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Hands On With Apple IPad 2

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the thinner-is-better-right dept.

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adeelarshad82 writes "Yesterday's announcement of the second-generation iPad showed exactly why there was so much excitment around the device. As the video hands on shows, iPad 2 makes up for all the things lacking in the original iPad. The 1GHz dual-core A5 chip does justice to apps like Photo Booth and over all user experience. Moreover, while the screen carries the same resolution, Apple was able to pack it in a noticably thinner iPad 2. Infact its dimensions, 13.4 mm to 8.8mm thick, make it 33% thinner than iPhone 4. Also while the cameras aren't HD, the inclusion itself provides an opportuntiy for Facetime, which is actually more interactive than what we've seen so far on other Apple devices."

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Not enough (1, Insightful)

ewe2 (47163) | more than 3 years ago | (#35370918)

Personally, I'm waiting for iPad 3.5, when it will really be finished!

RE: Not enough (2, Informative)

recoiledsnake (879048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371056)

iPad 3.5 will probably come with Palladium 3.5, where even sites like Youtube will be charged for streaming to iDevice users.

Already, Netflix, Kindle, etc. are on the chopping block on the App Store unless they pay up 30% of the user's fees to Apple. Want to read your Kindle books or Netflix movies on the iPad? Be forced to pay up to cover Apple's tax. The best thing is that according to Apple's rules, the price has to be same for other devices too, so even if you don't use the iDevices, expect your prices to go up because of Apple's policies.

Readability was kicked off the App Store for failing to pay up http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/21/apples_rejection_of_readability_ios_app_stirs_subscription_controversy.html [appleinsider.com]

Before you mod me overrated/flamebait/troll etc. maybe reply to tell me why you're doing so?

Re: Not enough (3, Informative)

dwightk (415372) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371122)

Readability was kicked off the App Store for failing to pay up

heh, Readability (the company that charges 30% of revenue to publishers of content) was quoted about Apple's (the company that charges 30% of revenue to publishers of content) policy: it "smacks of greed"

Re: Not enough (1)

N1AK (864906) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371180)

Readability doesn't charge publishers. How ignorant or desperate are you? They offer users the ability to change the layout of content they already have access to. Additionally, the biggest issue people have with what Apple are doing isn't the charge, it is the fact that it is mandatory.

I've been really impressed by the new iPad. I'd snap one up in a second if I didn't dislike Apple's controlling nature and the fanboyism so prevalent among its customers.

Re: Not enough (2, Insightful)

oh_my_080980980 (773867) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371202)

Yeah it's not Like Microsoft or Google doesn't have fanboys. *rolls eyes*

Re: Not enough (2)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371226)

Readability doesn't charge publishers. How ignorant or desperate are you?

Want a bet [readability.com] ?

Re: Not enough (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371294)

I'll take you up on that bet since it seems your skills at reading comprehension fall short.

They don't charge publishers, they pay publishers. They offer a free and paid membership for readers, a portion of the paid membership going to the publishers of the articles you read.

Did you actually read the link you posted?

Re: Not enough (2)

dwightk (415372) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371504)

In the same way Apple doesn't charge, they pay.

I fail to see the difference, perhaps I'm ignorant.

Re: Not enough (1)

dwightk (415372) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371316)

I will admit that I could be ignorant. I'm not deperate.

Readability takes 30% of the money they make and passes 70% on to publishers. That's what their website says: "70% of all Readability membership fees go directly to writers and publishers." https://www.readability.com/publishers [readability.com] . Did they change that and not change their site?

Re: Not enough (5, Informative)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371398)

Readability doesn't charge publishers. How ignorant or desperate are you?

No, but they collect membership fees and revert 70% of these to the writers. 30% agency fees, for doing exactly squat besides rebranding and reformatting the content, would be considered exorbitant and unconscionable in just about any other business.

I work with a lot of independent filmmakers and the "Readability" model has been with them for the last 10 years or so -- small fly-by-night "distributors" who take a huge cut of revenue and fees in exchange for making your movie available on their shitty burn-on-demand DVD website and offering it, with zero promotion and for bargain-basement prices on iTunes and Movielink and iFilm and all the other crap distribution channels that have come and gone the last decade. They're slimeballs and all they care about is putting themselves in-between artists and eyeballs, and doing as little as possible for their fees.

Re: Not enough (2)

kevinNCSU (1531307) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371212)

he best thing is that according to Apple's rules, the price has to be same for other devices too, so even if you don't use the iDevices, expect your prices to go up because of Apple's policies.

I'm not a fan of Apple but I think that's a misinterpretation. The rule is that the Apple device user has to be charged the same price if they buy the service outside the app store. So really all companies would have to do would be to add an extra fee on their site to enable streaming to i-devices, right?

Re: Not enough (2)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371266)

They've been on the chopping block for several weeks now and nothing has happened. For example, the latest version of the Kindle app [apple.com] was published on the App Store on the 14th and has been downloadable to this day. Apple's made no statements about how they're going to apply these rules to Netfilx and Kindle, and all we can do is extrapolate.

All we have is one data point from a frustrated vanity publisher who's upset, really, because it's not him getting that 30% instead of Apple. He wants to pretend he's the "content provider" when the independent writer's he's fleecing are doing all the writing and Apple is doing all legwork with the distribution, making the mobile devices and making electronic reading an actual going proposition. All he is is a middleman trying to get his cut for doing nothing more than running a website and doing "classy" branding.

Re: Not enough (1)

TrancePhreak (576593) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371414)

The rules don't get enforced until June. So really we're still a ways from seeing what will really happen.

Re: Not enough (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371436)

Then what's this all about then, if Readability got rejected a week and a half ago under the same rule?

Readability has been resubmitted (1)

rsborg (111459) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371664)

It's not clear how this will shake out. Apple's position is not tenable without some clearer wording and compromises. As it stands, they are looking to cut their nose to spite their face... but Apple isn't stupid or crazy and they are probably well aware that their unmodified policy could damage their ecosystem, entice government regulation, and spoil their brand.

My take: they will clarify the rules and target the Amazon (and possibly Netflix) model of apps, while leaving others with minor/no impact... if they don't they might well have just created a reason for App devs to jump ship and formulate a 2nd platform.

Re:Not enough (4, Funny)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371088)

I think iPad 3.11 for workgroups will be good enough for me.

Re:Not enough (1)

Trev311 (1161835) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371642)

I'm waiting for iPad for Workgroups 3.11. You know the ENTERPRISE edition.

WHAT? (2)

stanlyb (1839382) | more than 3 years ago | (#35370920)

What??? iPad is lacking FEATURES!!!! Common, are you some troll :P

Dup (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 3 years ago | (#35370922)

Product was covered yesterday. This is an article about a review.

Re:Dup (2)

maxume (22995) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371030)

There's a link to yesterday's article right there in the summary, so there may have been some awareness and intention behind this posting.

makes up for all the things lacking in original... (2, Insightful)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35370924)

Well, except for Flash support and user expandable memory...

Does the Bluetooth support an external mouse and keyboard?

Re:makes up for all the things lacking in original (2)

VolciMaster (821873) | more than 3 years ago | (#35370966)

I used an Apple bluetooth keyboard with a friend's iPad last summer

Re:makes up for all the things lacking in original (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35370994)

Does the Bluetooth support an external mouse and keyboard?

Yes. [apple.com] Well, they keyboard at least. (Why would you use a mouse with it?)

Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desires (2, Insightful)

DavidinAla (639952) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371062)

I've been using a bluetooth keyboard with my iPad since last spring, when the iPad took the place of my laptop. I wouldn't know about a mouse, because there's no need for a mouse with it. The Flash issue has been covered to death. You either understand why its exclusion is a good thing or you don't, so there's nothing to add there. As for user-expandable memory, I can't figure out why people bring this up. It's a trade-off. There are certain advantages to having sealed, fixed memory, and it's a tradeoff to get them. If you don't want those advantages, buy a product that requires the user to manipulate a file system, but you're NOT going to see those in iOS products. Period.

Re:Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desi (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371158)

You either understand why its exclusion is a good thing or you don't

...don't greedily drink the white Kool-Aid from Uncle Steve's "special dispenser", that is.

iTard.

Re:Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desi (0)

kevinNCSU (1531307) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371254)

That sounds starkly familiar.....

As for [multi-threading], I can't figure out why people bring this up. It's a trade-off. There are certain advantages to having [only one program running] and it's a tradeoff to get them. If you don't want those advantages, buy a product that requires the user to [recharge their device more often], but you're NOT going to see those in iOS products. Period.

Re:Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desi (5, Funny)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371330)

There are certain advantages to having sealed, fixed memory, and it's a tradeoff to get them.

I absolutely agree! I'll list some for the detractors:

  • Nobody can open your iPad and steal your RAM, leaving the iPad a useless husk.
  • There's no chance of accidentally putting in the wrong RAM and causing a short.
  • You can avoid the classic "My kids thought the VCR was a toaster" situation. No young'uns will try to make Ritz Cracker toast on your RAM slot!
  • The chances of cutting yourself on the sharp edges of RAM are vastly reduced.
  • Everything comes in one convenient package. There's no costs to upgrade the iPad, ever! (Because you can't.)

Re:Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371610)

-Sturdier.

-Cheaper.

-Smaller / thinner.

-Lighter.

You're right, these aren't compelling reasons at all for a hand-held device.

Re:Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desi (5, Insightful)

vux984 (928602) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371546)

You either understand why its exclusion is a good thing or you don't, so there's nothing to add there.

Wow. That's some arrogance. Did you really mean to say: "Either you agree with apple, or you are wrong."

There are certain advantages to having sealed, fixed memory

Can you actually name any that are relevant?

Not having to manipulate a file system isn't one by the way. My car stereo handles CDs, mp3 disks, flash memory, and ipods, and all the complicated file system stuff is completely invisible... I just push the source button. I guess that would be too overwhelming for an iDevice user?

Another example is the Nintendo Wii file system management which a 4 year old has no trouble with.

Meanwhile the multiple advantages of removable storage however are blindingly obvious.

Arguing about the trade-offs of expandable/removable storage its about as idiotic as as arguing about the trade offs of wearing a motorcycle helmet. (In that yes, there are circumstances where not having a helmet on would be advantageous... but the disadvantages thoroughly outweigh any advantages.)

but you're NOT going to see those in iOS products

This same arguments about how you didn't need were made about native application development and multi-tasking...

The main reason there is no expandable memory is that:
a) Steve Job's obsessively hates slots and buttons, and is more than willing to sacrifice function to get form.

b) If you can slide in your own 8GB SD card for $50, why would you pay hundreds of dollars extra for one with extra memory?

Two corrections... (4, Informative)

moosehooey (953907) | more than 3 years ago | (#35370928)

1. It is 33% thinner than the first iPad. It is also thinner than the iPhone 4, but only slightly.

2. The rear camera is, in fact, HD.

Re:Two corrections... (3, Funny)

killmenow (184444) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371144)

...It is also thinner than the iPhone 4...

Yeah, but does it have an app that will build you an island and fucking transform it into a jet and fly you there?

Re:Two corrections... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371248)

...It is also thinner than the iPhone 4...

Yeah, but does it have an app that will build you an island and fucking transform it into a jet and fly you there?

Don't be silly!

You can go and get an app that shows how to build one out of coconut husks, banana peals, and bamboo using the coconut and palm oil for fuel.

But, for the heterosexual iPad user, there's an app on how to get a 1960's era Mary Anne to be with you on that island with no fucking jet so she can't leave and the app that shows you how to make be a sexual pleasing mute.

Re:Two corrections... (2)

jbarr (2233) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371184)

"2. The rear camera is, in fact, HD."

True, but don't let the "HD" label fool you. Yes, it is 720p resolution for video, and comparable video on the iPod Touch 4G is quite respectable and decent. But resolution will also be 720p for stills as well--similar to the camera specs of the iPod Touch 4G--something like .7 mega pixel. (Yes, that's "point seven".) The resolution will be a far cry from the iPhone's 5 mega-pixel resolution.

As a long-time iPod Touch owner, and current iPod Touch 4G owner, I can say that ANY camera on an iPod Touch has proven to be useful, and I speculate the same will be for iPad users.

Re:Two corrections... (5, Funny)

itsdapead (734413) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371332)

True, but don't let the "HD" label fool you. Yes, it is 720p resolution for video, and comparable video on the iPod Touch 4G is quite respectable and decent. But resolution will also be 720p for stills as well

Which is fine for video calling, barcodes and getting an image when you don't have anything else. Plus, lower resolution often translates to better low light performance and lower noise. For taking proper photos, use a proper camera with a lens bigger than a baby's thumbnail. Even a phone is better ergonomically than a 10" fondleslab.

Re:Two corrections... (2)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371498)

Even a phone is better ergonomically than a 10" fondleslab.

Fondleslab? Oh, god, that's brilliant. It almost sounds like faux-German. Bravo, sir.

However, I own a 1st gen iPad, and I also own a good quality DSLR plus a small digital point-and-shoot -- for me, I can't imagine why anybody would *want* a camera in that device, but someone must because it's one of the things I see people bitching about the most. Then again, my cell phone is used only for, well, phone calls ... and even then, not very often.

The device may not be what you want, but for the stuff I use it for, I actually find it to fit my needs quite well.

I'm interested in seeing the gen-2, but except for the dual processors there's very little in there I find overly compelling. And, even the dual processor isn't something which I particularly care about.

Re:Two corrections... (1, Insightful)

jdastrup (1075795) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371230)

Am I the only one who gets annoyed when someone claims a camera or a display is HD? HD means nothing. There is resolution. It can be higher or lower relative to another resolution. When does a particular relative resolution become HD? The marketers seem to have that one nailed down. And that's not even considering overall picture quality, bit depth, bitrate, lens quality, aperture, light sensitivity, etc. Plenty of "HD" cameras on phones take crappy pictures.

Re:Two corrections... (1)

mikestew (1483105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371368)

HD means nothing.

No, "HD" has meaning [wikipedia.org] . The wikipedia article even defines it relative to other resolutions. Did you just not bother to look and see if there's a spec for "HD"?

Re:Two corrections... (1)

jdastrup (1075795) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371492)

Read the very first line of the article you linked. "...any video system of higher resolution that standard-definition.." higher = Relative. Then it goes on to list the "common" resolutions regarded as high definition. Still, no standard, just commonly accepted resolutions. According to that definition I can send you a picture; grainy, blurry, dull, complete crap, but if it's 1280x720 pixels, then it is HD. Apple might as well take the CMOS out of my 12-year old first digital camera that's 1 Megapixel - It's HD!!

Re:Two corrections... (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371536)

You probably are. If you'd been around before HD, you would probably remember that HD is at least one million pixels - well, at least "nominally" one million. You can argue about which side of 1M matters, but 720p (720x1280=920k) is HD, - you can thank the TV guys who advertised that a 12" TV screen was really 13" because the tub was that size, you just couldn't see it since there was a bezel in the way.

If you want to know my feeling, interlaced video had no business existing past about 1975, so I've always hated 1080i, and felt is was actually inferior to 720p.

Re:Two corrections... (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371652)

Am I the only one who gets annoyed when someone claims a camera or a display is HD?

Yes. The rest of your kind died out at the turn of the century.

And not to mention... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35370942)

...it inspires impartial and unbiased Slashdot articles!

Re:And not to mention... (1)

Nikker (749551) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371434)

We would tolerate nothing less!

Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (4, Interesting)

chispito (1870390) | more than 3 years ago | (#35370946)

What about an SD card slot or USB port?

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371024)

these are available through the main apple i/o connector with the camera connection kit. it includes adapter for standard usb 2.0 and adapter for SD card. USB comes with complete support for larger variety of of photo and video camera's including iPhone. It is also works with a variety of keyboards and headphones.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371090)

so like all apple things, for $20-40 extra you can do what most normal tablets would be expected to do...

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (3, Insightful)

alen (225700) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371120)

so where are these tablets with the same or better specs than the iPad but cheaper price?

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (1)

MachDelta (704883) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371540)

They're called netbooks :)

*ducks*

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (1)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371156)

No different then the Xoom. For only $55, and a call to cancel service you didn't need, you can have WiFi on your new Honeycomb tablet. ($20 mandatory one month 3g service to enable WiFi + $35 activation fee for said 3G service).

I appreciate Apple more for not charging for WiFi, vs Google and Motorola allowing Verizon to charge for WiFi.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371362)

But the Xoom DOES do SD cards and USB out of the box, so...

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (2)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371464)

Actually, no, the Xoom doesn't do SD cards out of the box. It has a slot, but the OS ignores it.

And sure, it has a USB port that lets you add content to the device. Out of the box the iPad also comes with a cable with USB on one end that does the same, and also charges the device. The Xoom's USB doesn't charge. So whats the benefit of it over the iPad?

People keep demanding USB, but they never quantify why.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (1)

ceeam (39911) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371502)

It DOES have a microSD card slot, but it DOES NOT work (at least yet, maybe we should wait for 4.0 or something).

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371578)

so like all apple things, for $20-40 extra you can do what most normal tablets would be expected to do...

well... at least your not paying $20-$40 just to unlock the wfi port

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (2)

fermion (181285) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371432)

To many people having hundred ports, 30 access ports, and a 20" screen is what makes a computer. For those people Apple is not the choice. I don't often need all these ports that everyone else does. I usually only hook up my computer to zero or one monitors, and if I do use a monitor I usually leave the dongle attached to the monitor. I don't need more than two USB ports, and the only thing I miss on the some macs is the FireWire port so that I can connect high speed devices.

The real problem with the iPad is the lack of a file system that can be used to transfer documents between computers and the tablet. This is going to be a big problem. Basically, as on a Mac, the iPad should be able to synch with an WebDav server. For those us who use this, the USB and the like are much less critical.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (3, Interesting)

killmenow (184444) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371092)

You beat me to it. Those two things right there contribute to making the iPad a no go in our corporate environment even though some of our senior management loves the shiny things. USB Host port plz. And not via a fscking apple port adapter. Put a native USB port and native SD slot (with HC and preferably XC support) and a native HDMI out on the sucker. Then maybe we'll get the SDK, port some bespoke apps and start equipping our sales reps with these things.

Until then, hey, they're cool for checking the weather forecast from my couch.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (-1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371260)

You will never get a Video out from iPad. The analog hole due to headphones can't be closed, but no content creator would agree for an anlog hole in video stream. In fact the disaster of Vista could be traced to Microsoft's attempt to create a "protected audio path" and "protected video path". They can't be implemented without signed drivers. (Even with signed drivers, one could hack it but that is a different story). Signed drivers made so many existing devices incompatible. Though this is not the single cause for Vista's failure, it contributed significantly to the delay and poor quality drivers and incompatibility issues.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (2)

kevinmenzel (1403457) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371306)

It's not like device manufacturers didn't literally have YEARS to get their drivers in order for Vista. YEARS.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (2)

MMC Monster (602931) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371460)

Errr... Apple sells a video out cable for the iPad. I bought it. Kinda useless unless you're going on a trip and want to watch TV on the hotel screen, but it does exist.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371470)

You will never get a Video out from iPad.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC953ZM/A?fnode=MTc0MjU4NjE&mco=MTc5OTU4MjA (HDMI)
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC748ZM/A?fnode=MTc0MjU4NjE&mco=MTc5MzExNjI (Composite)
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC917ZM/A?fnode=MTc0MjU4NjE&mco=MTc0Njk4NzA (Component)
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC552ZM/A?fnode=MTc0MjU4NjE&mco=MTc0Mzg2NTE (VGA)

Yeah, never going to get video output from that.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (3, Insightful)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371322)

WTF are you letting your people put removable storage into your devices? I thought that was phased out a decade ago to keep virii from jumping on the corporate network. And what are you going to use it for - it all comes with wireless N, email and a web browser that can be pointed to your internal server. You're not going to get any faster transfer with a marketing USB dongle (that is usually dog slow) or a class 6 (or even class 10) SD card. I suppose I can buy the HDMI thing, but you're going to have to carry a dongle for that VGA connection anyway, and presuming you even allow Macs on your network they already have to carry an adapter to go from DP to, well, anything useful.

Now, if you want to complain about having to install iTunes on your corporate machines - THAT is, imho, a real issue.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (3, Interesting)

killmenow (184444) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371570)

The business case for the iPad (in our company anyway) would include (a) running bespoke apps to hook into our transaction processing system so reps in the field could enter orders from customer premises directly and/or query order/inventory status for customers while on site, and (b) giving presentations while on site at customers. Most projectors accept hdmi in. As is, via the adapter they could show presentations with projectors but it's yet one more type of specialized cable they have to keep track of instead of a relatively cheap standard short HDMI cable. And it's a PITA and stupid and one more way Apple tries to nickle and dime you, imho.

The removable storage is less for putting things ON the damn thing and more for getting things OFF of it. Like after you've given your presentation and the customer says that was great can you copy it to my USB thumb drive here so I can show it to the CEO later. Yes, you can just say "I'll email it to you" but many e-mail systems limit the size of attachments to 10MB or under and some large presentations and PDFs with lots of embedded images go over that but still well under the limits of even the smallest USB thumb drives. Also, SD card for holding/loading said bespoke apps in standardized/manageable ways, etc.

I can't imagine we'd put iPads directly on our corporate network. But most of our salespeople do have laptops and VPN connections. Replacing those with something smaller, lighter, still able to get e-mail on and run necessary apps and give presentations and do the things they do now...that is also less easy for them to get "YOU HAVE A VIRUS! CLICK HERE TO GIVE US YOUR CREDIT CARD INFO!!!!" phishing trojan crap on is desirable. But iPads don't really fit the bill as of right now.

Plus, considering our corporate web site is now flash heavy (don't blame me, I tried but it's out of my control), it'd be kind of stupid to give our salespeople devices that couldn't even pull up our own company's web site. (Oh...and you're 100% right about iTunes.)

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371370)

plz? fscking? face it, you spend more time in your mom's basement than making corporate decisions. Fuck off and die, lamer.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (1)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371524)

What is the corporate need for actual USB, actual SD and actual HDMI ports on the device? What features would each one bring that the adaptors can't bring that make them mandatory for corporate use?

USB is the most puzzling one to me, since noone ever explains what they want with it. Do you want a USB host port, or a slave port, or both? Which connector? What devices do you then expect to attach to it?

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (1)

mblase (200735) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371620)

USB is the most puzzling one to me, since noone ever explains what they want with it. Do you want a USB host port, or a slave port, or both? Which connector? What devices do you then expect to attach to it?

I assume they want to read/write files from a USB flash drive.

From Apple's POV, though, I imagine the problem with USB or SD card slots is the same as that for the user-replaceable battery: thickness would have to increase. Frankly, I'm surprised the current one has room for the dock connector.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371646)

USB is the most puzzling one to me, since noone ever explains what they want with it. Do you want a USB host port, or a slave port, or both? Which connector? What devices do you then expect to attach to it?

I would like to use a real USB keyboard and mouse, which I already own. I would also like to pop in a flash drive, and read and write it without needing any extra hardware. I don't think that's a lot to ask.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (1)

ideaz (1981092) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371450)

I dont think that Apple will ever launch anything with removable storage on it. Don't know why but its seems so from the past. They tried to safeguard every possible potential vulnerable path.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (1)

repetty (260322) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371660)

I dont think that Apple will ever launch anything with removable storage on it.

You don't seem to be familiar with Apple products. You should probably refrain from posting about them.

I'm not going to waste my time doing your research for you.

Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (1)

H0p313ss (811249) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371592)

This was already made available by the camera kit in version 1. What is lacking is the driver support.

Hands On With Apple IPad 2 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35370948)

Giggity?

meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35370950)

less space than a xoom. no wireless. lame.

Re:meh (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35370980)

Much like Taco's iPod comment, I predict people won't care and will be happy to buy and use them.

Re:meh (4, Informative)

itsenrique (846636) | more than 3 years ago | (#35370996)

Much like the sound of the wind, I predict that joke went right over your head.

Re:meh (0)

alen (225700) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371014)

i've been burned buying on specs, most notably the sega 32X and genesis compared to the SNES

as an android and iOS user, the apple app store is much better than the android market for most people. i agree that the hot chick's asses live wallpaper is cool for some, but for most people they prefer the simplicity of the iPad.

even as a geek i recommend iPhone over android to non-techie people. the only reason i tell them to buy android is that you can get a nice phone for free on contract

Error in summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35370952)

The iPad 2 is 33% thinner than the original iPad. It's thinner than the iPhone 4, but not 33%.

A review of a video demo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35370976)

How desperate can we be?

But has it appeased Hitler? (5, Funny)

Lead Butthead (321013) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371134)

Truely, if it is perfect, we should not expect another Hitler Rant video...

Re:But has it appeased Hitler? (2)

H0p313ss (811249) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371476)

The appropriate Hitler rant here would be the CEO's of the competitors who have not even managed to compete with the iPad1, and here's Apple shipping version 2 before half the competitors have their tablets shipping.

I Like this guy's iPad 2 better. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371168)

iPad 2 Review - Hands On [HD] 17th of February 2011:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct1_r_61sk8

Fact Checking Anyone? (1)

ptifan23 (2008234) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371172)

Wow, could this article be any more wrong? The iPad 2 is 33% thinner than the iPad 1, not the iPhone 4. Also, the rear camera is indeed HD.

Re:Fact Checking Anyone? (1)

mindstormpt (728974) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371282)

"Yesterday's announcement of the ninth-generation iPed showed exactly why there was so much excitment around the device. As the video hands on shows, iPed 8 makes up for all the things lacking in the original iPed. The 1THz eigth-core A9 chip does justice to apps like Video Booth and over all user experience. Moreover, while the screen carries even more resolution, Orange was able to pack it in a noticably thinner iPed 5. Infact its dimensions, 1.34 mm to 0.88mm thick, make it 93% thinner than a sheet of paper. Also while the cameras are 4K, the inclusion itself provides an opportuntiy for Fecetime, which is actually more interactive than what we've seen so far on other Tomato devices."

Looks like it could be wronger.

ram????? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371174)

i just want to know what the RAM is in the thing

Re:ram????? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371438)

The exact same as was in the original iPad.

WTH Apple? (Pre-Orders) (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371220)

Ok... I saved my pennies, nickels and dollars for the new iPad. Even gave up on getting the old one for free as a possible XMAS gift. Well now that iPad 2 if officially for sale, I want to buy/order mine now. Well one would think that should be easy enough. Go to the store in person or the online store. Well, I tried both and no luck. So, I gave Apple a day to get their online store sorted out and even called one of their stores. The word from the stores is that you need to check web site to have any chance of ordering one. Otherwise, you are stuck in the cattle gates in front of the Apple stores for their "5pm" sale time on 3/11. 5pm on a Friday WTH Apple?

So I chatted with someone on the Apple Online store and they confirmed that no preorders of any kind and it will be first-come first-server on 3/11. Their "reasoning" seems to be that they had a lot of problems with pre-orders last time and this should solve the problem. Well, I don't know about that.. but my guess is that their is possibly a distribution/production issue where they do not want a million orders at once or they want some big PR with long lines. I don't know.. but Apple is really trying my patients with this move and making me think long and hard about this purchase.

Re:WTH Apple? (Pre-Orders) (1)

dmacleod808 (729707) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371384)

Apple is making me "long and hard" with this device as well.

The razor wire (3, Insightful)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371272)

topping the walled garden is now 33% sharper too.

Say what you will but the iPad kept its value... (1)

Phizzle (1109923) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371342)

I bought my iPad 64GB Wi-Fi+3G on day one it was available. A month ago, in anticipation of the iPad 2, I sold it for only 50 bucks less than the price I paid. I cant think of any other brands notebook, netbook, computer, smartphone or pad that comes even close to holding its value this well for this long. iPad2 preordered :)

Re:Say what you will but the iPad kept its value.. (2)

FatAlb3rt (533682) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371568)

P.T. Barnum is still smiling.

I will wait for the iPad 3, 4 or even 5. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371402)

1. Still needs a better display like Retina Display.

2. An SD card slot of some sort. I understand streaming content to the device but being so mobile I would like to take with me and my content too.

3. USB port, thunderbolt type of connection.

        The card slot and connection port need to be fully & smoothly integrated into the body.

4. Finally a real GPS with off-line maps. none of this A-GPS crap. 90% of the time I need a map I am no where near any internet connection type.

Following the micro step improvements that Apple tends to do there product line I suspect slight improvement (not full blown implementation) of each item. So by the 5th or 6th version the feature will be acceptable for my purchasing dollars. in the mean time the competition is coming on strong and will have all I want in just a year or two, although lacking the 10 million fart apps.

Time will tell.

Re:I will wait for the iPad 3, 4 or even 5. (1)

mini me (132455) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371626)

Finally a real GPS with off-line maps

A-GPS is real GPS. The difference is that it can use cellular information to find the GPS signal faster than a regular GPS device. While it is true that the bundled Maps app does need an internet connection, there are lots of different mapping apps in the store that work just fine while offline.

Apple missed the mark again (1)

SilverJets (131916) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371412)

My opinion only but I think Apple dropped the ball with the iPad again. Why not provide a stylus and an app that would make the iPad behave like electronic paper. You could take notes in class, in meetings, draw tech diagrams, etc? Have it do OCR on whatever you write and have it produce a typed document (PDF) and keep the original handwritten work as well.

Re:Apple missed the mark again (2)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371586)

Why not provide a stylus and an app that would make the iPad behave like electronic paper.

You know the real revolution of the Sholes and Glidden [wikipedia.org] was that you could type on it faster than you could write. If something has a keyboard, and you can take for granted that the user population has keyboarding skills, handwriting recognition is useless baggage.

Re:Apple missed the mark again (2)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371666)

The iPad is a large form factor, personal media consumption device with social networking. It's not for taking notes, or writing term papers, or shooting a Filipino horror movie in NYC. I don't think capacitive screens will do what you want to do with any sort of accuracy. Its the trade off of a smooth, finger based interface - accuracy sucks.

Personally, I'd like the idea of that feature, too. I'd also like a higher resolution camera and a "digital copier" function that would let me capture pages to PDF with all the lighting fixed automagically. It's a "known limitation". I haven't found another device that meets all my specs yet either, though.

Re:Apple missed the mark again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371684)

My opinion only but I think Apple dropped the ball with the iPad again. Why not provide a stylus and an app that would make the iPad behave like electronic paper. You could take notes in class, in meetings, draw tech diagrams, etc? Have it do OCR on whatever you write and have it produce a typed document (PDF) and keep the original handwritten work as well.

Yeah. Because the success of the stylus-based MS Tablet PC proved that what people really wanted was an expensive, clumsy replacement for pen and paper. When will Apple learn? I bet Steve Jobs is kicking himself, watching all the pen-based tablets fly off the shelves while iPads gather dust. And to think, Apple's own Newton was such a big seller in its day; you'd think Apple would have tried to replicate its overwhelming success.

Apple clearly does not understand what people want.

It does NOT "make up for all the things lacking" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371444)

"As the video hands on shows, iPad 2 makes up for all the things lacking in the original iPad."

No it doesn't. I want a USB port and/or an SD card slot.

I could care less that it is X mm thinner or Y% faster. I want standard connectivity and upgradable storage without having to pay extra for some stupid port adapter I have to dangle off the edge of it and swap off every time I want to use a different port. It's flagrantly obvious that additional ports were one of the main requests left over from the original iPad, and Apple did nothing to address that deficiency. That is a disappointment.

CmdrTaco says that it's Overrated! (1)

supremebob (574732) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371480)

No Flash support. Less storage than a laptop. He still can't play World Of Warcraft on it. Lame. ;)

Just the beginning (1)

g8oz (144003) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371514)

Tablets are getting me excited about computing again. A look at Texas Instruments' OMAP SoC roadmap promises some very interesting upcoming capabilities that will find their way into future devices.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omap#OMAP_5 [wikipedia.org]

Hands On With Apple II? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35371604)

Is it really a news? I think it exists since 33 years :-(

Bandwidth for Face Time (1)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 3 years ago | (#35371628)

Does anyone have a clue what the face time bandwidth requirements are for face time? I run an IT department for a company with four locations. I've wanted to go the video route for a long time, but haven't had any really good options.

I am looking into iPads for our Executive and Sales teams anyhow... I might be able to kill two birds with one stone. However, I want to make sure I am not going to kill our data plan and/or my corporate internet bandwidth.

Any concrete numbers would be appreciated. Bonus points for info from others who have successfully impleneted video conferencing in a smaller (100 employee) environment across multiple locations. I am willing to award an internet for good info :)

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