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IOS 4.3 Now Available For Download

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the get-it-while-it's-hot dept.

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tekgoblin writes "Apple has just released iOS 4.3 for download from iTunes. The update from Apple includes enhancements to Apple Airplay, Safari, iPad side switch, and the Personal hotspot feature for the iPhone 4. I personally welcome the feature to make the 'mute button' on the iPad back into the screen orientation lock."

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Feature... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437094)

I personally welcome the feature to make the 'mute button' on the iPad back into the screen orientation lock.

lol

Re:Feature... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437112)

somebody failed engrish

Unwanted feature - the D word (1, Interesting)

recoiledsnake (879048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437450)

A feature I wish it didn't come with... 30% of subscription revenues from "publishers" like Netflix, Amazon Kindle etc.

See http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fasterforward/2011/02/apple_30_percent_subscription_tax.html [washingtonpost.com]

An app was already pulled for not paying up: http://blog.readability.com/2011/02/an-open-letter-to-apple/ [readability.com]

Ironically it's the same app's OSS code that Apple used to implement the Readability function in Safari...
http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2010/06/08/think-safari-reader-looks-familiar-thats-because-apple-used-op/ [switched.com]

I guess no company is exempt from extreme corporate greed... sad to see other companies(especially little startups like Readability) get trampled on the way.

1. High margin sales of iDevices to iUsers
2. 30% of all app sales on all the iDevices by iUsers
3. 30% of all subscription revenue that all iUsers pay on all iDevices (will be implemented soon)
4. ???
5. Overtake oil baron Exxon Mobil as the world's largest publicly traded company with most market capitalization (well, gas prices are going up too.. will be interesting to see who wins this one)

Re:Unwanted feature - the D word (1)

Suki I (1546431) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437648)

Then I am way ahead with my iPhone 3G that is current with 4.2.1, sticking it to the 'korporazionz!' by not using any of the stuff you mention.

first post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437108)

first post

Oh boy! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437172)

14 year boys have delectable nards. Love to suck them....

The Apple Way (2, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437182)

You are not fit to use Apple products because your desires run counter to the "Apple Way". Only the most cretinous of slack jawed yokels would suggest Apple's change to a mute button is anything but insanely great magically different genius.

"I personally welcome the feature to make the 'mute button' on the iPad back into the screen orientation lock."

Oops, never mind. Welcome back into the fold.

Re:The Apple Way (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437210)

My Android phone can be modified so I can have any button run any feature I want. I'll show you once I'm allowed to update it....

Re:The Apple Way (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437430)

Might be relevant to Digg, not Slashdot. People here don't need to be "officially allowed" to modify their Android or iPhone.

...or that's how it used to be. People change, even /. readers.

Re:The Apple Way (2)

bonch (38532) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437222)

I know you're being facetious, but what exactly is the basis for the premise that people who disagree with the way Apple does something are insulted and ridiculed? Even Apple fans constantly bitch about what Apple does. In fact, this change is due to customer demand, which means a lot of Apple fans made their voices known.

Re:The Apple Way (2)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437392)

I know you're being facetious, but what exactly is the basis for the premise that people who disagree with the way Apple does something are insulted and ridiculed?

Popularity-fueled-caricature.

Re:The Apple Way (1)

pitchpipe (708843) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437452)

Even Apple fans constantly bitch about what Apple does

Of course this is done with only the purest of Apple thoughts in their head, and even these Apple fans are walking a thin line.

Seriously: why anyone becomes a fanboy for a corporation is something I'll never fathom.

Re:The Apple Way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437650)

I'm almost convinced it's a mental defect. You see the same thing with game studios and publishers. Perhaps it's the religious gene, predisposing people to love/hate corporations they affiliate with.

Re:The Apple Way (1)

justin12345 (846440) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437864)

Seriously: why anyone becomes a fanboy for a corporation is something I'll never fathom.

Sometimes they own the company's stock. My uncle is a big Apple fan partially because made him significantly more money then he ever spent on their products (and he has a lot of Macs).

Re:The Apple Way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437406)

You know, it was not that long ago that MS would storm the office where I was to insure that they were not usinglegally licensed MS software in a way that was counter to what they wanted. The reason they were able to do that is because of the BSA threat of terrorism. If MS had to use force to audit the computers, and if one item were found out of compliance, the firm would be crippled. So it was cheaper to pay the protection fee. This and many internet firms were soon bankrupt. Not because of a bad business plan, they had plenty of customers, but because the proprietary and piecewise software model which was prevalent for about 25 years, under MS, does not work. Buying stuff from multiple companies, with the company at the center unwilling to support anything, and keeping up with all those licenses, just wastes company resources that should be focused on the core business, which in most cases is not keeping up licensees.

The nice thing is that I can buy an Apple and do a lot with it. I know many will say that Apples can't be upgraded, but they can and I do. The connectivity is awesome, which allows external connectivity. When I upgrade a machine, I am not told that I am a thief. Most Apple products can be bought cheaply and will run on multiple machines. That way I can have multiple macs or iStuff, and I do not have to worry about licenses. I can worry about getting work done. Now, the same is true with any *nix, but that involves a whole other set of issues. Not bad, just existing.

Then there are the issues with other devices. Google can evidently kill any program on an Android device without the user approval. This is very, very, bad as it gives Google control that no third party should have of a device that I own. Sure, one can theoretically disable that ability if I pay enough for the android device, but we can get freedom from Apple the same way.

The thing is that "The Apple Way" FUD is exactly the same as what MS uses to keep people off *nix, and what Google is using to attract users to the equally scary Android world. The mute button thing was a minor inconvenience which did not keep anyone from doing anything, and proves that users really do not have anything to fear. Apple listens to customers, because the end user is the customer. On Android the end user is not the customer, the telco is.

IOS 4.3 Now Available For Download (-1, Redundant)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437204)

"Apple has just released iOS 4.3 for download from iTunes. The update from Apple includes enhancements to Apple Airplay, Safari, iPad side switch, and the Personal hotspot feature for the iPhone 4. I personally welcome the feature to make the 'mute button' on the iPad back into the screen orientation lock."

Thanks for the heads' up, Arn!

Oh, wait - wrong website...

Re:IOS 4.3 Now Available For Download (0)

bonch (38532) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437330)

Are you implying that Slashdot shouldn't be posting about new versions of iOS? Why not?

Re:IOS 4.3 Now Available For Download (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35438256)

I wish Slashdot had an ignore option for people like you. You post constantly, hijacking threads, and have yet to make a point that doesn't make you sound like a huge douchebag.

Manufacturer updates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437214)

So remind us again - how are those manufacturers coming with those Android 2.3 updates to their phones, boys?!

Why I ultimately got an iPhone 4 (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437304)

I didn't want to be dependent on AT&T and Samsung to push out an Android update and I didn't want to have to root my phone on day one.
I choose an iPhone 4 because for all it's suck Apple is in control of OS updates not AT&T.

Re:Why I ultimately got an iPhone 4 (1)

Malc (1751) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437826)

Yeah, my gf has an Android based from Samsung. I don't think it's had an OS upgrade from them. At least Apple keep pushing the updates to current and older phones without expecting you to buy a newer model. Also, Samsung's software (Keyes or something like that) is absolutely horrible to use (yes, worse than iTunes), and Windows only (we have a Mac at home). It's enough to put me off Samsung/Android.

Re:Manufacturer updates (1)

lactose99 (71132) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437412)

Don't know about you, but I got my 2.3 OTA update last week :)

Then again, I bought the phone straight from Google

Re:Manufacturer updates (1)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437572)

But 2.3 was "released" in December, so even buying direct from Google meant a 2-3 month wait on a phone barley a year old. iPhone 3GS owners (a phone nearly 2 years old now) got 4.3 the exact same day as everyone else.

To be fair (and before others point it out), Apple didn't release 4.3 for the Verizon iPhone yet. While the custom 4.2.6 build it shipped with has some of the 4.3 features, it doesn't have them all. So even Apple isn't perfect with getting updates out the door for all devices at once.

Re:Manufacturer updates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437698)

And how long was 4.3 delayed internally to deploy across phone variants?

Google could have simply waited 3 months, screwing the Nexus S buyers in the process, and you wouldn't have an argument.

Re:Manufacturer updates (1)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437848)

Fair counterpoint Mr. AC, though having followed the development cycle of 4.3, it didn't delay the release by months. Apple does have the advantage of controlling the hardware and software side, and since the hardware is overall pretty similar between all iOS devices, it's easy to make a release work across them all.

Similarly, Apple, and Microsoft have no issues releasing OS updates across the board. They set up their release procedures to ensure 10.6.7 or Windows 7 SP1 will launch at the same time for everyone. Google just simply hasn't put in the effort needed to unify updates across their own supported devices, much less the devices 3rd parties make using their OS. It is possible, but Google just doesn't do it.

I can't in good faith go buy an Android device and expect it to be running the newest and latest OS, including any security fixes the updates might bring. The Google supported G1 was abandoned at 1.6, the Nexus One isn't getting timely updates even being a fully official Google device, and 3rd party routes are way worse. Until Google improves their track record here, Android remains a hackers toy in my eye. Google wants Android to be seen as a professional OS and ecosystem, but until they smooth out these processes, I can't see it as such.

Re:Manufacturer updates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437942)

Well to be fair, 2.3 was a larger architectural upgrade than SP1, and the iOS 4.3 update has nothing on it. But you're right, if Google had simply devoted more attention to the N1, they could have cut that time to weeks.

Re:Manufacturer updates (1)

mikkelm (1000451) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437420)

Got mine last week, thanks.

Xcode no longer free (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437238)

The bigger news today is that Apple has decided that developing for iOS or the Mac, without even submitting anything to their respective app stores, is now no longer free. Developers registered in the $99 iOS or Mac developer program get it as part of their subscription, but all others have to pay $4.99 [apple.com] now.

While $4.99 is chump change, it just seems like an odd thing to do and comes across as greedy. Seriously, they aren't going to make any significant amount of money from this, so why bother? I can't imagine what they were thinking. All it does is serve as yet another roadblock, albeit low-priced, to getting into the walled garden. I imagine a lot of young, aspiring developers will see this and look elsewhere instead. Maybe that's a good thing?

Re:Xcode no longer free (0)

bonch (38532) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437278)

First of all, I'd hardly call $5 for a complete development suite "greedy." For comparison, Visual Studio Ultimate costs $11,899. Second, Chris Lattner of Apple said that the charge is due to accounting rules which state that the product is new enough not to count as a free update. Apple has had to charge a couple of bucks for updates in the past for this reason.

Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

InsertWittyNameHere (1438813) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437378)

Doesn't make sense... Will the next version of iTunes, IE, firefox, Ubuntu, etc cost $4.99?

Re:Xcode no longer free (4, Insightful)

hsmith (818216) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437408)

Yet, Apple disallows developers from charging for updates.

Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

dakameleon (1126377) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437658)

Apple doesn't allow charging for updates (yet), but that doesn't stop developers from working around it. Tweetie 1.0 was succeeded by a different version as 2.0, for which the user would need to pay $2 again.

Of course, PC users are used to paying for updated versions, right?

Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437918)

Looking at the new versions of iTunes, they now talk about Free updates, so I'd guess they've got hooks in the system for paid update.

Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

praxis (19962) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437552)

Regardless of the amount, we're not talking about buying development software here, but for a yearly fee to install software you write on a device you own (are marketed as buying).

Re:Xcode no longer free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437670)

Yeah, imagine if Ford, GE, Maytag, Black & Decker, and all those other manufacturers started charging a fee for you to install software you write on a device you own!

What, you mean you can't do that, even for a fee? Stallman must be furious! When should we expect to witness the full wrath of a dozen or two angry neckbeards calling out the manufacturers of anything with a processor chip? I'm a busy guy, I need to schedule this stuff.

Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437692)

Actually, they're doing both. $99 for the year and $4.99 for the SDK.

Re:Xcode no longer free (4, Informative)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437892)

$99 a year is if you want to release apps via the App Store and have access to beta versions of the OS, along with professional developer support. The $99 includes XCode 4.

$4.99 is an accounting charge due to financial reforms passed after the Enron mess. XCode 3.x comes free with every Mac, and 4.x will come free with Lion, as it's cost is built into the overall cost of the OS.

Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437706)

For comparison, Visual Studio Express costs $0.

Re:Xcode no longer free (4, Informative)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437904)

And XCode 3.x is still free with any new Mac (required to run XCode anyhow). XCode 4 will return to free status when Lion ships. The $4.99 is simply an accounting fee due to Sarbanes–Oxley Act of 2002. Enough new features and functionality were added to XCode 4 to qualify it as a proper upgrade, and Apple hasn't been counting revenue from new Macs and OS X as "subscription" revenue needed to allow it to be released for free.

Re:Xcode no longer free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437854)

Do you even realize what VS Ultimate includes? Who it's targeted at (not individuals)? Comparing Xcode to it disingenuous in the extreme. That's like comparing AutoCAD to... Blender.

No wonder you always get marked troll.

Re:Xcode no longer free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437280)

That's funny, I just downloaded it for free (and anonymously) from their developer site.

Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

dakameleon (1126377) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437646)

Link?

Re:Xcode no longer free (2)

ZankerH (1401751) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437488)

Jesus christ, it's just an IDE. You can still develop Mac apps with vim and gcc.

Re:Xcode no longer free (5, Insightful)

1729 (581437) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437856)

Jesus christ, it's just an IDE. You can still develop Mac apps with vim and gcc.

Without XCode? Getting a working toolchain on OS X without first installing XCode (which includes gcc and binutils) is non-trivial.

Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

DeAngeloLampkin (1993582) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437986)

Developing an iOS based application without XCode is borderline impossible. It's more than "just an IDE". It does a lot of the organization of the various libraries and frameworks you interact with, as well as packaging of code.

So is it possible to develop iOS (or Mac or whatever) apps with just iOS? I suppose. Actually, I'd love to find a demo online of someone doing this. Regardless, even if you COULD get it to work, it'd be a massive, massive pain in the budunkadunk.

-DeAngelo
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Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

DeAngeloLampkin (1993582) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437734)

While the price is nominal, the gesture is kind of ridiculous. Between the need to pay to create apps and now pay to have the IDE, Apple seems to take an increasingly hostile attitude towards developers. But then, I guess they have the market position to do so.

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Re:Xcode no longer free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35438040)

But it gets you to put in a credit card number for iTunes. The well is then primed to spend more.

Re:Xcode no longer free (4, Informative)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438082)

The bigger news today is that Apple has decided that developing for iOS or the Mac, without even submitting anything to their respective app stores, is now no longer free.

Umm, charging $5 for the latest version of the dev tools is not equivalent to charging all developers for the Mac platform. You can use the older version of Xcode for free or you can use dozens of other tool kits from other vendors and pay Apple nothing.

While $4.99 is chump change, it just seems like an odd thing to do and comes across as greedy.

It is the result of US accounting law. They can't give it away for free and claim it as part of the cost of OS X as they have been since there are too many new features in it to pass muster. So they charge a minimal fee until the next OS X release then claim it is also rolled into the price of that OS for new users.

Seriously, they aren't going to make any significant amount of money from this, so why bother?

I think I just answered this.

I imagine a lot of young, aspiring developers will see this and look elsewhere instead. Maybe that's a good thing?

I suppose it's possible, or they'll use Eclipse or the older version of Xcode or any number of other toolkits.

Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

Microlith (54737) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438094)

It makes me wonder:
* Will it be included with 10.7? If not, then
* How long until the price goes up and
* Is Apple going to attempt to control how software is installed on OS X?

It's moves like this that made me reduce OS X to a minimal 32GB partition on my Macbook and install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, and make me avoid iOS products like the plague.

Re:Xcode no longer free (1)

indiechild (541156) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438180)

What's funny is that your ignorant and factually incorrect comment was modded up (you can still download Xcode 4 for free if you sign up for a free Apple developer account).

Only on Slashdot.

and XCODE is out for $4.95 ... yeah five bucks (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437264)

so if you don't like the current crop of apps just try out your hand with one of your own.

Which of course I keep telling myself I will do, one day, really.

Re:and XCODE is out for $4.95 ... yeah five bucks (1)

TrancePhreak (576593) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437564)

That's.... weird. I can download XCode for free from the developer website. It would seem they are just selling the OSX version. Yet the one that I download from the developer site includes iOS & OSX. So confusing.

Re:and XCODE is out for $4.95 ... yeah five bucks (1)

Anubis350 (772791) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437600)

The one you download from the dev site is either: A) A full copy of 4 because you have a currently paid dev account (in which case it's not free) -or- B) Xcode 3

Re:and XCODE is out for $4.95 ... yeah five bucks (1, Informative)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437766)

If you sign up for a free (as in $0) developer account, you can download Xcode 4 for free (as in $0) from the developer website.

Re:and XCODE is out for $4.95 ... yeah five bucks (1)

mmclure (26378) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437832)

Nope. You don't get free XCode 4 unless you're paying $100 a year for either a Mac or iOS Developer. The newest version of XCode you can get for free with a free developer account is XCode 3.

Re:and XCODE is out for $4.95 ... yeah five bucks (1)

indiechild (541156) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438168)

You're wrong. You can get Xcode 4 for free if you sign up for a free developer account and download it from Apple's Developer site.

Why they're selling it for $5 on the Mac App Store is beyond me.

Re:and XCODE is out for $4.95 ... yeah five bucks (1)

Wordplay (54438) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438286)

While this visit to the Argument Clinic is entertaining, you really can't download it gratis if you're just part of the Apple Developer Program. You need to specifically be subscribed into either Mac or iOS dev programs (i.e. the $99/yr subs). Either that, or the website is flat-out lying to me when I log in with my Apple ID and go to http://developer.apple.com/xcode/ [apple.com] . For me, that page tells me I'm not eligible, upsells me to the paid programs, and refers me to the App Store otherwise.

If you saw other behavior, perhaps there was a glitch while they switched over, it's different for outside the US, or some other variance.

Re:and XCODE is out for $4.95 ... yeah five bucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437610)

If you're a member of the Mac or iOS developer programs, you can still get Xcode for free. But they now charge plebeians US$5 for the developer tools. Either way, this is the first time Apple has ever charged for their developer tools since MPW.

Re:and XCODE is out for $4.95 ... yeah five bucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437828)

The $5 Mac App Store version includes the iOS SDK and development tools as well. I have no idea why they are now charging $5 for it, other than that they can.

If you've already paid to be in the Mac or iOS developer programs then you can download it from the dev center website for free, as was always the case.

iOS not IOS (5, Informative)

SimmyD (2012700) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437276)

Title had me confused with Cisco's IOS. Can we use proper names next time (iOS)?

Re:iOS not IOS (5, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437332)

Title had me confused with Cisco's IOS. Can we use proper names next time (iOS)?

How many people live with you in your cave?

Re:iOS not IOS (1)

SimmyD (2012700) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437382)

Haha just me, a lonely cisco engineer. Thanks for enquiring though :)

Re:iOS not IOS (4, Funny)

deniable (76198) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437726)

About 80% of the Internet.

Re:iOS not IOS (0)

Aqualung812 (959532) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438118)

Thank you, wish I had mod points.

Re:iOS not IOS (1)

sconeu (64226) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437396)

Considering that Cisco IOS is somewhere in version 12, this would be a rather *bad* "upgrade".

Re:iOS not IOS (1)

SimmyD (2012700) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437434)

Actually 15.1 now which gave me a slight heart attack >_

Re:iOS not IOS (1)

sconeu (64226) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437694)

Oh. Packet Tracer uses 12.something.

Re:iOS not IOS (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437778)

So do a lot of the Catalysts we're buying.

Re:iOS not IOS (1)

gratuitous_arp (1650741) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437760)

Agreed. At first it was just confusing, gets a bit annoying as it happens more and more. Oh well.

Interesting Timing (4, Interesting)

rock56501 (1301287) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437322)

Seems a bit interesting that Apple releases iOS 4.3 and an update to Safari just hours before PWN2OWN kicks off at CanSecWest...

Re:Interesting Timing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437502)

Would you like some hat with your tin foil?

Re:Interesting Timing (1)

Americano (920576) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437688)

Yeah, I bet Apple is totally rushing this out to avoid bad press from a conference that nobody in their target demographics has ever heard of.

"Personal Not So Hot Spot" for the 3GS (1)

ASDFnz (472824) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437328)

Just downloaded the update and turned on the "Personal Hostpot" feature on the 3GS.

It only works through USB or Bluetooth.

Re:"Personal Not So Hot Spot" for the 3GS (1)

CliffH (64518) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437720)

Uhm, no. Patently wrong. You must not have your WiFi turned on. Works on my system just fine through WiFi, my desktop system via WiFi, and my wife's Bluetooth-less HP laptop via WiFi just fine.

Re:"Personal Not So Hot Spot" for the 3GS (1)

CliffH (64518) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437744)

or I could have read "3GS" and kept my mouth shut :)

MICROSOFT leaving Phone Space (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437386)

Microsoft has thrown in the towel, saying Unkle, and taking the ball home with it. SighOnara, KinII.

Oh Sweet! (0)

Miseph (979059) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437394)

Now I get to not install this on my not overpriced phone!

Awesome!

operating system music (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437414)

Not all of us use iTunes. Let us know when we can download it on Windows Media Player, Winamp, VLC, Amarok or MPlayer. I didn't RTFA; what bit rate is iOS recorded in?

Jailbroke yet? (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437478)

Well, is it broke yet? Dont want to lose everything i have.

Has anyone confirmed Personal Hotspot? (1)

ptbarnett (159784) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437506)

I know that the 4.3 betas allowed use of the Personal Hotspot on AT&T, but is the feature actually available on the released version?

I'd like to drop my Sprint MiFi card and replace it with an iPhone 4 hotspot. But, I don't want to switch away from the unlimited data plan (to the 4 GB limit), only to find that it doesn't work.

Re:Has anyone confirmed Personal Hotspot? (1)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437588)

It works. I installed 4.3 and have WiFi hotspot working off my AT&T phone with tethering. Even tethered my iPad to it, and it showed a linked icon instead of WiFi signal strength when it connected.

Re:Has anyone confirmed Personal Hotspot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437594)

You realize you will be paying AT&T additionally money (I think ~$15) for the service, right?

Re:Has anyone confirmed Personal Hotspot? (2)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437764)

Yep, AT&T charges $20 extra for tethering a month. The device will force you to sign up before enabling it, so no issues with being charged accidentally.

Do I agree with tethering charges? Not really. But it makes it easier for me to do my job on the go, without worrying about jailbreaking my device and using another method that runs afoul of my contract with AT&T.

Time to jailbreak 3GS (3, Interesting)

kirkb (158552) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437536)

Usually, I'm quick to mod things (game consoles, etc), but for nearly two years I've stayed "legit" with my iPhone 3GS. I figured that as long as Apple gave me first-class features and updates, I'd stick with them.

I almost jailbroke when 4.2 came out because "find my phone" wasn't available (for free) on the 3GS, but luckily discovered a workaround to make it happen.
For 4.3, I was looking forward to the WiFi hotspot feature. But today, I discover that you only get this on the iPhone 4. The 3GS just keeps the same old USB and Bluetooth tethering, renamed to "personal hotspot".

I don't begrudge Apple for being unwilling/unable to add the coolest new features to the 3GS, but if the jailbreak community can take better care of me then I guess that's where I'll have to go.

Re:Time to jailbreak 3GS (1)

farnsworth (558449) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437654)

I don't begrudge Apple for being unwilling/unable to add the coolest new features to the 3GS, but if the jailbreak community can take better care of me then I guess that's where I'll have to go.

I believe the radio in the 3gs is physically not capable of behaving like an access point. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember from the time that I had one.

Re:Time to jailbreak 3GS (2)

kirkb (158552) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437672)

Re:Time to jailbreak 3GS (1)

farnsworth (558449) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437704)

I believe the radio in the 3gs is physically not capable of behaving like an access point. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember from the time that I had one.

Yup, I was wrong. There was an earlier iPhone that did not have the right radio to do this. Thanks for the link.

Re:Time to jailbreak 3GS (2)

dakameleon (1126377) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437800)

Welcome to planned obsolescence! Please take your number and join the queue for the new version in June.

(I'm in the same position, but I've experimented with jailbreak - hadn't found truly compelling reasons for keeping it, but now I'm far more inclined)

Not for Verizon. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35437538)

I've tried.

iTunes podcast & university lectures (1)

joshier (957448) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437606)

I'm downloading the update primarily in hopes that they've fixed the iTunes store where you literally can't see the full titles of podcasts or iTunes U lectures. You use the search in iTunes and it finds many results, however you can't read any of them at all until you fully download it. Nightmare.

Text message sound? (2)

crossmr (957846) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437702)

Has this been removed in 4.3 finally? It was one of their most idiotic changes in 4.2. When text message tone is set to none, that means no sound. Not "still make a sound"

Re:Text message sound? (0)

crossmr (957846) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438188)

and after the update, the answer to that is no.
Fuck you apple. Fuck you very much.

oh crap, just yesterday i upgraded to 4.2.1... (1)

herojig (1625143) | more than 3 years ago | (#35437898)

oh crap, just yesterday i upgraded to 4.2.1 on my jailbroken 3G. Does anyone know if I have to wait until the boys at Dev-Team post a new tut on iClarified before I can upgrade again? I had so much fun (sic) the last time, I can't wait to do it again. thx...

Re:oh crap, just yesterday i upgraded to 4.2.1... (1)

mr100percent (57156) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438290)

Depends. There's a jailbreak out already, although its not as simple as Dev-Team's will be. The unlock is still forthcoming

Looks like... (1)

mongoose(!no) (719125) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438022)

I'm switching back to CodeWarrior.

Not buying. Not following Apple on this one. (2, Insightful)

Qbertino (265505) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438060)

Apple did a tremendous job in the last decade in kicking some serious ass in the industry where ass-kicking was in dire need. Ever since Steve Jobs made the bold and very smart move to Unix I have allways been favourable to them. The fist iMac was the first PC ever not requiring a Monitor adjustment and setup - something most novices were not capable of. My first Mac was a later generation iBook G4 - the cheapest subnotebook available at the time. It played along perfectly with my otherwise entirely Linux driven setup. And its in regular use to this very day, chugging along on the last PPC version of Tiger. With Apache, Samba, the entire GNU Stack and yet some OSS goodies pre-installed and configured. There are a lot more positive things I could detail that they've done - like breaking the carrier grip on cellphones and the software they run or comming up with the best possible DRM compromise at the time and convincing the industry that that is the maximum possible.

The latest developments however don't get my approval at all. The iPad is the sweet looking end of a very ugly solid vertical distribution-and-access lock-in cortesy to apple. The device looks cool, no doubt, but it is factually a step backwards in technology as it effectively is not a turing complete computer anymore. I just talked to a guy at our local apple vendor about this: It apparently isn't possible to install your own software on this thing without having a 99$/year developer subscription with apple. If I have to do that, then this is in effect not a turing complete device and thus factually no computer anymore. It's a neat computer driven consumer device - but that's all.

What I'm wondering is how far Apple will be able to go with this until people notice that they are a new sort of old IBM and start switching to more open devices. If Apple continues building them neat enough, maybe never? Who knows.
I for one can say that I am not buying, unless Im paid insane or at least solid amounts of money for developing for the iPad. I might by yet another M*cBook, but as for these oh-so-neat 'Post-PC-Devices', as they are called, I'm going to test the waters with a far more open and thus truely turing complete solution. My new HTC Desire HD btw is an awesome such device. Definitely the iPhone killer. ... FYI: I'm writing this on a Mac.

Re:Not buying. Not following Apple on this one. (1)

indiechild (541156) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438224)

Then don't buy an iPad, sheesh. There will always be "pro" Macs where you can install whatever you want -- how else could you develop for iOS devices?

It's true that computing is moving towards a more user-friendly and "walled" console-like experience. Geeks think that is evil and bad, the rest of the planet rightly thinks it's a great thing.

Hot spot feature a rip off (1)

jbplou (732414) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438088)

The hot spot feature is such a rip off. I know the carriers forced it to be a system you pay extra for but why is that? With At&t they don't offer unlimited data plans any more so why am I limited on how I use my bandwidth they will charge me extra for the bandwidth why do I have to pay the carier for a software feature?

Re:Hot spot feature a rip off (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438238)

Interestingly there is a whole big world out there beyond AT&T. My carrier offers unlimited data plans.

Airplay (2)

mr100percent (57156) | more than 3 years ago | (#35438270)

The improvements to Airplay are pretty underrated. You can now stream your entire iTunes library to your iPhone/iPad/iPod touch (if they're on the same LAN). That's kinda a big improvement, because so many people on /. whine how they can't fit their entire library on only 64GB of space. Videos too.

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