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13 Countries On US "Priority Watch List" For Copyright Piracy

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the worst-of-the-worst dept.

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hapworth writes "The International Intellectual Property Alliance (IIPA) has submitted a report on the top 40 countries guilty of piracy to The Office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR), which is preparing for its annual 'Special 301' report. This report describes the adequacy and effectiveness of US trading partners' protection of intellectual property rights. Among the 40 countries suggested by the IIPA for the watch list, 13 were recommended for placement on the USTR's 'Priority Watch List.' These countries include Argentina, Canada, Chile, China, India, Indonesia, Russia, Costa Rica, the Philippines, Spain, Ukraine, and Vietnam. While previous reports have focused on physical piracy, this year's emphasizes cracking down on online piracy."

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What about America? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365042)

Its own country isnt on it?

Re:What about America? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365108)

the U.S. must be on the list -- TFS lists only 12, and there's no way I'm gonna RTFA, so I figured the U.S. is the 13th nation

Re:What about America? (1)

snookiex (1814614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365654)

Nope, it's not [iipa.com]

Re:What about America? (5, Insightful)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365868)

Why isn't the US on this list?

Come on, lads, we're not trying hard enough!

USA! USA!

Re:What about America? (2)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365338)

Hmmm... I'll try to use US based proxies next time, instead of Canadian ones.

Re:What about America? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365774)

Fucking NIGGERS!!!11!11!111one one one one exclamation point one one

The frozen north.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365070)

Blame Canada!

I'm sorry mr. Ballmer (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365080)

In my country Windows is counted among free software, you mad?

Re:I'm sorry mr. Ballmer (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365242)

Haha... please mod this up, it's funny coz it is true.

speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (4, Insightful)

s4ltyd0g (452701) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365098)

Phoque you eh?

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (2, Insightful)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365120)

Seriously. We have a better and more stringent method for copy protection, and piracy. But we're evil or something. Must be because the 'gov' decided that downloading music isn't evil, or piracy if it's for personal use.

Well that's okay, I don't listen to the shit they have on the radio.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (2, Insightful)

pnewhook (788591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365656)

That's ok that Canada is on the list. The US is on Canada's list of countries harboring war criminals (Bush).

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (4, Insightful)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365890)

The US is on Canada's list of countries harboring war criminals (Bush).

That's a bit harsh. Anyway, everybody knows Bush wouldn't have been found competent to stand trial.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365668)

Which, in my own opinion, it should not be... because in the case of P2P downloading, which is where almost 100% of it actually occurs, one is downloading it from someone who is typically infringing on copyright in the first place, and as a copy of an infringing copy, there is no compelling reason I can think of that the privileges associated with copyrighted works, such as the ability to legally make a private use copy for your own personal use, should actually apply.

But if the court were to rule otherwise, it would be virtually impossible to enforce anyways.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365880)

Well that's okay, I don't listen to the shit they have on the radio.

"Radio"? They play music on the radio up there?

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365124)

And as a Vietnamese to the USTR:

Phuc yieu!

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365128)

As a Canadian, do you have any idea why Canadia ended up on the list? The rest I can understand, with the possible exception of Spain, but Canada? Really?

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365178)

As a Canadian, do you have any idea why Canadia ended up on the list? The rest I can understand, with the possible exception of Spain, but Canada? Really?

Canada is always included on their list of naughty countries. It's some trade association though, so take any of their claims with a mountain of salt.

As usual, Michael Geist's site is refreshingly informative.
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3920/135/ "U.S. List Unfairly Tarnishes Canada's Digital Reputation" from 2009.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (4, Informative)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365198)

This has been a running issue for a few years now. I think it's largely because they want to make an example of Canada to convince them to pass the Canadian version of the DMCA.

Trust (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365432)

It's just hard to trust countries that sell milk in a plastic bag.

Re:Trust (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365508)

well you see the thing is it soaks right through a paper bag

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365208)

Lack of DMCA-type legislation, legal personal use copying (including downloading), and comparatively 'weak' penalties. If you aren't more gung-ho than the US in supporting the RIAA & MPAA you will be on the list.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1, Insightful)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365212)

Because we don't authorize the 16 year old's working at movie theatre's to shoot people videotaping the movies.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365262)

This wikipedia page might shed some light on why Canada made priority watch list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (4, Insightful)

techno_dan (591398) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365434)

I ignore the US on these and many world issues, because they only complain when Oil or money is involved, and only pass laws that increase profit for the few. Since money controls the US government, profit is God, and they will never allow fair use. In Canada, I buy any media, and I can break the encryption so that I can make backups, and also place them on my media server. I never give to others. At the same time, when a new CD comes out, I download some songs for free, and if I like enough of them, then buy the cd. If not, they are deleted. Why, because it is very rare now to hear albums on the radio, and in no way will I pay big bucks for something that ends up having one good track and the rest junk. Some will say "buy individual songs". I would if they were in the lossless format I use. What the world should do, is totally ignore the US. If they stop selling to us, then it is there loss.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365608)

Agreed... half the time its hard even finding the one song you do want, while the rest of the album is garbage, I still buy movies and support the artists I enjoy, but there is only so much money in my pocket; downloading is a way of sifting though the crap and the 1 hit wonders....

Why is it the downloaders fault and not the companies for jacking the prices for everything to obscene levels, and pushing out garbage like its gold? You can buy 3 new movies and pushing a 100+ dollar purchase if your lucky enough not to like foreign films.. then your looking at 40-100 for maybe 4-26 eps. Maybe its not that way in the states but this is just plain rape.

Human Trafficking (5, Interesting)

Oxford_Comma_Lover (1679530) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365912)

I ignore the US on these and many world issues, because they only complain when Oil or money is involved, and only pass laws that increase profit for the few.

Not true; those issues--and complaining, for that matter--just get more press. We put out a watch list for human trafficking, too, as part of the annual Trafficking in Persons Report. (Google it, or look at River of Innocents [riverofinnocents.com] for a good primer on the issue).

The US does care about money and oil, of course--money and oil pay for everything and make everything work, and we want things to work and influential donors care about those things, so so does the government. But those aren't the only things we care about. The Global Health Initiatives, for example, have tremendously increased the quality of life for hundreds of millions of people, yet they rarely make it into the news. For some reason it's not as sexy to prevent Malaria as it is to do another story on Charlie Sheen.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (2)

Steve Newall (24926) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365752)

Looking at the wiki page and the Government of Canada Justice department web site http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/C-42/page-5.html#anchorbo-ga:l_VIII [justice.gc.ca] it looks like copying for private use is NOT piracy. "Copying for Private Use ... onto an audio recording medium for the private use of the person who makes the copy does not constitute an infringement of the copyright in the musical work, the performer’s performance or the sound recording." I guess it's not the file sharers the US doesn't like, it's the Canadian government.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365382)

If the U.S. keeps insisting on treating their friends like shit (now they have predator drones patrolling the Canadian border), I don't know why so many retards there can't figure out why the rest of the world who aren't as close can't fucking stand them.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365446)

Why take a country by force when you can pretend to be an ally while at the same time subverting their sovereignty with bullied-through trade laws and influenced politicians?

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365652)

That's ok. Soon America (Mystery Babylon, Mother of Harlots and the Abominations of the Earth) will get her just rewards. America will be destroyed in 1 hour for her transgressions.

You don't have to believe me... just watch... and dump your American dollars as soon as you can before they become worthless.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365932)

You don't want to dump the dollars... you want to go into a massive debt of American Dollars. That way you get something and the repay value is almost nill

The clock is ticking! [december212012.com]

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365720)

Part of the War On Drugs.
Keeping an eye out for those south of the border heading for northern pharmacies.
We can't let dangerous drugs like insulin be smuggled in to the USA

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (5, Informative)

hawkingradiation (1526209) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365412)

It is because we have legislation in the works (Bill C-32) that the US government, er music and film industry, thinks will help give them more money. So far, it is called the "DMCA of Canada" for good reason. i.e. restriction of breaking digital locks for any reason, and although the Conservative government says it is willing to make modifications based on the input of Canadians, basically it has ignored the input given last summer by thousands of Canadians through "Copyright Consultations" and is pushing ahead. The Liberals (not a swear word here) have proposed modifications such as an Internet levy to pay for artists, however almost none of the money that the CD-levy has actually not gone to the artists themselves. Here is the Bill [parl.gc.ca] , and not is is a lot longer and complex that the original law that we have to today. Our Heritage Minister branded us as "not wanting to modernize Canadian law", because most Canadians who know about the law know that it does not need changing. In fact parts of the Canadian government seem to go lock-step with their US counterparts, with both Prentice (former Industry Minister) and Clement (current Industry Minister) being sent to the US to meet with US government officials about this law as one of the first things they have done when they took office. So to the US who is helping to introduce a law that most Canadians feel is unnecessary: "Go shove it".

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365864)

Yeah, that's basically the situation. The most bizarre thing about Bill C-32 was the way Prentice (relevant minister at the time of the previous version) went into a press conference touting how great it would be for Canadians to be able to legally backup their DVD, CD or other media and transfer it to ipods and other devices. The new provisions in there specifically allowed this, whereas before it was always a grey zone whether it fell under fair dealing or not. When people asked him how it would be possible for people to legally exercise that new right when the proposed revisions simultaneously made it illegal to break the encryption on DVDs, he looked like a deer in the headlights. Either he had no clue that the legislation had contradictions built into it like that, or he didn't understand the question. Either way the new version isn't much better, this legislation has NOT been fully thought through, and although they've tried to blunt some of the stupidity that was in the US DMCA, it's a rather lackluster effort. And this is the third fricking time a revised copyright bill has been proposed via 3 different governments, and it's still not done right, with a decent balance! You'd think they'd get a clue after the ever-increasing amount of critical feedback they've been getting. The simplest solution to the problems of the anti-circumvention portions would be to say: if what you're doing isn't otherwise illegal under copyright law (e.g., what you're doing falls under fair dealing), then the anti-circumvention portions of the law don't apply. People have suggested that over and over again. It's obvious that they simply don't want to roll back some of the more egregious problems, probably because companies don't want any loopholes that might be exploited.

"So to the US who is helping to introduce a law that most Canadians feel is unnecessary: "Go shove it"."

That's not very Canadian.

"Please shove it" would be a more appropriate response.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1)

jrumney (197329) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365488)

As a Canadian, do you have any idea why Canadia ended up on the list?

Filesharing site hotfile.com has its servers there.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1)

hjf (703092) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365512)

As an Argentine, I am offended by your statement.

If Spain is on that list, it's for a reason (Gee, maybe because most of the piracy webs --forums really-- in Spanish are Spain-based? Like, vagos.es for example?)

And if Canada is too, i'm pretty sure there is a reason too.

You know, living west on the northern hemisphere doesn't make you automatically innocent. Same way as the "rest of the world", especially us, down south, aren't all crooks.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365696)

I didn't mean it as any kind of judgement. I was simply working on the basis that the incentive for copyright infringement tends to be much higher in countries with a somewhat lower GDP/capita (but one which is high enough that a decent number of people can still afford computers), and such countries also tend to have a smaller IP export industry, meaning that the governments tend to have more pressing issues driving genuine economic development than chasing after people who may or may not have deprived a foreign company of a few dollars.

None of these apply to Canada, and it is culturally similar to the states (i.e. similar respect or lack thereof for creative work), which is why it struck me as the odd one out. No assumptions of guilt or innocence on anyone's part, just a simple "one of these things is not like the others".

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (5, Informative)

hjf (703092) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365878)

It's not about that, and here goes my usual rant again:

Companies DON'T GIVE A FUCK about countries like mine. We don't have itunes, netflix, lala, pandora, hulu, xbox live, nothing. We also don't have game stores (microsoft doesn't import the xbox 360 or games, so even if you have one, you can't buy games simply because there are no places to buy them). Blockbuster closed too.

Sony does import the PS3 (at USD 800) and games (2-3x the US price).

So in one hand we have a middle class, with money, willing to buy things. In the other hand we have 60-something investors which think we still live in trees and there is no market for their products, and decide just not to sell them, or a very small "luxury" market, like the PS3.

If companies one day decided to start selling their stuff, for a reasonable price, I know people will buy them. How do I know this? Because I have a comic book shop. My customers are mostly teenagers who want the latest Naruto episode, and can get it from free from the internet just hours after it's been released in Japan. We have a local Naruto edition (in paper I mean) and guess what? It sells out.

My dad's friend works at a BMW dealership. They sold all BMWs last year. There is even a waiting list!

I live in a city of 400,000 and I know there are at least 10 dvd rental stores, and even 1 bluray-only rental store. So much for poor people living in trees.

You know what the problem with piracy really is? People selling pirated movies in the street. That's the real problem, but movie studios can't do anything about them, because our government won't. And, you see, people selling pirated movies in the street or not, there are dvd rental stores doing just fine.

Re:speaking as a Canadian to the USTR (2)

AchilleTalon (540925) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365818)

Yes, we are making the short list because our IP laws permit private copy and royalities are collected on blank DVD, CD and a couple of other media and redistributed to the artists as a way to pay them back and recognize at the same time it is impossible to control the phenomenon of file sharing unless we become a totalitarian country, which is not yet in our plans.

What do you guys have against Thailand? (2)

mooingyak (720677) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365100)

The summary lists 12 of the 13, for those who don't want to RTFA, #13 is Thailand.

Re:What do you guys have against Thailand? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365590)

I guess the editors figured 'Eh, Phuket.'

Re:What do you guys have against Thailand? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365766)

I herd women in Thailand are really men who hide the penis !

Thats fukked up !

I know why Thailand is on the list... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365934)

When all the US inspectors are showing the evidence of Child Pornography to their attornies and judges, they are all dumbfounded at why this one little Thailand-American girl can be in so-many different CP movies yet her American website lists here as 2257 compliant: so the US Supreme Court of Kangaroos decided that all the other girls in Thailand are in-fact pirated copies of this 14th-Amendment citizen of the United States and we will not rest until every video-maker including every Thailand penis and Thailand vagina is prosecuted for copyright violation in the fact of mass duplication and delivery.

For proof, /b/ is that'a way...

Go Argentina! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365102)

nuff said.

Where's the Homeland Cred (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365136)

According to the BSA, the "dollar losses" right here in the U.S. are highest overall. Why didn't we make it on to our own list?

Re:Where's the Homeland Cred (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365350)

Because they already have bought all the senators and congressmen they need to push through the legislation they want.

And there are no funds that the state department can withhold from transferring back to the US, to put more pressure on the US to get the FBI to raid more homes to aid in enforcing the civil laws against downloading files.

HAHAHAHAHAHA (4, Insightful)

Hojima (1228978) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365144)

I remember watching a show on knock-off goods sold in China. Some spokesman for Gucci was talking about how they recently made a bust on counterfeit goods and how they potentially earned the company hundreds of thousands of dollars. I couldn't help but laugh at how out-of-touch this dumb-ass was. Does he think honestly think that the country's peasants (who make a big deal out of eating steak with their rice) would save up to buy an authentic Gucci handbag? Similarly, how fucking stupid do you have to be to think that you can stop them from saving money on software. Because that's how they look at it. There are two alternatives in their eyes: free pirated software, and free non-pirated software. No one is going to give two shits about Microsoft's poor employees.

Re:HAHAHAHAHAHA (1)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365260)

Does he think honestly think that the country's peasants (who make a big deal out of eating steak with their rice) would save up to buy an authentic Gucci handbag?

China doesn't just have peasants. It also has nouveau riche [red-luxury.com] .

Re:HAHAHAHAHAHA (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365790)

Yes, but most of the people who could afford a real gucci bag would buy a real one because they wouldn't want to be caught with a fake. Claiming lost sales from knock-offs (of very high-end goods) is like claiming lost sales from piracy. The people who could actually afford and would buy a knock-off couldn't afford a real gucci and likely would never buy it, much like I think a good portion of pirates probably would not buy the item in question otherwise.

Re:HAHAHAHAHAHA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365444)

It's also about protecting the brand equity. If they allow knockoffs to proliferate it reduces the perceived scarcity which gives the brand value.

Re:HAHAHAHAHAHA (1)

mellon (7048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365544)

Bwahahahahahah! As if. There are markets all over Beijing that have so many knock-off goods in them that I have to wonder how they expect to sell them all. Good-looking stuff, too. Trust me, Gucci has not made a dent in the supply with this one bust, and they know it. The point of publicizing the bust is disinformation of some kind. No trademark enforcement body would take this story seriously. Probably the point of the story was to embarrass the Chinese government in hopes of triggering a crackdown, but it'll never happen, because the Chinese people just don't take trademarks seriously. Very sensible of them, if you ask me.

And yes, there are people in China who want to buy real authentic luxury goods. But they would have bought them anyway—there are plenty of stores in Beijing selling real Gucci goods, just down the street from the fakes. If you want real, you go to those stores, not to the knock-off stores.

In related news... (1)

BoberFett (127537) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365176)

In related news, 13 countries have named the US when asked which country's IP laws they don't give a shit about.

Re:In related news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365392)

I really wish Australia was still on that list.

"Free Trade" Agreement my arse.

Re:In related news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365498)

Yeah! Us Aussies need to try harder! Download! Download! Download!

Though we probably can't compete because of our crappy broadband.

Re:In related news... (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365856)

Yeah! Us Aussies need to try harder! Download! Download! Download!

And use US proxies.

What, no Italy? (1)

Fallingwater (1465567) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365182)

What, no Italy?
I'm sincerely shocked.

Cyberbullying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365228)

The Chamberpot of Corruption is at it again, talking clueless politicians like Biden to bully other countries into fucking up their laws -- against the will and the interests of those countries' people.

Basically (4, Insightful)

pizzach (1011925) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365258)

The US is pointing out countries that are most likely consume English content and don't 100% accept US international copyright laws. Mind how I prefixed international copyright laws with US because they are US laws forced on other countries.

Re:Basically (4, Insightful)

starfishsystems (834319) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365570)

Well said!

For a country founded on the concept of "no taxation without representation", the US shows remarkably consistent disregard for the laws of other nations, even when it comes to the basic matter of sovereign self governance. What certain US lobbyists in their wilful ignorance call "copyright piracy" may well be what our laws have been careful to designate as "fair use".

For example, in Canada we pay a levy on blank media. The recording industry insisted on this as compensation for the possibility that such media might be used, not to make original art or to perform filesystem backups, but to record copyrighted material. The government agreed, and consumers paid. Offer, acceptance, exchange of consideration. In this country, that's called a contract. And it's binding. Government and consumers have kept their part of the bargain. Now the industry can keep its.

And if the US counterpart of that industry isn't happy about this state of affairs, well boo fucking hoo. Its shortsightedness and greed is not our problem to solve.

Re:Basically (1)

binaryseraph (955557) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365708)

That is one thing that drives me absolutely crazy about this country- The assumption it has that US law is WORLD law. Frankly it drives me bonkers (especially in much higher profile situations a la wikileaks)

In other words. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365266)

Copyright enforcement (to the level that US corporations are happy with) is costly in many ways. Intelligence is needed for detecting infringements, police is needed for raiding suspects and forensics, and finally judges and prosecutors are needed for each infringement case.

In developing world nations like mine (Argentina), stronger copyright laws are a total waste of taxpayers money that will only benefits foreign media producers.
Added to that, we are already short on policemen and judges (which are already underpaid) , so even if laws such as these were to pass, there would simply not be enough human resources to enforce them. Plain and simple.

The reason why watch lists such as these exist is because media lobbysts realize that countries like mine are no way as poor as, say, Nigeria, so they want a share of the pie, and press the US government to impose trade sanctions o us, while they couldn't care less what our economic and social situation is.

We find these COUNTRIES guilty!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365276)

Ok guys, then here's another one to add to the list: USA

In other words. (1)

goruka (1721094) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365280)

Copyright enforcement (to the level that US corporations are happy with) is costly in many ways. Intelligence is needed for detecting infringements, police is needed for raiding suspects and forensics, and finally judges and prosecutors are needed for each infringement case.
In developing world nations like mine (Argentina), stronger copyright laws are a total waste of taxpayers money that will only benefits foreign media producers.
Added to that, we are already short on policemen and judges (which are already underpaid) , so even if laws such as these were to pass, there would simply not be enough human resources to enforce them. Plain and simple.
The reason why watch lists such as these exist is because media lobbysts realize that countries like mine are no way as poor as, say, Nigeria, so they want a share of the pie, and press the US government to impose trade sanctions o us, while they couldn't care less what our economic and social situation is.

And... (4, Insightful)

kyrio (1091003) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365282)

Not a single fuck was given.

Re:And... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365674)

How is this a troll???

Always knew you couldn't be trusted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365294)

There was something suspicious about so many of you being so close to the border, and how you always poo-pah'ed any defenses.

Yeah, now we're on to you.

Here's our secret plan. We're going to let you have Michigan and Wisconsin. If you wait 4 years you can have Chicago too. You may also take Minnesota but no avoiding district 6.

my story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365296)

So, 4 years ago when I went to buy a laptop at a licensed laptop vendor in my country, it came pre-installed with Debian. At that time, I had no idea about Linux.

So, I told him to install Windows XP Professional for me (for free of course). He was like, "Sure, I will do it and deliver your laptop tomorrow". Sure enough, when he delivered it was as good Windows pre-install.

Where does the US fall... (2)

Macdude (23507) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365298)

... on their own list?

Re:Where does the US fall... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365356)

Ya. I've always wondered if the US gives 2 shits about other's IP, e.g. anime, J/K-pop, korean horror, bollywood, european indie music, indie flicks like OM BAK before they were officially released, etc. Seems hypocritical if you ask me.

Re:Where does the US fall... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365738)

Seems hypocritical if you ask me.

A country that sponsors dictatorships while saying it is pro-democracy is hypocritical? Say it ain't so.

When the US had little to no IP it saw absolutely no problem in copying Europe. I would bet China will be the same, while it's better for them to copy, they will, when that situation changes so will their laws.

Re:Where does the US fall... (1)

ladoga (931420) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365922)

Ya. I've always wondered if the US gives 2 shits about other's IP, e.g. anime, J/K-pop, korean horror, bollywood, european indie music, indie flicks like OM BAK before they were officially released, etc. Seems hypocritical if you ask me.

Ong-bak (2003) doesn't seem so indie to me. Their production company Sahamongkolfilm Co. has produced and distributed more than 30 films between late 90s and the present.

But yes, I think the South America and Asia makes most of the better films nowadays. Last two films I saw were Tropa de Elite 2 (Brazil) and El Aura (Argentina), both were pretty good.

It's been quite some time when I last watched anything from Hollywood. Frankly, I don't care what happens to big studios there. Maybe if they went bust we would start to see some quality American films again. That would be a good thing, eh? What they produce now is just mass consumer goods targeted to dumb people with short attention spans. It's the McDonalds of the movie industry. (emphasis on the word industry)

thousands of Americians on the list (1)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365326)

as they think it is crap to worry about the profits of corporations.

National Pride (5, Insightful)

mdielmann (514750) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365396)

I'm personally proud to see that my country is on the copyright watch list of a country with one of the most broken copyright laws in the world.

But as a Ccanadian (4, Insightful)

future assassin (639396) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365398)

I pay a levy to the artists for the privilege of music piracy. Whether the artists get the money after wards, not my problem. Thank you, come again.

  If you want to help stop piracy only download CC licensed music from site like http://www.ektoplazm.com/ [ektoplazm.com]

Re:But as a Ccanadian (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365894)

thx for linky

http://www.subflow.net/Radio/minimal/?C=M;O=D

what else you got?

CANADA ?? WHAT THE FUCK ?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365428)

How many people can there possibly be stealing shit way up there?

How's the US doing? (2)

b4dc0d3r (1268512) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365438)

I downloaded enough stuff to put us over the top. Do I need to step it up?

Pirate countries (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365486)

They should put a trade ban on those countries, and not allow any imports from them. Just think if we didn't buy from China, India, The phillipines, , Indonesia, maybe we could have more jobs here in the USA

Re:Pirate countries (2)

techno_dan (591398) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365582)

Did you ever think that in the US, many are overpaid? What happened with bettering oneself, instead of relying on unions to prop up salaries? At the rate things are going, the US is going to price themselves out of all exports. Who ever heard of paying bus drivers more than developers? Well in the US, this is normal. Here is another thought, did you ever wonder what would happen if China called in its loans to the US? And more jobs in the US? Har, that's a joke. who could afford anything made in the US? Not even your average citizen could afford that. Educate yourself.

Re:Pirate countries (1)

O('_')O_Bush (1162487) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365716)

Well, nothing would happen. Nobody is out there to enforce the U.S. paying back those loans. World banking organizations might get pissed off, and some of China's allies might as well, but nobody is going to do anything about it. Hell, if the U.S. wanted to throw it's diplomatic relations to the wind (or if China and the U.S. goes to war), it'd be really easy for the U.S. to say, "we aren't paying those loans back. suck it."

Re:Pirate countries (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365916)

Well, nothing would happen. Nobody is out there to enforce the U.S. paying back those loans. World banking organizations might get pissed off, and some of China's allies might as well, but nobody is going to do anything about it. Hell, if the U.S. wanted to throw it's diplomatic relations to the wind (or if China and the U.S. goes to war), it'd be really easy for the U.S. to say, "we aren't paying those loans back. suck it."

You really think that foreign debts are like your mortgage? Downgrade the credit rating for US and nobody will offer money to US: good luck with the trade and budget deficit US is running, hope you can be self-sustaining in a short time otherwise you'll put the trucks on hold and transport whatever food you can by horse carriage.

Re:Pirate countries (1)

artson (728234) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365626)

"They should put a trade ban on those countries,"

Sounds good to me. Could you kindly stop importing oil, electrical power and comedians from Canada?

Oh and kindly stop waving your wee-wee over my cornflakes bowl.

Re:Pirate countries (1)

jonwil (467024) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365662)

That will never happen as long as the president of Wal-Mart has more REAL power than the president in Washington.

Canada? (1)

syncrotic (828809) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365574)

Funny, I haven't seen any bazaars filled with $1 DVDs around here, which is the sort of thing that characterizes the rest of the entries on the list (except possibly Spain).

We have a cable / satellite duopoly for broadcast TV (nobody uses free OTA here; reception is nonexistent for most) that extracts $80-100/month out of almost every Canadian household - the same duopoly that supplies broadband internet to 90% of the population. Our communications regulator is a puppet of said duopoly: it recently approved regulations that dictate that nobody may offer better or cheaper internet service than the incumbents. We have the most expensive broadband and cellular in the developed world, and it's getting more expensive rather than less: the duopoly has started charging punitive rates for overages above caps that are set so low as to make streaming video services impossible to use.

What more does the USTR want? What more does it demand that Canada do to support the content industry's bottom line? Why are American special interests so butthurt over the state of the Canadian content market?

I think I know: no private citizen has gone before a court in this country over a copyright violation. Our court system doesn't permit the procedural tricks that allow thousands of people of unknown identity to be sued. Hollywood can't stand this.

Canada ?!? (1)

meerling (1487879) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365598)

Really? Worthy of some kind of priority piracy watchlist? Canada? I guess the Carebears are on a priority terrorism watchlist.

Re:Canada ?!? (1)

mjwx (966435) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365846)

Really? Worthy of some kind of priority piracy watchlist? Canada? I guess the Carebears are on a priority terrorism watchlist.

Anything, and I mean fucking anything that can shoot beams of light out of it's stomach had better be on that watch list.

What is this, every 6 months? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365642)

Seriously. Last time this stuff came out the basis was found to be pretty bogus and arbitrary.

We do have copyright law. People get prosecuted on the basis of those laws.

But, no, we do not have to implement something equally as stupid as the US DMCA. Get over it. And if that means we get on some "USA copyright naughty list", fine. Oh, and I have news for you: not everyone in the USA is particularly happy with the overly broad rights and controls that are granted to copyright holders in the USA either, such as the anti-circumvention provisions that can be used to discourage free market competition, and the indefinite copyright extension every couple of decades. Thanks to the experience in the USA we can be aware of these problems, and don't have to implement our laws exactly the same way. Just because the legislators in your country have been bought by copyright holders and ignored their duty to preserve the public domain and user rights side of the issue doesn't mean we have to do the same.

I am proud that my country is on this list (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365648)

I was selling CDs from a pirate stand near a Moscow subway station when I was a schoolboy. I'm glad that my efforts weren't for nothing. It is great to see my modest contribution bearing it's fruits!

Good luck with Argentina (3, Informative)

Isaac Remuant (1891806) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365660)

The perpetual financial crisis in this country along with the lack of moral condemnation makes it a haven of piracy. I'd say that 90 % of desktop computers have ilegal windows and those include many medium-sized companies and goverment instituitons. Those that pay liscenses basically do it in response to fines from possible inspections (or use Linux).

The 300-plus-page report provides several pages of analysis for each country. As an example, it cites Argentina as having seen 965 percent growth in Internet usage over the last 10 years, with 26 million users (64 percent of the population) now online. Of the entire digital music market in Argentina, piracy represents a staggering 99 percent, with more than 1.25 billion songs downloaded illegally every year.

There's a 4 to 1 relation between the US dollar and the Argentinian Peso and the average citizen earns much less than first world countries. The cost of life is permanently increasing.

Taringa.net -- hosted in Argentina; Alexa rank of 116; 7,155 sites linking in, with its biggest audience from Mexico.

This is the best example. It's the iconic webpage in Argentina for a lot of things and one of those things is file sharing. Everyone who needs certain software knows that the fastest way of getting access to it will probably be to search on that site. People compete for points in a very well thought social system (it includes games and more). Normal people get sucked into this "reputation" thing and become average posters.

Taringa, in essence, doesn't do anything ilegal because it only has links to hosting sites.

From the PDF

Rampant piracy in Argentina remains a very low priority for the government and
many of its enforcement authorities

In a country of political turmoil and widespread corruption online piracy is not an issue. Specially when Argentina doesn't have many affected companies or services.

Regarding the priority actions. Their goals are unrealistic. Many people are hungry and below the line of poverty. If the US wants to provide aid for the goverment, humanitarian needs are closer to what the goverment might look at.

If they think that pressuring Argentina with bonuses or threats is going to affect this particular line of goverment, they are blatantly wrong. Relations with the US over economy matters are not good after many years of struggles with the International Monetary Fund.

Tl,DR: Argentinians, used to pay overpriced goods with their low wages don't see any moral problem getting things they'd probably wouldn't be able to have if they didn't resort to piracy and, besides, everyone else does it.

Arg Gov won't budge in an election year to the likes of USA when there has been no evidence in the past years that this was beneficial (ie: IMF regulations)

forgive the typos and related grammatical horrors. It's late.

The list is malformed (4, Insightful)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365710)

An accurate list of piracy must consider theft from the public domain, and robbing future generations of freedom to use their cultural heritage as they see fit.

The USA is #1 on that list.

To get off that list, the US should extradite all MPAA and RIAA to the Hague, as well as those U.S. Congressmen and Presidents who bought by copyright extremists.

Re:The list is malformed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365914)

An accurate list of piracy must consider theft from the public domain, and robbing future generations of freedom to use their cultural heritage as they see fit.

The USA is #1 on that list.

To get off that list, the US should extradite all MPAA and RIAA to the Hague, as well as those U.S. Congressmen and Presidents who bought by copyright extremists.

And give them a free flight on the taxpayers dime to a country with a reasonable legal system, fiber to the door cheap broadband, and legal cannabis?

My vote would be extradition to a place where survival is a hard enough without the likes of copyright law. South Pole anyone?

Miracle! (1)

snookiex (1814614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365724)

This should be the first time Colombia is not in a blacklist made by the US

blame the world (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365726)

so after a few minutes on google it seems that they've put about half (3,225 million) of the world population (6,775 million) on their must watch list. I'm not going to look for the population of the other 27 countries but it wouldn't surprise me if it totals 6,470 million people which is the worlds population minus the USA population.

I figure I'm in good company (Canada)

US behind an Iron Curtain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365854)

Now denizens of the US know what it feels like to peer from behind an Iron Curtain at the Free World, which includes countries like Vietnam and China.

Australia? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365876)

I'm surprised that Australia didn't make that list, with how hard US Studios are trying to hit our No.2 ISP in the courts at the moment.

Piracy may be Prohibition for our era (1)

mykos (1627575) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365920)

It seems to be happening all over the internet and in courtrooms. I think something big is brewing. There is more attention than ever on piracy, with publishers blaming everything on pirates, and pirates blaming everything on publishers.

There may be something amiss with our current laws, seeing as how everyone is upset about them on both sides of the argument. I have a feeling the anti-piracy crowd isn't going to get what they want just because of the sheer numbers of people who are either apathetic about the issue or just like getting free stuff without going to prison for it.

It's like Prohibition. When you have a couple hundred million people engaged in an activity that they have no moral problem with, they're going to obtain what they want regardless of the law. You can't imprison everyone (at least, not without a police state), and you can't change legislate someone's morality.

They anti-piracy groups do have money though, and it's not secret that money buys you laws in the United States, so they may be able swing the lawmakers in their favor. They are the benefactors of piracy prohibition. Much like the mafia families who derived a good chunk of their fortunes from selling a product at a high price, they too have their prices protected by government intervention, just from a different angle.

IIPA = Not US Government (1)

mutherhacker (638199) | more than 3 years ago | (#35365928)

The IIPA is NOT the US Government. It's a private organization, hence the title of the story is misleading.

A quote from their website: "IIPA is a private sector coalition, formed in 1984, of trade associations representing U.S. copyright-based industries..."

Uncorruptable list (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35365938)

Hmm, this list is the countries that could not be bought (yet).

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