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Android Copy of Danish Man Unveiled

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the filled-with-chese dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "The Geminoid family, a series of ultra-realistic androids, each a copy of a real person, has a new member: Geminoid DK, a robot clone of a Danish researcher and the most realistic Geminoid yet. The robot has lifelike facial features and movements, blinking, smiling, frowning with incredible realism. The Danish researcher, Henrik Scharfe of Aalborg University, teamed up with Japanese animatronics firm Kokoro and roboticist Hiroshi Ishiguro to create his robot twin, which he plans to use to study human-robot interaction and cultural differences in the perception of robots. This is the first Geminoid that is not based on a Japanese person; it's also the first bearded one."

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Can you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35401700)

f**k it?

Re:Can you... (4, Funny)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401852)

Ah yes. Japanese and Danes. The most expressive people on planet earth.

When they make an Italian, wake me up.

Re:Can you... (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402184)

i imagine bigger movements would be easier to model, not harder.

that's why there's more good theatre actors than film actors. when you're right up close, the slightest movement can give it away.

Re:Can you... (1)

nanospook (521118) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402188)

HAHAHAHA!! Oh sorry :)

Re:Can you... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402394)

HAHAHAHA!! Oh sorry :)

sounds like a nigger in a movie theater.

except the "oh sorry" part. niggers never said that before and they ain't about to.

nigger.

Re:Can you... (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402370)

Bah! Only when they make a copy of the most perfect being Alyson Hannigan [theonion.com] will their skills be proven!

BTW Japanese and Danish researchers, when you have proven your skills to replicate perfection.....I'd like a Season Two Willow with the "Vamp Willow" outfit? And I'll pay extra if you can program it to wake me with the "What's my name bitch?" routine, just the way to get a body going, along with having it have steaks ready when I get home. Thanks and let me know what you need for a deposit.

Re:Can you... (1)

camperslo (704715) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403194)

You laugh now, but some are seriously looking at where robotics might go.
Perhaps those talented Cal Poly students will soon be giving life to more than New Years' day parade floats?

http://www.calpolynews.calpoly.edu/news_releases/2011/February/robots.html [calpoly.edu]

Kinda gives a new angle to the notion of robotic overlords....

Some fear robots becoming self-aware, but them being used against us by other humans might come first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf0jlzVCyOI [youtube.com]

Re:Can you... (1)

Walt Dismal (534799) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403706)

Unfortunately, the CIA is ahead of these researchers, having fielded the Osama Bin Laden robotic duplicate years ago. To see how realistic it is, watch any purported Al Qaeda videotape.

realistic looking (4, Insightful)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401712)

I was at first shocked at how realistic this was, but then I realized that I probably was thinking that because they didn't model as a young Japanese woman with perfect skin. Seriously, there are so many robot heads modelled that way, real young Japanese women are almost starting to seem robotic.

Re:realistic looking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35401922)

Well... As a guy, I'm waiting for the young Japanese female robot with working pussy and mouth...

Re:realistic looking (5, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402122)

Well... As a guy, I'm waiting for the young Japanese female robot with working pussy and mouth...

And as a Slashdotter, you're probably also waiting for it to come with realistic fur and a tail.

Re:realistic looking (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402264)

And as a /b/tard, he's probably waiting for it to come in child sizes.

Re:realistic looking (1)

fast turtle (1118037) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402580)

Nope. I'd rather have it with pointed ears and black hair. Either Lt. Savik or 7of9 though I wouldn't turn down a Xena version if given to me.

Re:realistic looking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402272)

Well... As a guy, I'm waiting for the young Japanese female robot with working pussy and mouth...

OK [realdoll.com]

Re:realistic looking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402282)

I show my girlfriends bukkake videos and tell them those girls are over 50 as proof as to the miracle properties of taking a facial.

Re:realistic looking (2)

v1 (525388) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402514)

I was also extremely impressed. Until you see some of the jerky movements a bit into the demo, there's no way you'd think it wasn't real. Realisting looking hair. Even the teeth are naturally a little uneven. None of that "final fantasy plastic skin" CGI look at all. The skin and hair look great.

I don't understand why it's taken this long to figure out those basic concepts. Maybe they were getting a lot of "I don't know, it just doesn't look REAL" from people, but I know if they'd have asked ME I'd have told them immediately several issues they needed to fix. And this seems to address most of them. Right now the jerky major movements are the biggest issue.

Re:realistic looking (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402914)

I might suggest considering this viewpoint: producing someone with perfect skin is more of a challenge, and efforts like Geminoid DK mask those issues with flaws. If you stare at all of the stills on that page for long enough, you'll still see the slight unnaturalness of the android. Particularly of point is the translucence of the skin: check out the effect shown off in this link [renderosity.com] . In several of the head-on shots of the android, it looks like he's being lit from behind in a similar manner, even though the rest of the scene isn't lit in such a way as to permit that. There are still objective defects; it's not merely a matter of setting the bar lower for the design.

But I'll certainly agree with you: that's damn minor, and everything else is fantastically indistinguishable, except the way the head rattles slightly after a sudden movement.

Re:realistic looking (2)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403670)

realistic looking is just a trick of the eye for few seconds.

but it's easy. I mean, it's just an artisan straightforward job to make it look "real", it's not even a triumph if they manage it - except if they plan a career in special effects. the article could be renamed "boring danish geezer orders an animatronic from a japanese company with his face with public danish funds".

the rest of it, making it act like a man when nobody knows how a man should act is quite different. it can frown now, but it's just a clockwork animation, my sock puppet can laugh too.

Confusing title (5, Funny)

zill (1690130) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401714)

Android Copy of Danish Man Unveiled

OK, who else thought "Danish Man" was the name of game that's being ported to Android?

Re:Confusing title (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401742)

Android Copy of Danish Man Unveiled

OK, who else thought "Danish Man" was the name of game that's being ported to Android?

I thought some Danish man's Android phone data had been leaked.

Re:Confusing title (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402116)

Well I'm pretty hungry so I thought that it was a pastry game coming out for android.

Re:Confusing title (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35401756)

I assumed Danish Man was one of the increasingly bizarre titles for the latest version of Android.

Re:Confusing title (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35401942)

I assumed Danish Man was one of the increasingly bizarre titles for the latest version of Android.

It was either that or sticky bun.

Re:Confusing title (2)

wierd_w (1375923) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402270)

The adventures of Danish Man and Bun Boy, in "The sticky sweetness of the uncanny valley!" Coming to an Android platform near you!

Re:Confusing title (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35403302)

> I assumed Danish Man was one of the increasingly bizarre titles for the latest version of Android.

2 Cupcakes, 1 Danish Man.

Re:Confusing title (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401962)

OK, who else thought "Danish Man" was the name of game that's being ported to Android?

*Meekly raises hand*

Re:Confusing title (4, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402132)

Android Copy of Danish Man Unveiled

OK, who else thought "Danish Man" was the name of game that's being ported to Android?

Not me, but frankly we're more likely to see androids being built than popular games being ported to Android.

Re:Confusing title (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402248)

It's a great game. You work at a cooperative and low-key chair manufacturing company, receive socialized medicine, and live a quiet and blameless existence.

Re:Confusing title (1)

Fysx (1992304) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402340)

Android Copy of Danish Man Unveiled

OK, who else thought "Danish Man" was the name of game that's being ported to Android?

I dunno, I was thinking a guy who eats Danishes as a game. :)

Re:Confusing title (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402748)

I actually thought "The Danish Man" was a name for some book that is somehow so important that I should have heard of it. Apparently not.

Re:Confusing title (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402920)

I thought it was a going to be a story about a Danish translation of Android's man pages.

Re:Confusing title (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35403234)

Totally. And then I started wondering about the gameplay of 'Danish Man' and got the jibblies.

can you download the app in the official market? (2)

youn (1516637) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401732)

am I the only one who thought it was more news about google's smarphone/tablet platform? :)

androids are cool... but definitely fooled me for half a second

FYI:Geminoid (2)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401736)

Just an FYI folks: "Geminoid" is a registered trademark of Advanced Telecommunications Research Institute International.

But (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35401764)

The shark still looks fake.

babys/LSI/world+dog in /. censorship 'timeout' (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35401788)

not much we can do about that?

we have some intentions though;

1. DEWEAPONIZATION (not a real word, but they like it) almost nothing else good happens until some progress here.

2. ALL BABYS CREATED/TO BE TREATED, EQUALLY. (a rough interpretation (probably cost us. seems like a no-brainer but they expressed that we fail on that one too(:)->) 'we do not need any 300$ 'strollers', or even to ride in your smelly cars/planes etc..., until such time as ALL of the creators' innocents have at least food, shelter, & some loving folks nearby.' again, this is a deal breaker, so pay attention, that's cheap enough, & could lead to our survival?

3. THOU SHALT NOT VACCINATE IRRESPONSIBLY. this appears to be a stop-gap intention.

the genuine feelings expressed included; in addition to the lack of acknowledgment of the advances/evolution of our tiny bodies/dna (including consciousness & intellect), almost nobody knows anymore what's in those things (vaccines) (or they'd tell us), & there's rumor much of it is less than good (possibly fatal) for ANY of us. if it were good for us we'd be gravitating towards it, instead of it being shoved in our little veins, wrecking them, & adversely affecting our improving immune systems/dna/development? at rite-aid, they give the mommies 100$ if they let them stick their babys with whoknowswhat? i can see why they're (the little ones) extremely suspicious? they're also asking that absolutely nobody be allowed to insert those corepirate nazi 'identity' 'chips' in their tiny frames. they know who they, and we, are, much better than we ever will? many, oddly? have fading inclinations to want to be reporters of nefarious life threatening processes, ie. 'conspiracies', as they sincerely believe that's 'stuff that REALLY matters', but they KNOW that things are going to be out in the open soon, so they intend to put their ever increasing consciousness, intellect, acute/astute senses & information gathering abilities, to the care & feeding of their fellow humans. no secrets to cover up with that goal.

4. AN END TO MANUFACTURED 'WEATHER'.

sortie like a no-(aerosol tankers)-fly zone being imposed over the whole planet. the thinking is, the planet will continue to repair itself, even if we stop pretending that it's ok/nothing's happening. after the weather manipulation is stopped (& it will be) it could get extremely warm/cold/blustery some days. many of us will be moving inland..., but we'll (most of us anyway) be ok, so long as we keep our heads up. conversely, the manufactured 'weather' puts us in a state of 'theater' that allows US to think that we needn't modify our megaslothian heritage of excessiveness/disregard for ourselves, others, what's left of our environment etc...? all research indicates that spraying chemicals in the sky is 100% detrimental to our/planet's well being (or they'd talk to US about it?). as for weather 'extremes', we certainly appear to be in a bleeding rash of same, as well as all that bogus seismic activity, which throws our advanced tiny baby magnets & chromosomes into crisis/escape mode, so that's working? we're a group whose senses are more available to us (like monkeys?) partly because we're not yet totally distracted by the foibles of man'kind'. the other 'part' is truly amazing. we saw nuclear war being touted on PBS as an environmental repair tool (?depopulation? (makes the babys' 'accountants' see dark red:-(-? yikes. so what gives? thanks for your patience & understanding while we learn to express our intentions. everybody has some. let us know. come to some of our million baby play-dates. no big hurry? catch your breath. we'll wait a bit more. thanks.

do the math. check out YOUR dna/intentional healing potential. thanks again.

Re:babys/LSI/world+dog in /. censorship 'timeout' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35401882)

I see this drivel sometimes. Is it a human troll? a human schizophrenic? A chatterbot fed on conspiracy sites?

Re:babys/LSI/world+dog in /. censorship 'timeout' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402004)

It's a glitch in the matrix.

Re:babys/LSI/world+dog in /. censorship 'timeout' (1)

Skidborg (1585365) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402078)

It's probably a government agent trying to subvert the cause, but failing because nobody can tell what the cause is from their inane postings.

Nope (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35401790)

That's no android.

Been there done that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35401800)

So the researchers are catching up with what Hollywood has been doing for years. The Japanese ones always seemed so lame compared to what we've been doing in Hollywood for many years. This latest one of the Danish man is much better but the beard still looks like hair plugs. They could have saved years of effort just taking a trip to tinsel town. Even the facial expressions are still not up to current film technology.

Re:Been there done that (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402140)

So the researchers are catching up with what Hollywood has been doing for years.

Hollywood has not been building automated puppets for years. Go pick up a book called The Stan Winston Effect and see for yourself. If you're feeling especially interested in reseaching this, go look up what it takes to become a 'puppeteer'.

!ultra (3, Insightful)

Troll-Under-D'Bridge (1782952) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401834)

The Geminoid family, a series of ultra-realistic androids, each a copy of a real person, has a new member

A bit realistic perhaps, but definitely not ultra. I've bothered to actually watch the fine video, and the movements are still on the near side of the creepy valley. As for its classification as an android, really, it's not even a talking head, just little more than an animated wax dummy, able to blink and sigh but incapable of a decent conversation. The main use I see for this is in big budget Hollywood movies where you have to blow up your star actor. But CG can service that department fairly well already.

Re:!ultra (1)

digitalhermit (113459) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401984)

I can see other uses in the far future. Many people prefer to interact with humanoid devices. Whether it's an animated cartoon or an automaton, *some* people are more comfortable speaking to a face, even if it's a robot, than typing commands or talking into a machine. Obviously it's too expensive to put interactive robots into traditional human positions, but the things the researchers learn can help how other technology is designed. Maybe people expect a certain eye movement when someone asks a question. Maybe we can perceive blink rate and associate that with understanding or listening. Maybe we trust people more if their eyebrows arch when they smile.. or maybe it is uncanny.

Re:!ultra (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402348)

Johnny Cab?

Re:!ultra (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402664)

More like a robotic mannequin with turrets syndrome. Makes me wanna kick its ass. Perhaps they should include features of SlamMan while there at it.

Re:!ultra (4, Interesting)

HungryHobo (1314109) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403692)

surprisingly enough many people are almost the opposite.

If you get too far into the uncanny vally people can be hostile but stay well back and people will relate to machines just fine, they won't relate to them as people but they'll be fine thinking of them like really smart pets/animals.

I came across a lovely article a while back.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/05/AR2007050501009_pf.html [washingtonpost.com]

People are quite ready to treat machines as they would animals, even going so far as to consider something that's happening to a bot to be inhumane.

"The most effective way to find and destroy a land mine is to step on it.

This has bad results, of course, if you're a human. But not so much if you're a robot and have as many legs as a centipede sticking out from your body. That's why Mark Tilden, a robotics physicist at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, built something like that. At the Yuma Test Grounds in Arizona, the autonomous robot, 5 feet long and modeled on a stick-insect, strutted out for a live-fire test and worked beautifully, he says. Every time it found a mine, blew it up and lost a limb, it picked itself up and readjusted to move forward on its remaining legs, continuing to clear a path through the minefield.

Finally it was down to one leg. Still, it pulled itself forward. Tilden was ecstatic. The machine was working splendidly.

The human in command of the exercise, however -- an Army colonel -- blew a fuse.

The colonel ordered the test stopped.

Why? asked Tilden. What's wrong?

The colonel just could not stand the pathos of watching the burned, scarred and crippled machine drag itself forward on its last leg.

This test, he charged, was inhumane. "

It might be easier to get people to bond to a machine as they would a guidedog rather than as they would to another human.

The veteran explosives technician looming over Bogosh was visibly upset. He insisted he did not want a new robot. He wanted Scooby-Doo back.

"Sometimes they get a little emotional over it," Bogosh says. "Like having a pet dog. It attacks the IEDs, comes back, and attacks again. It becomes part of the team, gets a name. They get upset when anything happens to one of the team. They identify with the little robot quickly. They count on it a lot in a mission."

Re:!ultra (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403700)

so it's an ui for people who wish everything could be done by telling your slave to do it? it wouldn't be too expensive if they worked any better than a set of buttons to achieve all the things you could get the robot head to activate.

do you know what it _really_ is? it's a dayjob for about 2000 academics around the world who'd rather study what it feels like to watch a mannequin than do real science, paid for by taxes. the same guys who think touch panels are high tech and need similar study(while totally ignoring that touchscreens etc such are used in control elements because they're a freaky lot cheaper than wiring gazillion buttons and relays). the same guys who think wearable electronics is a field of science(flexible materials, yeah, that I would count as something, but studying for 2 years what it feels like to wear a jacket that has an integrated watch is not).

also the same jerks come up with metaphor ui's as if they were easier than a simple tick in a box. who on earth would like to manouver through an animation of making coffee to get coffee from a coffee machine? nobody. who on earth would like moving your grass feel like pushing a lawnmower even if it's actually done by a robot? well, these friggin guys.

Re:!ultra (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402022)

big budget Hollywood movies where you have to blow up your star actor

if he's a Scientologist then who cares?

Re:!ultra (4, Funny)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402144)

big budget Hollywood movies where you have to blow up your star actor

if he's a Scientologist then who cares?

Perfect - A movie starring Charlie Sheen, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Tom Cruise, where Cruise gets blown up. You could call it Mission:Impossible - Two and a Half Men!

Re:!ultra (1)

pavon (30274) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402202)

The video shown is just the mechanical test; exercising each type of movement individually to see if it works. The other Geminoid robots have had smoother head motion than that, so I am eager to see how this one looks when it is done.

Re:!ultra (1)

petitegeek (1765308) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402620)

it's not even a talking head, just little more than an animated wax dummy, able to blink and sigh but incapable of a decent conversation.

It *is* capable of decent conversation. The guy controlling it just needs to talk -- consider it a way better version of AnyBots or any other telepresence robot. The only thing lacking is a huge portable air compressor to lug around the office :D Oh, pneumatics.

Re:!ultra (2)

Hojima (1228978) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403032)

I've bothered to actually watch the fine video, and the movements are still on the near side of the creepy valley.

Saying that it's a bit creepy is like saying that Nazis are a bit anti-semitic. If I saw that thing in my room I wouldn't rest until a priest douses its ashes with holy water.

Re:!ultra (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403132)

The Geminoid family, a series of ultra-realistic androids, each a copy of a real person, has a new member

A bit realistic perhaps, but definitely not ultra.

I agree, since this is a Japanese company, I'd say they've achieved S Class animatronics [tvtropes.org] ...( not Ultra, and certainly not over 9000! )

The jerky movements aside (it's a rough mechanical test), once its software is fine tuned I could see something like this hooked up to something like IBM's Watson (but with opinions & emotions instead of just answers in the form of questions).

Personally, I'm looking at the cyborg implications -- Take today's synthetic lungs, heart pumps, dialysis, and IV nutrient delivery and combine it with a thought control input device to control the robotic shell, and I'm one step closer to putting my brain in a robot body. [adultswim.com]

Animatronic vs. Robot (4, Insightful)

orkysoft (93727) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401860)

This robot is really just an animatronic device, like they have at Disneyland (or so I hear). It's controlled by someone behind the scenes using a computer. The purpose is to study how people interact with it, knowing that it's not real. The interesting thing about regular robots is that they're supposed to control themselves, and research concentrates not just on designing new kinds of sensors and actuators (limbs) and body plans, but especially the software to control them.

Still, it looks very impressive, but I'm not sure how this progresses the development of sensors, actuators, or control software. It seems more like a sophisticated crafts project to me. Are the researchers also going to have test subjects interact with a non-realistic human-shaped robot to see how they react to it, to compare with the realistic looking one?

Re:Animatronic vs. Robot (1)

Troll-Under-D'Bridge (1782952) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402082)

The interesting thing about regular robots is that they're supposed to control themselves

I'm not sure what you mean by regular robot. But there are precedents for remotely controlled robots, both in science fiction and real life. E.g. the battle droids [starwars.com] of the Trade Federation in the Star Wars prequels appear to be remote controlled:

"These droids would blindly obey orders spoken to them by their commanders or transmitted to them from an orbital Droid Control ship. The efforts of Bravo Squadron, and Anakin Skywalker in particular, destroyed the Droid Control Ship, thereby rendering the army useless."

The droids may have had some sensory autonomy but were largely "mindless", pretty much like a phone "app" whose data processing back end is in the cloud.

The robonaut [nasa.gov] that was sent up to the ISS [wikipedia.org] is basically a telepresence device, a telerobot [wikipedia.org] if you will. And of course there are the unglamorous industrial robots that are all tools and arms.

Re:Animatronic vs. Robot (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402866)

The droids may have had some sensory autonomy but were largely "mindless", pretty much like a phone "app" whose data processing back end is in the cloud.

While irrevelevant to the article I thought to still stick my neck here: the droids still seem to process all the sensory-local data themselves, only co-ordinating with the Control ship such elements as they deem necessary. A billion droids sending all sensory data to the Control ship every millisecond would require such amounts of bandwidth that it would be completely impossible to achieve. Thus the droids are mostly in control of themselves.

One could also argue that it's the Control ship that itself is the robot, and all the droids are only its extremities; a plausible claim considering that there is no requirement for all the parts that make up the robot to be physically connected by definition, or that the parts can't have any level of autonomy.

Personally, I think we need clearer definitions.

Re:Animatronic vs. Robot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402752)

What the fuck is wrong with you? Aside from pointing out the obvious as explained clearly in the article, your whole premise is based around the fact that it's not the final destination, therefore it's shit.

Small minded assholes like you should take a good look at yourselves and realize that your lack of enthusiasm is a detriment to human progress.

Not Quite Human (2)

nmb3000 (741169) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401872)

The pictures and video are pretty interesting, but also awfully short. It would be neat to see some combined expressions rather than just simple blinking and mouth movement. Speaking of the movement in the video, was anyone else reminded of Not Quite Human [imdb.com] ? Haven't thought about that movie in quite a while :)

Also, can anyone say "uncanny valley" [ieee.org] ? They've definitely made progress, but there's still something... not quite right about it. Considering that the easiest part of creating an android is probably the static external features such as skin, hair, and eyes (lots of practice from movie/TV makeup), it's interesting that a still photo still triggers the cues which tell us "that's not real."

Now only a few things left to do:

1. Create an evil twin bent death, carnage, and annihilation
3. ???
4. Profit! (well, that, or doom the human race)

Re:Only a few things lefft to do (1)

sconeu (64226) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402014)

1. Evil twin. Been done [imdb.com] . (OK, by someone else, not the person being "twinned").

Did nobody else think of the "Evil Robot Us-es"?

Re:Not Quite Human (1)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402312)

They've definitely made progress, but there's still something... not quite right about it. Considering that the easiest part of creating an android is probably the static external features such as skin, hair, and eyes (lots of practice from movie/TV makeup), it's interesting that a still photo still triggers the cues which tell us "that's not real."

Actually, I think he looks perfectly real, as long as it's a still shot and his mouth is closed. The movements look wrong, and the mouth looks off even in a still shot if it's open, which I'm guessing is related somehow to how they're controlling the movement -- it doesn't quite properly simulate every last facial muscle that's involved, and so even in a still shot, with the mouth open not everything's where it's supposed to be.

Re:Not Quite Human (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402802)

I'm more bothered by the eyes. I think, though I may be incorrect here, that with human eyes, they do not open at exactly the same time. They open with some independent variations of speed and timing per eye. Which isn't to say that they are far off here, only that with human eyes there is some degree of...randomness to the timings, in much the same way that you don't pronounce every word exactly the same way you did the moment before.

Re:Not Quite Human (1)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402418)

I think it's the eyes. The eyes still don't quite seem "alive". Makes sense - the eyes are the most difficult thing to replicate. It certainly is in video games - the shader code for eyes alone is usually larger than all the other shaders combined.

Honestly, though, I think if they got the movements done properly (and had a good intelligence behind the curtain, artificial or human), I would be able to converse with the thing as though it were human. It's that close. The poses themselves are convincing, it's just the changing between them that throws it all out. That might just be because it's still a demo, because they haven't figured out how to program fluid motion yet, or because of some hardware limitation - IANA robotics expert, so I wouldn't know what the case is.

Re:Not Quite Human (1)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403336)

The easiest Evil use for your robot twin is to have it sit calmly in a bar for an hour or two, while you commit whatever crime it is you want to commit. Presto, an airtight alibi is yours! (assuming you can get the robot into and out of the bar without anyone noticing, of course)

Just saying what you're thinking. (1)

WrongMonkey (1027334) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401958)

A robot doesn't have to perfectly mimic a human to be commercially viable, just be close enough to be convincing in the dark.

Re:Just saying what you're thinking. (3, Insightful)

Foobar of Borg (690622) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402102)

A robot doesn't have to perfectly mimic a human to be commercially viable, just be close enough to be convincing in the dark.

Actually, if it perfectly mimicked a human being, it wouldn't be economically viable. Imagine, after some robo-sex, the fem-bot starts asking "So, when do you want to get married?" or "Why can't we live together? There is no reason for us to pay two rents."

Why is this impressive? (1)

orphiuchus (1146483) | more than 3 years ago | (#35401964)

They basically managed to make a so-so statue of someone that can move its eyes and mouth awkwardly? Unless this thing can walk around and crack-wise I'd be way more impressed by, say, a working Johnny 5.

Re:Why is this impressive? (1)

Kenoli (934612) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403282)

My thoughts exactly. The people developing these things always seem to put far too much emphasis on the skin of the robot. It looks pretty good and all, but it may as well be a wax sculpture. It can't demonstrate any behavior that might pass as even remotely human-like.

Sex with yourself (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35401970)

While thinking about androids for sex, I just had a horrifying thought of me having sex with myself. Now I need a drink.

Re:Sex with yourself (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402342)

Well if you had a clone of yourself, had sex with it, Would it be insect or masturbation? ;)

HAHA this is SADDAM HUSSEIN (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402002)

I didn't die. ha ha

Keanu Reeves (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402038)

Hmmm. It has really limited range of expressions. The mouth is totally unconvincing. Could it pucker? Ha! I will admit that the features around the eyes move pretty nicely.

I was trying to imagine who this technology might be able to replicate and it hit me. Keanu Reeves. He displays only slightly greater range of expressions than these weird moving mannequins do. If you could get it to do mild bemusement, mild surprise, and a stoner grin, then you'd have everything you need.

Androids (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402306)

These are not the androids you are looking for.

If only Asimov was alive to see this (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402440)

He's no R. Daneel Olivaw, but he certainly might /look/ like him.

Re:If only Asimov was alive to see this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35402654)

On a hunch I plugged "R. Daneel Olivaw" into an anagram generator. It says it's an anagram for "weird anal love." Hmm, let's try that again...

Obligatory HHTG (1)

trudyscousin (258684) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402500)

"You'd just have to programme it to say What? and I don't understand and Where's the tea? Who'd know the difference?"

That's what came to mind when I saw the Geminoid's expressions.

Missing Tag (1)

Khyber (864651) | more than 3 years ago | (#35402910)

Uncanny Valley.

Except I can tell the movements are fake. However, The realism in the expressions once frozen is quite believable. They need to get some better PWM for controlling the eyelid movement and smoothing it out.

Do Danish androids.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35403192)

dream of electric pastries?

Someone has to ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35403324)

Can you fuck it?

Re:Someone has to ask (1)

ckeo (220727) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403430)

http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/funktionide-hints-at.html

"Designer Stefan Ulrich has come up with what could be an early prototype of a real body pillow girlfriend. He calls it Funktionide, an "emotional robot" that changes form depending on how you hold it. Combined with advanced robotics, this could yield something that is soft, cuddly, humanoid, and capable of intelligent conversation. Yes, and it breathes"

Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35403526)

Looks like we've arrived at the point androids no longer look like robots pretending to be human, but like humans pretending to be robot.
Expect music videos spoofing this one in 3... 2... 1........

Data upload (2)

macraig (621737) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403588)

I think Brent Spiner should be Geminoided next. Can you imagine the convention possibilities? Trekkies everywhere will be wetting their pants.

Incredible realism? (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 3 years ago | (#35403648)

About 2 seconds into the vid clips you can tell it's a creepy robot. I suppose some of the stills might fool you at first glance.
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