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MacBook Pro Specs Leaked, iPad Event March 2

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the busy-week-for-apple dept.

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Stoobalou updates us on the various Apple rumors, saying, "Snaps of Apple's imminent update to the MacBook Pro range have been leaked, confirming most of the rumors doing the rounds." Light Peak looks like it will be called Thunderbolt. The 13" will feature 2.3ghz Dual Core i5s and 4 gigs of RAM. In addition to the MacBook Pro rumors, the iPad update rumors have been confirmed, with invitations going out to the formal announcement on March 2.

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hmm (4, Insightful)

rainmouse (1784278) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291806)

It seems everything Apple is working on is leaked and it really is becomming a tiresome marketting ploy, perhaps moreso because it seems to work.

Re:hmm (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291822)

But...but...I need to know about everything Apple!!!

Oooooh. I just heard that Steve Jobs had a bowel movement! zOMG!!!!!1111eleventyone

Re:hmm (2, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291910)

But...but...I need to know about everything Apple!!!

Oooooh. I just heard that Steve Jobs had a bowel movement! zOMG!!!!!1111eleventyone

I'm so sick of the Apple news posted around here! So I'm gonna keep bitching about it over and over again on every Apple thread so this ad supported site knows just how annoyed I am! When Apple stories often reach 200+ comments, they'll surely back down one day!

Re:hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292116)

We're annoying you with Apple news?

Glad to oblige.

Perhaps one day you will learn to filter out Apple news.

Re:hmm (0)

Sechr Nibw (1278786) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292268)

That "whooshing" sound over your head is the /sarcasm tag that was implied in the GP.

Re:hmm (2)

michelcolman (1208008) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292504)

Oooooh. I just heard that Steve Jobs had a bowel movement! zOMG!!!!!1111eleventyone

That's GREAT news! I'm buying Apple stock right now.

Re:hmm (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291896)

I bet it's some marketing ploy from Apple also when we have photos of sick Steve Jobs in front of a cancer treatment facility.

It's also a marketing ploy when all the news site can't shut up about a smaller 6 inch iPad, and a "cloud iPhone that's half the size of iPhone" knowing full well it's bullshit.

And it's marketing ploy when random outlets report that iPad 2 will be late for months because of production issues.

Or maybe it's just that everyone can't stop reading about Apple, and therefore there's huge pressure for a leak to occur.

The reason leaks don't occur in Oracle or Computer Associates is, no one gives a damn. And leaks do occur at Microsoft and Adobe too, but again, no one gives a damn.

Re:hmm (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292322)

The reason leaks don't occur in Oracle or Computer Associates is, no one gives a damn. And leaks do occur at Microsoft and Adobe too, but again, no one gives a damn.

Only Mozilla leaks - and then only memory.

Re:hmm (-1, Flamebait)

atrain728 (1835698) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292338)

What are the chances that those photos will be filtered from search results on the next update of iOS?

Re:hmm (0, Redundant)

dunezone (899268) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291904)

You know what was an awesome leak? The Doom 3 alpha or the Half-Life 2 source release, two products we were not suppose to have hands on time with.

This is a freaking list of specs of a laptop that doesn't look that powerful and will cost an arm and a leg. Now the iPad update will probably have some feature that should have been released with the first generation but for whatever reason *cough* BUT TO MAKE PEOPLE BUY IT AGAIN *cough* was not included.

Everything is a leak today no matter how silly the information being leaked is.

Re:hmm (1)

mini me (132455) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292152)

Now the iPad update will probably have some feature that should have been released with the first generation but for whatever reason *cough* BUT TO MAKE PEOPLE BUY IT AGAIN *cough* was not included.

There is only so much time in the day to bring a product to market. I get what you are saying, but I fully understand why lots of companies, Apple included, leave out features that seem like they should be there from day one. If they had delayed the iPad 1 until every last obvious feature was complete, we would just be hearing about it for the first time come March.

Re:hmm (5, Insightful)

wandazulu (265281) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291916)

What's interesting is that it seems Apple's product announcements are the only remaining tech that gets everyone talking, whether pro or against, people do talk about it. Dell might have released half a dozen new systems last week, but who'd know? I was in a tmobile store the other day and saw a number of Android-based handsets that I hadn't heard of. And even though I consider myself a geek, I have very little idea what the Xoom is, other than a Motorola tablet, and more to the point, why should I care?

I'm not saying that we should care about Apple product announcements, but Apple seems to be the only ones who can generate any significant buzz about whatever it is they're announcing.

Re:hmm (5, Insightful)

Dzimas (547818) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292076)

Apple's marketing strategy is brilliant. Unlike other companies, they don't release products with incomprehensible names like the KDH-4001. They don't have to address a myriad of OS compatibility issues (for example, A4-based devices are eligible for iOS updates, the older ones aren't). They have streamlined product lines -- one iPad, one iPod Touch, one Apple TV. By reducing choice, they reduce buyer confusion and uncertainty. A side-effect of this zen marketing approach is that it's easy for the press to write about their products. When a new iPad is introduced, we know ahead of time what to expect, with the addition of a few easy-to-explain doodads (camera! Another camera! Faster! Thinner!). That makes for good copy and makes technophobic users feel somewhat comfortable.

Re:hmm (1)

Rectal Prolapse (32159) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292342)

I have a theory that this is why the Japanese automakers were so successful in North America too.

Re:hmm (-1)

Antisyzygy (1495469) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292508)

Another reason people are so obsessed with them is that they have made themselves become status symbols by their cost and appearance. If you fork out 2000 for a laptop people look at you like you have money. Also, people are under the impression that increased cost means better performance. You can get a better equipped laptop for 500-1000 cheaper than Apple provides. Another thing people like is the pretty aluminum chassis and nice transitions in the OS. They get dazzled by it, thinking its a higher quality machine than it really is. Windows 7 sort of learned that lesson (though they havent got their yet) and HP is making aluminum / magnesium chassis now. I like the Apple OS from a functional standpoint, since it is in fact Unix based and is optimized for battery and cpu/ram efficiency, but beyond that the rest is eye-candy which apparently every idiot and their dog buy into these days.

Re:hmm (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292128)

What's interesting is that it seems Apple's product announcements are the only remaining tech that gets everyone talking, whether pro or against, people do talk about it. Dell might have released half a dozen new systems last week, but who'd know? I was in a tmobile store the other day and saw a number of Android-based handsets that I hadn't heard of. And even though I consider myself a geek, I have very little idea what the Xoom is, other than a Motorola tablet, and more to the point, why should I care?

I'm not saying that we should care about Apple product announcements, but Apple seems to be the only ones who can generate any significant buzz about whatever it is they're announcing.

Slashdot, as well as many other ad-supported tech news sites, make money from fanboyism. The people who truely dislike Apple news and products aren't doing themselves any favors by bitchbitchbitching.

Re:hmm (5, Insightful)

JustinOpinion (1246824) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292216)

I'm not saying that we should care about Apple product announcements, but Apple seems to be the only ones who can generate any significant buzz about whatever it is they're announcing.

The hype can get out of hand, but I think Apple more or less earns this exposure. The reason is Apple is one of the only companies that really puts effort into design.

Now, I say this despite not being much of a consumer of Apple products. My desktops (work and home) run Linux, though my laptop is a (4-year-old) Macbook Pro. But even though I have many reasons I don't like Apple products (lockin, etc.), I recognize the serious effort and skill they put into designing not just a product, but a successful user experience.

One of the reasons journalists and bloggers and design professionals and design enthusiasts all watch Apple closely is that they are one of the only companies that actually carries a design through to its full conclusion. Other manufacturers can, and do, come up with innovative ideas and the beginnings of a good design, but they all ultimately compromise on that design (usually for money). Think of something as simple as putting all those "Optimized for Windows" and "Intel inside" stickers on a laptop: I suspect those were not there in the original artist renderings; they are a corruption of the design. The crapware that is loaded is another corruption. Trying to get the price down to competitive levels requires all kinds of compromises in terms of build details, quality, etc. Edges don't meet quite flush because of some engineering or price constraint (not because it makes the device more pleasing to the user). UI elements are not very responsive because it would have taken too long to optimize that code. They don't worry about there being a subtle (but satisfying) 'click' when plugging-in a cable. And so on. (Note that I'm using "design" as shorthand for "design of the user experience"... obviously these companies have successfully engineered/designed products for a certain constraint-set.)

Apple makes its fair share of gaffes, and it's not obvious that all of their design choices are worth the premium costs. (Again, I mostly don't buy their stuff.) But as far as test cases to ponder, their products are the best around. One can really evaluate the pros and cons of a touch interface now that Apple put serious effort into designing a UI that is touch-centric (previously most touch interfaces were either crappy overlays on top of mousing UI (e.g. Windows tablets) or just terrible to begin win (e.g. a kiosk touch-UI)...).

So, in short, by having a focused vision and seeing it through to the end, they create products that are not ugly mixtures of compromises (where when things don't work you're left wondering if it's because it was a bad idea or poorly executed); their products are consistent and cohesive (so that you can evaluate a given design choice, and copy/improve/ignore it as needed in designing other products). Even if you don't like (and don't buy) their stuff, it's worth watching what they produce.

Re:hmm (1)

dch24 (904899) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292518)

If this refresh of the Macbook Pro does not include a quad-core processor as an option, I won't buy it.

- Looking for a laptop

Re:hmm (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292644)

Why in the world would you need a quad-core processor in a laptop? Games won't run any faster than with 2 cores. I seriously doubt you're running cpu intensive calculations or simulations (if you are, you should set up a linux box and ssh in to run them). The only reasonable reason I can come up with is for video editing, and I seriously doubt the extra 2 cores provides much of a benefit.

Re:hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292580)

Design?

You mean looks. Some of the egonomics and controls on Apple products are down right awlful and some of the UI aspects would make Edward Tufte cringe.

And other firms puts a lot, and I mean a lot into design, for functionality (like a removable battery compartment). Not looks, and that's where Apple excels.

Re:hmm (2, Informative)

Sepultura (150245) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292612)

Apple makes its fair share of gaffes, and it's not obvious that all of their design choices are worth the premium costs.

While I agree with much of what you say I have to ask: What "premium costs"?

Why are we still hearing this even though it's been shown for YEARS now to be a fallacy - ie. other manufacturers aren't significantly less expensive when comparing similarly spec'd hardware, and often have horrid designs to boot?

Apple is silent, while other talk up nothing. (4, Insightful)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292428)

When Apple talks, it actually means something, unlike the empty promises made my other technology companies.

It's because Apple doesn't announce products months or years before they are released. They only announce them when they are sure they'll have a product to ship. All you hear from other companies is hyped up initial announcements followed by delays and retracted features. From Apple you hear about new products that will actually ship as promised. It's not because Apple is better at shipping quality products on schedule (though they are). It's because they don't go on blabbing about every new technology they have in the works years before a working prototype has even seen the light of day.

Re:hmm (1)

cyfer2000 (548592) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292446)

Xoom?

Re:hmm (2)

ukyoCE (106879) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292516)

Absolutely right.

One of the reasons is probably their comparatively sparse product lineup. I was looking at Sony Vaio laptops, recently, and they have a 10", 11", 12"... everything up to 17" laptops. Apple has 3, 13", 15", and 17". There are a hundred android handsets with every imaginable combination of hardware, but there only 2 iphones, the gsm and cdma ones. When apple changes their product lineup people know what product they're talking about even if they don't own one. It's not "the 12" version of the SXA laptop model", its just "the macbook".

They also (generally) maintain their price point across product revisions, so there's extra interest in when a new launch is going to arrive. Waiting a month might mean significant hardware improvements for the same cost. The Macbook Pro is still $1800, but now you get an extra 2gb of ram, an SSD, a newer CPU, new battery tech, and whatever else they toss in the new model. Or maybe it's a shrug of an upgrade, just a minor cpu update, and you'd rather go ahead and get one now than wait 3 months?

With so few product models and infrequent changes, it makes people more interested than they would otherwise be. Any tech company could probably do this. But they have to be willing to put in the legwork (ie: NDAs, lawyers, and paced product updates) to make it happen.

It's also worth noting how much more impact Apple's launches have when they aren't significantly leaked. That is Apple's goal (or at least Steve Jobs'), so I doubt they regularly leak details on purpose. Remember the bomb Apple dropped on Microsoft when they released updated iPods along with a price drop shortly before the Zune's launch? By keeping it secret up until launch they left Microsoft's head spinning. MS was caught competing with last year's model and prices, rushing to play catchup.

Re:hmm (1)

commodore6502 (1981532) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292012)

>>>leaks seem to work.

The slashvertisements sure work.

(hugs Apple G5) No I'm not upgrading yet! It still works! (pause) What do you mean the latest iTunes and safari require an Intel Mac? Oh crap.

Re:hmm (1)

NekSnappa (803141) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292540)

As unfortunate as it may be. The reason I finally put my G4 luxo lamp iMac out to pasture was the requirements for the iPad.

Re:hmm (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292560)

The slashvertisements sure work.

Yeah, Apple'll make big bucks when the iPad 2 without the retina display goes on sale.

Not fiber? (1)

NotAGoodNickname (1925512) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291814)

I'm very disappointed that Apple chose the copper variant of Light Peak and not the fiber version. You can guess why!

Re:Not fiber? (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291838)

Even more bizarre is the suggestion that Thunderbolt replaces the mini-display port. Just as monitors start to come with mini-display port they switch to a new port type with zero support?

Re:Not fiber? (1)

thomasdz (178114) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291868)

Don't worry... they'll have an adapter / converter cable.... you'll have a Y cable and one part of the Y will be mini-display port and the other part will be LightPeak data transfer

Re:Not fiber? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291908)

What, for $29.95 at the Apple store? I can't wait for the lickable convenience!

Re:Not fiber? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291902)

Even more bizarre is the suggestion that Thunderbolt replaces the mini-display port. Just as monitors start to come with mini-display port they switch to a new port type with zero support?

if i recall... they were also accused of the very same thing with usb on the original iMac in 1998. that really turned out dud decision... lol

Re:Not fiber? (5, Insightful)

keytoe (91531) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292424)

if i recall... they were also accused of the very same thing with usb on the original iMac in 1998. that really turned out dud decision...

I have a box full of various adapters that Apple forces me to buy every time they change display interconnect to the 'next best thing'. Between the computers changing ports and the display manufacturers trying to keep up, the permutations can become large. Those adapters are $25 each from Apple.

On the other hand, I can still plug in the same USB devices I did from 1998.

People have a legitimate gripe here.

Re:Not fiber? (2)

MyCookie (1983480) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291912)

It combines them.

Re:Not fiber? (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291988)

Monitors come with mini displayport? I've not seen any. I've not seen many that come with full-sized displayport and even the Apple ones don't use mini displayport, meaning that, if you buy one of the current generation Apple laptops, it is not possible to plug it into any display without an adaptor. And, of course, none of these adaptors are standard anymore, they're all $20 extra...

Re:Not fiber? (1)

node 3 (115640) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292308)

Apple has only one display, and that display has only a Mini DisplayPort connector.

Well, two if you count the 27" iMac, which can be used as a display, and that too has only MDP.

Re:Not fiber? (1)

JPRelph (519032) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292436)

I've not seen many that come with full-sized displayport and even the Apple ones don't use mini displayport... And, of course, none of these adaptors are standard anymore, they're all $20 extra...

The Apple Cinema Displays *do* use Mini DisplayPort, and it's been officially brought into the standard now, so isn't just an Apple only port. There's also quite a few laptops out there using it, from Dell, Toshiba HP... The Wikipedia page for Mini DisplayPort [wikipedia.org] has a list of a few.

Re:Not fiber? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292596)

I've not seen many that come with full-sized displayport and even the Apple ones don't use mini displayport, meaning that, if you buy one of the current generation Apple laptops, it is not possible to plug it into any display without an adaptor. And, of course, none of these adaptors are standard anymore, they're all $20 extra...

Just to make things clear: Is a cable with a USB plug on one end and a mini-USB plug on the other an "adaptor"?

Re:Not fiber? (1)

itsdapead (734413) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292634)

Monitors come with mini displayport? I've not seen many that come with full-sized displayport and even the Apple ones don't use mini displayport,

Displayport is showing up on lots of monitors (mainly higher end ones) including models from Dell and HP. This dealer [jigsaw24.com] lists 21 models. I have a HP with DisplayPort, and a (passive) MiniDP-to-full DP cable cost me £4.

Re:Not fiber? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291926)

An Apple A Day Keeps the Doctor Away, But Fiber Keeps You Regular?

I know what I find tastier: my RDA of irony.

Re:Not fiber? (1)

dagamer34 (1012833) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291952)

Because fiber cables cost more than copper ones? I doubt USB 3.0 is dead, considering Light Peak is protocol-agnostic, it's just a way to send lots of data over a pipe. It doesn't define what that data is like USB or FireWire is. Nice thing is you should be able to get a port replicator that will have whatever port you want, possibly including USB 3.0.

Good. (1)

crow (16139) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291996)

Copper cables and connectors are cheap. Much cheaper than optical. The advantages of optical would only be used by a very tiny portion of the market.

I also wonder if the copper version carries power like USB does?

Re:Not fiber? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292096)

I'm not... depending on the output from a fiber optic cable, can you expect Joe Sixpack or his 4 year old to not look down the cable?

There is a reason there are signs in a machine room that say, "Do not look down fiber optic cable with remaining eye."

Re:Not fiber? (2)

node 3 (115640) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292332)

Light Peak *is* only copper, right now. Light Peak over fiber is still at least a year off.

My lunch break is almost over.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291824)

Will someone please post some Apple Troll comments?

Come one! Pictures of Gay Pride parades with the rainbow - just like Apple's rainbow logo - coincidence? I think not!

Come on! Apple Trolls are the most entertaining!

Re:My lunch break is almost over.... (0, Troll)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291854)

Will someone please post some Apple Troll comments?

Come one! Pictures of Gay Pride parades with the rainbow - just like Apple's rainbow logo - coincidence? I think not!

Come on! Apple Trolls are the most entertaining!

Sit tight, the Android people will be here soon.

Another Apple Prototype Left in a Bar (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291864)

Details of the new MacBook Pro and iPad become public after an Apple employee left prototypes of the new devices in a San Francisco bar.

Steffann, a bar tender at The Horny Rainbow found the prototypes while cleaning up a puddle of semen, urine, and blood beneath the bar's glory hole.

Need to drop the 13" Pro (3, Insightful)

MyCookie (1983480) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291866)

...and it's features to the non-Pro. I'm not going to pay for a 13" with a 1200x800 screen when it costs me any more than $1000. This one doesn't even have switchable graphics.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291906)

Not to mention an anemic dual core processor when quad core or better should be the norm.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292072)

What the hell is anemic about a dual-core? It's still more than 99% of the population needs.

My main desktop rig is a single core athlon (with 4gb ram) and I have no intention of upgrading anytime soon. My laptop is a 2008 MacBook with a 2.4ghz c2d and 4gb ram, again, I'm not upgrading for at least a few more years.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292146)

My main desktop rig

Oh, god a PC ricer. Those are the only idiots who call their computers "rigs". Let me guess, you have tri-color LED fans to illuminate the case and some gaudy, mass-produced case decal that shows how "original" you are?

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292184)

Nope, I have it a bone-stock, gutted Dell Dimension 2400 case. Thanks for playing.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (1)

radl33t (900691) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292246)

Way to make a non-point. The dual-core will need to be upgraded sooner than the quad core. so "Again" said user would delay upgrading longer. As are your apparent plans. Or right, I forgot we're using your arbitrary definitions of adequate performance.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292330)

Not to mention the fact that the 'mobile' quad core chips from Intel use 45W, while the dual core ones use 18-35W. You may be able to fit one into the 17" MBP without having power and heat problems, but there's no chance of getting one in the 13" model. Are there any 13" laptops with a quad-core processor? If so, I expect that they're quite a bit thicker, or have a very short battery life.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292550)

duh.. you need moar coars to run all those bloated non-native half-interpreted/VM'd 'binaries' out there nowadays.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (1)

binary paladin (684759) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292458)

There are always tradeoffs in the mobile world. Quad core processors use more power, period.

One of these days hardware Nazis will get it that MOST users would rather have more battery life than a quad core processor. MOST users will take more battery life over powerful graphics. Why is this such a difficult concept to grasp?

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291956)

Some people like the 13" models. I have one from the current generation, and it was about $600 cheaper than the next-step-up 15" version.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292502)

You saved a whole $600 dollars on your overpriced shiny? Wow, what a deal... Sign me up for 3!!!

I hate it when I hear the mac fanbois spew stuff like this. You didnt get a good deal, you got RIPPED off.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291958)

If you cared about price and not just image, you wouldn't be considering Apple in the first place.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292376)

I don't know... Some of us like having BSD* on the desktop

*I can't believe it's not unix

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291972)

Where I work, we just dock these into a 24 inch monitor. Seems to work okay imo even though I'd rather be on a PC.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (2, Funny)

AdrianKemp (1988748) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292092)

You might not, but I an 7 other people I know did. Some of us like laptops that actually fit in your lap but still have good specs.

You're right though, apple should drop the model because you don't personally want to buy it.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292356)

that's just it though.. these specs suck

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (2)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292372)

Why did you buy the 13" MBP instead of the 13" MB? His point is that the specs are almost the same, but the MBP costs significantly more.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292288)

Really disappointed in the features of the MacBook Pro. I don't mind a 13" but I do mind a ~$1000 or more price tag on a meager resolution of 1200x800. I literally just today ordered a 14" (with a better resolution naturally) lenovo ideapad with a stand-alone graphics card (mbpro has integrated intel), the i5 480m (considerably faster than the MBPro i5), it has the macbook style keyboard, 5hrs of battery life, weighs less than 4 pounds, is less than an inch thick, and cost me just under $650 free shipping plus tax. I do a lot of music work and perform live at shows and parties with my laptop and many other peripherals, so 4 usb ports helps too. It's got more HDD space and its memory is easily upgradable to 8gb. It's really disappointing that what is considered the music and art industry choice of computer is so far below par of current laptops and so far above standard price.

Re:Need to drop the 13" Pro (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292450)

Err, the MBPro has integrated Intel AND a 330M. not the fastest nVidia chip, but, it's certainly NOT a crappy integrated Intel GPU.

Oy (4, Insightful)

tool462 (677306) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291914)

Can we stop calling them leaks and start calling them press releases? Nobody is fooled by this anymore.

Re:Oy (2)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291966)

Can we stop calling them leaks and start calling them press releases? Nobody is fooled by this anymore.

If Gizmodo is willing to pay several grand for a stolen phone, I don't think we can safely assume it's just marketing.

Leaks (1)

Thyamine (531612) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291930)

Of course I read earlier today that there were rumors that it was being pushed back a month or two. Everyone likes rumors because they seem illicit. You weren't supposed to know that! Much sexier than an official announcement of some kind.

Who cares.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291934)

Still Apple proprietary hardware, lack of software, tiny market share an lack of how to implement a vision.

Re:Who cares.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292028)

Still Apple proprietary hardware, lack of software, tiny market share an lack of how to implement a vision.

Speaking of 'lack of vision', you haven't seen the bloody thing, yet. Being righteous doesn't mean being right.

Re:Who cares.... (1)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292452)

Fair enough.

And when, on iPad 2 launch day, Apple also announces that iOS has been GPLed and that you can buy applications for it from sources other than the Apple Store that haven't gone through their pre-approval process first, then he and I will both be righteous enough to accept you're right.

Re:Who cares.... (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292548)

The GPL just means you're getting software that's free, not software that doesn't suck.

I've had my fair share of iOS software crash, but, I don't think I've ever had a single piece of malware, rootkit, or nastygram come from the App Store. On mobile, I don't care, I don't want to tinker. I want the damn thing to work.

power icon? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291950)

Who's the marketing dipstick that decided to demarcate the lightpeakthunderboltwhatever port with the most recognizable symbol for power worldwide, the lightningbolt? Cause that's not gonna be confusing as hell for the general audience.

No USB 3? (3, Funny)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 3 years ago | (#35291970)

"Fuck them. Fuck them up their stupid asses."
- Steve Jobs (may have been Jason Mewes)

Re:No USB 3? (1)

binary paladin (684759) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292484)

It's got Light Peak on it (or Thunderbolt) so that's mostly irrelevant. eSATA, USB3, Firewire 1600 or whatever can all be hooked up through Thunderbolt which is really what makes this release interesting.

Enough Already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35291984)

We get it, Apple = latest and greatest hardware at a premium cost because they're greedy. Got it. In order to compete with Microsoft, and other hardware companies they must charge more. And lastly, we must create hype around our product to rev up initials sales to Geeks, Know-it-alls, and Coffee drinking college students.

They don't need to "leak" the information this way any longer. Folks that understand what they're getting will buy out of necessity. If they're buying due to hype, then
Wintel based companies need to rethink their strategies.

Ok Done Trolling now, Carry on.

In other news (0)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292036)

Specs of the Shenhuan SZ-2 laptop were leaked today, and the launch event for a novelty illuminated party hat is to be held on March 2nd.

I hope now the Apple fanboys can understand how little I care. And this is supposed to be news for nerds? I swear if Jalopnik was run like Slashdot, they'd have stories about delivery vans and soccer mom wagons.

Re:In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292438)

When will whiny bitches like you realize that you can filter the stories.

USB Ports (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292038)

Let me guess... only 2 USB ports, right beside each other again? I hate this design

Re:USB Ports (1)

v1 (525388) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292098)

Let me guess... only 2 USB ports, right beside each other again? I hate this design

Until you try to plug in one of those 2.5" external usb-only drives that comes with the "Y" dual-usb cable for more power, and find the cord is way too short to plug into the left and right USB ports at the same time. (an issue I have ran into repeatedly with my 15" mbp)

"Thunderbolt"? Bleh... (1)

supersloshy (1273442) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292050)

Light Peak looks like it will be called Thunderbolt.

If that seriously is the final name for Light Peak, then I don't quite agree with their decision. What exactly does it have to do with thunder or bolts? "Thunderbolt port" sounds more like innuendo than an actual port you'd use, as opposed to "Light Peak port". At least "Light Peak" gave me a vague idea of how the tech works by the name alone, whereas Thunderbolt just sounds completely unrelated to the technology.

I swear, marketing comes up with the worst names for everything these days. "Xfinity" et al.

Re:"Thunderbolt"? Bleh... (1)

supersloshy (1273442) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292102)

...and now I just read the article and it seems that "Thunderbolt" is just a variant of Light Peak. Not the "final name", hopefully.

Re:"Thunderbolt"? Bleh... (1)

JPRelph (519032) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292130)

...At least "Light Peak" gave me a vague idea of how the tech works by the name alone, whereas Thunderbolt just sounds completely unrelated to the technology.

It's worth bearing in mind that the version of Light Peak that we're likely to see tomorrow, is probably going to be copper-based rather than optical, so Light Peak would probably be just as unrelated as Thunderbolt

Re:"Thunderbolt"? Bleh... (1)

AdrianKemp (1988748) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292170)

In fairness if they are in fact (as it appears) going with a copper variant of light peak, then light peak isn't exactly an appropriate name either.

Re:"Thunderbolt"? Bleh... (2, Funny)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292248)

I'd agree, but I'm trying to find the extinguisher. The firewire port on my MacBook is acting up again.

Re:"Thunderbolt"? Bleh... (1)

mini me (132455) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292314)

Thunderbolt is apparently a copper interconnect, as opposed to Fibre, which the name Light Peak seems to imply. For that reason, I feel they made the right decision not making reference to light and the ties between thunderbolts and lightning does make some sense in this case.

yippie (0)

retech (1228598) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292100)

yet another proprietary protocol. I'm so happy to see the widespread adoption of MDP has worked out. But I know this will satisfy Job's fantasy of one port to rule them all. I just cannot imagine the price tag on those devices that will be covered under that "all". (currently zero)

Re:yippie (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292214)

It is not an attempt to create one port to rule them all; it is an attempt to keep Apple computers separate from every other PC out there. You know, so that people will continue to think that a Mac is something different than a PC.

Re:yippie (1)

binary paladin (684759) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292574)

This is a venture with Intel—and they're not the only two companies involved. Light Peak isn't going to be Apple specific for very long and it's as "proprietary" as USB.

This is all about "1 port to rule them all" and, for the life of me, I cannot figure out why anyone would have a problem with that. I'd like to have 6 ports on my laptop that could be hooked up to ANYTHING without compromise. Suddenly I can hook up a couple more monitors to my laptop or use a high speed external drive or whatever. Or even better, have a hub where, when I put my laptop down at the desk I connect ONE port and all is right in the world.

Re:yippie (1)

v1 (525388) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292230)

yet another proprietary protocol.

I thought Apple was working with Intel on this? At what point between "only one person has it" and "everyone has it" does it cease to be labelled "proprietary"? I thought that happened when it hit 2.

Intel Graphix (1)

WorkingDead (1393377) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292154)

I think the big thing in this release is that they went with Intel graphics on their 13" line. Compared to the current nvidia 320M, the old generation may preform better than the new release. Does this kill gaming on the 13" MBP?

MBA (1)

jimmerz28 (1928616) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292162)

Phew I just ordered a Macbook Air I got scared they were just going to upgrade it within a few weeks. At least it'll be a few months now!

Re:MBA (1)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292286)

Wouldn't it just be cheaper for you to spend a few hours in a gym in order to build up enough muscular stamina so that you can lift a slightly heavier, but cheaper and more functional laptop with those "important extras" like an optical drive & an Ethernet port?

The only reason I can ever come up with where I'd pay a premium price for a Macbook Air is if I was in the terminal phases of some wasting disease and simply couldn't lift anything heavier.

Thunderbolt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292164)

Since when does Apple make Android phones? (HTC Thunderbolt - See Verizon for further Details)

Re:Thunderbolt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292532)

I wish I could, but I'm on a call right now.

In Other Words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35292182)

... those of you who flocked in your hordes to buy iPad 1s at Christmas-time, just 8 weeks ago, are now getting the equivalent of Apple shitting into your mouths with the imminent release of iPad 2.

Fake... (1)

D-OveRMinD (1517467) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292422)

Pix are fake. That is a last gen macbook pro with a display port and a thunderbolt icon badly shopped in its place. Copper Peak will be a standard USB styled plug, and allow USB3/2/1 compatibility.

iPad 2 Out March 2nd! (2, Funny)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292486)

...but if you're a sandaled Free Software Foundation pornmonger who likes passing non-masturbatory time playing retrogame ROMs on emulators, then move along please. Nothing to see here!

Is anyone else utterly bored by these 'leaks'? (0)

martinux (1742570) | more than 3 years ago | (#35292554)

I'm mystified as to why this is new for nerds, it's so terribly uninteresting. I can't see anything other than a (comparatively expensive) moderate upgrade to unremarkable hardware.

Statistics for laptop malfunctions http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_laptop_reliability_1109.pdf [squaretrade.com] indicate that for a higher price you get poorer reliability than many more modestly priced laptops.

I can appreciate that Apple computers are considered to be high quality to the general public but they don't seem to do things any better than a PC with Linux so where's the nerd angle in this?

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