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IPad 2 33% Thinner, 2x Faster, iOS 4.3

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the that's-a-paddling dept.

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Steve Jobs was on hand today deliver a speech at Apple's iPad 2 event. The new iPad will feature dual-core processors, 2x faster CPU, and 9X faster graphics, front and rear cameras. And it's 33% thinner. Prices range from $499 to $829 depending on if you want 3G and 64 gigs, and it ships March 11. iOS 4.3 will ship at the same time.

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So how do I get iOS 4.3? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360068)

So do I download this iOS 4.3 when it comes out or is it for iPad 2 only?

Re:So how do I get iOS 4.3? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360132)

iOS 4.3 is for for the GSM iPhone 4 and the 3GS. It's also the the iPod touch 4 and 3rd gen model.

No mention of the cdma iphone 4..?

Re:So how do I get iOS 4.3? (1)

mr100percent (57156) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360200)

I believe it already has several of the features already (it's running 4.2.5), such as HotSpot.

Re:So how do I get iOS 4.3? (2)

adamstew (909658) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360216)

iOS 4.3 is compatible with any device that is able to run iOS 4... so this includes various iPhones, iPod touches and all iPads.

Re:So how do I get iOS 4.3? (3, Informative)

schnikies79 (788746) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360250)

Nope. The 2nd gen ipod touch and 3g iphone can run iOS4 but won't get this upgrade.

Not bad (0)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360074)

It looks neat, but they didn't quite sell me on upgrading from my iPad 1. I really wanted that retina display.

Re:Not bad (1)

recoiledsnake (879048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360098)

Didn't Jobs say that 1024x768 ought to be enough for everyone! /joke

Re:Not bad (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360142)

Didn't Jobs say that 1024x768 ought to be enough for everyone! /joke

Uh, yeah, tee hee. That joke realy only gets better with age.

Still though, I hope the next time somebody claims the 'leaks' are coming from Apple's marketing dept remember the not-retina-display of the iPad 2.

Re:Not bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360170)

Kept you from buying anything else, didn't it?

Re:Not bad (3, Informative)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360226)

Kept you from buying anything else, didn't it?

No. The copycat nature and ho-hum'ness of 'anything else' is what kept me from buying it.

Re:Not bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360292)

why would I buy a tablet that has been in development for 1 year over a tablet that has taken 5-6 years of research, engineering and design under its belt? the retina display rumor just kept me from buying a first generation iPad, not some halfassed shitlet'scatchuptoapple tablet.

I love Google, Android, OSS, etc but come on - how can everyone hate Apple so much when they are literally THE reason that these Android tablets were rushed into market?

Re:Not bad (1)

oji-sama (1151023) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360198)

I don't know anyone who believed that iPad 2 was going to have retina-display.

Re:Not bad (1)

magsol (1406749) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360280)

It was made fairly clear early on (CNET, Engadget, Macrumors, etc) that the retina display was not going to make it onto the iPad 2, but would likely show up on the rumored iPad 3 that will possibly debut in September.

Aside from all this, I have to also fall back on the definition of "rumors" and their very nature.

Re:Not bad (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360240)

You know what steve jobs thinks is neat? The fact that you bought the first one, and are seriously contemplating already buying the second one.

Re:Not bad (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360346)

The fact that you bought the first one...

That is not a fact, that is an assumption.

... and are seriously contemplating already buying the second one.

Uh huh, right. Nobody on Slashdot would understand the concept of finding something useful and contemplating whether it's worthwhile to upgrade. Mr. Jobs really is waving his voodoo around here, wooOOoo wooOOooo. Anyway, see you in the next Android Tablet thread.

Same here. No retina == no buy. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360422)

Same here. Funny how they say they got 9x faster graphics and 2x faster CPU, but didn't bother implementing retina display, which, at it's worst-case point, would take a 4x higher toll on the device (assuming quadrupling total pixel count). Which BTW would still make each individual pixel significantly larger than they already have on the iPhone 4 (iPhone 4 quadrupled pixels over iPhone 3S, and iPhone 3S had a higher pixel density than iPad 1 to begin with).

I need a tablet to read stuff. I want to do it in a way that would match the visual experience of reading a book. Kindle is good enough (but B&W plus doesn't do all the other stuff I want to use the tab for), iPhone 4 is good enough but the screen size is way too small. iPad is large enough but the pixel size sucks and it's a totally ruined experience if you actualy want to read something as you'd read in a book.

I'd buy the first tab that lets me read book-quality text, Apple, Android, or whatever. Until then, I'm not buying anything, and I don't care if they wireless ZXN, 42G connectivity, and 9000 cameras on it.

Not bad (2)

recoiledsnake (879048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360078)

Looks like mostly a hardware bump and some minor functionality improvements. But will lot of apps emerge that will take advantage of the big increase in speed(at the cost of alienating the 15 million existing iPad 1 owners)?

Re:Not bad (4, Funny)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360222)

To be fair, the fact that they bought first-generation products proves that they secretly enjoy suffering and inevitable alienation.

Re:Not bad (0)

mr100percent (57156) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360228)

Original iPad is 1 GHz A4 processor, new iPad is 1 GHz A5 processor. I wouldn't worry about that, it's not like the original is that slow or that many apps strain it.

Games can use dual core ... (1)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360412)

Original iPad is 1 GHz A4 processor, new iPad is 1 GHz A5 processor. I wouldn't worry about that, it's not like the original is that slow or that many apps strain it.

Isn't the new iPad also dual core? Games can make use of that.

Re:Not bad (2)

cgenman (325138) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360452)

The same has been true of iPhones. Programmers and designers generally over-estimate what you can get out of a piece of hardware, and it runs slower than it should. New rev of the hardware comes out, and the slow-feeling apps now feel crisp. Everyone starts developing for the new platform, and repeat.

Sure, it will "run" on an iPad 1. But given a few years, and the iPad 1 owners will be a small minority, and everyone will expect apps that push the hardware.

So thin you could break it in half... (2, Insightful)

skids (119237) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360080)

...seriously, who cares how thin it is? Most people I know would just prefer a nice long lasting battery that is user-replaceable.

I mean, unless you need to use it to shimmy a door handle because you don't want to ruin your credit card...

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360114)

...seriously, who cares how thin it is? Most people I know would just prefer a nice long lasting battery that is user-replaceable.

It has a month of standby and 10 hours of active use. That long-lasting enough for ya?

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1)

recoiledsnake (879048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360156)

How about one with a extra 10% thickness/weight and having around 15 hours battery life?

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1, Funny)

smallfries (601545) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360188)

Why stop there? May as well make it only 1% thicker and 150 hours battery life.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1)

repetty (260322) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360204)

How about one with a extra 10% thickness/weight and having around 15 hours battery life?

I'm sure that they considered it and determined that most people did NOT want that bargain. After all, they want to sell as many of these things and make as much money as possible.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360230)

No, and it is not enough even if it was true. It is UP to 10 hours of active use, and what is your standby number based on, turning it off?

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (2)

skids (119237) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360318)

No. Hardly. Needs at least twice that. And again, a user serviceable battery.

Actually, who am I kidding -- I hate tablets and will probably never own one. I guess I'm not the target market.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1)

trollertron3000 (1940942) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360332)

Yes it is. Does it come with fairy dust that makes you believe that bullshit though? Because I can't have one without the other.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1)

BLToday (1777712) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360148)

I really didn't needed it to be thinner, I needed it to be lighter. 1.3 lbs is still too heavy to carry single handed like a writing pad.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1)

_UnderTow_ (86073) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360348)

Seriously? Obviously you should take the money you were planning to use for a tablet to get yourself a gym membership. I regularly browse the internets on my ipad while holding it one hand. What I do with the other hand I leave as an exercise for the reader's imagination.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360378)

I really didn't needed it to be thinner, I needed it to be lighter. 1.3 lbs is still too heavy to carry single handed like a writing pad.

If this is the case, I suggest you start an exercise program.

My briefcase weighs more then that and I carry it around with one hand. By the handle or just be grasping the case itself. 2-3 pounds is no big deal. every time I hear someone say that their new laptop/iPad is so light compared to their old laptop, I keep thinking they are lucky to live in today's modern world. These people would certainly not have lasted long 200-300 years ago.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360382)

I've got a typical 100 sheet writing pad. With pen, it weighs just over 1.1 lb. Maybe what you really need is this. [amazon.com]

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1)

psithurism (1642461) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360470)

I really didn't needed it to be thinner, I needed it to be lighter. 1.3 lbs is still too heavy to carry single handed like a writing pad.

My mom wields clipboards that are heavier than that. I know, as nerds, we are expected to be out of shape, but really, if you can't hold 1.3lbs, maybe its time you hit the gym.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360186)

...seriously, who cares how thin it is? Most people I know would just prefer a nice long lasting battery that is user-replaceable.

Don't count me among them. I haven't wanted to switch the battery, probably because the non-removable battery is bigger than the alternative you suggest. I do, however, appreciate how rigid the body feels and would prefer that to not be weakened.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (0)

Angostura (703910) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360196)

Who cares how thin/light it is? Anyone interested in using it as a book reader

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360358)

An actual e-reader would be quite a lot cheaper though.

Personally, I will stick with my desktop...to me this thing is just a really expensive toy.

Fixes a major complaint (1)

WiiVault (1039946) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360310)

A big complaint about the first iPad was that it was uncomfortable to use as an eBook reader for long periods of time, the weight reduction and thinning while removing sharp edges out should help against that problem.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360368)

It's sort of like the videocamera trend of making them smaller and smaller, instead of making them with better picture quality. All you get is a camera with the same mediocre video quality as the last model, but that's even harder to hold steady. I already have a videocamera I can fit in my pocket, after all. It's called a smartphone. So how about making a dedicated videocamera that I can shoot with without all my videos looking like outtakes from Cloverfield?

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (1, Insightful)

DaveGod (703167) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360392)

Everybody I know who wants Apple products wants it because it's thin and pretty.

Everybody I know who has Apple products say they want things like longer lasting batteries, but they're already locked into the UI and cult of Jobs or whatever you want to call it so they're not going anywhere and ohh look! The new one's so pretty!

That's a lot less of a dig than it probably appears. Apple does what it does very well.

User replaceable? why? (4, Insightful)

dazedNconfuzed (154242) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360410)

The device is under 9mm thick. Making the battery replacable means you have to add two more layers of thickness around the battery module itself, another layer inside the battery bay, a little space for fit tolerance, all adding up to non-trivial increase in overall thickness just so a small percentage of users can actually replace the battery (most who say "I want a removable battery" won't actually do it). Never mind the extra space/weight needed for the connector, interface circuitry, and other stuff. In addition, the replacement battery would have to be almost as wide as the iPad, only ~3mm thick, and somehow strong enough to not bend & break. Solving all that just isn't worth the problem being solved.

The 10+ hour run time is real. Are you REALLY not going to have a chance to recharge, using a 2 cu in charger, during that time?

In a year of heavy use, I've drained my iPad battery at most a half-dozen times, maybe twice when having a charger nearby wasn't a viable solution.

Why would you not prefer external power pack? (3, Informative)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360446)

In all of the iOS devices I have ever had, I have not once had to replace a battery. And even if you need to Apple can do that for you, which is something like once every three years at worst, probably longer (since as I said I have not had to replace a battery in a device yet).

In any device if I wanted longer use time (for instance on an international flight) I always found an external power pack preferable, as they can be smaller than a second battery for a real device - I mean think of how an iPad extra battery would have to be shaped, all by itself it would be pretty bulky and large, where an external battery can opt to be much thicker but also far less higher and wider to provide more battery life in a more compact package.

Apple has made the right choice by making the devices as small as possible, and moving the occasional need to longer use into an external form that can be customized into many shapes and sizes and capacities instead of just one monolithic replacement battery.

Re:So thin you could break it in half... (2)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360450)

I don't know a single person who would rather the user replacable battery, so I guess your anecdote is countered by my equally invalid one. The hard stats will say whether people prefer this over the iPad 1.

Only 3G? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360084)

So, yet again not bleeding edge...

And shipping (almost) right away!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360100)

That is a big lesson to other companies' "summer of X", "definitively this year", "by year's end"....
Announce the hardware and shipping date! Stop the vaporware!

Units (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360104)

64 gigs

What the fuck is a gig? Does it consume 64 gigawatts of energy?

Re:Units (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360138)

No, those are jiggs. Great Scott!

Re:Units (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360254)

64 gigs

What the fuck is a gig? Does it consume 64 gigawatts of energy?

Gigabytes, doofus. Storage space.
Either you're so non-technical that I'm stunned you can launch a web browser, or you're just being intentionally dense.

Let the howling of thousands begin... (0)

AdeBaumann (126557) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360110)

Let the howling of thousands begin... How DARE Apple bring out a new product when they've already bought one!

(Disclaimer: I bought one too.)

Re:Let the howling of thousands begin... (1)

recoiledsnake (879048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360166)

No need to crib, there's no retina display in the new one. And most Apps will try to be compatible with the speeds of the 15 million iPads. Doubt you will see exclusives soon. So what are you missing out on?

The only thing that hasn't changed (2, Informative)

ticketswapz (1974628) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360130)

The iPad is still assembled by cheap Chinese labor who sometimes get suicidal and jump off the Foxconn factory roof so they installed nets. But hey, it's 33% thinner!!!!!

Re:The only thing that hasn't changed (2, Insightful)

repetty (260322) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360242)

The iPad is still assembled by cheap Chinese labor who sometimes get suicidal and jump off the Foxconn factory roof so they installed nets. But hey, it's 33% thinner!!!!!

BTW, I did the numbers a while back...

Foxconn's employee suicide rates are 1/3 the suicide rate of the general U.S. population. We should send people over there to figure out why their employees are so happy and healthy.

Re:The only thing that hasn't changed (1)

DirePickle (796986) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360374)

But IIRC, these Foxconn employees are doing it at work. What percentage of the US population suicides at work?

Re:The only thing that hasn't changed (1)

Xtravar (725372) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360426)

It's because our lives are so empty and all the pretty gadgets in the world won't fix that.

Re:The only thing that hasn't changed (2)

rednip (186217) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360442)

I did the numbers on people who make random claims of statistical analysis and found that too often they're either wrong because of sample issues or just blatant liars.

I doubt if you have the kind of access to Chinese medical and criminal investigation data that one would need create such a study.

Better than the alternatives then (5, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360488)

The iPad is still assembled by cheap Chinese labor who sometimes get suicidal and jump off the Foxconn factory roof so they installed nets.

Well if that bothers you I imagine you aren't buying electronics from any other hardware maker that hides the numbers Apple publishes and produces gear at factories that treat the workers even worse. How do you think a $300 Android tablet gets to be that cheap anyway...

Back to your cave now.

Sooo... (1, Informative)

Stenchwarrior (1335051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360134)

It's a thinner, faster, more expensive iPhone - sans the phone?

Re:Sooo... (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360214)

It's a thinner, faster, more expensive iPhone - sans the phone?

When you go car shopping, do you have trouble discerning the difference between a pickup and a sedan?

Re:Sooo... (2)

Stenchwarrior (1335051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360272)

I guess that's why I drive an El Camino...

Re:Sooo... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360418)

And when your friends ask you to help them move, do you say "Why don't you just use your Geo Storm?" Afterall, it's just a 2-door hatchback sans the flat bed.

StenchWarrior runs like a coward? LOL! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360478)

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632

Why'd you run from discussing that troll? You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!

(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?) You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it... and you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk

But it's new! (1)

Wrexs0ul (515885) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360276)

And shiny! And it'll change the world, again... again.

The sad part is I bought the iPad 1.0 fully knowing they'd change the world with 2.0 by adding a camera. On the plus side it's totally replaced my EEE for any emergency IT functions thanks to LogMeIn and a very nice SSH app.

-Matt

Re:But it's new! (1)

Stenchwarrior (1335051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360312)

Maybe it's the marketing, but the video on their site makes me want to go buy one. Like, I'm not going to feel complete unless I do.

See Stenchwarrior RUN (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360342)

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632

Why'd you run from discussing that troll? You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!

(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)

APK

P.S.=> You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it... and you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk

Leaving the Wisconsin state house now to buy this! (3, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360144)

Will the $829 model be 65% hipper than the $499 model? I *really* want to impress the other guys in the drum circle.

Re:Leaving the Wisconsin state house now to buy th (1)

Gohtar (1829140) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360212)

Drum circle? More like iSheep jerking circle.

Re:Leaving the Wisconsin state house now to buy th (1)

webmistressrachel (903577) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360384)

I think the parent poster was being sarcastic, cos, you know, rich arty types who buy Apple stuff like to live in tents and howl at moon, and participate in, errr, drumming circles, which sound terrible because they only gather to practice at weekends...

Re:Leaving the Wisconsin state house now to buy th (1)

doggo (34827) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360438)

Pffft! Jackhole! Scornful of union supporters and anti-Apple. Wow. Are you always angry too? Really. Really. Angry.

Resolution? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360146)

As an iPad owner the main upgrade incentive would be a higher resolution screen. I see there's no mention of this spec?

So can we take it the iPad 2 will be the same as the original iPad?

Re:Resolution? (2)

soupd (1099379) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360330)

The tech specs on Apple's own website shows 1024x768 resolution, and no mention of the rumoured improved display (that is the rumours that were circulating when most credible reports debunked the retina display rumours). But for me, as a non-iPad owner, the incentive to buy is being able to render all my existing video - including the 1080p stuff the original iPad hasn't got the CPU/GPU muscle to render.

Sold.

Re:Resolution? (5, Interesting)

FunnyStrange (974343) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360408)

On a desktop, adding more resolution to your monitor allows you to fit more stuff on the screen. On iOS devices, where each app takes over the entire screen when it's running, the only way to scale up the resolution without making everything look like crap (anti-aliasing, anyone) would be to *double* the resolution in each direction. That's what the upgrade to the iPhone 4 Retina Display did. Is that even technically feasible for something the size of an iPad at the current price point? Thousands of app developers are thrilled that they don't have to redesign their applications for a new resolution.

Re:Resolution? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360484)

Very true. I guess one benefit will be the 1080p HDMI output - you'll not be able to store too many films at that resolution though, even on the 64GB model.

No SDHC reader! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360160)

Do we hv to wait for iPad 3 then? Or never ever?

Re:No SDHC reader! (5, Insightful)

Carewolf (581105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360420)

Forever. It is a strategy tax. Adding SDHC would make the lower end models compete with high-end models, and Apple prices the low-end models competively, but they make the profit on the high-end models that are much more expensive than expanding the low-end models would cost. 32Gbyte SDHC($50) plus a 3G modem($20) cost a lot less than the $330 price difference.

If they added SDHC-readers they would either have to raise prices on the low-end, or reduce the profit margins on the high-end.

Not that that makes it okay, I still resent them for it, but it makes perfect business sense, and this is no point in dreaming unless they are put under more customer pressure.

9x 'faster' Graphics (1)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360234)

The claims are 9x, but I wonder what the actual performance increase will be.

Re:9x 'faster' Graphics (2)

mblase (200735) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360354)

What I wonder is: how well would Flash web video play with these faster graphics, and exactly how much would it impact the battery life?

(I'm not sure which is more of an issue with Flash: the battery impact, or Apple's fear of web Flash apps duplicating in-store apps. Probably both in equal measure.)

Re:9x 'faster' Graphics (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360366)

9X, obviously...

As long as you only care about alpha channel blending on drop shadows. For everything else its a 5% improvement.

(The entire industry cheats like this, but Apple is, by far, the worst offender at singling out an outlying gain)

tick - TOCK (4, Insightful)

xMrFishx (1956084) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360248)

I'm not entirely convinced this is aimed at upgraders, apart from bleeding edge users but seems to be more for drawing in the second round of buyers. Those that wanted the camera feature, those that have seen what competitors have produced and are now making their purchase decision. There seems to be a minor price reduction on the existing IP1 too, £329 for the 16Gig is showing at time of writing on the UK store, though the IP2 is not listed there yet. No doubt there's so much stock of the IP1 that a price drop will cause more fence sitters to buy in at the older model if they decide they don't want the newest.

It's a nice tactic and these guys really are the pro marketeers. They could sell water to fish.

This follows (loosely) Intel's tick - tock model and doesn't overwhelm the consumer too much allowing production methods to be refined to lower cost for the next tick product whilst still staying in a good market position with the tock item.

meeting the wish list (4, Insightful)

mblase (200735) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360266)

Things normal people wanted and didn't get: USB port, wireless syncing, lower price, 7-inch version

Things normal people wanted and did get: faster, more powerful, same battery life, white body, two cameras, FaceTime

Things geeks wanted and didn't get: oh, hell, I'll be here all day. The geeks can go buy a Xoom to hack instead.

When are they going to cripple my iPad 1? (5, Insightful)

utahjazz (177190) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360294)

I really dig my iPad, and have no reason to get this new one.

Except..Apple is going to make me download the new OS, making my iPad 1 slow to a crawl. Just like they did to my iPhone 3G.

Yes I know I could never update. But, that doesn't seem like a reasonable thing to ask your customers to do.

Re:When are they going to cripple my iPad 1? (1)

mr100percent (57156) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360364)

Apple's products actually survive several OS upgrade cycles before they start to get slow. Original iPhone was good all the way up until iOS 4.

Re:When are they going to cripple my iPad 1? (1)

dingen (958134) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360482)

I don't think iOS4.3 will slow the iPad 1 down that much. iOS6 will do that for sure, iOS5 maybe, but 4.3? Nah.

Obligatory (2, Funny)

gblues (90260) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360298)

No 4G. Less capacity than my thumb drive. Lame.

Re:Obligatory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35360434)

There is no 4G in the US. The RFC file for it requires a 100Mbps speed. What scammers are calling "4G" is just 3G LTE and is no were close to the requirements of actual 4G. The only county with 4G is South Korea.

Not very relevant (2)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360466)

As a person casually interested in tablet computers, I never looked with too much interest at CPU speed. Screen size, application availability, OS and user interface usability and connection ports (USB is a must) are my most relevant factors in the choice. And price. I imagine, however, that even if I were an Apple enthusiast, CPU speed for a tablet would be less important than screen size and user interface. The iPad 2 is definitely an improved model, but no Apple enthusiast will be swept off his/her feet, though some will feel the urge to upgrade, no doubt. The rest of us won't really care about the iPad 2. In fact, at this point a much cheaper Android-based tablet computer may start to look more interesting than before ("Hey, even Apple didn't add much to their own iPad, why not get this $SEMI_ANONYMOUS_BRAND tablet instead?").

Even my Nook comes with a replaceable HD card slot (3, Insightful)

penguin_dance (536599) | more than 3 years ago | (#35360472)

Unless I missed something, it still only comes with an embedded hard drive, forcing you to shell out $$ for a larger hard drive. Even my NookColor has an SD slot (and is also rootable on Android [dkszone.net] ). I feel pretty much about this as I did the first one--looks cool, but considering it costs approx. the same as a laptop (except without Flash), it's an expensive toy.

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