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Ask Slashdot: Facebook Archiving?

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the get-a-really-really-big-disk dept.

Social Networks 368

Stenchwarrior writes "I was in the car with my wife and 15-year-old daughter this morning talking about the future of Facebook and how it's likely that they will not be around forever (or at least not at the same capacity as now) and my daughter asked 'Well, what's going to happen to all of my pictures?' It never occurred to her to that Facebook might not be around someday and all of those thousands of photos that she's uploaded might someday be gone. So this is what I ask the good people at Slashdot: What's a good way to preserve all of those memories? Many devices nowadays have direct access to the Internet and even to Facebook and once the images are uploaded they are eventually deleted to make room for more. How do we make sure we can access or backup those files in case Zuckerberg decides to sell out to Google or Microsoft and they do away with everyone's profiles?"

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Download Your Profile (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373402)

The simple answer to your question would be this [] .

Re:Download Your Profile (2)

devxo (1963088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373418)

Que in the comments how everyone should start hosting their blog and pictures on their own server that they manage themself, or that they should email updates and pictures instead of Facebook. Look, casual people aren't capable of handling their own server and why should they be. Also, it would mean that it all gets non-organized and you have to follow several different sites, nor can you plan events or use any other social features that Facebook offers. Not everyone are interested on all those updates or new photos and so on either and it would feel stupid to mass email them. Facebook handles it in a non-intrusive way.

All of the slashdotters who always have to suggest that should actually use Facebook and see what it offers. Once you get familiar with it, it's actually quite fantastic service for many different purposes. It also helped me to move to other side of the planet and get to know the people and places there (I wouldn't had found them from Google or even know about them, since there's no connections I can follow) and still see how people back home are doing. Just use it correctly and see how great Facebook is.

Re:Download Your Profile (2, Insightful)

Carrot007 (37198) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373490)

Nah it aint like that.

Updates: Who gives a crap, they are throw away, getting rid is probably a blessing later!

Pictures: Anyone who does not keep a local copy is an idiot and probably deserves to lose em!

In all, there is no issue.

Re:Download Your Profile (5, Insightful)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373604)

Pictures: Anyone who does not keep a local copy is an idiot and probably deserves to lose em!

Yeah submitter, that's right, your 15-year old daughter who grew up in the internet age is an idiot who deserves to lose her memories. Thankfully, we have people like Carrot007 to help point this out.

Re:Download Your Profile (5, Funny)

spun (1352) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373722)

Oh AmicusNYCL, you hopelessly naive liberal do-gooder, you. Don't you realize that every single time a bad thing happens to someone else, they deserve it? Conversely, all good things that happen to me are deserved as well. This philosophy has helped me feel good about myself while not caring about anyone else, and it can help you too! Blame the victim, I always say. It's just easier.

Re:Download Your Profile (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373870)

You're so wrong. People only get rich because they were already rich. Or they get lucky. The poor are the only hard workers out there, and they noble in spirit as well.

Re:Download Your Profile (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373874)

"Truly we live in the best of all possible worlds."

Re:Download Your Profile (2)

smelch (1988698) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373730)

Who even gives a shit about those kinds of things anyway? "Here are a bazillion pictures I took because everything has a camera on it and I want to KEEP THEM ALL!".... no, pictures aren't for that anymore. They're for isntant "here's what I did that you don't care about." Wanting to keep your facebook photos as an analog to classic photo albums is like equating your status updates to a diary. If she wants to keep them forever, she needs to make hard copies of them, duh.

Re:Download Your Profile (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373986)

Seriously. Who is ever going to look at more than a handful of their photos for more than 10 seconds total in their entire life?

Re:Download Your Profile (3, Informative)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373966)

If she grew up in the internet age, she has no excuse not to understand the technology. If Grandma thinks the computer is magic, that's understandable. Someone who was born in 1996 should know better.

I wouldn't say she "deserves" to lose her data, but she really should know better.

Re:Download Your Profile (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373980)

Well, seriously, though- do people upload a photo to a web site and then delete the local copy?

Re:Download Your Profile (1)

Brucelet (1857158) | more than 3 years ago | (#35374008)

Honestly, Facebook keeps such a terrible quality version of the image that I don't know why anyone wouldn't have a hi-res copy of anything they don't want to lose.

Re:Download Your Profile (1, Insightful)

devxo (1963088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373622)

If you upload a photo from your phone or some other direct way, it's likely you never remember or think about downloading and saving it on your computer.

Re:Download Your Profile (3, Funny)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373700)

wait, now you're saying I have to have a computer to Facebook ?!!!
I'm not no rocket psychiatrist!!

how the above can be done (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373736)

A) xampp server does it all
B) blog software with an installer for the brain dead impaired.
C) specialized spider search engine that like you can get permission and have a link to your pics on the net and your blog

DID i just invent the privacy bet YOUR blog its now up to you , your pics they are staying with you.

Re:how the above can be done (1)

meloneg (101248) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373872)

You forgot a couple.

D) Semi-reliable, always connected hardware to run it on.*
E) Semi-reliable, fairly-fast, connection to run it through.**
F) Sufficient, reliable income to afford a commercial DSL or better internet connection because hosting such a site over most residential plans is a violation of TOS.***
G) Having D & E talk to each other without any router in between or understanding UPnP well enough to get around this.
H) A semi-static IP address AND enough know-how to make it visible "out there".**
I) For your typical 15-year-old (the user in the OP), permission from your parents to use A, B, C, D, E, F & G for this scheme.

* Laptop/netbook/tablet anyone?
** So, not cellular-based, or satellite, or...
***This isn't likely to get you booted off the plan or anything. But, many providers (I'm looking at you TWC) tend to block the common incoming ports for such services, making the setup that much harder.

Re:Download Your Profile (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373780)

Cue the people who can't tell cue from que from queue.

Re:Download Your Profile (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373434)

I would say the simpler answer is to not have to archive your crap from Facebook. Nothing originates on Facebook, the picture was on your computer before you uploaded it. If you deleted it after you uploaded it, you're a fucking moron and deserve to never see it again.

Re:Download Your Profile (4, Informative)

schnikies79 (788746) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373480)

Most camera phones (at least any iphone and any android device) can upload pics directly to Facebook. Never saving a copy on the device and certainly not syncing with a computer.

Like or not, mornon or not, it can and does happen.

Re:Download Your Profile (5, Informative)

MrMarket (983874) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373582)

Furthermore, the comments from friends are not on your computer with the source file. While most are probably banal, I'm sure some of the jokes, banter, memories, etc. in the pics' comments have some archival value to the owner of the account.

Re:Download Your Profile (1)

schnikies79 (788746) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373614)


Re:Download Your Profile (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373786)

Oh, I thought you meant mormon.

Re:Download Your Profile (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373840)

+1 /Thread over.

Facebook already has this (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373428)

You can get an entire compilation of every picture, post and conversation your account has had. Emails you a zip file in about 20 minutes

Export? Its already there! (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373432)

Facebook already has a export feature. Just export and store

Re:Export? Its already there! (5, Informative)

coolmadsi (823103) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373548)

Facebook already has a export feature. Just export and store

Indeed, its fairly easy to find. Account (drop down) -> Account Settings -> Download your information

You can archive it yourself (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373444)

Facebook offers an option to download all of your interactions (photos, posts, messages)

Too late (3, Insightful)

lucas teh geek (714343) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373450)

Theyre already gone. All you can do now is download the shitty low res copies facebook keeps

Re:Too late (3, Informative)

FleaPlus (6935) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373694)

> All you can do now is download the shitty low res copies facebook keeps

Huh? Facebook upgraded its resolution last year to handle up to 2048 pixels on the longest edge. Granted, many cameras can shoot higher than that nowadays, but I don't think anybody would describe that as low-res. []

Re:Too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373822)

which is fine for anything in the last year, but before that it would be at whatever the original resolution caps would be.

Re:Too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373894)

whatever the original resolution caps would be

604 pixels on the longest side.

It's called 'backup' (1)

improfane (855034) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373452)

I don't understand this article is called 'Facebook Archiving'... Backup is backup whatever you look at it, in this case, you're backing up photographs...They're not *Facebook photographs*, they're just photographs, perhaps ordinary JPGS.

If you want to backup your 'status updates', install Status Net or some twitter clone, then make updates locally with your tool, then get those to sync with twitter and then Facebook...

Links to backup software (2)

improfane (855034) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373606)

I should probably provide an (indirect) answer as I did not answer your question, If you're looking for backup software (which you are), these will probably be a goldmine for ideas:

Depends... (1)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373460)

There are already a few third-party (for a fee) options out there, or if you have firefox, perhaps this add on for it may do the job for you. []

Date Center (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373470)

Facebook is the process of breaking ground on billion dollar data center in Forest City NC. I'm pretty sure you'll have a while before her memories disappear

Re:Date Center (1, Insightful)

praxis (19962) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373792)

You weren't around during the 00's were you? That time when companies invested billions into their infrastructure and technology only the become irrelevant husks with stock valued at fractions of a percent of their high.

You are probably right that Facebook will be around for a while (for some definition of a while), but it's not because they're building a data center.

Re:Date Center (0)

confused one (671304) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373992)

AC's definitely new. I remember the early '90's when companies were experimenting with this new internet thing. They'd put up a site, then after finding out how much it cost to maintain they'd pull it back down 6 months later. I still save everything I download (the latest version anyway) because you never know if the site will still be around next year.

Gold Mine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373472)

All the data on Facebook is a gold mine for advertisers and marketers. It will never go avay, even if the data is not on the public internet.

Back them up.... (5, Funny)

dakkon1024 (691790) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373476)

Back them up on MySpace

"15-year-old daughter" (5, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373478)

No panic, all her better pictures are archived on 4chan.

Re:"15-year-old daughter" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373580)

No panic, all her better pictures are archived on 4chan.

+10 internets to you, sir

Re:"15-year-old daughter" (1)

trollertron3000 (1940942) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373692)

Moar win or GTFO

Re:"15-year-old daughter" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35374012)

do we have a word for distributed local back-ups yet? Crowd-storage sounds kind of lame

Not to worry (3, Insightful)

jaymzter (452402) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373484)

If Facebook should go out of business, all of your photos and personal data will be sold to the highest bidder. I'm sure that ACME advertising would love to archive it for you.

It's time for your daughter to realize that her (and our) personal information are what constitutes Facebook's most valuable assets.

Off-Line Backup (1)

Ancantus (1926920) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373492)

If you have something hosted online, you should always have an offline backup. Look at the gmail account deletion a couple of days ago. Always trust yourself above the web and get a Terabyte hard drive and keep all the pics you want on there as well as on Facebook. You can get one for around $100 bucks and store all the pictures you want to keep.

Same procedure as every year. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373508)

Do the same thing you did with 2. Life, Geocities and AOL.

Do not trust the cloud! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373510)

The problem extends itself to online Email, youtube, etc.

Stupid questions deserve stupid answers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373516)

Um. Maybe you could do an actual backup ahead of time, just like anything else you want to make sure continues to exist.

There's nothing to worry about (1)

KnownIssues (1612961) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373518)

There's nothing to worry about. Facebook is too big to fail!

Re:There's nothing to worry about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373676)

Does that mean the government will bail out Facebook to protect our memories?

Save the original (1)

MikeB0Lton (962403) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373520)

Um, store the original files locally? Any good photos I have are going to be stored on my computer and backed up. Anything I post to Facebook is a low-res copy. Who cares about the wall. If you just have to keep it all in the cloud, use a service designed to store your pics and maybe even pay them something.

Re:Save the original (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373950)

This question is more or less equivalent to "How do I back up the music on my iPod?" The answer is that you shouldn't be using your iPod/Facebook/Dropbox/etc as primary storage in the first place.

babys, no time left for saving face(book) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373522)

for anybody who wants to stay in the dark, there's more available every day now. some of the rest of us are moving on.

1. DEWEAPONIZATION (not a real word, but they like it) almost nothing else good happens until some progress here, 'they' say.

2. ALL BABYS CREATED/TO BE TREATED, EQUALLY. (a rough interpretation (probably cost us. seems like a no-brainer but they expressed that we fail on that one too(:)->) 'we do not need any 300$ 'strollers', or even to ride in your smelly cars/planes etc..., until such time as ALL of the creators' innocents have at least food, shelter, & some loving folks nearby.' again, this is a dealbreaker, so pay attention.

3. THOU SHALT NOT VACCINATE IRRESPONSIBLY. this appears to be a stop-gap intention.

the genuine feelings expressed included; in addition to the lack of acknowledgment of the advances/evolution of our tiny bodies/dna, almost nobody knows anymore what's in those things (vaccines) (or they'd tell us), & there's rumor much of it is less than good (possibly fatal) for ANY of us. if it were good for us we'd be gravitating towards it, instead of it being shoved in our little veins, wrecking them, & adversely affecting our improving immune systems/development? at rite-aid, they give the mommies 100$ if they let them stick their babys with whoknowswhat? i can see why they're (the little ones) extremely suspicious? many, oddly? have strong inclinations to want to grow up to be reporters of nefarious life threatening processes/conspiracies, as they sincerely believe that's 'stuff that REALLY matters', but they KNOW that things are going to be out in the open soon, so they intend to put their acute/astute senses/information gathering abilities to the care & feeding of their fellow humans. no secrets to cover up with that goal.

again, some 'alternatives' already arbitrarily in force by the 'grownups';

    The Georgia Guidestones, a massive granite edifice planted in the Georgia countryside, contains a list of ten new commandments for Earthâ€s citizens. The first commandment, and the one which concerns this article, simply states; Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 ('nature's' accountants?) in perpetual balance with nature (like 'they' (freemasons)) know her #s?).yuk

Robert Walker, former chair of PepsiCo and Proctor & Gamble on water:

Water is a gift of nature. Its delivery is not. It must be priced to insure it is used sustainably.

Mikhail Gorbachev:

We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there arenâ€t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.â€

Jacques Cousteau UNESCO Courier 1991:

In order to save the planet it would be necessary to kill 350,000 people per day.

Jacques Cousteau, Population: Opposing Viewpoints:

If we want our precarious endeavor to succeed, we must convince all human beings to participate in our adventure, and we must urgently find solutions to curb the population explosion that has a direct influence on the impoverishment of the less-favoured communities. Otherwise, generalized resentment will beget hatred, and the ugliest genocide imaginable, involving billions of people, will become unavoidable.

Uncontrolled population growth and poverty must not be fought from inside, from Europe, from North America, or any nation or group of nations; it must be attacked from the outside & by international agencies helped in the formidable job by competent and totally non-governmental organizations.

David Rockefeller: Memoirs 2002 Founder of the CFR:

We wield over American political and economical institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as â€internationalists†and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political structure, one world, if you will. If thatâ€s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.
David Rockefeller, Co-founder of the Trilateral Commission:

We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine & other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promise of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plans for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. Thomas Ferguson, the Latin American Case Officer for the State Departmentâ€s Office of Population Affairs (OPA) (now the US State Dept. Office of Population Affairs, est. by Henry Kissinger in 1975): There is a single theme behind all our work -we must reduce population levels, said Thomas Ferguson, the Latin American case officer for the State Departmentâ€s Office of Population Affairs (OPA). Either they [governments] do it our way, through nice clean methods or they will get the kind of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran, or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it. The professionals, said Ferguson, arenâ€t interested in lowering population for humanitarian reasons. That sounds nice. We look at resources and environmental constraints. We look at our strategic needs, and we say that this country must lower its population -or else we will have trouble.

So steps are taken. El Salvador is an example where our failure to lower population by simple means has created the basis for a national security crisis. The government of El Salvador failed to use our programs to lower their population. Now they get a civil war because of it…. There will be dislocation and food shortages. They still have too many people there. (1981)

Aldous Huxley, Lecture named Population Explosion 1959:

…Let us ask ourselves what the practical alternatives are as we confront this problem of population growth. One alternative is to do nothing in particular about it and just let things go on as they are…The question is: Are we going to restore the balance in the natural way, which is a brutal and entirely anti-human way, or are we going to restore it in some intelligent, rational, and humane way…Try to increase production as much as possible and at the same time try to re-establish the balance between the birth rate by means less gruesome than those which are used by nature & by intelligent and human methods?…There are colossal difficulties in the way of implementing any large-scale policy of limitation of population; whereas death control is extremely easy under modern circumstances, birth control is extremely difficult. The reason is very simple: death control & the control, for example, of infectious diseases & can be accomplished by a handful of experts and quite a small labour force of unskilled persons and requires a very small capital expenditure.

Barry Commoner, Making Peace with the Planet:

There have been â€triage†proposals that would condemn whole nations to death through some species of global â€benign neglectâ€. There have been schemes for coercing people to curtail their fertility, by physical and legal means that are ominously left unspecified. Now we are told that we must curtail rather than extend our efforts to feed the hungry peoples of the world. Where will it end? Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, April 28, 1997, Testimony before Congressional Committee: There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. Itâ€s real, and thatâ€s the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and thatâ€s why this is so important.

Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, April 28, 1997; Testimony before Congressional Committee:

And advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.

Sir Julian Huxley, UNESCO: its Purpose and its Philosophy:

Political unification in some sort of world government will be required… Even though… any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care, and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that now is unthinkable may at least become thinkable. In the early 1950â€s, former Communist Joseph Z. Kornfeder expressed the opinion that UNESCO was comparable to a Communist Party agitation and propaganda department. He stated that such a party apparatus â€handles the strategy and method of getting at the public mind, young and old.†Huxley would lard the agency with a motley collection of Communists and fellow travelers.

President Richard Nixon believed abortion was necessary as a form of eugenics to prevent interracial breeding

Theodore Roosevelt to Charles B. Davenport, January 3, 1913, Charles B. Davenport Papers, Department of Genetics, Cold Spring Harbor, N.Y.:

I wish very much that the wrong people could be prevented entirely from breeding; and when the evil nature of these people is sufficiently flagrant, this should be done. Criminals should be sterilized and feebleminded persons forbidden to leave offspring behind them…The emphasis should be laid on getting desirable people to breed…

Ted Turner makes the radical statement that, A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal,

Margaret Sanger (founder of Planned Parenthood, funded by the Rockefellers) said in her proposed The American Baby Code, intended to become law:

The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.

**This is the woman (Margaret Sanger) whom Hillary Clinton publicly declared she looked up to, during the 2008 presidential debates.**

Here is a short list of some advocates of eugenics; Alexander Graham Bell, George Bernard Shaw H. G. Wells, Sidney Webb, William Beveridge, John Maynard Keynes, Margaret Sanger, Marie Stopes, Woodrow Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Emile Zola, George Bernard Shaw, John Maynard Keynes, John Harvey Kellogg, Winston Churchill, Linus Pauling, Sidney Webb, Sir Francis Galton, Charles B. Davenport Futurist Barbara Marx Hubbard (who wanted to create a Dept. of Peace)...

Out of the full spectrum of human personality, one-fourth is electing to transcend…One-fourth is ready to so choose, given the example of one other…One-fourth is resistant to election. They are unattracted by life ever evolving. One-fourth is destructive. They are born angry with God…They are defective seeds…There have always been defective seeds. In the past they were permitted to die a â€natural deathâ€â€¦we, the elders, have been patiently waiting until the very last moment before the quantum transformation, to take action to cut out this corrupted and corrupting element in the body of humanity. It is like watching a cancer grow…Now, as we approach the quantum shift from creature-human to co-creative human—the human who is an inheritor of god-like powers—the destructive one-fourth must be eliminated from the social body. We have no choice, dearly beloveds. Fortunately you, dearly beloveds, are not responsible for this act. We are. We are in charge of Godâ€s selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death. We come to bring death to those who are unable to know God…the riders of the pale horse are about to pass among you. Grim reapers, they will separate the wheat from the chaff. This is the most painful period in the history of humanity…

Alexander Haig is quoted referring to the US State Department Office of Population Affairs, which was established by Henry Kissinger in 1975. The title has since been changed to The Bureau of Oceans, International Environmental and Scientific Affairs:

Accordingly, the Bureau of Oceans, International Environmental and Scientific Affairs has consistently blocked industrialization policies in the Third World, denying developing nationâ€s access to nuclear energy technology&the policies that would enable countries to sustain a growing population. According to State Department sources, and Ferguson himself, Alexander Haig is a firm believer in population control. yikes?

Re:babys, no time left for saving face(book) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373648)

Seems that someone forgot their meds today.

Re:babys, no time left for saving face(book) (1)

mistiry (1845474) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373832)


What the fuck are you talking about?

facebook is not a primary storage device (1)

spidercoz (947220) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373550)

that you're asking that question at all is just fail

Re:facebook is not a primary storage device (1)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373626)

That's what I am thinking. The quality of the facebook pics are such crap anyway. Who in their right mind thinks that is where their original copies should reside. Keep one copy on your main drive, one backed up to an external, and another on a CD/DVD stored in a fireproof box. And do that with all important files.

spacebook (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373560)

I'd think the human brain should be sufficient storage for memories...

Does nobody else think it's just a bit creepy that anybody born from now on is going to have their entire lives documented online?

But if you insist on keeping all your thousands of photos or just want a backup, then pony up the dough to buy your own device instead of relying on Facebook as a storage system.

How about the wayback machine? (1)

scharkalvin (72228) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373570)

Isn't that what this site is for?

Facebook is not your photo storage. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373572)

Facebook is meant to share pictures with others, not to be a central location for you to store your photos. They drop the resolution as well as strip them of all the metadata attached, like GPS location information, time taken, etc... And all that info is something you may want later down the road to organize your photos by location or date/time, etc...

Don't make Facebook something it's not.

It's already taken care of (0)

zill (1690130) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373586)

15-year-old daughter

Don't worry about it. As long as she's between 3 and 16 years old I have all her facebook pictures archived already.

Re:It's already taken care of (1)

swanzilla (1458281) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373698)

...maybe should have gone AC there

Re:It's already taken care of (1)

meloneg (101248) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373956)


15 yr. old, THOUSANDS of photos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373592)

Sounds like she spends too much time archiving life and displaying it on the net instead of living it. Likely this trend will worsen as she ages. Tell her to gtfo, kick her off the pc and smartphone.

WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373618)


Even on Slashdot people ask questions so simple, they can be answered in a 5 second Google search. I don't understand the world anymore.

Just backup the old fashioned way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373628)

The first thing is to stop keeping the only copy of pictures and videos on Facebook (or any other social network for that matter). Even when you upload things in hi-res Facebook downsizes them to save storage space. Just keep the original pictures on a computer and backup occasionally to a DVD or external HDD. You solve two problems at once there - safer and better quality.

Granted they are still at risk of fire damage / theft but the only way to make them safer than that is to pay for online storage. All of the free cloud type backup sites have terms and conditions stating that the service may be withdrawn without notice and your data is not guaranteed to be there when you come back for it (although it is very unlikely you will lose things that way, unless you violate the terms of service obviously).

But... they're not on the computer. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373638)

What the author is saying is that there's plenty of devices that opt to "make your life easy" by importing photo's DIRECTLY to facebook, and removing the original(again, in an attempt to "make your life easy").

I think the real problem is unfamiliar users with new technology don't understand that this could(and probably will) happen. They don't understand the difference between: the picture on facebook, and a high-resolution image file on their desktop. The other obvious issue is that Facebook does let you backup(export) your photo's, but only the resized("optimized") version.

There's a lot of argument to be made for people who "actually need to keep those pictures" or the importance of the photo initially. But all the semantic aside, it's irresponsible of device manufactures to rely on Facebook for storage, especially considering what happens to your image once you do import it.

Related to this would be the difficulty for uninformed users to leverage any kind of software to assist them, or new Facebook features(buried deep inside settings configuration, no doubt) to try and deflect this issue. Of corse, there will be a push to "preserve" Facebook after all is said and done -- it still doesn't get a user any closer to their property.

This of corse, on top of the fact that the images uploaded to Facebook aren't even technically yours.

Master Plan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373642)

I always wondered if Facebook will charge a fee for you to view archived posts.
Moms post pictures without thinking and then one day realize that Facebook owns their completed diary.
I think and Facebook will merge in the future.

Backup is valid for the cloud too (1)

wr0ngway (28751) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373656)

Backupify (disclosure: I work there) does automated facebook archiving as well as other services. There are many ways to lose data, so more redundancy is usually a win.

Wait a minute... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373662)

I think you are at the wrong website....You said you have a wife.

You might be talking about second life where I too have a wife but she cost me real money through paypal. So nevermind, I understand the story. But now that I think about it how do I backup my second life profile?


Backupify is there for you (1)

iknowwhatismyname (948542) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373666) [] "Backupify is an all-in-one archiving, search and restore service for the most popular online services including Google Apps, Facebook, Twitter, Picasa and more." There's probably other service like that.

wget (1)

rwa2 (4391) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373668)

Same way with most of your sites... something like:

wget -r -l 2 -p -k --load-profile [path to your mozilla profile for cookies and passwords] []

Play with the -l and --accept and --reject to filter out stuff you don't want... unfortunately facebook's undescripted URL format will make this difficult. But wget works quite well to backup your other blog sites, like livejournal, blogspot, and slashdot.

As for myself, I only ever post to facebook via twitter (which also crossposts to buzz and livejournal). There's actually no real content that I post to Facebook directly, I just use it as yet another form of 2-way rss.

Re:wget (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373856)

Yeah, because all 15 year old girls who don't know how to backup pictures offline are running linux!

Re:wget (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373996)

I just tried this and it didn't work. C:\Documents and Settings\ANONYMOUSCOWARD>wget -r -l 2 -p -k --load-profile [path to y our mozilla profile for cookies and passwords] [] [ m] 'wget' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

I share your fear (1)

ddd0004 (1984672) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373680)

I'm worried about a couple hundred animated gifs and flash widgets that I had piled on a myspace profile.


Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373684)

Ask her if she posted tits. If she did the retards on 4chan already archived her stuff.

This is why we need to forget (1)

Foofoobar (318279) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373690)

Why would you want to remember every post and every tweet and every picture? Its a DAMN good things that there is data loss at least for the mundane. I don't want people seeing everything I first posted when I from my first websites and my first forays into the web. LET IT DIE ALREADY YOU FRIGGIN INTERNET VAMPIRES!

Picasa (2)

c_jonescc (528041) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373702)

I use Picasa instead of FB for photos.

1) I trust the longevity more. Feel free to disagree.
2) I can upload full resolution images.
3) My friends can download full albums of full resolution images if I've set privacy settings accordingly.

When people post images on FB, I'm always bummed that I can't backup the high quality image myself, and these days people seem to email around photo backups of events far less, and simply tag people on Facebook.

As far as backing up: I have everything important at full res in Picasa, in the cloud, I have them on my computer HD, my iPhone syncs full resolution copies daily, and I keep a regular external HD backup. That all seems pretty safe to me, especially compared to simply expecting FB to keep the sole copy forever.

Multiple copies available (1)

Teun (17872) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373738)

The question is primarily a proof of stupidity on the side of the Facebook user.

First, when you uploaded it you must have had the original, why didn't you save it?
Second, contact Facebook as an advertiser and/or marketeer and they will hand you anything you want (for a price).
Third, ask your favourite 3- or 4 letter agency for info on terrist X...

And lastly, when you wake up from the stupor that made you place all that personal info on Facebook you will find it's impossible to remove what got out on the net :(

External harddrive (1)

sdguero (1112795) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373742)

Buy a new one every 3 years for $100 and put all your crap on it.
br. Even better, buy two and keep one in a storage bin or at a relatives in case of a fire or something.

Re:External harddrive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373802)

The trouble with HDDs is that they can just pack up at any time.

I've just had a drive fail catastrophically after 7 months. No bad treatment or sudden shocks to the drive or anything.

For anything that's valuable (sentimentally or otherwise) you want to be backing up to optical discs and keeping them somewhere very safe or paying for guaranteed online storage.

Buzz (1)

travdaddy (527149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373766)

How do we make sure we can access or backup those files in case Zuckerberg decides to sell out to Google or Microsoft and they do away with everyone's profiles?

Just use Google Buzz instead, Google already owns that.

Use websites for sharing, not storage (1)

CmdrPorno (115048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373772)

The short answer is that you treat Facebook, Flickr, and other sites just like you did back in the Good Old Days--as a means of sharing, not as a means of storage. It's fine to upload and share the photos immediately, but you leave them on your device until you dock the device and download them all (in native resolution) to your computer. Then you can remove delete them from the device.

Dumbest article to date. (1)

kuzb (724081) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373778)

If google or microsoft buys facebook, it's because they want the users. They'll either keep the system, or migrate the user data to their own systems. It's fucking stupid to think they wouldn't. This is another great example of slashdot approving a worthless story with no merit.

Re:Dumbest article to date. (1)

Zerimar (1124785) | more than 3 years ago | (#35374022)

Tell that to all Geocities users. Sometimes, things die forever and all is lost.

In my day... (5, Insightful)

turgid (580780) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373794)

In my day, we had our own websites, and we were happy.

We had our own writing, our own art and our own photographs (and source code etc.) and we kept a backup on our own PCs. And we owned the copyright on the stuff that we had created ourselves. We put links to other peoples' web sites that we liked.

These young people today don't know know how easy they have it. And I'll tell you another thing, it's so easy for them, they've never had to think for themselves. And they've never had to take any responsibility.

When it all goes horribly wrong, they'll have nothing left and they won't know what to do, and when someone say, "Well, just restore from your backup." They'll say, "What's a backup?"

And you'll say, "The spare copies of everything that you kept for safe-keeping."

And there will be a look of bewilderment on their faces and they'll say, "I didn't know you could do that..."

Wow. (1)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373808)

How do we make sure we can access or backup those files in case Zuckerberg decides to sell out to Google or Microsoft

Wow. Are there really still people who think this is the worst that can happen with Facebook?

The government to the rescue! (1)

mmcuh (1088773) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373858)

Just send a FOIA request to NSA or DHS, I'm sure they will keep a backup of all photos, tags, friend relations and pretty much everything else.

Re:The government to the rescue! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373958)

Correction: DHS or FBI. The NSA is, amazingly, the most scrupulous set of spies I've ever worked with, anywhere, in the world. "Go to ? That sounds kind of expensive." "We don't test devices in the US unless there is no reasonable alternative" "Uhh, am I going to get arrested for this?" "We'll take care of that" "Shit"

Yes, I'll deny it.

Backup Device (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373884)

10x Blu-Ray burners are down to 89 bucks. 12x for 99. Discs are under $3 each. Burn the pics to bd-r discs; that's what I do.

Re:Backup Device (1)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373916)

Disc should never be your only backup, though. Technology changes and discs wear out. Those files I had saved on 5 1/4 floppies might as well have been deleted at this point.

Child Porn (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35373924)

Just get listed as a suspect in a child porn ring, let the FBI do your dirty work for you.

Try (1)

Inquisitor911 (935895) | more than 3 years ago | (#35373948) is a great way to back up your Facebook account in the cloud (along with Twitter, Picasa, Google Calendar, Google Docs, etc.). You can use the promo code savegmail to get 20 GB of storage free for a whole year.

Local Backup (1)

men0s (1413347) | more than 3 years ago | (#35374002)

If you're a reader of slashdot, I'm sure you're aware how far a couple of hard drives (internal and external) and off-site storage will go. Tell her to start copying them to a hard drive, upload them to Facebook, but don't delete them. Start this now and then tell her to go back and download her profile as someone in the thread already mentioned. Simple, really, unless I'm missing something in the question.

In the same vein your daughter's question, what about all the meta data attached to the posted picture itself? For example, everyone that is tagged in the photo, the caption of the photo, and the comments that went along with it. Yes, I would rather want the photo than the extraneous information, but I'm sure someday I'm going to have trouble some people are in those images..

Replace Facebook with Yahoo Group (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35374014)

Curious if anyone knows a process for archiving, off site, a Yahoo Group? With the reports of 'Sunsetting' at Yahoo, would like to take a group out of the system. Thanks.

Facebook disappear? (1)

TerranFury (726743) | more than 3 years ago | (#35374018)

I wish.

I'm more worried nothing will be deleted -- ever.

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