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Libyan Internet Flatlined

Unknown Lamer posted more than 3 years ago | from the dude-you-blew-up-the-edge-router dept.

Censorship 77

dnsdude told us about the latest developments regarding rumored Libyan Internet censorship. It appears that massive censorship is occuring with two of the five .ly root name servers being unreachable. It's difficult to tell if this is because of intentionally bad routes, or the result of actual infrastructure damage.

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Is posting AC a thing of the past? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35381722)

No.

bit.ly is still up (0)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35381784)

fwiw, I can still browse to bit.ly [bit.ly] .

I've been expecting Twitter to have a major conniption when Gaddafi inevitably shuts down the whole .ly TLD.

Re:bit.ly is still up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35381874)

If bit.ly continues to be hosted at the same IP address, will this route continue to be reachable despite the root servers going down?

Re:bit.ly is still up (1)

Dan541 (1032000) | more than 3 years ago | (#35385254)

The DNS cache will eventually expire without updates from the root. So without Human intervention it should disappear, I don't know if there is a protocol to save the cache in the absence of root or not. But you can manually enter it into your own hosts file.

At least they can watch Libya State TV (1)

h00manist (800926) | more than 3 years ago | (#35386328)

No Internet, cellphones, or any channels. Only the Hostage Citizens Information Service TV. If dozens of countries are so upset, I don't understad why they don't engage in at least a little channel-specific Lies-TV jamming of their own to shut up the fool.

Re:bit.ly is still up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35381898)

That is because only 2 out of the 5 .ly root nameservers are down. The other three will pick up the slack.

Re:bit.ly is still up (3, Interesting)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382086)

If you look at the graph on the google page linked in the summary, and expand it to the left, it turns out that Libya's traffic was about 50% lower a few weeks ago, when the revolution started. It's been improving. The "flatline" is suspicious, especially since 3 of the 5 .ly root servers are still up. It also falls in the area of data that's still being collected by Google, so it might be specious.

Re:bit.ly is still up (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35384518)

Nope. Google has verified the data. They're getting nothing from Libya. But I suspect that they don't include all .ly root servers in that, since bit.ly is still resolvable. The .ly root nodes that are still working are likely not actually in Libya. Google may understand this and not include traffic to them in their statistics.

Re:bit.ly is still up (1)

datapharmer (1099455) | more than 3 years ago | (#35385970)

whois lookup for bit.ly is nonresponsive. Just because the SOA records haven't expired means nothing.

Re:bit.ly is still up (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382516)

That is because only 2 out of the 5 .ly root nameservers are down. The other three will pick up the slack.

Three out of five isn't bad.

Re:bit.ly is still up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35383338)

Three out of five isn't bad.

But if the average male has five inches...

Re:bit.ly is still up (1)

MJMullinII (1232636) | more than 3 years ago | (#35386978)

Five? No wonder everyone else is pissed at me.

Re:bit.ly is still up (2)

Stenchwarrior (1335051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35381942)

When I trace to bit.ly it stops in San Jose, CA. They probably have mirrors in several countries and this one happens to be closets for us.

Re:bit.ly is still up (1)

Stenchwarrior (1335051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35381990)

Closest, not closets....

Re:bit.ly is still up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382336)

Closest, not closets....

Dude, I'm not the parent.

When I see these pedantic corrections on an internet discussion site, it just hits a nerve with me - yeah, I know: I have issues.

Have you ever fired off a quick note to someone and not do a proof read because the spelling really wasn't that important but the point was and the point had to be made quickly?

Or mis-spoke? Or mis-spoke and corrected yourself only to have someone say, "I know what you meant." - in other words, correcting yourself was a pointless waste of time.

We all make mistakes when speaking. Or when typing. And in some cases, such an internet discussion site, it really doesn't matter and is a waste of time to spend proof reading and whatnot - this isn't a resume, dissertation, article, or legal document.

Get a life.

Re:bit.ly is still up (2)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382376)

Get a life.

Took you 200 words to fall into that irony.

Re:bit.ly is still up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382590)

No, no, what's *really* irritating is when people comment on the comments commenting on the corrections to comments.
Now, comments commenting on the comments of people who are commenting on comments critical of the correctness of corrective comments are commendable.

furthermore... someone here is worse than Hitler and we really need to determine which one of us it is.

Yo dawg ... (1)

sourcerror (1718066) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382750)

I put some comment into your comments so you can comment when you comment.

Re:bit.ly is still up (1)

milage (881680) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382418)

It was probably more that he wanted to prevent the torrent of correction posts from other /.ers...

Get a life.

Was that really necessary?

Re:bit.ly is still up (1)

Stenchwarrior (1335051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382830)

If I didn't make the correction then someone, probably you, would have made a joke about how I have mirrors in my closets or some stupid shit like that. The one who needs to concentrate on getting a life is the guy that posted a long-winded message about how much it bothers him when people make corrections on their typos.

Re:bit.ly is still up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35386132)

DUDE! Get the mirrors out of your closets!

Re:bit.ly is still up (3, Informative)

icebike (68054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382928)

Closest, not closets....

Dude, I'm not the parent.

When I see these pedantic corrections on an internet discussion site, it just hits a nerve with me -

Dude: he was correcting HIS OWN ERROR.

LEARN to read before you try posting.

Re:bit.ly is still up (1)

flonker (526111) | more than 3 years ago | (#35384290)

It's not the web host, it's the .ly TLD DNS servers that are having issues. If I had a .ly domain, I would probably be increasing my TTL records to whatever I thought I could get away with. I remember it being something like 2 weeks, before people start ignoring your TTL and using a "sane" default.

http://www.kloth.net/services/dig.php [kloth.net]
dig: couldn't get address for 'dns1.lttnet.net': failure

  ; > DiG 9.3.2 > @localhost bit.ly A +trace
  ; (2 servers found) ;; global options: printcmd
  . 3600000 IN NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  . 3600000 IN NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
[snip]
  . 3600000 IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  . 3600000 IN NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; Received 500 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 1 ms

  ly. 172800 IN NS dns1.lttnet.net.
  ly. 172800 IN NS dns.lttnet.net.
  ly. 172800 IN NS ns-ly.ripe.net.
  ly. 172800 IN NS auth02.ns.uu.net.
  ly. 172800 IN NS phloem.uoregon.edu. ;; Received 263 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 24 ms

and a second time:

  ; > DiG 9.3.2 > @localhost bit.ly A +trace
  ; (2 servers found) ;; global options: printcmd
[snip]

  ly. 172800 IN NS phloem.uoregon.edu.
  ly. 172800 IN NS ns-ly.ripe.net.
  ly. 172800 IN NS dns.lttnet.net.
  ly. 172800 IN NS dns1.lttnet.net.
  ly. 172800 IN NS auth02.ns.uu.net. ;; Received 263 bytes from 192.203.230.10#53(E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 180 ms

  bit.ly. 172800 IN NS ns3.p26.dynect.net.
  bit.ly. 172800 IN NS ns2.p26.dynect.net.
  bit.ly. 172800 IN NS ns4.p26.dynect.net.
  bit.ly. 172800 IN NS ns1.p26.dynect.net. ;; Received 110 bytes from 128.223.32.35#53(phloem.uoregon.edu) in 193 ms

  bit.ly. 3600 IN A 168.143.172.53
  bit.ly. 86400 IN NS ns2.p26.dynect.net.
  bit.ly. 86400 IN NS ns3.p26.dynect.net.
  bit.ly. 86400 IN NS ns1.p26.dynect.net.
  bit.ly. 86400 IN NS ns4.p26.dynect.net. ;; Received 126 bytes from 208.78.71.26#53(ns3.p26.dynect.net) in 13 ms

Re:bit.ly is still up (1)

Stenchwarrior (1335051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35387188)

+5 informative.

All your .ly are belong to us (1)

Compaqt (1758360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35381978)

Could there be a way to transfer control of .ly to the Benghazi Provisional Government of Libya [slashdot.org] ?

I, for one, would welcome new overlords of .ly.

Re:All your .ly are belong to us (1)

morgauxo (974071) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382064)

They probably have more pressing matters to attend to right now. Then again... so does the other side.

Re:All your .ly are belong to us (1)

Compaqt (1758360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382220)

Twitter to Benghazi: Got .ly?
Benghazi to Twitter: Got ammo?

Re:bit.ly is still up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382672)

DNS cache or "poisoning" by ISP?

Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL. . (1, Interesting)

JSBiff (87824) | more than 3 years ago | (#35381810)

I've always wondered if using a .ly domain name would come back to bite bit.ly in the arse. I just checked, and it still appears to be up, but if all the .ly servers go down for more than a day, no one will be able to use their service.

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (5, Informative)

palegray.net (1195047) | more than 3 years ago | (#35381972)

Root servers for the ly TLD:

  • dns.lttnet.net
  • auth02.ns.uu.net
  • ns-ly.ripe.net
  • phloem.uoregon.edu
  • dns1.lttnet.net

All of these would have to inoperable before all .ly domains would stop resolving, and there's still the matter of caching at intermediate DNS servers until the TTL expires for records. Additionally, bit.ly isn't hosted within Libya. In short, I don't expect bit.ly to be going down over this.

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (1)

TheSync (5291) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382522)

I am sure Gaddafi could, at any time, have Libya Telecom & Technology "turn off" the .ly TLD by contacting every root server.

Not sure if/why he'd want to do that, but I think one has to recognize that a TLD in a country run by a dictator is a serious business risk.

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35384424)

Really? You think uoregon would be up for supporting him?

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (1)

palegray.net (1195047) | more than 3 years ago | (#35387134)

I think you're forgetting that Libya does not control the public root. INAIC does [inaic.com] , and I somehow suspect the entire ly TLD going dark "because a maniacal dictator said so" wouldn't last terribly long.

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382006)

Three of the .ly nameservers are outside of Libya, so as long as those are still answering queries .ly domains should be fine.

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382106)

Well, that's easily solved for us slashdotters. Bit.ly is 168.143.172.53, at least to me here in the southeast UK. Just point your hosts file there.

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (2)

SomeoneGotMyNick (200685) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382298)

Bit.ly is 168.143.172.53

Can you shorten that IP address for us?

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382626)

Sure

http://2827988021

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 3 years ago | (#35383056)

Partial success: Firefox works if I disable proxy, but the Squid I use for caching and ad-blocking doesn't work with decimal-representation IPs.

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (1)

SomeoneGotMyNick (200685) | more than 3 years ago | (#35452966)

Sure

http://2827988021

Kudos!!!

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35385720)

Sure. A8.8F.AC.35.

Re:Wonder if Bit.ly is still happy about their URL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382512)

> Well, that's easily solved for us slashdotters. Bit.ly is 168.143.172.53

Hmm that doesn't seem to fill-out my IPv6 field. Is that some form of obsolete protocol that you're using?

What about bit.ly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35381820)

bit.ly is still up and running.

all your base... (5, Funny)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 3 years ago | (#35381824)

are belong to me. The people love me. I am not a leader, I have no position. I cannot step down.

But you have voluntarily given all your base to me. I am divine protector of your base.

I will never leave. Your base is safe with me.

Some young people have taken drugs which caused them to make poor decisions about their base.

The correct decision is to give all your base to me. I will never leave you. The people's councils honor me with their base.

I am forever.

Re:all your base... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382044)

forever is not forever ...

Re:all your base... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382154)

o/` Don't cry for me, Argentinaaaaaaaa o/`

Re:all your base... (3, Funny)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382184)

are belong to me. The people love me. I am not a leader, I have no position. I cannot step down.

But you have voluntarily given all your base to me. I am divine protector of your base.

I will never leave. Your base is safe with me.

Some young people have taken drugs which caused them to make poor decisions about their base.

The correct decision is to give all your base to me. I will never leave you. The people's councils honor me with their base.

I am forever.

Is it me, or is anyone else having trouble deciding if this is a quote from a Libyan dictator...or Charlie Sheen?

ALL YOUR COKE BELONGS TO US! (2)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382752)

They should put Quadaffi on "Two and a Half Men" and make Charlie Sheen dictator of Libya.
That'd be cool.

In AD 2011, civil war was beginning. (1)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382276)

In AD 2011, civil war was beginning.

all your base are belong to me. The people love me. I am not a leader, I have no position. I cannot step down.

What happen?

But you have voluntarily given all your base to me. I am divine protector of your base.

I will never leave. Your base is safe with me.

Some young people have taken drugs which caused them to make poor decisions about their base.

What you say?!

The correct decision is to give all your base to me. I will never leave you. The people's councils honor me with their base.

I am forever.

You have no chance to survive. Make your time.

(For great justice. Move packets!)

Re:all your base... (1)

EnsilZah (575600) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382320)

Welcome to Gaddafi's Libya
This is Gaddafi's Libya
Welcome
This is Gaddafi's Libya
Welcome to Gaddafi's Libya
You can do anything in Gaddafi's Libya
Anything in all
The only limit is yourself
Welcome to Gaddafi's Libya
Welcome to Gaddafi's Libya
This is Gaddafi's Libya
Welcome to Gaddafi's Libya
This is Gaddafi's Libya, Welcome
Yes, this is Gaddafi's Libya
This is Gaddafi's Libya and welcome to you who have come to Gaddafi's Libya
Anything is possible in Gaddafi's Libya
You can to anything Gaddafi's Libya
The infinite is possible in Gaddafi's Libya
The unintainable is unknown in Gaddafi's Libya
Welcome to Gaddafi's Libya
This is Gaddafi's Libya
Welcome to Gaddafi's Libya
Welcome
This is Gaddafi's Libya
Welcome to Gaddafi's Libya
Welcome to Gaddafi's Libya

Re:all your base... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35384184)

Zombo.com or.... GADDAFICOM!

Re:all your base... (1)

machine321 (458769) | more than 3 years ago | (#35383708)

Some young people have taken drugs which caused them to make poor decisions about their base.

Did they free base?

Suck it bit.ly (0)

smelch (1988698) | more than 3 years ago | (#35381830)

Sucks for the Libyans, but at least maybe these stupid US based companies using the Libyan TLD will get what's coming to them for abusing DNS.

Re:Suck it bit.ly (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | more than 3 years ago | (#35381936)

How is registering a completely valid ccTLD "abusing DNS"?

Re:Suck it bit.ly (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382116)

I agree it's not really "abusing" DNS, but there is something to be said in favor of using your own country's infrastructure - or that of a stable, well-developed country, at the very least. Using a Libyan domain was probably a bad business move, as it counted on the shit never hitting the fan in Libya, and if experience tells us anything, then it's that EVENTUALLY, the shit always hits the fan.

Re:Suck it bit.ly (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382124)

It's going against the planned heirachy. It's like putting all your documents in /var/lib. It'll work, but that's just how it's supposed to be done.

Re:Suck it bit.ly (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 3 years ago | (#35386470)

Thats better than keeping them in /proc

I guess "abusing" (1)

smelch (1988698) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382208)

was the wrong word, but these cutesy URLs annoy me in the same way starting a comment in the subject annoys me. Use fields (or ccTLDs) the way they are supposed to be used.

Re:Suck it bit.ly (2)

heypete (60671) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382326)

It's not really abusing DNS, but it seems really foolish to found a business that relies upon a (at the time) potentially unstable (and now definitely unstable) foreign country's ccTLD.

Google's shortener, goo.gl [www.goo.gl] , uses Greenland's ccTLD, which is quite stable. Austria (.at), Iceland (.is), and other clever-sounding ccTLDs are in stable countries with good infrastructure. Libya...not so much.

Re:Suck it bit.ly (1)

icebike (68054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35383026)

Heretofore, Libya has been very stable. For about 30 years.

Libya was so stable that our democratically elected president forgot that Libya actually had a constitution, used to hold elections, and he mistook Gaddafi for a legitimate ruler, who only NOW lost his legitimacy due to violence against his own people.

Re:Suck it bit.ly (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382442)

Because a country TLD was meant to be used for services run from within that respective country, or directed at that country.
Same goes for all those who abuse .tv for television stuff.

Hell, the whole damn system has been broken for years. .com, .org, . everything there is, barely any of them are used for the reasons they were created.
The wiki article has a list of several ccTLDs that are abused.
ccTLD abuse [wikipedia.org]
This is what happens when guidelines aren't rules. Greed takes over and, well, ^ happens.

And it is pretty much too late to fix it, along with the horrible mess that is the DNS system in general. (mostly because of people lacking in basic computing knowledge)
Newsgroups had it mostly right. DNS as it is now is terrible, and massively open to abuse simply because of the order of sections in the URIs
Flip the whole section around (sans directories) and it would cut out a huge number of problems. Also ditch the stupid 2 character maximum assignment for ccTLDs. 3 has and always will be the standard.
Then allow for much better organizational groups, such as charity, non-profit, e-mail, media, education, search, banking, porn, whatever.
http://ccTLD.sitetype.domainname.subdomains/directories/
Now, doesn't that look a HELL of a lot better than the crap we have now?
Examples
http://us.search.google.images/?some-parameters-here
http://us.news.google/?some-parameters-here
http://us.news.slashdot.yro/story/11/03/04/1732232/Libyan-Internet-Flatlined
And so on. No need for silly abuse of TLDs, much better organization.

Re:Suck it bit.ly (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 3 years ago | (#35386474)

Because a country TLD was meant to be used for services run from within that respective country, or directed at that country.
Same goes for all those who abuse .tv for television stuff.

And all those who abuse .com for USA stuff when they should be using .us

Perfect (1)

McTickles (1812316) | more than 3 years ago | (#35381870)

More oil on the fire!

Rotten governments might finally start falling!

They sure are doing everything they can to anger people further.

Re:Perfect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382420)

I would hope that once teh gubbemint starts shooting at its own citizens, even Americuhns would revolt. Turning off the internet is a moot point at this juncture.

This is probably real but... FTFA (1)

morgauxo (974071) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382076)

Data after this point are still being finalized. Interpret them with caution.

Google Transparency Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35382078)

Google shows zero traffic as well:

http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/traffic/?r=LY

Re:Google Transparency Report (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382426)

You might want to mouse-over the links in the summary...

Link is up. Layer 8 is down. (4, Informative)

mbone (558574) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382096)

I posted what I know here :

http://forum.americafree.tv/showthread.php?p=45045 [americafree.tv]

It looks like the undersea cable is fine and BGP is up, but there is no reachability past the landing site. This indicates that there is probably not physical damage, at least to the landing site and the first hop routers, but a cut somewhere after that. If I had to guess, I would guess that Gaddafi or his minions just told the ISPs to shut it down.

As the only Libyan landing site I know of is in Tripoli, this may also cut off the liberated areas in Cyrenaica.

Redundancy in routing is good - an overland link between Benghazi and Alexandria could be very useful right now.

Re:Link is up. Layer 8 is down. (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382596)

It could have been an official request. Sure. It could have also be that there's no electricity feeding that area. Either it was intentional to demoralize the citizens, or damaged from warfare. Perhaps it's just the data center that's running off backup power, but for how long?

Re:Link is up. Layer 8 is down. (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 3 years ago | (#35383506)

I posted what I know here

Except - you don't seem to actually know anything. All you've got is a collection of links pretty much doing nothing but repeating what we already know - internet traffic to Libya is down.

Vector without math (1)

Adam Appel (1991764) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382288)

2 of 5 is not a flatline. It's 40%.

Re:Vector without math (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382440)

It's 60% still working, or up to 100%, if there's redundancy among them.

Re:Vector without math (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35386004)

2 of the 2 root servers in Libya are unreachable. That is a flatline for the " Libyan Internet".

Anticipation? (1)

metrometro (1092237) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382806)

A few days ago, Comcast stop serving .ly addresses in Chicago for a few hours. Bit.ly told me (via thier Twitter team, who was pretty quick) that it was routing problem with Comcast. I had assumed that some root name servers were down, but at the time, they checked out fine on other ISPs.

I kind of feel like these things might be related, like tinkering with the .ly nameservers to avoid the three in Libya, but I don't know enough about this to ask the right questions. Plausable?

As as aside, while troubleshooting this, bit.ly staff kept sending me shortlinks to solutions that I couldn't load because .ly timed out. Linkrot! Funny/scary.

No Access to Libyan Ghey Pr0n Online? (0)

hduff (570443) | more than 3 years ago | (#35382836)

Now what will the Libyan army do for the weekend? They have to work out that aggression somehow . . .

Re:No Access to Libyan Ghey Pr0n Online? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35383014)

Now what will the Libyan army do for the weekend? They have to work out that aggression somehow . . .

Use gaddafi the giraffe as a pinyatta?

This is no fun without MG supporters (1)

Tokolosh (1256448) | more than 3 years ago | (#35383368)

If you post in a vaguely supportive way about Wikileaks, the law and order jarheads emerge and a robust (but depressing) conversation ensues. Here we have no opposing viewpoint from Qaddafi and his toadies, which removes all the charm from reading /.

Just depressing. (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 3 years ago | (#35383826)

In other news from Libya protesters where attacked with machine guns and mortars. In know compared to cutting the internet that is minor but just thought I would throw that in. I fear that this one of those cases when I was right and a wished I was wrong. After Egypt I made the comment that I feared that the dictators where learning that they couldn't be just a little evil. Looks like I was right. That and it looks like Regan was right as well. After he had proof that Libya had been behind the terrorist bombing in Germany he ordered a strike. Too bad that SOB Bettino Craxi decided to warn Libya.

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  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>