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Microsoft Reportedly Ends Zune Hardware Development

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the no-need-to-throw-good-money-after-bad dept.

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ideaz tips this Bloomberg report: "Microsoft Corp. will cease introducing new versions of the Zune music and video-player amid tepid demand, helping the company shift its focus to mobile phones, according to a person familiar with the decision. The company will concentrate on putting Zune software onto mobile phones such as those running Microsoft’s Windows operating system, said the person, who declined to be identified because the decision hasn’t been announced. Zune software lets customers buy songs and movies, as well as pay a monthly fee to stream unlimited music."

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Worst Post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35484622)

It's the worstiest!

Microsoft has been changing (0, Offtopic)

Billy the Boy (2016540) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484658)

It looks like they're really making good progress. Windows 7, XBOX360, Windows Phone 7...All awesome products. It's good, since I really wouldn't want to live in a world dominated by Apple and Google.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (0, Offtopic)

lwsimon (724555) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484668)

Agreed. I'm actually happy with Win7, which is a first for a Microsoft product since Win2000.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (4, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485056)

I'm actually happy with Win7

I've never used it, so I'll see your "happy" and raise you an "ecstatic".

Re:Microsoft has been changing (1, Insightful)

The Moof (859402) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484678)

I'm curious how this will affect the 360. I haven't watched a video on mine since they removed the video marketplace and required you have Zune installed on your Xbox to do most things related to video. If they're discontinuing Zune, are they going to also roll back the Zune Marketplace requirements for the Xbox?

Re:Microsoft has been changing (0)

SpryGuy (206254) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484778)

I don't understand why you refuse to watch video on Zune on the XBox 360?

They're only discontinuing the hardware and the brand. So they'll rename Zune on the XBox to something else, but it'll be the same thing, software- and service-wise.

Zune music and video on the XBox is pretty good, actually. Especially if you get a ZunePass and use the Smart DJ feature.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Zune Marketplace Requirements"... I think you're thinking it's more than what it is. Or something. I'm not sure what you're opposed to or avoiding here, in fact.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (1)

mistiry (1845474) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484792)

Netflix?

Re:Microsoft has been changing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35485484)

You're complaining about a feature that's Netflix and Last.fm all rolled into 1, with a better UI to top it off. It never costs you a dime if you don't want it to and offers a subscription model or a pay for what you want model depending on your preference. You can still watch video game movies under your Video Game section of your regular XBox software, seriously, what's the problem? As a bonus all Zune content is available at no additional charge on your PC (as well as a Zune if you have one). With that said, their movie pricing is way out of whack. Throwing 10 DRM free mp3s at you per month makes Zune Pass a really good buy.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (1, Interesting)

balls of steel (2016538) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484696)

It looks like they're really making good progress. Windows 7, XBOX360, Windows Phone 7...All awesome products. It's good, since I really wouldn't want to live in a world dominated by Apple and Google.

I have to say I agree here. Lets see Bing for example. Live search was always worse than Google, but now they're really up to par, sometimes even better. While Google is spammed with all kinds of shitty websites, Bing is clean. Kudos to MS.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35484702)

But living in a world dominated by Microsoft somehow alleviates any and all of your concerns?

Re:Microsoft has been changing (1)

the linux geek (799780) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484782)

Wow, you suck at reading comprehension. Where exactly did he say he wanted a world dominated by Microsoft?

Re:Microsoft has been changing (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35484886)

Wow, you suck at reading comprehension. Where exactly did he say he wanted a world dominated by Microsoft?

And you suck at recent history. Domination is what Microsoft does best. Of course they will play that down now that Apple and Google prove resistant to their usual tactics. But make no mistake, Microsoft holds their cards close to their chest.

When Windows gets down to less than 50% of the desktop OS market, uses open standards wherever possible, is as compatible with other systems as possible including file formsts for things like MS Office, then we can talk as though you made a useful point.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (1, Insightful)

The End Of Days (1243248) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484958)

Awwww, you love to hate Microsoft so much that you have to live in the past now? How sad.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35485200)

Awwww, you love to hate Microsoft so much that you have to live in the past now? How sad.

Yes, of course hatred is the one and only reason to be honest about who you're dealing with. Such pure hatred couldn't possibly be tainted with lesser concerns like honesty, realism, or a comprehension of the fact that history tends to repeat itself. Nope. Those logical things would interfere with momentary emotions. I am glad you use dismissal and ridicule as your primary means of making your point, since that's clearly superior to the hatred of which you accuse me.

I hate to ruin your pity party and everything but the same personalities who perpetrated Microsoft's repeated past abuses are still running the company. Especially Ballmer. It's simply foolish to act like the last 10 years of abusive behavior didn't happen. In fact, that's precisely what enables more of the same, what makes it successful. Most of their strategic methods depend on people who never see it coming, like embrace-and-extend for example. I see you can be counted among those who facilitate this, no doubt out of some misguided belief that they have suddenly seen the light.

If there had been a significant change in management then I'd agree with you about living in the past. I'd say that the new managers deserve a fair chance to show us whether they're just like the old ones. But there are no new managers, not at the top.

What you're doing there, it's called denial. The only hatred happening here is yours for anyone who makes denial less comfortable for you. Here's the deal and it's real simple: it never occurred to me to think of Microsoft's leadership as ruthless bastards until they started repeatedly acting like ruthless bastards. That was their choice. If they really have turned over a new leaf then they should recognize that trust is an especially difficult thing to restore once it is destroyed. If you don't like these basic facts, that's tough shit for you. Being a dick won't change them, nor will it persuade anyone to see things your way. Not that persuasion seems to be your goal.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35484706)

Zune wasn't actually a bad product and had some nice features that the ipad still hasn't got right. They were just a little late to the game.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (2, Funny)

symbolset (646467) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484850)

It's early days yet for Zune. Microsoft has immense resources to bring to bear, and the patience to see it through. No, wait. That was something else.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (2)

kevinmenzel (1403457) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484890)

Not to mention that they had great on-device software development, adding any software features that were released with new models to the older devices. Had a zune ever come out with 160GB capacity (or higher), I would have got one, quite likely... except: It's a device tied to one desktop client, and so far no one has been able to crack that. And it's a desktop client that does not serve my needs for music management, including limitations to fields that are arbitrary and significantly more restrictive than the ID3v2 spec allows for.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (2)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485262)

The Zune was never better than a mixed bag. Horrible PC interface. Awful. No Mac interface. But the audio quality was very good.

I've got an old 30gb Zune that I bought refurbished on Woot! for about 60 bucks if I remember correctly, and it's been a hardy companion when I ride the bike. I bought it for my daughter but she scoffed at it's not being an Apple product so I ended up with it and was surprised and pleased by its stellar audio quality. It's hit the ground pretty often, so I've got no reason to expect it to keep working, but somehow it has. It's all scratched up and I've got reboot it once a week (par for the Microsoft course) but man it sounds great. For $60US it's been one of my more successful tech purchases. I've got an 8gig iPod touch, but the audio quality isn't nearly as good, and 30gb seems like a good size for a portable music collection. I wonder if the sound quality of the new iPod Touch 4g is better than my older model. Anybody know? I don't carry it on the bike much because I'm afraid it won't stand up the the abuse.

I figure at the rate I'm going my old Zune will probably last another few months, but now I have to search for a new portable with really high audio quality. This time, I'm going for something that can play flac and ogg. What do you guys think? Cowon? Archos? Sansa has better audio quality than the iPod, but not as good as the Zune, but it let's me install rockbox, which is great. And the Sansa's batteries only seem to last a year or less (although to be honest, I've only bought refurbs, so I don't know how good the Sansa batteries are. Also, I've had a few Sansa's for my daughter that have both just up and died after about 5 months.

I guess my ideal player would be 32gb of flash with really good sound and as sturdy as the built-like-a-tank and almost as heavy Zune. I think in 2011 I shouldn't have to carry a mechanical hard drive in my pocket just so I can have all the music I want. Oh, and I want it to cost $150 or less. I want to be able to control it, skip songs, fast forward and change volume without looking at it or taking it out of my pocket so a touchscreen is not indicated.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35485336)

Oh, get a new iPod and shut up. tl;dr and no-one else did, either.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (1)

Mulder3 (867389) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484926)

Windows Phone 7 is an awesome product? If had to choose between WP7 and Windows Mobile, i'd choose Windows Mobile...

Re:Microsoft has been changing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35485450)

Windows Phone 7 is an awesome product? If had to choose between WP7 and Windows Mobile, i'd choose Windows Mobile...

And if i had to choose between an ipad and a newton, i'd choose a newton. Seriously that's the most pointless post you could make.

Re:Microsoft has been changing (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35484930)

World dominated by Apple: the hardware costs a bit more for the computers, equal or cheaper for the devices, software is usually much cheaper than competitors but you can't do everything you want. Some features are limited or non-existant, but otherwise things run pretty smoothly, usability is first and 99.9999% of users don't need to rely on a "computer friend" to help them out.

World dominated by Google: things are usually free but spammed with advertising, you have no anonymity online and you don't control your personnal information and data, their goal is to let you access your data everywhere but in turn they must be able to access it too for advertising purposes. "Don't Be Evil" has been replaced with "Don't Screw Them Too Hard".

World dominated by Microsoft*: they are extremely prone to the "not invented here" syndrome, their software is not only really expensive but also not quite stable, their only redeeming quality is that they try to achieve backward compatibility to the point that most of the software bloat is to support users from a decade ago. Features are put ahead of security, usability is an after-thought at best, sacrificed for an overload of features that most people wouldn't even know how to use in the first place.

* we have proof since that's how it's been since the late 1980's.

They all have bad sides and good sides...

Re:Microsoft has been changing (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485324)

What MS fanboys are no longer including Zune in the list? Zune was just in the list mere days ago.

And in other news (5, Funny)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484664)

And in other news, Poison Beer Incorporated has announced the end of the production of their Cyanide Cider line of toxic methyl alcohol coolers. A company insider, speaking on condition of anonymity has revealed due to the tepid reception of the drink that causes blindness, neurological damage and in many cases death, has lead to the decision. Poison Beer Incorporated will now be concentrating on Thalidomide Cola, where it sees the future of its toxic drink product sales.

Re:And in other news (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485170)

Oh come on now! That's being a bit too harsh don't you think? Aside from iTunes, please name the 2nd best candidate. Even if the Zune platform came in 3rd, it's still not *that* bad.

Re:And in other news (2)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485234)

Is that like complaining about how the USSR was treated in the press, after all they were the second best superpower!!!!

Re:And in other news (-1, Flamebait)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485198)

So some lame joke that Microsoft products are toxic is not just "funny" but "informative", while a post stating that recent MS products (e.g. W7) have been improving is "offtopic" and a "troll".

Conclusion: Slashdot has the worst fucking moderation system on the internet. 4chan's /b/ has better mods.

Go ahead and mod me down, I'll just post something like "and nothing of value was lost" for the instant +5.

Re:And in other news (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35485362)

Go ahead and mod me down, I'll just post something like "and nothing of value was lost" for the instant +5.

And nothing of value was lost.

Re:And in other news (1, Informative)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485270)

Poison Beer Incorporated will now be concentrating on Thalidomide Cola, where it sees the future of its toxic drink product sales.

Not to take a joke seriously, but Thalidomide isn't very "toxic." That was one of it's selling points in fact. It is a potent teratogen, but those of us who are fully formed, it appears safer than most medicines.

It had been tested extensively on mice and found to be nontoxic. It was so harmless, in fact, that no lethal dose could be established.

Wired [wired.com]

Re:And in other news (1, Informative)

mattack2 (1165421) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485426)

BTW, thalidomide is successfully used for other treatments nowadays.

No, the joke isn't whooshing over me.

we'll miss it (1)

ArAgost (853804) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484672)

** crickets **

Oh yeah? (2)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484800)

Those aren't crickets! That's a WMA file of recorded cricket sounds being streamed from Microsoft directly to my Zune!

Re:Oh yeah? (1)

CaseCrash (1120869) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485156)

being streamed from Microsoft directly to my Zune!

it doesn't do that. I know, I've had both versions.

Well, that's the point of it, right? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485386)

Those aren't crickets! That's a WMA file of recorded cricket sounds being streamed from Microsoft directly to my Zune!

They actual crickets have been fed to the office toad, but the service lives on ...

Expect some delays if you ever need help, though.

Re:Oh yeah? (1)

lennier1 (264730) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485476)

Unfortunately the crickets ended quite abruptly, since Microsoft has turned off their DRM servers.

Re:Oh yeah? (4, Funny)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485496)

How can it stop playing?! I have PlaysForSure(TM)!

Re:we'll miss it (1)

acedotcom (998378) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485422)

honestly it really pisses me off. i love my zune's and have been waiting for an update. they are they best mp3 players on the market. hands down. i am not going to stay with zune just so i can use the software. so fuck zune. i hate to jump ship so quickly. but its not worth staying with for an mp3 player that will never get updated again. also...it will be a cold day in hell before i use a winmo phone.

Demands (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35484684)

Microsoft Corp. will cease introducing new versions of the Zune music and video-player amid tepid demand, helping the company shift its focus to mobile phones

Presumably in the hopes that they can eventually rise all the way up to a tepid level of demand for their phone products too.

Re:Demands (4, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485148)

Tepid? We used to dream of tepid. Our dad used to come home and drown us in liquid nitrogen, then smash us to bits like an empty bottle after we'd gone all brittle. But we were happy....

Re:Demands (4, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485366)

Tepid? We used to dream of tepid. Our dad used to come home and drown us in liquid nitrogen, then smash us to bits like an empty bottle after we'd gone all brittle. But we were happy....

Luxury! Oh, have less than tepid! When our CEO came back from a public flogging at a trade show, flogged by the sweepers, 'cuz they were the only ones to be found around in and around our gigantic booth, our CEO would force us into team building exercises while boiling in vats of molten lead. How we fantasized about a less than tepid reception. We didn't complain though...

Their key strategic mistake (2)

lwsimon (724555) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484710)

They made a key strategic error with the Zune - they didn't realize that no one wanted a "poop brown" media device. Ooops.

Re:Their key strategic mistake (1)

dunezone (899268) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484756)

Well they probably shouldn't have launched with that color in the first place. Your number one competition is a sleek white device and brown is the launch color you go with. The device itself is pretty nice though, I use mainly when I am flying because I can move my videos onto it. I also have a Fusion which allows the hookup through Microsoft sync which is a nice feature. For what I paid for it $60 its definitely the best media player I have ever owned and has lasted longer then my iPod. As for the software though, its kind of clunky and slow but Apple isn't much better in that field either.

Imagine the sales conversation (5, Funny)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484776)

"Hey, I'm looking to buy a music player, like an iPod or something."

"Oh, okay, well what features you you want?"

"Well, I don't really care about having good software, an intuitive interface, or mind if my device will stop working on random days. I just want something that's poop brown."

"Great! Well we have just the product for you..."

Re:Their key strategic mistake (5, Interesting)

bananaquackmoo (1204116) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484864)

While I realize you're joking they actually made many, many more strategic mistakes. Forcing me to use the Zune software was one. Only having that software on the PC was another. Making that software super slow and super buggy was also quite bad. Rarely updating the firmware and software was the next mistake. Poor codec support was another. Ignoring their customers was probably the worst (one example of that: doing love/hate instead of star ratings). The thing that pissed me off the most (though they later fixed it), as an early adopter, was that their software AUTOMATICALLY and without asking, upon initial install, overwrote all of my music tags, as well as corrupting a good 75% of my music. It's all really too bad, the UI on the hardware was quite good.

Re:Their key strategic mistake (0)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484972)

Well, none of them are really mistakes. That is the standard operation procedure in Microsoft. They tried to contact your CIO and convince him that based on this Gartner survey about Total Cost of Ownership and that survery and this opinion piece by the shill, Zune was the best product in the market. They tried to supply him with powerpoint slides that will allow him to easily defend the decision. And they tried to tell him confidentially, "look, between you and me, you might not be convinced. But no one got fired for buying Microsoft, on the other hand you go with some with shiny white thing, and if it blows up on your face, you need to explain that".

The thing that tripped them up was that people are not made up multiple parts, one part acting as CIO and other parts as worker bees and some other parts as CEO. So their sales force, so very well trained to sell their stuff by sabotaging the competition got nowhere with Zune.

Re:Their key strategic mistake (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35485092)

You obviously haven't used the device or are an iTunes fanboi because iTunes is just as buggy, slow, and works just as intermittently as the Zune. The UI of the device (Zune) was atrocious so I don't understand that statement. The software was very unintuitive as well, but iTunes isn't much better. When it takes me 30 minutes to figure out how to put a song on the device after consulting an operating manual and several forums then something is wrong. At least on the Zune software I can drag and drop songs/videos I want onto the device icon. That's pretty intuitive if you ask me.

Re:Their key strategic mistake (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485122)

Making that software super slow and super buggy was also quite bad.

Well, let's be honest, they were competing with iTunes on Windows...

But poor codec support hasn't hurt Apple. AAC/MP3 should be enough for everyone(Unless the Zune didn't support AAC for whatever reason).

What really hurt the Zune was that as an mp3 player, it was outclassed by the iPod and as a touch screen flash based media device(Zune HD), it was outclassed by the iPod Touch. Even if the specs were better(Tegra 1 versus an overclocked iPhone 3G), the iPod Touch has a rich base of applications. The Zune had nothing to leverage. Even worse, Windows Phone 7 can't use Zune apps and the entire ecosystem for apps are separated.

Re:Their key strategic mistake (1)

lexman098 (1983842) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485394)

To be fair, their codec support was much better than Apple's. I love me some h.264

Re:Their key strategic mistake (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485512)

I never used a Zune, but you mean to tell me that Microsoft made an MP3 player that couldn't sync with Windows Media Player? If true, that's amazingly awful.

Re:Their key strategic mistake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35484990)

The Guardian reported some time ago [guardian.co.uk] that "caramel" poop is the new rage in design.

Periodically maroon and those colors are fashionable again and again. So probably the asked which color to make the Zune to a fashion columnist. Forgetting that normal, everyday people don't shit in golden bowl, and associate those colors to other... well, more down-to-earth, so-to-speak, things.

What is with the obsession? (3, Interesting)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485356)

I'm not sure where all this fecal mania at Slashdot comes from. Every time there is a product that is brown, the fecalphiles come out of the woodwork and start claiming that the product looks like poop. It seems to be an obsession around here. Ubuntu did not look like poop. It was brown. It was earth tones. The Zune did not look like poop any more than an iPod looked like a hand full of semen. In other words. Not at all. Unpleasant things come in pretty much every color. Associating every brown product with poop speaks more to the person making the association than it does to the product.

Worse than that (1)

jamrock (863246) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485342)

They made a key strategic error with the Zune - they didn't realize that no one wanted a "poop brown" media device.

Even more unsavory, it's a poop brown device that "squirts". It would probably have sold better if they had bundled each device with with a packet of wet wipes and a bottle of Purell.

Re:Their key strategic mistake (1)

Tetsujin (103070) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485446)

They made a key strategic error with the Zune - they didn't realize that no one wanted a "poop brown" media device. Ooops.

Well, what happened was they had to make some last-minute cutbacks to the project and so they weren't able to print on the "wood grain" pattern that would have given it the desired late-1970s charm.

Oh noes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35484714)

Damn, I was just about to get a Zune, whatever that is.

Bummer (1)

chispito (1870390) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484720)

I always preferred Zunes to iPods, even back in the 30GB days. I'm not really interested in getting a smartphone either. Guess I'm not most people.

Re:Bummer (0)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484946)

Guess I'm not most people.

And I bet it says so right on the list of contraindications of the koolaid your swallowing.

Re:Bummer (1)

chispito (1870390) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485334)

And I bet it says so right on the list of contraindications of the koolaid your [sic] swallowing.

Why the smug reply? I just meant that I don't want a smartphone and fear that full-featured, dedicated MP3 players are on the decline. The demand for such devices must be dwindling, since there isn't much serious competition to iPods anymore, at least not to their hard-disk based models.

What a joke. (0, Troll)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484728)

Microsoft is a joke. I can't believe they are a successful business, let alone the premiere provider of operating systems and office software. They have no vision for the future, and no drive to make great products. They don't even seem to be interested in making cheap products. They failed when they tried to follow Apple into the MP3 player market, and now they are planning on following Apple into the mobile phone market?! By the time they have a workable solution (if they are ever able to develop one) the market will be saturated with competing devices from manufacturers who actually care about the quality of the products they are making. They should shutter their business and release all their developers to go work on real projects that have a hope of succeeding. The only division worth keeping is the gaming division.

Re:What a joke. (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35484754)

Parent post is a joke. At least I hope so.

Re:What a joke. (1, Informative)

NiceGeek (126629) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484844)

Why? Seems to be pretty much spot on. MS has been playing catchup for years. Only their obscene warchest (and Office lock-in) has kept them going.

Re:What a joke. (1, Informative)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484942)

Don't be silly, bashing Microsoft is the only proven way to get modded up on Slashdot. Doesn't even matter if what you say is true or not.

Re:What a joke. (4, Informative)

Tetsujin (103070) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485500)

Don't be silly, bashing Microsoft is the only proven way to get modded up on Slashdot. Doesn't even matter if what you say is true or not.

It's really true. I mean, I thought making outrageously disrespectful statements about your mom and her promiscuity would be an easy way to get modded up "funny" - but for some reason people seem to think those statements are true...

Re:What a joke. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35484912)

"They should shutter their business and release all their developers to go work on real projects that have a hope of succeeding."

While their developers are probably first rate, they have been trained by the M$ management to produce sub-stellar products. If M$ goes away, all of those managers would infect other companies. Can the world really afford that?

Re:What a joke. (1)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485254)

"They should shutter their business and release all their developers to go work on real projects that have a hope of succeeding."

While their developers are probably first rate, they have been trained by the M$ management to produce sub-stellar products. If M$ goes away, all of those managers would infect other companies. Can the world really afford that?

True. That's just what happened when Compaq went down.

Time machine sends back Slashdot story from 2020 (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35485002)

"Microsoft announces today that it will be suspending production on it's WinPhone. We want to focus our attention on the next big thing just as soon as Apples let's us know what that is."

Re:Time machine sends back Slashdot story from 202 (1)

sapgau (413511) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485242)

+1

Re:What a joke. (2)

Rising Ape (1620461) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485046)

They failed when they tried to follow Apple into the MP3 player market, and now they are planning on following Apple into the mobile phone market?!

Apple were not the first into either of those markets, so I don't know why you'd say "follow Apple".

Re:What a joke. (1)

Abrisene (1477289) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485298)

If I've been lost in the desert for three days, I can still decide to follow the newcomer that just came along and looks like he knows where he's going.

Re:What a joke. (1)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485320)

Who would you say they're following?

Re:What a joke. (4, Insightful)

farnsworth (558449) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485328)

Apple were not the first into either of those markets, so I don't know why you'd say "follow Apple".

You are following whoever is in front of you, regardless of whether that person is at the front of the line. Apple went, then Microsoft went. So Microsoft followed Apple.

Re:What a joke. (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485354)

Apple were not the first into either of those markets, so I don't know why you'd say "follow Apple".

You don't? It's because they're doing it so successfully. Kind of like how kids wanted to be like Michael Jordan instead of being like whoever the first guy to play basketball was (meanwhile we future slashdotters were taking apart computers).

Copy success (1)

SpaghettiPattern (609814) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484780)

Copying successful competitor isn't something to be ashamed of.

Unless you fail that is... Twice potentially...

So Nokia phones will now be the new Zune platform (1)

RichMan (8097) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484806)

It all begins to make sense now. Nokia does windows phones and they get their multimedia content from the Zune store.

Ahhhh.

I like Zune better than iTunes (4, Interesting)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484810)

At least the UI. It's cleaner and faster, even if you compare it to iTunes on a Mac. They had some nasty music deleting bugs earlier on though, which is great fun when you paid for the tracks instead of having them on CD.

Zunes are durable too, at least 1st Gen. My ugly brown Zune is still going strong, and it was $100 at a time when a 30 gig iPod was $400 :D.

Re:I like Zune better than iTunes (2)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484908)

That's like saying "I like having my eyeballs gouged out with toothpicks better than having my balls gnawed off my wildebeests"

Both iTunes and Zune are HORRIBLE pieces of software.

Re:I like Zune better than iTunes (0)

SpryGuy (206254) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485000)

I respectfully disagree.

Zune 4.x is a great piece of software. Beautiful UI (blows anything Apple has done out of the water), functional, effective, and easy to use. So much better than iTunes that it's laughable.

The UI on the device itself is also superior.

Of course they had a very rocky start, and it didn't get decent until version 3.x ... typical of all Microsoft products actually (first version is a disaster, second version is better but still painful, third versino actually works).

Re:I like Zune better than iTunes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35485232)

Zune 4.x is a great piece of software. Beautiful UI (blows anything Apple has done out of the water), functional, effective, and easy to use.

Well, THAT explains the cancellation. Can't have decent software running around making the rest of the company look bad, can we? ;)

Re:I like Zune better than iTunes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35485502)

can you stream some wildebeest ball licking porn to my zune?

Nokia ZunePhone? (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484816)

The company will concentrate on putting Zune software onto mobile phones such as those running Microsoft’s Windows operating system

So something makes me think that this will be bundled with Nokia's future Windows Phone 7 devices. They will try to be like Apple with iPhone/iTunes.

Good luck with that.

Re:Nokia ZunePhone? (1)

SpryGuy (206254) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485026)

The Zune experience is already in every WP7 phone sold. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.

The what now? (1)

GrahamCox (741991) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484828)

Zune, Zune, Zune.... errrrmmm... oh, that thing!

Re:The what now? (1)

Tetsujin (103070) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485534)

Zune, Zune, Zune.... errrrmmm... oh, that thing!

Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes I have trouble remembering all this Microsoft crap, and then suddenly - bing! - it comes to me.

2 Questions... (0)

Charliemopps (1157495) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484854)

What's a Zune? Microsofts spell check doesn't even recognize it.
and
When did Microsoft get into smartphones?

Re:2 Questions... (1)

Goaway (82658) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484968)

Yeah, some days, I kind of wish I'd slept through the last five or so years, too.

I have seen this before... (1)

Stregano (1285764) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484866)

This is exactly what happened to the N-Gage and N-Gage QD. It was getting outsold by so many other phones, so N-Gage 2 was just software for phones. Weird enough, Microsoft is shifting to go software only for phones media devices, like what Nokia did with the N-Gage, and Nokia is supposed to be doing a bunch of W7M phones.

It's all in the name. (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484894)

They should have called it Happy Fun Ball, then nobody would taunt them.

Cue Steve Jobs yelling... (1)

Un pobre guey (593801) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484910)

"...I Am Sparta!" at the top of his lungs.

Re:Cue Steve Jobs yelling... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485016)

"...I Am Sparta!" at the top of his lungs.

More like "iSparticus!"

Really? (1, Funny)

RevWaldo (1186281) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484976)

So zune?

.

No iPod Touch competition? (1)

jj00 (599158) | more than 3 years ago | (#35484982)

Who knows if this rumor is true, but it sure does sound plausible considering we haven't heard a thing from them. I don't have a Zune, but I always hoped that someday they would get around to making a real competitor to the iPod Touch. I can understand cell phone manufacturers not being interested because the profit margin is so much higher for cell phones, but I'd think a company like Microsoft would be a big enough company to subsidize such a project.

Re:No iPod Touch competition? (1)

CaseCrash (1120869) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485216)

The HD Zune is a touch screen device. I love mine. (But then again Apple products frustrate me)

Yet another Quality Microsoft Colossal Failure (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485008)

Hey, I have an idea, why don't they focus on their core products and stop messing around with things they're no good at - everything where they don't hold a near monopoly.

Windows Phone Next (1)

jbplou (732414) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485048)

If theyr're smart Windows Phone 7 will be next. Plus they are foolishly trying to bring laptop style Windows to tablets while Apple is selling millions using iOS.

Kiler feature: (1)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485084)

"Squirt".

Just what kind of demographic did they think they were targeting with such choice of vocabulary?

Re:Kiler feature: (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485344)

Bukkake fans?

Re:Kiler feature: (1)

GrumblyStuff (870046) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485384)

Slightly taller and balder George Costanza impersonators?

Re:Kiler feature: (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485488)

Maybe the same people that were buying semen colored MP3 players? OK, your right. Squirt is a stupid name. I think they were just trying to be hip like Google or Twitter.

new slant on the age old adage? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35485210)

embrace break your own trend, follow someone else's,

extend, come out some time later with a version 2

extinguish, decide even later after it's not working and go back to what you know and love.

Missing tag: (1)

Psicopatico (1005433) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485256)

nomoresquirt

"...as well as pay a monthly fee..." (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 3 years ago | (#35485378)

I like how it "lets customers [...] pay a monthly fee to stream music" instead of "lets customers [...] stream music, for a monthly fee". Yeah, MS, I want to pay a monthly fee! You're brilliant guys!
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