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Anonymous Goes After GodHatesFags.com

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the will-change-the-church's-facebook-relationship-status dept.

The Internet 744

An anonymous reader writes "Anonymous is now recognised as a serious force to be taken seriously, but its activities aren't confined to mass global protests, as the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas, is discovering, according to p2pnet. Says the Examiner, 'Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church is infamous for their "Love Crusades," obnoxious displays of insensitivity and homophobia at the funerals of fallen American soldiers. The controversial if monotone message of the "Love Crusade" seems to be to blame everything that is wrong in the world on homosexuality. The crusades are part of a hate-based mission started in Kansas by the WBC and Fred Phelps.' In an open letter on AnonNews, 'We, the collective super-consciousness known as ANONYMOUS – the Voice of Free Speech & the Advocate of the People – have long heard you issue your venomous statements of hatred, and we have witnessed your flagrant and absurd displays of inimitable bigotry and intolerant fanaticism,' says Anonymous, stating 'Should you ignore this warning, you will meet with the vicious retaliatory arm of ANONYMOUS.'"

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I don't think they care (1, Funny)

pipatron (966506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250052)

I don't think their target group knows nor care about what a computer is, so ANONYMOUS won't be able to do much damage here.

Re:I don't think they care (3, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250074)

Unfortunately, your contemporary wackjob zealot obtains his morals from a questionable understanding of iron age writings about a sociopathic tribal deity; but often shows an otherwise modern understanding of things like computers and small arms...

Unfortunately they do (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250090)

I won't glorify them by posting their web site here but I will post a counter-site:

www.godlovesfags.com

Unfortunately it's a bit dated.

Re:Unfortunately they do (2)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250180)

I thought they'd banned advertising smoking?

Unless God says so Re:Unfortunately they do (3, Funny)

davidwr (791652) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250220)

After reading about the pillar of fire by night and a pillar of smoke by day, I think there may be some truth to this web site's name.

A medical question:
If each cigarette you smoke takes 5 minutes off of your life, but you are an eternal being, how does that work?

Re:I don't think they care (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250304)

Obviously you've never heard about battletoadsraids, pizzabombing or faxing black pages in loops and assorted misschief.

Re:I don't think they care (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250354)

I don't know about that.

Even the WBC is driven by money in some fashion. They have to have money to produce propoganda, advertise their presence, etc.

If the group "Anonymous" is as powerful as they are said to be, they very well may be able to negatively affect the cash available to WBC. Think credit records, etc.

I wish Anonymous the best on this one!

"An anonymous reader writes" (5, Funny)

gcnaddict (841664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250064)

I smell a conflict of interest.

Re:"An anonymous reader writes" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250106)

We smell many things.

Re:"An anonymous reader writes" (1)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250124)

Sorry, that was me

OT: Sig (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250172)

If I don't think about it, is the rest of your signature any less true?

Re:OT: Sig (1)

Flyerman (1728812) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250254)

It would have no effect on whether it was true or not. That's fairly basic logic.

Re:OT: Sig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250500)

Could you then care to explain it to this Westboro Baptist Church attendant you damn elitist fag?

Re:OT: Sig (1)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250266)

Oh sorry, were you typing something out. I wasn't paying attention since I got distracted while watching porn

Re:"An anonymous reader writes" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250238)

I smell astroturf

Hate meets hate? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250070)

These tactics sound like hate meets hate.

Wouldn't praying for them in a spirit of love work better?

It would either make Phelps & Co. see The Light or at the very least it would annoy the Hell out of them.

Either way society wins.

Re:Hate meets hate? (2)

DCFusor (1763438) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250114)

Nice idea, but details are a problem. Anonymous can't publicly pray for them and stay anon very well, can they?
.

Well, they could pray for them on their own hacked website, perhaps.

Re:Hate meets hate? (0, Flamebait)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250182)

Pray for them?
So your solution to a bunch of sky wizard fanatics is to implore their own sky wizard to get them to stop?

Why not ask the easter bunny for peace in the middle east?

Re:Hate meets hate? (5, Funny)

Foobar of Borg (690622) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250224)

Why not ask the easter bunny for peace in the middle east?

How do you think all these anti-government protests in the middle east got started? I definitely see the easter bunny's paws in this one!

Re:Hate meets hate? (1)

morari (1080535) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250294)

No, love doesn't work. If history has taught us anything, love doesn't work for or against Christianity...

Re:Hate meets hate? (0)

Isaac-1 (233099) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250336)

The problem is all speech can be called hate speech, so where to we draw the line? Don't get me wrong, I don't like this group, but feel they have the right to free speech, I don't feel they have the right to disrupt others while they practice free speech though.

Re:Hate meets hate? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250422)

And here-in lies one of the problems of the Constitution. Its all about rights, but nothing about responsibilities.

Bit dramatic.. (1)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250080)

Heart's in the right place and all, but I don't know that dramatic pronouncements from Anonymous nerds on the internet is going to scare a bunch of hillbilly douchebags like WBC. "vicious retaliatory arm".. seriously? I think they can narrow down Anonymous a bit as either being 12, or having the mentality of a 12 year old.

Even so Re:Bit dramatic.. (1, Flamebait)

davidwr (791652) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250116)

I think they can narrow down Anonymous a bit as either being 12, or having the mentality of a 12 year old.

That being said they are still at least twice as mature as the group they are protesting.

Re:Even so Re:Bit dramatic.. (2)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250246)

When two groups of retards attack each other, no one wins...

Re:Even so Re:Bit dramatic.. (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250342)

Sure, they keep each other busy enough that the rest of us can get on with our lives.

Re:Bit dramatic.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250120)

or having the mentality of a 12 year old.

It's worse than we thought! That's like 85% of the internet!

The Internet has grown up a bit Re:Bit dramatic.. (5, Insightful)

davidwr (791652) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250142)

The average mental age on the Internet is at least 13 and the 85th percentile is at least 15.

Re:Bit dramatic.. (4, Insightful)

DurendalMac (736637) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250392)

Exactly. It seems that the WIkileaks coverage has inflated someone's head to grotesque proportions. Anonymous isn't an "advocate of the people" or "the voice of free speech". Quite the contrary. Anonymous has fucked around with largely random people for years and is a poster boy for the abuse of free speech, quite possibly engaging in activities that will make politicians call for further limitations to free speech. Anonymous is...well, Anonymous. They're a huge group of people who spend too much time on the internet and have engaged in a wide variety of activities, from protesting Scientology to DDoSing Wikileaks to a multitude of lower-profile activities, like screwing people over the internet as hard as possible just for the lulz. And "super-consciousness"? Gimme a fucking break.

At LEAST it's better... (2)

Bananatree3 (872975) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250092)

Tactically, Westboro is a bit better target than just saying "hey! let's DDOS Amazon.com!"

Do I condone all their techniques? No. But it seems they've come to realize multi-billion dollar corporations are a bit too big to attack for them. Not that I pity Westboro at all (hypocritical demon warshipers)...

Seriously? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250100)

"Anonymous is now recognised as a serious force to be taken seriously..."

C'mon, "a serious force to be taken seriously?" Who wrote that?

Ohhh the irony... (5, Insightful)

j4ckknife (1222282) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250108)

Is there anything ironic about the self-appointed "voice of free speech" trying to bully an admittedly annoying and vocal cult into silence?

Re:Ohhh the irony... (5, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250234)

Yes, it's extremely ironic. The fact of the matter is that most activists usually reveal themselves to be wannabe-autocrats. I can understand attacking PayPal or Visa websites over the Wikileaks thing, but trying to silence Phelps and his gang of attention whores demonstrates that, at the core, they have that unique activist capacity for not really getting the underlying point of freedoms.

Re:Ohhh the irony... (4, Insightful)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250252)

Most people really only like free speech that does not offend them. They tend to claim some sort of right to not be offended or something like that, too.

Re:Ohhh the irony... (2)

sjames (1099) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250494)

There will always be a dividing line to be found somewhere. I'm all for free speech, but do find protesting at a funeral to be over the line.

Re:Ohhh the irony... (3, Interesting)

anagama (611277) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250328)

Absolutely there is some irony and there is an understanding of this expressed in Anonymous' letter, but it seems pretty thin (though long winded), and boils down to something like, "we are proponents of free speech, but we don't like the ideas you espouse or the way you express them, so we oppose _your_ speech."

Anonymous should review the ACLU's defense of Nazis in the Skokie case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie [wikipedia.org]

For freedom of speech to work, unsavory speech must be protected. Indeed, it is bottling up unsavory speech, that makes it so dangerous.

Anyway, this is Anonymous' reason not protecting speech:

Being such aggressive proponents for the Freedom of Speech & Freedom of Information as we are, we have hitherto allowed you to continue preaching your benighted gospel of hatred and your theatrical exhibitions of, not only your fascist views, but your utter lack of Christ-like attributes. You have condemned the men and women who serve, fight, and perish in the armed forces of your nation; you have prayed for and celebrated the deaths of young children, who are without fault; you have stood outside the United States National Holocaust Museum, condemning the men, women, and children who, despite their innocence, were annihilated by a tyrannical embodiment of fascism and unsubstantiated repugnance. Rather than allowing the deceased some degree of peace and respect, you instead choose to torment, harass, and assault those who grieve.
Your demonstrations and your unrelenting cascade of disparaging slurs, unfounded judgments, and prejudicial innuendos, which apparently apply to every individual numbered amongst the race of Man - except for yourselves - has frequently crossed the line which separates Freedom of Speech from deliberately utilizing the same tactics and methods of intimidation and mental & emotional abuse that have been previously exploited and employed by tyrants and dictators, fascists and terrorist organizations throughout history.

The key phrase (0, Troll)

jmorris42 (1458) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250498)

> ...we have hitherto allowed you to continue preaching...

And with those words we have the rest of the story. They claim the authority to "allow" others to speak. In other words they are our master and will decide who is allowed to speak and are willing to use force to enforce their edicts. Scratch a progressive, find a fascist. Every. Time.

I will not tolerate your intolerance! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250406)

That is all.

Re:Ohhh the irony... (5, Informative)

TexVex (669445) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250410)

trying to bully an admittedly annoying and vocal cult into silence?

Your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose. What those people do is not just speech. They take deliberate offensive action targeted at specific people and do them harm. They are bullies, and Anon are bullies, and is bullying a bully ironic? I don't see how.

Re:Ohhh the irony... (4, Insightful)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250432)

Not only are Anonymous tactics morally repulsive (you cannot advocate openness and free speech while staying hidden and engaging in selective censorship) but they don't work. This Westboro "church" is a tiny (just one family I believe) group of fringe fanatics that everybody laughs at. Rather than silencing them, Anonymous is just giving them free publicity they don't deserve.

Good choice of targets (1)

electron sponge (1758814) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250110)

These inbred wackos are a great target for derision, but what exactly does Anonymous propose to do to them? A DDoS? An email hack? Does the Phelps clan have a website? If they do, does anyone actually go there? Do they even use email? I think unless they go out to the sites where these troglodytes are harassing grieving families and directly confront them, they're wasting their time.

Re:Good choice of targets (1)

gknoy (899301) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250186)

The Anonymous attacks on the church of Scientology showed that many of them are willing to stand on the street with signs.

Re:Good choice of targets (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250280)

They could do what they did to Scientology. Wear masks and hold up signs about how god does not exist, he likes homosexuals or all hail xenu.

Re:Good choice of targets (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250384)

I can't imagine for the life of me why you don't think they would do that (again). Anon hasn't been shy about showing up in the real world, albeit in far less than their "full" internet strength.

I guess I could just say that it's likely Guy Fawkes will be showing up at future WBC events.

Re:Good choice of targets (1)

Anachragnome (1008495) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250476)

"Do they even use email?"

Emails can be the end of anyone if they are stupid enough to incriminate themselves. If it is found that emails outline a concerted, targeted effort on the part of the Westboro Baptist Church with the goal of committing a civil rights violation against any one person, then conspiracy charges and RICO can be applied.

From Wikipedia:

"Pro-life activists
RICO laws were successfully cited in NOW v. Scheidler, 510 U.S. 249, 114 S. Ct. 798, 127 L.Ed. 2d 99 (1994), a suit in which certain parties, including the National Organization for Women, sought damages and an injunction against pro-life activists who physically block access to abortion clinics. The Court held that a RICO enterprise does not need an economic motive, and that the Pro-Life Action Network could therefore qualify as a RICO enterprise. The Court remanded for consideration of whether PLAN committed the requisite acts in a pattern of racketeering activity."

Granted, the emails themselves wouldn't stand a chance in court if they were first acquired illegally by Anonymous (I hope they realize this...), but may be sufficient to start further inquiry into these thugs.

There's an upside... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250118)

Whoever loses, we win.

Oh my (1)

Aeyan (979644) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250136)

A serious force to be taken seriously? It almost sounds like.... the internet is serious business. ...I hate myself for spending too much time on the internet, now.

Re:Oh my (1)

Bobfrankly1 (1043848) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250472)

A serious force to be taken seriously? It almost sounds like.... the internet is serious business. ...I hate myself for spending too much time on the internet, now.

Yes, it's all YOUR fault.

Let's see... (1)

Trivial Solutions (1724416) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250146)

Hey God, what's anonymous' password?

God says...
anticipate Take couldest derived supposing multitudes
spreadest torpor fingers rhetoric renderest shameful handkerchief
hap troop comforted bid

This is idiotic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250160)

Why the hell do they think it's a good idea to make virtual martyrs out of such a vile hate-filled group and give them free publicity? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

kind of a boring target, isn't it? (3, Insightful)

Trepidity (597) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250164)

The Westboro Baptist Church fills an odd role where they're so extreme and, possibly more problematically, rude, that they have very little support. Will damaging them in some way actually change anything? Even people way on the right already dissociate themselves from them, and they have basically no actual influence on anything.

It's sort of the same with Actual Nazis imo. I'm worried about a certain kind of intolerant right-wing strain in the U.S., but I think Westboro types and swastika-flag-waving types are mostly distractions and not where the real problems lie; the right-wingers who aren't actively shooting themselves in the foot like those two groups do are bigger problems.

It'd go the other way too. Say you were a conservative worried about leftism in the U.S. You could attack the Communist Party USA, but would that be a good use of your time? They're a sideshow.

Do not fall for the trolling (4, Insightful)

Kaboom13 (235759) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250190)

WestBoro Baptist Church is just a media whore stirring up trouble to provoke a reaction. Whoever claims to speak for anonymous is the same. "anonymous" is just a group of people, in the loosest sense of the term, with no leadership or agenda. You can not declare a warning from something you have no control over. As the wikileaks DDOS attacks have shown us, most of them barely even qualify as script kiddies, and are ridiculously easy to catch. There are some that know enough to do SQL injection attacks, or brute force passwords (or use the built in password reset) but super hackers they are not. The mainstream media is laughable in how clueless they are about it. They can't seem to understand that the internet makes it possible to have a group with common goals who is coordinated through group-think instead of a firm leadership. There is no monolithic entity, no membership, no initiation ritual or brotherhood. It's a loose group whose actions are dictated by a herd mentality.

Re:Do not fall for the trolling (1)

Troll-Under-D'Bridge (1782952) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250440)

There is no monolithic entity, no membership, no initiation ritual or brotherhood. It's a loose group whose actions are dictated by a herd mentality.

Kind of reminds you of a certain site [alexa.com] we visit now and then (well, except maybe for the membership part). Or maybe you're talking of something else [wikipedia.org] ?

Hypocritical? (2)

Rivalz (1431453) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250192)

Not that I really care one way or the other, but shouldn't people who are "The Voice of Free Speech" not really make threats upon other groups use of free speech?
I didn't take the time to look into any of their claims against whoever they are accusing of whatever today.

Y'Know (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250198)

You know, as much as I completely agree with a lot of what "Anonymous" is against (though not the methods, for the most part), is it necessary that they talk like some fucking robot from a 1950s sci-fi flick? They sound like fucking morons.

Sounds like a Southpark episode (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250208)

'nuff said.

Anon is not so anon anymore (1)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250210)

Hmm, I think the ego of people calling themselves anonymous have gotten to their head. Seriously, when did they start talking so damn much? Yes, I think the idea behind them is very cool, but all this talking is pretty dumb. Stay anonymous, do what you are going to do, and stop trying to bully your way around. They sound like a bunch of teens trying to act tough now.

How about instead of talking shit, just go do it. That's right, talking trash gets you noticed and put in headlines. If they want to truly be anonymous, maybe they should shut up about their plans, because now whoever gets busted from what they to do this website is going to get an even harsher penalty because of how planned this is. It has left the, "Oh, I am bored and I support this cause" to "Look at me! I am the almighty anonymous. Bow before me or else I will smite you." If you don't like somebody, just go tear their world apart. Leave your ego at the door and do it instead and trying to act all tough, because if you get pinched, since you opened your big fat mouth, even if it was 1 single teen that was told about it, every person that gets pinched is going to get hit so much harder since everybody knows who they want to go after now.

Good job guys. Way to wave that red flag around and then just sit there.

WE ARE ANONYMOUS (4, Insightful)

Dhalka226 (559740) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250232)

WE ARE ANONYMOUS, VOICE OF FREE SPEECH. OBEY US OR BE SILENCED.

Only twats as self-important as they obviously are could write this sort of thing and not even realize what they're saying. Or perhaps they do realize and just think that they're so great that their hypocrisy doesn't matter. I believe we've seen this sort of thing in history before. It starts with a religion and ends with lots of dead people. But hey, maybe this time it will be awesome.

Re:WE ARE ANONYMOUS (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250290)

Maybe they should swap their Guy Fawkes masks for Darth Vader ones.

Re:WE ARE ANONYMOUS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250456)

or you might pull your head out of your ass and realize it's all for the lulz

GodHatesFags.com (2)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250242)

Wow! Just wow! Anyone with enough homophobia to register a domain like that, and put up that website. Really needs to be taken to a bath house, and left there for a couple of days.

Real Anonymous activists stick to big targets (1)

jbeach (852844) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250292)

I get that Anonymous has presented itself as a collective direction that any one person can join. But I doubt this is an initiative of their core members. It seems off the reservation and out of the plan. Phelps is a complete ass doing his best to spread hate and stupidity; but he's not oppressing the poor or breaking the law.

Banks, corporations and oppressive governments are far more worthy targets. This is random time-wasting crap. I doubt it's a false-flag, 'cause there's no way an attack on Phelps would inspire any sympathy from anyone; but I do expect it's a teenager wanting to be a bad ass and not bothering to apply intellect towards finding more important targets.

Re: Real Anonymous activists stick to big targets (2)

Nidi62 (1525137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250386)

Or it's an image thing. Remember, Anonymous has had several attacks against major US corporations attributed to them. Their presentation in the media is certainly not favorable to Anonymous. Now, where does Westboro "church "protest at? The funerals of dead soldiers, dishonoring them and pissing off their families, basically pissing off anyone who's ever known a soldier or just supports the soldiers. So, what better way to get back something of a favorable reputation than to go after people that pretty much everyone agrees needs to shut up and go away?

Westboro Baptist Church and lawsuits (5, Informative)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250296)

The Westboro Baptist Church lives off suing people for infringing on their right to free speech, assembly, etc. If the IRC and 4chan douche bags attack them, then WBC isn't going to have anyone to sue, but will try and waste capital in their attempt.

And yes, they have computers, website, businesses associated with them, so there is crap for anonymous to attack.

Correction (0, Troll)

HomelessInLaJolla (1026842) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250298)

God does not hate. Every day that a homosexual wakes up they have been forgiven.

If, however, they choose to cling to their homosexuality--which always has a basis in doing what they want to do to get something--then they remain in sin and are subject to the whims of the devil. Over time the homosexual is no different than women. At first they enjoy sex, then they learn that they are able to use sex to get what they want, then they find that they get stuck in situations where they no longer wish to have sex with someone (or feel obligated to be directed to have sex with someone else), but they need to continue to do it because their director/partner has significant control over their social and financial lives. Homosexuals are no different. At some point in their homosexuality they discover that they do not really want to do this anymore but to refuse would create enormous social and financial problems, as well as having the gossip of "used to be" follow them.

The only solution is truly the path of God.

Why do bad things happen to good people? For the same reason why bad things happen to bad people. Because they insist on sinning and, once in sin, the devil enjoys doing it to you. Not that the path of God will keep you from all of the irritations and problems which are naturally part of this world--but the path of God is the only way to ensure that you will survive it.

God does not hate but, if you wish to actually live without sin and observe the path of God, then observe that God created them male and female.

Re:Correction (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250340)

Wow. They have the internet in caves now?

Is it too much to hope for... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250302)

Is it too much to hope for for this to end up like the "Gingham Dog and the Calico Cat" story? It would be so nice to be rid of both cabals of sociopathic jackasses.

I don't normally condone vigilantism.... (5, Funny)

GeneralEmergency (240687) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250308)

...and I cherish the First Amendment above all the others.... ...but just this once....I'm gonna be spending all my time looking in another direction.

And -Damn you to Hell- Fred Phelps, and your inbred collection of Olympic class haters, for pushing me to this hypocrisy.

Re:I don't normally condone vigilantism.... (1)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250402)

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." It's nice to hear freedom-hating bigots come out and admit that they're hypocrites once in a while.

At some point they might just DDoS themselves (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250310)

At what point will they realize that they are a threat, a nuisance, and an extragovernmental tyranny, and implode in a DDoS of self-awareness?

And will they have the power to do it by then?

How to Defeat Westboro (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250314)

Westboro is an attention-whoring organization. Attacking them seems somewhat counter-productive.

I can't say I approve of vigilante justice... (1)

asdf7890 (1518587) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250316)

I can't say I approve of vigilante justice, but in this case I could most certainly consider making an exception.

God Hates Fags? (1, Funny)

JSG (82708) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250320)

Over here (UKoGB) the anti smoking lobby is pretty strong but even they don't invoke a deity in support.

Sounds catchy - even if I am a confirmed tabber.

Cheers
Jon

Re:God Hates Fags? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250434)

hahahah, nice

I don't see... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250334)

I don't see why Slashdot would promote this kind of behavior.

Part of living in a free and open society is that although a majority of people will keep to themselves and exercise their rights in a way that's respectful of others, a minority of people are loudmouthed idiots.

While I think the views held by these people are deplorable, we should all support their right to say these things without fear of intimidation, because one day we might find that we hold publicly unpopular views and don't want to be similarly silenced. And, while their arguments for doing things like protesting at funerals are terrible compared with the suffering they must cause some families, we have a system for dealing with these rights issues, and their case is currently before the Supreme Court.

We don't have a perfect system, but we do have a good system. Intimidating others away from public speech is a dangerous road. As to the truly offensive and dangerous behavior, our legal system is dealing with it. Let our system work. There's no need to fuck with these people.

Media, this is your fault (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250344)

If the media would just stop covering the WBC, they'd have absolutely no leg to stand on. Its a shame they're just so funny.

Re:Media, this is your fault (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250378)

The problem is slow news days. The temptation, when little enough is happening that the average TV viewer is going to give a damn about, to give the Phelps Gang airtime is too great. It's either the latest Phelps cemetery protest or a story on Fluppy the Three-Legged Dog saving his owners from eating bad wieners. Put yourself in the news department's shoes for a moment.

Streisand effect (3, Interesting)

Kjella (173770) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250358)

Pardon me for saying so, but why in hell would Anonymous give PR to this weird little cult? Apart from being grossly disgusting they seem fairly few and harmless and their sole power is the outraged press they garner.

They're the kind of religious nuts you can't reason with because they see everything as proof they are right. Hell, isn't this the same creeps that wanted to show up in the funeral of that 9yo girl that got shot? I think these people are going for martyrdom and hoping someone will open fire on them. I'd be tempted.

They Do It for the Lawsuit Settlements (5, Informative)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250366)

Phelps and his gang of Christianist assholes are in the business of provoking angry responses to their hellish displays that Phelps' gang will claim in court violated their rights or damaged them. To blackmail their targets, usually municipalities with the ability to pay, into settling the lawsuit and paying off Phelps rather than pay the extensive legal fees and possibly damages. That's why Phelps' gang is pumped full of lawyers trained at "Liberty" "University", the Christian crusade madrassa.

In this fight, it's Anonymous that's on the side of the angels.

Re:They Do It for the Lawsuit Settlements (5, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250424)

The Phelps Gang tests the extreme end of free speech. I despise them with all my being, but if it came to push and shove and I had to either choose whether Phelps and his gang of vile hatemongers or Anonymous lived or died, I'm afraid I'd stand on the side of Phelps. Anonymous is attacking Phelps' right to freely express his views, no matter how noxious. Anonymous is wrong on this one, and should be ashamed of themselves, if they weren't, of course, a bunch of halfwitted scriptkiddies with as much of a hard-on for getting attention from the press as Phelps and Co.

I have lost any and all respect for Anonymous (1)

sigzero (914876) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250372)

Oh wait...someone has different moral values than you (even if their moral values suck).

So much for WBC's nightly Hamster Dance (1)

gatkinso (15975) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250414)

I don't think these folks have much exposure to the net, but their email WOULD be fascinating to a psychologist I am sure,

Must be because (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35250420)

OP is a fag

thanks but no thanks (1)

binaryseraph (955557) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250430)

The Voice of Free Speech & the Advocate of the People

I am more than capable of fighting for my own advocacy, thank you. That being said- Westboro will get NO sympathy from me.

Isn't it ironic? (2)

gujo-odori (473191) | more than 3 years ago | (#35250492)

Isn't it ironic that "The Voice of Free Speech" would tell another group that if they don't shut up, they will have their free speech DDOSed off the face of the earth?

C'mon, Anonymous, I don't like the tactics of the Westboro people any better than you do, but you either believe in free speech or you don't. If you don't, and you want to go ahead and DDOS them, fine, but let's be consistent.

Of course, DDOSing them won't stop them from shoving up at funerals and inflicting pain on innocent, grieving families. It might make you feel like you're Doing Something, but you won't be, really.

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