not in uk, I think it's free all over the world

Re:BBC Licensing (2)

camperslo (704715) | more than 3 years ago | (#35190056)

The BBC provides service in many different languages and to many regions. Under pressure to cut costs, some cutbacks are planned. They want to hear from those affected to gauge impact.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12283356 [bbc.co.uk]

A little summary of how things are now... (2)

Nrrqshrr (1879148) | more than 3 years ago | (#35188988)

Al Jazeera's and Al Arabia's main audiences are Arabic ones. And, only lately, did the average Abd El Mottalib discover that Facebook and Youtube could be used for something else other than shitty oriental\pop culture star stalking.
Only after the Tunisian revolution did Al Arabia (The second largest arabic news channel) start advertising their online live streaming news and Facebook insta-notifications (I don't really know when did Al Jazeera start doing that, never cared about that one).

Point is, Arabic news channels only discovered that the internets could be useful in brain washing after the recent events, the same day dictatorships discovered it. The fact that Dailymotion jumps in the bandwagon this late is rather... "Meh".

Re:A little summary of how things are now... (2)

mr100percent (57156) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189336)

Al Jazeera has been broadcasting online for at least 3 years, when I started watching online. They do podcast some of their shows and have some pretty quality international reporters. Livestation.com is where they mainly stream from

What is new? (2)

Memroid (898199) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189006)

I'm confused. Didn't Livestation already exist? What is DailyMotion bringing to the picture?

Orange's gonna take over the internet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35189026)

DailyMotion is highly influenced by the French ISP called Orange [wikimedia.org] which is suspected of prioritizing some contents and slowing down Megaupload [torrentfreak.com] and other websites. Besides, there are people from the french government [orange.com] working for them which are the ones who came up with the HADOPI law [wikimedia.org] . Knowing all that, I wouldn't trust news coming from DM.

Re:Orange's gonna take over the internet! (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189894)

Don't be silly. In France, people from the French government are working with all the major French corporations. It's a revolving door going both ways at that level.

This Content is not Available (2)

iknowcss (937215) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189032)

I've been dying to have access to BBC World streaming, but apparently being in the US prevents me from receiving European propaganda. Anyone know how I can watch this without getting the ever infuriating "this content is not available for your country"?

Re:This Content is not Available (1)

ocdscouter (1922930) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189058)

From what I can tell, convincing the BBC to renegotiate its North American licensing and distribution arrangements is your best bet. I too find it a bit aggravating.

Re:This Content is not Available (1, Interesting)

Thing 1 (178996) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189110)

Get an AWS account, then set one up in an EU theatre. You'll probably have to double-download (watching from a remote machine might not be pleasant) but at least you'll be able to get the content. By the way, AWS is Amazon Web Services, and you can run a free mini-instance forever.

Re:This Content is not Available (1)

david.given (6740) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189448)

By the way, AWS is Amazon Web Services, and you can run a free mini-instance forever.

Are you sure? According to their Free Usage Tier [amazon.com] page, you only get the free 750 hours of micro instance usage per month for the first 12 months --- after which you have to pay. Unless there's information elsewhere I don't know about?

Re:This Content is not Available (1)

Thing 1 (178996) | more than 3 years ago | (#35192684)

Aha! Thanks, figured there was a catch in there somewhere. Still, great price to get started with.

Re:This Content is not Available (1)

david.given (6740) | more than 3 years ago | (#35193142)

Damn!

Oh, well...

Re:This Content is not Available (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35190544)

Use vidalia
    edit torc file
add
StrictExitNodes 1
ExitNodes {gb}

set to proxy and watch away

Re:This Content is not Available (2)

isorox (205688) | more than 3 years ago | (#35191712)

I've been dying to have access to BBC World streaming, but apparently being in the US prevents me from receiving European propaganda.

BBC World is a commercial channel, its funding comes from advertising and distribution contracts in many regions. American cable companies pay the BBC to carry BBC World, streaming it to the public over the internet would hinder future negotiations.

Likewise, streaming the domestic BBC News channel would impact this, however has the additional problem that sometimes the domestic channel broadcasts things from wires that the BBC only has UK rights for.

Overrated (1)

omb (759389) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189318)

All this watch this crap is just a huge waste of time,

If you can read, and I know that is now rare in the US just do that,

If you have an imagination too the Porn is better.

Re:Overrated (1)

foobsr (693224) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189960)

If you can read, and I know that is now rare in the US just do that.

You did not realize that semi-literacy is compensated by the super-human ability to simultaneously stream input from different sources (aka multitasking) in this digital age, did you? This of course also voids your argument regarding 'waste of time'.

Besides, the phenomenon seems to be global, so the US may not claim to have the lead here.

CC.

Al Jazeera has been available in the US for YEARS (2)

Bob Cat - NYMPHS (313647) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189388)

It's on the Internet, though, and I know most slashdotters don't use that much.

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ [aljazeera.net]

Also on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish [youtube.com]

The ./ editors must be getting kickbacks from that beat.tv blog and dailymotion to run such a lame story.

Re:Al Jazeera has been available in the US for YEA (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35190272)

English.aljazeera.net's streaming video stutters and has low resolution. Livestation and the bunch have HD streaming for paid customers.
However, Youtube has 720p HD streaming for free! Just select 720p for the resolution and display it fullscreen

Re:Al Jazeera has been available in the US for YEA (2)

textstring (924171) | more than 3 years ago | (#35191056)

Or the one-liner to watch AJE from the command-line:
rtmpdump -v -r rtmp://livestfslivefs.fplive.net/livestfslive-live/ -y "aljazeera_en_veryhigh?videoId=747084146001&lineUpId=&pubId=665003303001&playerId=751182905001&affiliateId=" -W "http://admin.brightcove.com/viewer/us1.24.04.08.2011-01-14072625/federatedVideoUI/BrightcovePlayer.swf -p "http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ -a "aljazeeraflashlive-live?videoId=747084146001&lineUpId=&pubId=665003303001&playerId=751182905001&affiliateId=" | mplayer -
Other 24/7 live RTMP streams here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564760/ [ubuntu.com]

I'd be surprised (1)

stalky14 (574130) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189480)

...if BBC News is available in the US. Their live streams always seem to be blocked here, despite being freely available (as well as by FTA satellite) in many other countries. Presumably they have a US distributor they want to protect, but AFAIK BBC World is only available on 3 carriers in the US: Verizon Fios, Cox, and Cablevision in NYC. If you are outside their territories you are SOL. They used to offer a poor quality stream on Real Networks' streaming package, but it was overpriced ($20) a month and came with a lot of unwanted crap. It's a shame. I'd happily pay them $5 a month (or pay Dish Network *AHEM* $5 a month) for access. Oh well.

Dailymotion also good for soccer highlights (2)

ub3r n3u7r4l1st (1388939) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189730)

They are not subject to the DMCA. You can find large number of highlights from matches happened just a few hours ago, and a lot more if you been given the "hidden" link to the video.

somewhat useless in America (1)

atarione (601740) | more than 3 years ago | (#35189924)

meh...

sooo... I can't watch the god damn bbc news channel in English *not available for your country**

but i can watch France24 (English) or bbc Persia or of course bbc world service radio....

quite useful indeed.... once I learn Persian that is... i did learn that i'm not that interested in France 24 (English) or in French however so that is something.

i realize it is more of a dream now than ever, but it would be nice if stuff was either 'on the internet" for everyone or just not on the internet at all fucking sick of content you can or can't view depending on what country you are in... WORLD WIDE WEB motherfuckers =p

Re:somewhat useless in America (2)

Compaqt (1758360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35190916)

Download the Livestation desktop app. There are more channels than just the ones shown on the website. Some NY/LA local channels, too.

Livestation's not at critical mass yet, but it's nice for some uses.

Fair and Balanced streaming? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35190242)

WTF? It does not stream any Fox News or other Rupert Murdoch spew, so how can this shite be considered "fair and balanced?"

Epic global streaming Fail. /s

Recording Livestation streams (1)

Compaqt (1758360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35190926)

Anybody have an easy solution for this?

Or even a hacky Linuxy solution?

I know that VLC can record mms streams, but Livestation doesn't seem to expose the mms address.

Using the desktop client in Debian/Ubuntu 64-bit (1)

moonbender (547943) | more than 3 years ago | (#35191824)

They've got Linux downloads, including a .deb, even. However, the current version is "[n]ot currently compatible with x64-based Linux due to incompatibilities with the libraries." I could still install it using sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture /tmp/Livestation-3.2.0-i386.deb, and it seems to work fine (on Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit). It makes you register an account on first startup (or use your existing one, obviously), but it's quick and using completely bogus info works fine.

Watch Times Now English News (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35196918)

Watch Times Now English News Live Online With High Quality at Yupptv.com

http://www.yupptv.com/timesnow_tv_live.html

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