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Cracks Showing in the Libyan Firewall?

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the i-want-to-break-free dept.

Censorship 126

An anonymous reader writes "Most Libya Internet traffic has been blocked since the start of the uprisings on February 17. In what may be the first cracks in the Libya Internet firewall and a sign of the rapidly evolving political situation, Libya Internet traffic climbed over the weekend according to Arbor. Twitter updates also suggest the Internet is now working in eastern cities like Benghazi. Gaddafi may be losing control of his state telecom (Libya Telecom and Technology)?"

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Offtopic: (-1, Offtopic)

andrea.sartori (1603543) | more than 3 years ago | (#35338544)

Prophecy: This thread will become a mac/win flamewar within the 20th comment.

Re:Offtopic: (1, Offtopic)

Stenchwarrior (1335051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35338570)

Or a hosts file war if APK decides to show up.

Re:Offtopic: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35338958)

Or a hosts file war if APK decides to show up.

Or niggers.

Re:Offtopic: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35339064)

There you are! I thought you had stopped posting....I do so love your articles.

"Is there No One Else?" #2... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35340296)

"IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??" - Brad Pitt, as Achilles, Son of Peleus, from the classic film TROY

I say that, because AC's that don't even put up their initials trying to "bust my balls" via ad hominem attacks + off topic trolling replies...? They don't even COUNT!

So, reply to this post of mine here, to an actual "registered 'luser'":

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35340100 [slashdot.org]

Then, we'll go from there! Good luck, you WILL need it... badly!

(However, no AC off topic trolling ad hominem attack responses please... because, after all, lets face it: Those only show you're not confident in yourself, & your off topic trolling!)

APK

P.S.=> Those AC ad hominem attack replies only show your TRUE cowardice, & it shows EVERYONE reading here, who the REAL "anonymous cowards" around here, are... & I am NOT in that number!!! apk

A YouTube "must see" 4U (hahahahahahahahahahahaha) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35344804)

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Is+there+no+one+else%3F [youtube.com]

APK

P.S.=> Pay attention to the end where Achilles says this:

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35340296 [slashdot.org]

("IS ThErE N0 0nE eLsE?1?", 2x)... lmao - a picture says a 1,000 words...! apk

"Is there No One Else?" #1... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35340258)

"IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??" - Brad Pitt, as Achilles, Son of Peleus, from the classic film TROY

I say that, because AC's that don't even put up their initials trying to "bust my balls" via ad hominem attacks + off topic trolling replies...? They don't even COUNT!

So, reply to this post of mine here, to an actual "registered 'luser'":

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35340100 [slashdot.org]

Then, we'll go from there! Good luck, you WILL need it... badly!

(However, no AC off topic trolling responses please... because, after all, lets face it: Those only show you're not confident in yourself, & your off topic trolling!)

APK

P.S.=> Those AC ad hominem attack replies only show your TRUE cowardice, & it shows EVERYONE reading here, who the REAL "anonymous cowards" around here, are... & I am NOT in that number! apk

A YouTube "must see" 4U (hahahahahahahahahahahaha) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35344810)

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Is+there+no+one+else%3F [youtube.com]

APK

P.S.=> Pay attention to the end where Achilles says this:

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35340296 [slashdot.org]

("Is ThErE N0 0nE eLsE?1?", 2x)... lmao - a picture says a 1,000 words...! apk

Here I am (what's your hassle w/ HOSTS?)... apk (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35340100)

See subject-line, because it's in response to this from you:

"Or a hosts file war if APK decides to show up." - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Monday February 28, @11:11AM (#35338570)

Please - DO answer the subject-line' question, above ALL else... ok?

Thank-You!

APK

P.S.=> Then, after you do that (answer my question in my subject-line)?

Heh - I'll just systematically DESTROY you, and your points, easily - with backing facts/evidence as well as my own points...

(That's just because I do that to trolls here, & elsewhere online, easily... "too, Too, TOO EASILY" in fact, everytime & with that EXACT method!)

However, the funniest part of YOUR off-topic reply?

Well - I strongly suspect based on your attempts @ ribbing on me?

That is that I have OBVIOUSLY "gotten the best of you" here before, & you just made another "registered 'luser'" account here to try troll me with!

I mean, please - Your specifically noting me in your reply I am now responding to clues ANYONE into that much, after all, along with other things about you that are EASILY observable...

(Additionally, things like: Your "8 digit registered 'luser'" account # only makes that all the more credible from myself, seeing as its "brand-new" & all that, lol!)... apk

Re:Here I am (what's your hassle w/ HOSTS?)... apk (1)

Stenchwarrior (1335051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35341578)

I have no interest in explaining why hosts file usage (the way you do it, at least) is a bad idea, in much the same way I have no interest in explaining to my 3 year old how the microwave makes her applesauce warm; the capacity to understand isn't there. I made the comment because your initials are synonymous with "moron" and everyone in this forum knows APK is an idiot. You've made quite a name for yourself that way.

Now Pete, go ahead and paste your pre-copied accolades from 1997, use phrases like "ad hominem", "too easy!", "My apps are NOT malware" and then blather on about how no has ever been able to "defeat" you in a battle. Most people realize quickly that you're an egotistical know-it-all (That was sarcasm. I point that out because your ego would see that as a compliment if I didn't) and stop communicating with you because they realize that you have no interest in holding a meaningful debate, not because you've bested them. You may even have valid points at times, but because you're such a dick about trying to prove someone wrong you lose credibility (not that you ever had it) and push people away.

P.S.=> (see what I did there?) my 8 digit account means I at least had the balls to register an account, even if I took 5 years to do it. You never will because it would be a matter of weeks before you were banned, just like you've been banned in all the other forums you troll (lemme guess, it's a compliment to get banned). Go ahead and respond because you'll continue to prove my point about what an ego maniacal and seriously off-balance person you clearly are. This is my final post.

YOU

LOSE

You ran, you FAIL (thank you)... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35341920)

"I have no interest in explaining why hosts file usage" - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Monday February 28, @04:32PM (#35341578)

See subject-line above, & thanks for playing (lol, NOT: You only make ME look good doing that).

APK

P.S.=>

"my 8 digit account means I at least had the balls to register an account, even if I took 5 years to do it. You never will because it would be a matter of weeks before you were banned, just like you've been banned in all the other forums you troll (lemme guess, it's a compliment to get banned)." - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Monday February 28, @04:32PM (#35341578)

Ahem: Bullshit - you've probably made 100's of accounts here, and yes, I have caught others HERE no less, either admitting it, or that others knew it goes on too (Bruce Perens no less)... and anyone can go by 1000 names online, like Lon Chaney (the man of a 1000 faces).

BOTTOM-LINE:

I have NO NEED for a registered account... I can post as much as I like via AC & no "10 posts per 24 hours" stops me, as you can see... so, what's the point? So a troll like YOU can track me easily to troll me?? No, I am not going to play your FOOL's game on that account.

On bans? Hey - you haven't LIVED until you've been banned, because when a forum "bans you"? It's a mark that they cannot "CONTROL" you, or get the best of you on technical points... period!

Now, as far as slashdot OUTRIGHT banning me? WELL, for an AC, I have done PRETTY WELL, as far as moderations upwards @ least... indicating, with proof here no less as is my usual, that you are way, Way, WAY OFF BASE!

Here's 160++ proofs to the contrary to my credit:

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (8):

http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26975021 [slashdot.org]

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HOSTS FILE MOD UP FOR ANDROID MALWARE -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1930156&cid=34713952 [slashdot.org]

http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155172&cid=13007974 [slashdot.org]

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HOSTS MOD UP -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1913212&cid=34576182 [slashdot.org]

HOSTS MOD UP -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907528&cid=34532574 [slashdot.org] (someone copied my older HOSTS posts for it & posted as me, minus bolding & altered title though, giving away they copied me stuff & copy/pasted it, while impersonating me)

HOSTS MOD UP -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1891254&cid=34403798 [slashdot.org]

HOSTS MOD UP -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1905218&cid=34514626 [slashdot.org]

HOSTS MOD UP -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907528&cid=34535412 [slashdot.org]

HOSTS MOD UP vs. HAIRYFEET TOO -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34612834 [slashdot.org]

HOSTS FILE MOD UP FOR ANDROID MALWARE -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1930156&cid=34714024 [slashdot.org]

HOSTS MOD UP with facebook known bad sites blocked -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1924892&cid=34670128 [slashdot.org]

http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1898806&cid=34472826 [slashdot.org]

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And, there you go: "Here endeth the lesson"... apk

Also? Some corrections of your b.s., troll! apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35343514)

"Now Pete, go ahead and paste your pre-copied accolades from 1997" - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Monday February 28, @04:32PM (#35341578)

First of all: They range from 1996-2010 actually!

(Which is MORE THAN A NOBODY LOSER LIKE YOU CAN EVEN BEGIN TO TOUCH OR SAY YOU'VE EVER DONE IN THE ART & SCIENCE OF COMPUTING - period!)

Secondly: They're only a PARTIAL list mind you, & obviously one that "Bugs You to NO END", & that makes sense - You're a "ne'er-do-well", obviously, lol!

However... well, ok then, since you asked:

"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."

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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3 [xtremepccentral.com]

Lastly, lately (this year)?

It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html [sourceforge.net]

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What do I have to say about that much above? I can't say it any better, than this was stated already (from the greatest book of all time, the "tech manual for life" imo):

"But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me." - Corinthians Chapter 10, Verse 10

(And, because I got LUCKY to have been exposed to some really GREAT classmates, professors, & colleagues on the job over time as well)

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"then blather on about how no has ever been able to "defeat" you in a battle" - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Monday February 28, @04:32PM (#35341578)

Well, then show myself, & show us all, where ANYONE has done so without my tearing them apart & coming out on top like I always do!

GO FOR IT!

Put up an evidence of where someone's gotten the better/best of me, totally & technically on things computing then!

(LOL, you can't do it, ANYMORE THAN YOU CAN EVEN PUT UP A SINGLE THING LIKE THAT ONLY PARTIAL LIST ABOVE I DID WHILE YOU PROBABLY WERE NOT EVEN BORN YET! )

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"because you're such a dick about trying to prove someone wrong you lose credibility (not that you ever had it) and push people away." - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Monday February 28, @04:32PM (#35341578)

The ONLY thing that has to do with DICK here, is mine getting constantly sucked by "the likes of you" around here or elsewhere online... lol!

APK

P.S.=> This is just what you get for trying to "troll" your betters, in myself, troll... now, how's my dick taste? You like??

Obviously, it's pretty good!

I say that, since you follow me around apparently, like somekind of sick twisted stalker freak (based on the things you said above, that clues us ALL into THAT MUCH, easily)... apk

StenchWarrior the "ne'er-do-well" RUNS? LMAO! apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35346186)

I made the comment because your initials are synonymous with "moron" and everyone in this forum knows APK is an idiot. You've made quite a name for yourself that way" - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Monday February 28, @04:32PM (#35341578)

Funny how you disappeared after you ran away from disproving any points on HOSTS files I may have ever made, you off topic trolling scumbag

"I have no interest in explaining why hosts file usage (the way you do it, at least) is a bad idea, in much the same way I have no interest in explaining to my 3 year old how the microwave makes her applesauce warm; the capacity to understand isn't there." - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Monday February 28, @04:32PM (#35341578)

TRANSLATED FROM "TROLL-SPEAK" = Stenchmwarrior is an off topic trolling "ne'er-do-well" that doesn't even know where to BEGIN about HOSTS files and how they work or how they are used...

APK

P.S.=> Everyone here knows you haven't done squat in the art & science of computing and that you never will. You are a trolling, off-topic, "ne'er-do-well" loser, and we know, but most importantly? YOU know it... apk

You RUN, You LOSE, I WIN... always! apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35347238)

See subject-line: Drink it in & digest it (the bitter taste of defeat, lmao):

"I have no interest in explaining why hosts file usage (the way you do it, at least) is a bad idea" - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Monday February 28, @04:32PM (#35341578)

LMAO - ok, some specifics then, instead of your ambiguous illiterate bullshit - How so, genius?

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"in much the same way I have no interest in explaining to my 3 year old how the microwave makes her applesauce warm; the capacity to understand isn't there" - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Monday February 28, @04:32PM (#35341578)

I agree that YOU lack the understanding of how a HOSTS file is used, and that's why you avoid discussing it!

(No, instead you RUN, because you tried trolling me and I simply asked you to explain why in detail... Is your favorite color "transparent", or what, troll?)

APK

P.S.=> "You LOSE" (sing to the tune of Blue Moon, lol!)... apk

Re:Here I am (what's your hassle w/ HOSTS?)... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35348036)

I am a loudmouth knowitall blowhard. Disregard anything I say, even if it has merit.
APK

Re:Offtopic: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35338574)

Wrong! It ususally goes Win vs Linux and/or Mac vs. Linux.
Give the slahdot badge back.

Re:Offtopic: (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35338676)

No it'll become a US sucks/No it doesn't within the 30th comment.

Re:Offtopic: (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 3 years ago | (#35338728)

Ding ding ding! We have the winning prediction!

Re:Offtopic: (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339524)

Nah, this time Europe sucks. Specifically Italy, France, and UK... The US got sloppy seconds..

Re:Offtopic: (1)

andrea.sartori (1603543) | more than 3 years ago | (#35345796)

We both lose. APK wins. Sort of.

How does the livestream come through (1)

Gunstick (312804) | more than 3 years ago | (#35338596)

Since quite some time a livestream from Benghazi is available. How is this possible if the internet was blocked?
http://www.livestream.com/libya17feb [livestream.com]

Re:How does the livestream come through (5, Informative)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339070)

There are two Libyas now.

The Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya - That's Gaddafi's Libya, its the government that use to run all of the geographical area we think of as Libya.
The National Libyan Council - is revolutionary Libya based on Benghazi, it's been under rebel control for over a week now.

Re:How does the livestream come through (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339618)

The "rebels" as they still seem to be called, are gaining more territory by the day. I'm envisioning a bunker scenario for Gaddafi. I doubt he'll let himself be taken alive.

Re:How does the livestream come through (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339806)

You see that they grabbed one of his bunkers? I'm not sure what we call the two factions informally, I use Gaddafi and New Libya when talking about it with my wife.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L1hWPGVcB0 [youtube.com]

Re:How does the livestream come through (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35340744)

You know she just married you for your low uid.

Re:How does the livestream come through (3, Insightful)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340044)

I doubt he'll let himself be taken alive.

On the contrary, he has all the hallmarks of a coward and probably doesn't have the guts to shoot himself. I predict a Saddam Hussein style ending for him.

Re:How does the livestream come through (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35341584)

Actually, I'm going to go with the "big-time pop/rock star" ending (drug overdose) for Gaddafi. He seems to be on something most of the time he speaks, so an OD wouldn't be too far fetched.

Re:How does the livestream come through (1)

slick7 (1703596) | more than 3 years ago | (#35343158)

Actually, I'm going to go with the "big-time pop/rock star" ending (drug overdose) for Gaddafi. He seems to be on something most of the time he speaks, so an OD wouldn't be too far fetched.

Considering all of the US's "allies", I expect this country to bite the hand that fed Qaddafi. Where;s Cheney lauding his friends now?
Can't wait until Saudi Arabia turns considering all the payoffs to the "royal" family [huffingtonpost.com] .

Re:How does the livestream come through (2)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35343838)

Bringing Gaddafi in from the cold was a good deal in 2003-2004. The guy did give up his WMD program to the US/UK and opened up for inspections.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/02/2011227162155530547.html [aljazeera.net]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_weapon_proliferation#Libya [wikipedia.org]

If the US and UK hadn't bridged the gap, then he'd had mustard gas to drop on the Free Libya movement and social networking technologies like Twitter, Skype would be banned from distribution to Libya.

As it is now, there is mustard gas a few hundred km south of Tripoli (where the US/UK can see it from satellite) at a military base but no bomb canisters for deploying it.

Re:How does the livestream come through (0)

budgenator (254554) | more than 3 years ago | (#35343298)

It seems to me that not only isn't Gaddafi in control, of either "his" country or his mind, but hasn't been for quite some time. I think it's really a case of my signature in Libya.

Information wants to be free (3, Insightful)

rs1n (1867908) | more than 3 years ago | (#35338632)

Sooner or later, governments will finally acknowledge that you simply cannot stop the dispersal of information. Even in countries such as China where there is heavy regulation of media, people still manage to find ways to communicate their ideas -- just not on a large scale as elsewhere in the world. What we are seeing is that the internet may be the key to a future in which governments will no longer be able to censor speech. To disconnect from the internet would be to engage in electronic economic suicide (I am sure that Egypt's e-commerce was considerably hurt by the outage), and to remain connected would mean that sooner or later, the gates to the control center of censorship will crumble from all the tiny cracks created from within.

Re:Information wants to be free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35338746)

To be honest, that'll probably happen around the same time self-important "revolutionaries" stop feeling the need to remind everyone about this every hour.

Yeah, sure, I could've found a less flamebaitish way to say it, but that's the ultimate truth: Once it gets to the point that we don't need to be repeatedly reminded of this over and over and over again by grandstanding nerds preaching to the choir in a desperate bid to get in history books as a part of "teh revolution" or whatnot — that is, once it actually is in the public zeitgeist and not just a stopped-clock-is-right-twice-a-day street preacher raving — THEN we can say there's progress being made.

Also, it wouldn't have been as fun to say it less flamebaitey. It also wouldn't have allowed me to coin the terms "flamebaitish" and "flamebaitey", or do either flamebaitily.

Re:Information wants to be free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35338756)

China's model seems to be working the best. Allow internet access, but block certain sites and monitor it heavily. That, combined with brutal punishment for abuses, seems to work well and keep the citizenry in line. People need to learn, but punishment if necessary, that they are not the equals of the ruling class, and if you play with fire expect to be burned.

Re:Information wants to be free (2)

TheLink (130905) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339106)

China isn't having those sort of problems yet because there are also the carrots. It's not all sticks. People in China have got richer (though the gap has widened) and thus got more and more to lose over the decades. There's hope of improvement and obesity is even becoming a problem.

Not true for too many people in Tunisia, Egypt etc. When you have large numbers of discontented people with little to lose, you have a big problem.

Once more and more people have low confidence that they or their loved ones would be alive even a month later[1], they stop getting so scared of you even if you threaten to kill them and their families.

[1] Apparently Egypt is very dependent on wheat imports. Russia (and India) stopped exporting wheat last year due to poor harvests. The "bread and circuses" stuff stops working when you run out of bread.

Re:Information wants to be free (1, Interesting)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339926)

People in China have got richer (though the gap has widened)

This is not a coincidence. Margaret Thatcher explained [youtube.com] it more succinctly than any economist. There is a blind assumption that "wealth gaps" are indicative of an unhealthy society, completely oblivious to the real quality of life. Hong Kong has a great deal of "wealth inequality" but its quality of life is immeasurably greater than far more "equal" nations like Kyrgyzstan.

[...] and thus got more and more to lose over the decades.

Which has actually worked against political reform. As you note yourself, when people are starving the threat of death loses its sting. The corollary is that when people are comfortable, injustices that happen to others are easier to tolerate. Liberty has been traded for stability in China, as it always has been since the death of the hundred schools of thought at the burning of books and burying of scholars. Several more generations in China must live and die before the authoritarian spirit that has been at the core of its society and government for more than three thousand years might finally pass away.

Re:Information wants to be free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35340642)

This is not a coincidence. Margaret Thatcher explained [youtube.com] it more succinctly than any economist. There is a blind assumption that "wealth gaps" are indicative of an unhealthy society, completely oblivious to the real quality of life. Hong Kong has a great deal of "wealth inequality" but its quality of life is immeasurably greater than far more "equal" nations like Kyrgyzstan.

So she is saying saying that a country where everyone is poor is not as well off as a country where 90% are incredibly wealthy and 10% are destitute? Amazing insight Mrs. Thatcher!

Which has actually worked against political reform. As you note yourself, when people are starving the threat of death loses its sting[....]

Nice job proving his point for him.

Re:Information wants to be free (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340918)

Ironic in a way: Egypt was the source of wheat for the *original* "bread and circuses".

Re:Information wants to be free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35338864)

Information can be free, but so is the ability to track where it lands up. Given governments cooperating with each other (ACTA), it can be where heavy punishments (torture and killing of a person, their family, and their friends) can be an effective deterrent. Look at the rumors of the esteemed Lybian strong man and how he buries people alive as an example of this.

Right now, information is free, but as governments become more and more repressive, it might be that the cost of the information being handed out (having your kid be rendered sans fingers, toes, legs, arms, eyes, ears, and nose) may ensure that information stays where it is.

There is a reason why tyrannies stay for a long time, and almost always a revolution trades one slavemaster for another who is likely far more brutal (as in the case of Iran.)

Re:Information wants to be free (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339424)

Sooner or later, governments will finally acknowledge that you simply cannot stop the dispersal of information.

Many of them have. They work by contaminating information and it lets them delay the people's realization long enough to hit them with the next distraction. Welcome to the new millenium.

Re:Information wants to be free (1)

mlts (1038732) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340082)

You hit the nail on the head. It isn't hard to get so much information out there, fake or not, that people just don't care. If people get so many factoids that they can't tell if it is another The Onion headline or actual news, they will stop caring.

The only way this will be gotten around is to have anon news sources which vet any information they get, either by corroborating it with other stories, or by other means, then signing that the information is actually real.

Re:Information wants to be free (1)

foobsr (693224) | more than 3 years ago | (#35341504)

The only way this will be gotten around is to have anon news sources which vet any information they get, either by corroborating it with other stories, or by other means, then signing that the information is actually real.

Here, in Germany, they have already foreseen this dangerous development and are having a test run on obfuscating reality in a way that makes it hard to realize real reality. In case you did not care, I am referring to the Guttenberg copy&paste case.

CC.

Re:Information wants to be free (1)

mysidia (191772) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340144)

governments will finally acknowledge that you simply cannot stop the dispersal of information.

Is that before or after Qaddafi deploys his Backhoe corps to plow across the country severing all the underground fiber lines while increasing power to his WiFi jammers?

Re:Information wants to be free (1)

localman57 (1340533) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340388)

Then they'll do what the rebels have been doing since the beginning. A lot of the early stuff was sneaker-netted on CDs and Flash drives across the border, and injected into the internet from there.

Re:Information wants to be free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35344516)

You seem to labour under the false aprehension that China's firewall is to disallow knowledge of the outside world, it's real function is to prevent western forces being incendiary using the medium. In much the same way most so called human rights violations are purely the government attempting to eliminate foreign powers' from influencing them.
Next time you watch the mainstream news pay attention and see how many lies they tell you, research the things they tell you and observe for yourself.
Not long ago I learned about other countries as I had friends I met online living in them (not sure on their status currently) and I noticed that the news was misinformation. After a little research I realised that the UK mainstream news is not misinformation it is DISinformation. It is propaganda plain and simple, as appears to be all mainstream american media, if not all european media then most of it and a good deal of other media including al-jazeera. Why they lie and who they lie for is not an issue I feel it useful to discuss right now, the fact that they do, and that with a little independant research you can percieve this fact quite simply is most important

Twitter's fine but ... (4, Insightful)

PPH (736903) | more than 3 years ago | (#35338642)

... you really can't get a good feel for Gaddafi's rants in 140 character chunks.

cracks of the crackpot (1)

G3ckoG33k (647276) | more than 3 years ago | (#35338950)

"Gaddafi's rants in 140 character chunks."

What else do you expect from a strange person (still not necessarily a legal crackpot)? My guess he was so filled with self esteem he lost touch with the outside world, in a sense Salvador Dali did. I am not convinced either of these were "legal madmen", just bizarre. Unfortunately, Gadaffi still has some power left power but Dali never did.

Re:cracks of the crackpot (1)

khr (708262) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339216)

In 140 characters? "The difference between me and madmen is I am a madman"?

makes more sense 140 chars at a time (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339484)

hmmmmmm, #timecubebot , anyone?

Re:cracks of the crackpot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35344706)

I used to think he (Gaddafi) was a nut, but then I found out about "the Amazonian Guard".
Hmmm.......

Re:Twitter's fine but ... (2)

chill (34294) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339010)

Can you imagine Hugo Chavez with his 5-10 hour speeches broken into 140 characters?

Unlimited text messaging would soon become a human right in Venezuela!

Re:Twitter's fine but ... (2)

wsapplegate (210233) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340476)

Can you imagine Hugo Chavez with his 5-10 hour speeches broken into 140 characters?

While I understand it's always fun to lambast Hugo Chávez, I'd like to point out he indeed has a Twitter account [twitter.com] , and he even attracted more than one million followers. Not so shabby, eh?

Re:Twitter's fine but ... (1)

LanMan04 (790429) | more than 3 years ago | (#35341192)

Especially in unicode!

I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

wiggles (30088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35338782)

“We are also supporting the development of new tools that enable citizens to exercise their rights of free expression by circumventing politically motivated censorship,” she said. “We are providing funds to groups around the world to make sure that those tools get to the people who need them in local languages, and with the training they need to access the internet safely. The United States has been assisting in these efforts for some time, with a focus on implementing these programs as efficiently and effectively as possible. Both the American people and nations that censor the internet should understand that our government is committed to helping promote internet freedom.”
--Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, 1/21/2010
Source [wordpress.com]

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35338938)

Because you can trust Hillary and Obama.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

wiggles (30088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35338982)

I trust them about as far as the Secret Service would let me throw them, which isn't very far at all, but she said what she said. You have to admit that unfettered access to the internet for citizens inside an oppressive regime seems to be quite the game changer these days, to the point that it can be used strategically.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

chemicaldave (1776600) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339024)

You have to admit that unfettered access to the internet for citizens inside an oppressive regime seems to be quite the game changer these days, to the point that it can be used strategically.

Indeed, much less messy than a physical show of force with the military. I've heard testimony from Libyans asking foreign powers to help them oust Gaddafi, but they'll have to deal with it themselves in that regard. Hopefully we are doing something directly other than scrambling for a UN sanction.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339492)

Realistically, this is time for Iraq strategy. The old one, not the target Jr. one, only taken to the end. No fly zone over country (would be the first time those expensive as fuck F-22s could actually see any action), supply arms to rebels quietly through CIA contacts. Have them win and be in debt to you.

The problem is that Gaddafi can afford to get all those Ruandan/Sudanese/Kongolese rapist mass-murdering fucks to come and do it in his own country and is currently flying them in as much as his planes let him. Contain that and he will likely fall. Don't contain, and he has a pretty good chance of winning it Ruanda style - it doesn't matter how hungry you are, when your options are to support him, or be forced to watch as all your female relatives get raped until they die or get pregnant and be forced to keep the kid who will be taken away to be trained as another merc punches the rebellious air out of men very fast - no matter how poor and hungry they are.

This is isn't a horror story. This is reality in large parts of Africa, and has been so for decades now.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339768)

Nice dig at the F-22, but you don't need top of the line intercepters running a no-fly zone over Libya.

UN/NATO/EU No-Fly Zone would likely look like this...
French carrier Charles DeGaulle and an American carrier would be in the Gulf of Sidra with AWACS up from both carriers, maybe Eurofighter Typhoons and F-16s coming down from Italy. Anything unauthorized thats spotted over Libya gets escorted or shot down by the 60+ Rafales and F-18s off the two carriers. Two carriers like that could dominate the region for two or three months.

Control the air corridors into Libya and no murdering asshats get in to do Gaddafi's wet work.

The former head of Libya's Special Forces said he'd liked to see "...an Arab air force, a European air force or the United States Air Force for air support, in that order of preference." Before the Revolution, the Egyptians would be the best poised to do that, but I doubt they'll get involved now, so then the Gulf States...umm I doubt they'll aid a revolution with their own about the break out. So Arab air forces are out. The EU might be able to do it themselves, but right now they only have one carrier (Charles de Gaulle), five STOL carriers (HMS Illustrious, Cavour, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Juan Carlos I, Principe de Asturias). The CdG is pretty capable, the five STOL carriers can't do a No Fly Zone, not even with the five of them together.

It just happens that USS Enterprise is in the Red Sea and might be heading back through the Suez today for Libya.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (2)

localman57 (1340533) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340450)

You specifically don't use F22's in a place like Libya. Less cutting edge stuff will easily do the job, as well as the fact that the only place you need to enforce no-fly zones is near the coast, making longer range naval surface to air a possiblity for large percentages of populated areas.

Even with your latest, greatest, there is always the chance that some guy with an AA gun will get lucky, or that you'll have a mechanical failure and crash. Then you have a big, big problem, as all of a sudden Russian and Chinese agents show up with giant duffle bags full of cash, offering farmers $$$ for anything that looks vaguely like busted up aircraft parts.

There's a lot of speculation that the latest Chinese stealth fighter was developed so quickly because they got hits from the parts of the F-117 that went down during the Kosovo operations.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (2)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340530)

And F-22s are only forward deployed to the Pacific and Korea.

That risk of loss from operation tempo and the magic bullet are also reasons why the EU/NATO won't send Eurofighter Typhoon down there. Harriers, Rafales, F-16s and F-18s can deal with anyone in North Africa and have more loiter time than F-22 or Typhoon.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | more than 3 years ago | (#35342318)

A problem and an issue:

1. Libya has decent SAM and AAA. You'd need to go into attack mode and kill at least radar installations first. That would be something we really, really don't want to be doing, as that paints it like an invasion. Hence, you want stealth fighters if possible with AWACS craft from out of SAM radar range guiding the interception. Rafales, tyhoons and F18s are at a very real risk of getting shot down, especially if doing interceptions. Look at the lessons learned from Iraq - at the start of the war, you have no non-stealth craft in the SAM range until B-2s and F-117s have killed most to all of them. Else, look forward to lost aircraft.

2. Carriers are essentially pointless like a cock on a cow here. We have NATO airbases all over the area. We can use actual ground-based fighters, that are generally lighter, more nimble, far more numerous, and can carry more payload as they don't need to have ruggedised airframe, hook and other STOL capabilities. Deployment options range from Crete, Greece and Italy that are within a few tens of minutes of flight to France and Spain that may take about an hour.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (2)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35342480)

1. Libya has 1970s SAMs and 1960s AAA, the places where those nodes are still in Gaddafi's hands are airbases around Tripoli. The Prowlers and Super Hornets on a US carrier as well as the Rafales on Charles de Gaulle can identify those, jam and kill those with HARM and SCALP missiles with very very little collateral damage.

That is if the Libyan military even turned those on. If the Libyan military is down to flying in guys from the Congo and Sierra Leone as heavies, the danger of an integrated air defense network is very low.

2. Carriers beat NATO airbases because they are able to get much, much closer while carriers and amphibious assault ships make for very good and efficient staging areas for humanitarian assistance. Carriers and Amphibs can deploy food, medical teams and evacuate people with helicopters, planes out of Sicily can't.

Naval Air Station Sigonella to Benghazi is 450 air miles. Crete to Benghazi is 310. Malta to Benghazi is 410 air miles. The eastern Gulf of Sidra is 50-75 miles from Benghazi.

Cairo West Airfield to Benghazi is 650 air miles, if the Arab League and Egypt decided to allow that to be used.

If the humanitarian problems go to western or southern Libya, naval aviation remains the most flexible option.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | more than 3 years ago | (#35343772)

1. Libya has 1970s SAMs and 1960s AAA, the places where those nodes are still in Gaddafi's hands are airbases around Tripoli. The Prowlers and Super Hornets on a US carrier as well as the Rafales on Charles de Gaulle can identify those, jam and kill those with HARM and SCALP missiles with very very little collateral damage.

Which brings us to the point that you have to go into ground attack. Which means awesome propaganda material for enemy and a huge anti-western backlash in the region. No go.
Remember, we do NOT want to get on the ground. We do NOT want to attack ground. We do NOT want to do anything that will make it look like West is attacking Arab world. It's one thing to supply the rebels (which is doable via sending simple supply fleets to their ports), it's entirely another to start taking part in the shooting war on the ground, even from the air. I think we all learned from Iraq and Afghanistan that when you go between two sides who both hate you, they stop fighting each other and both turn on you.
What we want done is air superiority, i.e. no transport flights in our out of the country. This is best achieved by simple AWACS and loitering air superiority aircraft. Carrier is utterly pointless considering the air bases you listed.

Carriers beat NATO airbases because they are able to get much, much closer while carriers and amphibious assault ships make for very good and efficient staging areas for humanitarian assistance.

Carrier is perhaps the single most overestimated and overadvertised military unit of modern ages. As long as you have an airbase within reasonable range, carrier is a lame duck. It's far less efficient, far more vulnerable, and deploys significantly weaker aircraft then airbases can. Amphibious assault is done by amphibious ships, supplying by supply ships. The reason carrier get advertised when this happens is because these ships are usually a part of carrier's strike force, and US navy needs every single reason it can get its hands on to advertise carriers as viable. There is absolutely no reason to send a carrier strike force for amphibious mission when there is a large airbase nearby - have airbase provide air support and send a strike force of actual, specialized supply and amphibious ships. It's much cheaper, much less risky and much faster.

The main reason for media advertising carriers so much is to turn public attention from reality - that being that the moment the real war against a real opponent starts (i.e. China, Russia, etc), ALL US carriers have life expectancy of less then 24 hours, with most being killed inside first 6-12 hours by enemy submarines and supersonic maritime strike bombers. When you consider the cost of each unit, and what you could have for that cost, you begin to understand just how wasteful they generally are.

Essentially the main viability of a carrier is force projection where friendly airbases are scarce. In Iraq and Afghanistan, carriers got a lot of media attention, but vast majority of air force projected over area was flown from ground bases, and essentially entire early strike was done from US-based airbases with refuel over Atlantic, and support flights provided from Saudi-Arabian and EU bases. The reason US has had so much wrangling with local former USSR republics over air bases is because if they stop functioning, there is simply no way to pick up the slack. Vast majority of existing heavy attack and bomber craft as well as supply planes simply cannot operate from a carrier due to lack of STOL capabilities.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35344070)

US carriers don't operate STOL aircraft.

US carriers operate traditional fixed wing and rotary wing aircraft, up to and including two engine turboprop cargo and AWACS aircraft.

Like my post pointed out, the land bases for Libya are some distance away, to operate a No Fly Zone over Libya from land bases in the northern Med, tankers and SAR would have to be moved into place before anything could happen.

Combat radius of an F-16 on a CAP is about 500 miles, so to fly from Sicily to northern Libya is going to require two refuelings (one down for time on station, one back), three for southern Libya.

Italy's Typhoon has a range of 100 miles for a three hour CAP, the same amount of fuel or an extra tanking.

An F-18E/F from a carrier has combat radius for air to air interdiction of 450 miles, plus the F-18E/F can carry tanks to refuel other F-18E/Fs or aircraft with a refueling probe (Rafale, US Navy/Marine aircraft, Typhoon). Plus because it's an aircraft carrier it can operate much closer to shore than Sicily/Crete or Malta are.

Discussions about the survivability of carriers against China or Russia are moot and off topic, we are talking about a No Fly Zone against Libya.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | more than 3 years ago | (#35344370)

US carriers don't operate STOL aircraft.

FYI: all carrier operated aircraft is STOL-modified. Modifications typically include:
1. Ruggedised landing gear (and often slightly longer nose landing gear for better take off angle).
2. Ruggedised airframe.
3. Landing hook.

This tends to add quite a bit of extra weight to the aircraft. Additionally some STOL mods include larger wingspan (i.e. F-35's upcoming naval version) and other modifications.

Carrier-based AWACS aircraft, in comparison with heavy ground based one is a joke. We're talking significantly smaller antennas and less power to radar, and I'm sorry, but laws of physics dictate that there is no way to compensate for that.

Refueling isn't done via essentially jury-rigging another heavy fighter to lug 4 external tanks (it's something done in carrier-only scenario and is extremely inefficient). It's done via a real heavy refueling aircraft like american KC-X tankers.

Finally, most fighter aircraft has a significantly longer effective range with external fuel tanks. The only real exception to this rule in modern fighters is SU-27 and its derivatives, which has significant internal tanks as it was designed from get go not to carry any external fuel tanks unless absolutely necessary.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35345218)

No, US and French carrier based aircraft are not STOL modified aircraft.

STOL is an acronym for short take-off and landing, a term used to describe aircraft with very short runway requirements. F-18, Rafale, EA-6, C-2, E-2,, Super Étendard, for example either use a catapult for take off and arrestors for landing, those don't make something STOL.

Super Hornet does have a refueling capability with the center line refueling tank and four extra fuel tanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-18E#Tanker_role [wikipedia.org]

Yes, the E-2C and D are jokes, thats why they've been used by a number of countries for over 40 years and continue to have upgrades. They only directed American fighters and strike aircraft through Vietnam, Lebanon, the Gulf of Sidra, the Tanker War, Desert Storm, Bosnia, Kosovo, OIF and thousands upon thousands of refugee and drug interdictions.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35342586)

Also, the United States Navy has a long and storied history of farking up Libyan air defenses, even when Gaddafi controlled the entire area and the military was loyal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1981) [wikipedia.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_in_the_Gulf_of_Sidra_(1986) [wikipedia.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Libya#U.S._forces_and_targets [wikipedia.org] - look to the A-6 and A-7 targets
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1989) [wikipedia.org]

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

khallow (566160) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339860)

but she said what she said

If only words meant something (heh, well at least credible action).

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340954)

but she said what she said.

That's what she said!

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35339148)

Up until the first widely publicised case of someone using those tools to transmit child pornography - at which point not only will all government cease instantly, but the developers will likely find their computers confiscated as part of the investigation.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339554)

Well, the tools will be restricted to non-free countries, because after all, in free countries you don't need them anyway ...

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (4, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339858)

The US government only cares about the right of the people to express dissent against foreign leaders they disapprove of. In fact, no more than a month after Hillary Clinton gave that speech, she gave another address condemning foreign governments for silencing dissent. During that speech, Army veteran and former CIA analyst Ray McGovern turned his back. For that silent, peaceful, non-disruptive act he was dragged from the room and assaulted [democracynow.org] .

This is the definition of hypocrisy. Hillary Clinton witnessed the scene happening directly in front of her and never said a word. These are the kind of people we have leading America today.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340650)

I think you need to vet your news more carefully. That is a very one-sided account you presented us with, and the guy "assaulted" is a total nut-job, so the one-side is immediately suspect.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340728)

The guy in question is actually a very reasonable person. He was a CIA analyst for 25 years and advisor to the first President Bush. He's not any more a nutjob than Hillary Clinton is.

The entire thing was captured on video, and reported in many non-mainstream news sources. The mainstream media will of course not report on anything that conflicts with the narrative the government puts forth.

If events did not transpire as described, you could find at least one report saying so. There is no evidence otherwise, so the media simply doesn't acknowledge it happened.

If you're worried about a one-sided account, there's half a dozen mainstream news channels with professional reporters who could shed light on the issue. Not one of them has chosen to do so.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Chris Burkhardt (613953) | more than 3 years ago | (#35341264)

Ray McGovern is also the guy who stood up to Rumsfeld in 2006:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1FTmuhynaw [youtube.com]

The internets have jaded me to the point that whenever I see someone written off as "a total nut-job" (as the GP did to McGovern) I almost automatically read it as "a principled person who I disagree with."

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (2)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 3 years ago | (#35342430)

I almost automatically read it as "a principled person who I disagree with."

He's a 911 "truther". [911truth.org] He may have been a good CIA analyst, but he's either playing up the nutjobs for money or he is one himself.

At the very least, you should be skeptical when literally the only account you can find of an event in a room full of people comes from one man. I won't come right out and call him a liar, but nor will I condemn Clinton without hearing more... and believe me, I'm no fan of Clinton.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

Chris Burkhardt (613953) | more than 3 years ago | (#35344366)

> He's a 911 "truther". [911truth.org] He may have been a good CIA analyst, but he's either playing up the nutjobs for money or he is one himself.

I understand your skepticism, but to dismiss him as a "nutjob" because he holds to theories that you and I find incredible is a rather black-and-white approach to assessing the credibility of the story. Dan Ellsberg is on the list in the link you posted; does that give you serious doubts about the validity of the Pentagon Papers?

> At the very least, you should be skeptical when literally the only account you can find of an event in a room full of people comes from one man

I agree, and I wish I could find more accounts of the event. It seems that Amy Goodman and Democracy Now was the most mainstream program to cover it. Though much of it was captured on video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Vy8fFnz18 [youtube.com]

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 3 years ago | (#35346602)

Dan Ellsberg is on the list in the link you posted; does that give you serious doubts about the validity of the Pentagon Papers?

It might if the Pentagon Papers weren't released in the 70s and authenticated :)

I'll tell you what I see in that video - I see a man actively resisting some cops and shouting things. His account of what happened before and after the video may or may not be true, but I have no way of knowing. Certainly they are not using disproportionate force in the video - you wish that they weren't wrestling with him, but then again he is wrestling too. The cops have every right to remove someone disruptive from a private event like that.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 3 years ago | (#35342450)

If events did not transpire as described, you could find at least one report saying so.

That's quite the logical jump.

Why hasn't a single media outlet, alternative or otherwise, talked to anyone else who was in the room with the man. It was a room full of people at a University! I'm not going to make any condemnations of Hillary Clinton based on a single story from a man with CIA training, an activist agenda, and a history of similar publicity stunts.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (3, Informative)

LanMan04 (790429) | more than 3 years ago | (#35341252)

The guy worked as an intelligence analyst under 7 different administrations (27 years) and was the guy who prepared/gave the daily intel briefing to the president for a lot of those years.

That gives him at least a *little* base credibility. He's not some "Don't taze me bro" protester.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 3 years ago | (#35342366)

That gives him at least a *little* base credibility

Which he pisses away by being a "truther" and doing a tour of all the paranoid sites on the web.

Besides, aren't the CIA known for some of the BAD things they do? Don't you think that a CIA guy might know how to work the media? Especially the crazy media, since I can't find any info on a reputable news site except Al Jazeera. And even they just have a blurb and not anything substantial.

At the very least, you'd want an independent report from some witnesses. All that link shows is the story as told by one guy with a history of these kind of stunts.

Re:I suspect the US Government is doing something (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35340130)

That's why the US government is so supportive of Wikileaks.org, right?

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Libyan Telecom and Technology? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35339190)

Anyone else just picture James Earl Jones wading through a scale Earth in the Atlantic? "LT&T, the fart of communication"

we should all setup proxies for them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35339214)

so that gas prices will go down soon

Re:we should all setup proxies for them (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340076)

Dream on. Gas prices have only just begun to rise. It will take demand destruction (ie the next collapse of the US economy) to pull them down again. There's too much money to be made by traders.

News from Lybia are simple not true in 75% of all (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35339356)

My uncle is in Libya. Even Skype worked all the time, without any hiccup. There wasn't any block.
Also Twitter worked, which made possible all kinds of lying and the media was happy to pick up anything as headline, without checking sources. I have no such information about recent revolutions, but in case of Libya the real events (based on my uncle's info's) and the US/EU "official" journal reports are terribly far from each other. (ps: my uncle is a foreign diplomat, not a Libyan.)

Re:News from Lybia are simple not true in 75% of a (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340026)

What about Al Jazeera or Al Arabiya?

A number of countries, Cuba and Venezuela come to mind, are denying the revolution and supporting Gaddafi's claims.

The tens of thousands of Libyan and foreign refugee's testimony make it sound like the US/EU reports are closer to the truth.

Re:News from Lybia are simple not true in 75% of a (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35340342)

1st: I'm from an EU country, not from Cuba/Venezuela. 2nd: It can be more true in some part of the country, but not in Tripoli. There were no bombings, no militia raiding homes or shooting random people from the top of houses, not much protesters even. You saw this in the news, or just the opposite? That's all what I wanted to say.

Displacement Activity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35339388)

Libya is a distraction. The real problem are the useless politicians at home who act as a front for big business and kick the victims on welfare. That's the real problem. How about we start cracking the "firewall" of smooth corporations, bent law that favours the rich and powerful, and "corporate confidentiality"?

Re:Displacement Activity (1)

OctaviusIII (969957) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340874)

Our job is to get the word out about corruption here at home while supporting those that are taking on the blatant corruption elsewhere. Our corporate greed feeds their dictatorship, and their dictatorship gives good cover for our corporate greed. We're all in this fight together.

Future dictators will take a Col. Kilgore approach (2)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35339696)

"I want that firewall fire-bombed! Bomb that Internet and twitter back into the stone age, son! I love the smell of napalm in the morning . . . "

Although this sounds outrageous, this is probably what a bunch of them have their general staff working on . . .

satellite courtesy of the USA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35339850)

...or the USA made some satellite resources available and they've linked it into their network locally to support low bandwidth activities like twitter and facebook.

Am I stupid or what? (1)

t0p (1154575) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340220)

Okay, maybe this'll get me flamed to death for my ignorance: but .ly is the TLD for Libya, right? But bit.ly has been working fine throughout all the trouble, right? So what kind of paltry firewall has Gadaffi been using?

Re:Am I stupid or what? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35340422)

root servers not in ly

Re:Am I stupid or what? (1)

wsapplegate (210233) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340448)

*Sigh* No flames, but if I may say so, a bit of investigation wouldn't have hurt, either. Two command lines (dig -t ns ly. and whois `dig +noall +answer bit.ly | cut -f7`) would have told you two things:

  • The .ly ccTLD has got secondary nameservers outside Lybia, courtesy of RIPE, UUNet and the University of Oregon
  • bit.ly uses a Lybian domain but is hosted in the US (by NTT)

As far as the "Lybian firewall" is concerned, it appears to exist, in a very crude form (they drop their BGP sessions, which cuts them off from the rest of the Internet as a matter of fact), but it seems it's intermittently on and off (currently, I can reach LTT's network, at least). As to what is really going on, I haven't the faintest clue.

If you did any investigations... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35341228)

...you'd know that the country is Libya, not Lybia.

Re:Am I stupid or what? (1)

RockDoctor (15477) | more than 3 years ago | (#35346142)

*Sigh* No flames, but if I may say so, a bit of investigation wouldn't have hurt, either.

I read the GP as deliberately appearing misinformed, and making a separate point : that ".ly" domains nominally belong to Lybia, but by being outside their physical domain, are practically out of the control of the Lybian government. The varying reports of partial/ intermittent access to some networks in some regions of Lybia simply make the same point better.

I suspect that increasing numbers of countries are going to start making stipulations that domains under their TLD are going to be hosted and authoritatively-name-served within the borders of that state. Which might make life slightly awkward for the likes of Western Samoa.

So, who does control the .com domain, really? (This is a rhetorical question.)

If I were Gaddafi, Kadafi, KahDaffy or whatever, (1)

cvtan (752695) | more than 3 years ago | (#35340846)

I would be worrying about my precious bodily fluids, not the internet.

Daffy Khadaffy's precious bodily fluids (1)

Jim Efaw (3484) | more than 3 years ago | (#35342954)

I would be worrying about my precious bodily fluids, not the internet.

He's been doing that quite enough. The whole time he's been in power, or at least the last 30 years or so, he has been obsessed with people being doped up, given alcohol, or otherwise polluted. A few days ago, he told the public to avoid any milk or Nescafe from the areas in rebellion because they had been spiked with hallucinogens [reuters.com] .

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