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New Film 'Zenith' Now Available For Free BitTorrent Download

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the for-people-with-better-connections-than-mine dept.

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airfoobar writes "This seems like a good week for libre culture. The first part of an surprisingly well-made cyberpunk thriller called Zenith has just been released as a torrent download through Vodo, and the third episode of Pioneer One is being released on the 28th."

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lol (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546348)

whoof want to know?

Re:lol (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546588)

yhooz a nigger, you is.

Preview (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546378)

Re:Preview (5, Informative)

gedankenhoren (2001086) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546526)

Nice equipment and editing, quite poor dialogue/acting, though:

[pained, confused]: "Why did you take me here?"

[rapidly and without emotion, as a fast-paced intonation]: "I didn't mean to hurt you, I'm sorry"

[teenage angst]: "Can you at least look at me like you really mean it?"

[customer support]: "I'm sorry."

Re:Preview (1)

tobiah (308208) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546618)

I think the acting is spot on for what they are trying to portray; people who only know artificial emotions (genetically manipulated or drug-induced). Looks very professional to me. Pacing is a bit slow, but I'll give it a shot.

Re:Preview (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547048)

I think the acting is spot on for what they are trying to portray; people who only know artificial emotions (genetically manipulated or drug-induced).

Absolutely agreed. For those who just watched the YouTube link: it cuts in about a third of the way through without context, and having watched the whole thing the acting actually seems pretty damn good, so I'd recommend giving it a chance from the start.

Re:Preview (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35547158)

I think the acting is spot on for what they are trying to portray; people who only know artificial emotions (genetically manipulated or drug-induced).

Absolutely agreed. For those who just watched the YouTube link: it cuts in about a third of the way through without context, and having watched the whole thing the acting actually seems pretty damn good, so I'd recommend giving it a chance from the start.

Please print that on paper so I have something to wipe my ass with.

Fuck you nigger, no one gives a damn what you think.

What's it say on the inside of a nigger's lips? INFLATE TO 20 PSI.

niggers

Re:Preview (0)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547314)

Perhaps I'm being obtuse here but this post seems like something of a non sequitur.

Re:Preview (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35547420)

Perhaps I'm being obtuse here but this post seems like something of a non sequitur.

yes it's a non sequitur. yes you're being obtuse.

very obtuse.

nigger

Re:Preview (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35547490)

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/troller.htm

Re:Preview (1)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547538)

Kids, I hope you can see now why it might not be such a great idea to cut your Ritalin with crack cocaine...

Re:Preview (1)

Professr3 (670356) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547942)

I think he's just mad because "Dumb Jack" is infringing on the trademark this guy took out on his own name.

Re:Preview (4, Insightful)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546642)

The equipment is the easy part. The prices for facilities and equipment have been very quickly approaching the marginal cost -- if you can get skilled people to donate time you're in.

Competent writing, acting, directing and producing are much trickier.

Re:Preview (2)

gedankenhoren (2001086) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546880)

This is true. But it doesn't cost a fortune to make a good film; see Fassbinder's Marta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_(1974_film), or really any of his - they were made on a budget, but the acting was phenomenal). In today's dollars (according to some perhaps shaky assumptions re the equivalence of DM and USD inflation rates between 1974-2009, and these sites: http://www.westegg.com/inflation/infl.cgi [westegg.com] and http://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/exchangeglobal/result.php [measuringworth.com] ), Marta cost ~$833076 2009 USD. I can't find any information about Zenith's cost, but even ~$900,000 USD is not out of reach for an ambitious (and talented) (outsider) director.

Re:Preview (1)

gedankenhoren (2001086) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546950)

An even better example is Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071141/), which has arguably better (=more dynamic) acting than my previous Fassbinder example, Marta, and which cost only $267,694 2009 USD, though that may be due to the fact that:

[t]he prices for facilities and equipment have been very quickly approaching the marginal cost

I'm interested to see some data re the breakdown between fac./equip. costs and actors/writers/directors/producers/fluffers costs...

Re:Preview (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547428)

A lot of it depends upon the creativity of the crew in terms of costume and set design. Corman was a master when it came to making sets look really expensive while spending practically nothing on it. And take a look at what Mel Bibby was able to do towards the end of the Red Dwarf series. There was basically no increase in set allowance, but each season the sets looked better and better, and it wasn't just a matter of less to do.

Re:Preview (1)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547150)

You are out of touch with Reality. It says in the site they are looking to collect 10k.

Let me remind you, El Mariachi was made with 7k.

Re:Preview (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547650)

Let me remind you, El Mariachi was made with 7k.

El Mariachi was shot for $7k, but after Sony picked up the negative they spent half a million on sound work, editing, opticals, prints and advertising.

Re:Preview (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35547602)

A million may be pocket change for you, but for most people it isn't. Primer was made with $7k, and is damn good.

Re:Preview (4, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546646)

Nice equipment and editing, quite poor dialogue/acting, though:

That formula worked pretty well for George Lucas.

Re:Preview (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546892)

every day i see stupid people everywhere... and i wonder... isn't abortion legal? shouldn't they have all been aborted fetuses with a bunch of holes poked into their still-twitching heads by a sharp probe until they die and get flushed out the uterus like so much garbage? imagine the money we'd save on social services and how much easier it would be to drive places without some dumbass doing some stupid shit that endangers himself (which is ok) and you (which isn't). too many dumbasses leads to too big a government leads to too miserable a society for the small percentage of intelligent people who actually invent new things and contribute useful ideas and carry the weight of a whole mass of morons on their backs. fuck this shit.

Re:Preview (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35547102)

To be fair, that reply should be conditioned on whether parent is referring to the original episodes or to the jar jar episodes.

Re:Preview (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547250)

What do you expect from a copypasta troll?

Re:Preview (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546942)

I thought that was deliberate - especially the lack of sincerity when she looks at him; as another poster pointed out, it would fit well within the society they're trying to portray. There's also the fact that the male lead's acting is good, so I'd be surprised if they got a female lead that poor.

Re:Preview (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35548666)

Watch the whole thing and you might get why the dialogue is that way. The film is set in a dystopian future where people are unable to feel anything and incapable of communicating using anything other than polite niceties. These two are slowly awakening from that state.

Re:Preview (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546776)

the better link is this:
vodo.net/zenith

since the film isn't licensed for showing on commercial sites like youtube

Re:Preview (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546944)

Re:Preview (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35547124)

Well, that's certainly a different take!

don't use the youtube link, use the torrent (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35547288)

the youtube link cynically removes the way you support the film

use
http://vodo.net/zenith

c'mon they're already torrenting it, do you - youtube link maker - really have to stripe the way you support the film?

Re:don't use the youtube link, use the torrent (1)

Macrat (638047) | more than 3 years ago | (#35550872)

the youtube link cynically removes the way you support the film

Most ISP's throttle P2P connections now.

Watch it now on YouTube or wait for an overnight torrent download?

Re:don't use the youtube link, use the torrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35551982)

Uuum, how often is it that you see something interesting, and at that moment have over an hour of free time and nothing better to do? For me (and most people) that's very rare. (Hence the TiVo.) I, for example have about 396GB of never seen guaranteed-great films, games, music, books and software on my hard disk.
Let alone doing some work, meeting some girls or doing some sports (with or without girls ;).

Also, modern clients have no trouble using encrypted connections on any port you like. There's no chance they can throttle that, unless they throttle everything. In which case you don't get what's in your contract, and you'll sue them for fraud.

But here in Germany, and with my p2p home server, there's nothing more comfortable than to just "fire and forget", and when I have time and am interested, I can watch in in HD on my projector, with 5.1 sound and outstanding quality. And don't have to re-download it, when I want to keep it in my archive (if it is any good).

Not saying that has to be be your way, but it's great, and so I can only recommend it. :)

Re:don't use the youtube link, use the torrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35553994)

I got it at 3.2 MB/s, not much throttling here.
You might want to look for a good ISP...

Re:Preview (1)

whatever3003 (536979) | more than 3 years ago | (#35548936)

Thanks for that link - I was quite impressed (and that's a bit hard to do these days). On the strength of that I donated and and am downloading it in it's entirety.

I hope they make their 40K goal.

Re:Preview (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#35551846)

I'll give a $25 donation if it's good...even if it does require me to use Paypal as a credit card processor, buncha crooks.

$50, maaaybe if it's a really awesome movie...but not over that so I hope some $25 slots are open when I'm done watching.

USED TO HAVE ZENITIH 100 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546480)

Had 8085 and 8086, both made by Apple, of course.

Ran Apple CP/M and Apple DOS. All in all, good for a 100 model. Secure, too !!

Finally... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546534)

Someone is bold enough to think outside the entertainment business model box. Kudos I hope it goes well.

Re:Finally... (1)

lennier1 (264730) | more than 3 years ago | (#35548096)

Not exactly new. Vodo has been around for a long time and several productions have released their movies and episodes their, financing the projects through donations instead of up-front money.

Streaming (1)

drb226 (1938360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546578)

We need to start pushing harder for torrent video streaming. Now would be a good time to, say, put these up on bitlet [bitlet.org] .

Re:Streaming (1)

drb226 (1938360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546730)

Well I tried, but it doesn't show the video for me. Work for anyone else? Stream Zenith Part 1 on bitlet [bitlet.org]

Re:Streaming (1)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 3 years ago | (#35548978)

Same. I got audio but no video (Windows 7, Java 6, x86_64)

Love that this is taking off... (3, Informative)

SomePgmr (2021234) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546586)

This film, Pioneer One and The Tunnel [thetunnelmovie.net] are all doing this, and it makes it seem like this is a potentially workable model. I hope the "buy a frame" and selling of merchandise make it financially viable... I'd love to see this become the norm. I was more than happy to buy a few frames for The Tunnel... as the money goes straight to the movie makers, and it still cost me less than a single traditional rental.

Re:Love that this is taking off... (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546718)

I hope the "buy a frame" and selling of merchandise make it financially viable...

The problem with "buy a frame" and merch is that the movie doesn't actually have to be good -- it just has to have a script that reads well or a concept that markets merchandise well (viz. Snakes on a Plane). Once the filmmakers have the money they aren't under very much pressure to make a film that's successful, they're already in the black. This is a lot like what happened in the middle of the decade with foreign pre-sales of low-budget ($1-$10 million) films: a foreign distributor would agree to distribute a film and pay a fee, sight unseen, as long as the film had a particular lead American actor in it and the concept was easily marketed (an action film, or a crime drama). Once the producer had all the cash from the foreign distros their upside was covered and they were in the black, and all they had to do is the bare minimum to make the film watchable. This is how Battlefield: Earth was produced, among many other lesser films of the last 10 years.

Re:Love that this is taking off... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546822)

But if you want to sell more merchandise, you will be motivated to use your frame money much more effectively... heck, you may even throw in some of your own money. ;)

Re:Love that this is taking off... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546860)

What you are saying would be true if they only plan to create one film in their entire career. If their name comes to be associated with mediocrity, the next time they ask people to invest in their productions, their reputation will precede them!

Re:Love that this is taking off... (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547008)

What you are saying would be true if they only plan to create one film in their entire career.

Nobody plans to make a bad movie -- the real issue is that with such a funding model nobody would ever produce a good movie, or the movies that come out that are good are only good out of dumb luck. You're assuming that skill follows the man; I'm saying it's much sticker to the money.

The fact that Uwe Boll made bad movies didn't seem to keep foreign copro money away from him, over and over and over. Instead of smart money finding the good filmmakers, the alternate equilibrium is much more likely: producers will simply find the dumbest money.

Re:Love that this is taking off... (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547444)

And yet, even he was able to make a good film. Postal, was actually pretty good as far as films go, if only for the portion that he dedicates to mocking himself on camera. If he stopped taking his films so seriously and chose ones which were better suited for dark comedy, I think we'd have a different opinion of his talent.

Re:Love that this is taking off... (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547690)

Postal, was actually pretty good as far as films go, if only for the portion that he dedicates to mocking himself on camera.

Strangely enough, even if we accept arguendo that Postal was a good film, which is quite a stretch, it's done nothing to enhance his career, which would seem to prove my point.

Re:Love that this is taking off... (1)

MusedFable (1640361) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547888)

The same problem applies when you decide to buy a movie ticket or dvd. You don't know how good the movie is but you've already paid.

Re:Love that this is taking off... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35554062)

Lesser than Battlefield Earth ?
Please share ! I'd like to know which movies are beating that one, so bad I bought the DVD and love to watch it again and again from time to time !

Re:Love that this is taking off... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35550152)

Wait, why did you buy "frames" of this movie that hasn't even been released yet. A sucker and his money...

'all the armies of the world gather', cradle.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546654)

it's in the 'chosen ones' manual (aka; the book of altered/stingy 'math'/divine intervention etc...). difficult to spot elsewhere. sure as hell is happening.

so the story of sadham & gonorrheal is fiction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546800)

only if it cannot be applied to the present. does anyone remember that story? pillars, shaking, washed away. nothing new? anyone for 'pillars of fire'? stay tuned. we 'must' focus on the horrific images (instead of?)?

as we can see, any notion of disarmament by anyone ever is not ever going to be an option/focus/image by anyone? as it should be, (from the book of death)? fortunately for us, babys rule.

6856 seeds 2993 peers (2)

colenski (552404) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546660)

Down speed 3 megabit. ETA 1 hr for 720p. This model works. You just need enough people streaming legal content.

Re:6856 seeds 2993 peers (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546716)

Holy shit! Now I'm getting 8.5 megabit down! Nice!

Re:6856 seeds 2993 peers (3, Funny)

crossmr (957846) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546920)

This model works.

Downloads: 146939
Donations so far: $246

Sure does.

Re:6856 seeds 2993 peers (5, Insightful)

Anthony Mouse (1927662) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547318)

Downloads: 146939
Donations so far: $246

If you're expecting the number of dollars per person to be the same as it is for traditional distribution models, you're doing it wrong. It's econ 101 that when you set the price at zero, you get maximal demand, i.e. many downloads. This is especially true here because you get not only all the pirates who download without paying and claim it's because they wouldn't have paid anyway, but also all of the non-pirates who actually wouldn't have paid but decide that a legit free download is worth the look. All that really matters is how the total profit stacks up against what it would be under a traditional distribution model.

Also: It was just released, no? Certainly it was just posted to Slashdot. Consider that some people may have downloaded it but haven't gotten around to watching and/or donating yet. We'll see how the numbers look in a day or two when that shakes out.

Re:6856 seeds 2993 peers (1)

Professr3 (670356) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547962)

I'm waiting for the other two parts before I decide to donate. I probably will, though - it's one of the best "libre" films I've seen so far, though perhaps I'm a bit biased towards dystopian cyberpunk :D

Re:6856 seeds 2993 peers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35548614)

A good idea might be to somehow get part 1 out there and, based on donations, see if making parts 2 and 3 is going to break even...

Re:6856 seeds 2993 peers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35548672)

I'm waiting for the other two parts before I decide to donate. I probably will, though - it's one of the best "libre" films I've seen so far, though perhaps I'm a bit biased towards dystopian cyberpunk :D

I think donations are going to be used to make the other two parts. Therefore, if you liked what you saw, donate now, don't be a cheap bastards.

Re:6856 seeds 2993 peers (1)

Valcrus (1242564) | more than 3 years ago | (#35549078)

I'm waiting to see how it is. If its good I will donate but if I dislike it will find something else to donate to.

But is it really good? (3, Interesting)

Troll-Under-D'Bridge (1782952) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546700)

surprisingly well-made

Sounds like a synonym for mediocre but hey it's free. I have yet to watch TFE (the fine episode) because my torrent download rate is surprisingly slow. But reading through the comments at the VODO download page, assuming they aren't anonymous astroturfers, I get the feeling that it's actually good enough for broadcast TV. They'd probably be right if by such quality you mean either Paranormal Activity or the Blair Witch Project, a threshold you can easily reach with a well-written script, a good director and a dedicated cast.

Sadly the better free beer movies I've watched appear to be fan-made movies (or movies produced without explicit permission from materials copyrighted by other people), e.g. The Hunt for Gollum [thehuntforgollum.com] .

Re:But is it really good? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35546830)

Well the first episode of Pioneer One was completely and utterly terrible. There are better shows on youtube made with much smaller budgets.

Re:But is it really good? (0)

crossmr (957846) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546940)

If they could act, write, direct, produce, etc at the level of hollywood, or other professional media producers (including independents that make it big), they'd be there and wouldn't be making this stuff for free.

inevitable bashing of hollywood media quality in 3....2...1....

Re:But is it really good? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35547282)

When did I compare it to hollywood?

I compared it to stuff on youtube made by teenagers with daddy's camera.

Sadly it does not compare favorably.

Re:But is it really good? (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547330)

You didn't, I was just saying if it was of truly great quality, it wouldn't be given away for free and donation begging.

Re:But is it really good? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35549290)

You didn't, I was just saying if it was of truly great quality, it wouldn't be given away for free and donation begging.

Have you actually watched it?

Re:But is it really good? (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547468)

Not necessarily, perhaps for the crew that might be true, but there's a surprising amount of talent out there that hasn't for one reason or another been spotted. The reality is that only a very small fraction of actors, directors or writers ever get a shot in hollywood, and as a result, there's plenty of decent and even brilliant ones available for this sort of project.

Unless you're connected, the chances of ever being seen is pretty small, you might luck out with an open casting call, but even there you're talking about only a fraction of a percent that succeed that way. And if you happen to have a bad day, you're screwed.

Fav comment (2)

Nyder (754090) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546732)

Posted by madhouserevival 2011-03-19 05:06:22 Kudos UpDown
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Very smart, high quality production. Where did they find these unknown actors? They are as good as any on TV. As for the story, it's high brow and inventive. Had never heard of Vodo. Now I'm keeping my eyes on it as well as on Cinema Purgatorio.

Where did they find these unknown actors? Hmm, 7 Billion peeps on the earth. a low budget film, not filmed by any big studios.

ya, i wonder where they found unknown actors. I doubt it was from the various acting schools, colleges, drama schools that litter the earth.

After all, there is like only 300 different actors/actresses in this world and anyone else that does something is non union or something, i'm sure.

Re:Fav comment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35550594)

ya, i wonder where they found unknown actors. I doubt it was from the various acting schools, colleges, drama schools that litter the earth.

There are tons of actors. There are probably less than 300 alive at any one time that are good. Hell, we don't have that many good ones among the famous actors, and I don't even mean hollywood, I'm including theater.

Only 30 minutes (1)

Memroid (898199) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546788)

Although I turned it off after 13.

Pioneer One ep1 was worth watching. (4, Insightful)

radarsat1 (786772) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546974)

Downloading.. haven't watched the second yet (didn't know it was out) but the first episode was actually pretty intriguing. It pretty much had no effects, no stunt shots, just actors doing a good job of making us believe that something curious was happening.

It's nice to see homegrown sci-fi being done, since I have no doubt they'll manage to at least equal or even best what we've been seeing out of the networks lately, minus their over-reliance on special effects to "wow" their audience. Good stories can be told without a big budget. Considering the absolutely terrible job that television has been doing lately at making science fiction, it really reinforces the notion that good stories require good writing, above and beyond anything else that goes into a show; although editing, direction, production, etc., are all important, good writing and good acting are more important, and it happens that if you find some good talent, these can be had at low cost if you're careful about how you run things. Often the best art is made under difficult budget constraints.

Re:Pioneer One ep1 was worth watching. (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35549434)

Interesting, I haven't even watched the first one, I wanted to see if more would come out before I potentially got hooked (I did download it.) I can't see where to download the second one though, it looks like I have to use some streaming service that probably won't work on my crappy connection? So I guess I won't bother to watch the first one.

Re:Pioneer One ep1 was worth watching. (1)

Terrasque (796014) | more than 3 years ago | (#35550356)

Just click on "Download Torrent" in the upper right corner, and a dropdown will appear that holds all the releases in various formats.

And if that's too complex, here are the direct links for 720p:

http://vodo.net/assets/torrents/Pioneer.One.S01E01.REDUX.720p.x264-VODO.torrent [vodo.net]
http://vodo.net/assets/torrents/Pioneer.One.S01E02.720p.x264-VODO.torrent [vodo.net]

Re:Pioneer One ep1 was worth watching. (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35551796)

Just click on "Download Torrent" in the upper right corner, and a dropdown will appear that holds all the releases in various formats.

Oh, I see what they did there. I have scripts turned off and they sent the href straight to download the first episode instead of a sub-page with multiple links. Thank you for the direct link, which I will use.

Re:Pioneer One ep1 was worth watching. (1)

Maestro485 (1166937) | more than 3 years ago | (#35554308)

Considering the absolutely terrible job that television has been doing lately at making science fiction...

You must have missed SyFy's Sharktopus [imdb.com] .

Good first Episode. (1)

s0litaire (1205168) | more than 3 years ago | (#35546998)

But has the same flaw as most of the shows like this, it's a bit slow, But at least they didn't fall back on badly done effect shots.
Acting is good from the main cast. The others is a bit off (can't put my finger on it).

Will watch the next episode (if they ever make it...)

Re:Good first Episode. (1)

Professr3 (670356) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547970)

The pace is on par with A Clockwork Orange. I'm beginning to think it's just an inevitable part of the genre.

Re:Good first Episode. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35548720)

it's a bit slow

Good part about this is now it can't be cancelled by shitty channels that thing the ratings systems work.

Unless there is action action action all day every day 24/7, the lemmings of the TV age won't watch it.
I hate what has happened to TV these days, so terrible.
All the great Sci-Fi has been cancelled over the years, intelligent shows, awesome horror and so on.
Very few make it, it is literally luck that gets you anywhere if you are in that kind of genre.

I can't wait for the TV-over-Internet age to finally mature.
These are the baby steps. (not sure why i was tempted to put "of the Starship Voyager" after that)
Things like Kickstarter are a great start, needs to be a little better and more known though. I've seen projects hit quadruple, sometimes quintuple numbers on there.
The way i see it, Red Dwarf was filmed with leftover money from a very small budget.
If people can get by on that, they can certainly get by with donations over the internet, a global audience.

Is anyone else geeking out... (2)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547044)

at how the more slashdotters hit this the faster the downloads go for everyone, rather than the usual? No??...I may need a life...

Re:Is anyone else geeking out... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35547358)

yeah its the complete reverse of the slashdot effect

Re:Is anyone else geeking out... (1)

tobiah (308208) | more than 3 years ago | (#35548158)

Well, now I am. It's a good point really, with the great expense and effort large internet corporations are going through to build server farms capable of handling the load of their customers, that business model may be rendered obsolete by a smart small corporation which takes advantage of the bittorrent effect and delivers the same service for a fraction of the cost (to themselves). Something which could even be done with streams, which apparently the VODO firefox plugin does.

"an surprisingly", aren't there editors? (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547180)

Oh wait, silly me, I forgot where I was.

Zenith and Pioneer (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547338)

So will the next series will be called Magnavox, RCA, or Sony?

Re:Zenith and Pioneer (1)

turing_m (1030530) | more than 3 years ago | (#35550222)

Judging by the number of slashdot comments compared to the average, the 5.6 rating on imdb at release (I swear most eventual 5.6 movies start out at 7.5), and the fact that it's a sequel, "Nadir" might be more accurate.

That word you're using... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35547590)

...I don't think it means what you think it means. Seriously, did people just agree on a new definition of cyberpunk and I just missed the memo? William Gibson's Neuromancer is cyberpunk. The Matrix and Ghost in the Shell are cyberpunk. This, on the other hand, is not.

Re:That word you're using... (1)

Professr3 (670356) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547988)

That's the beauty of crowd-sourced labels like "Cyberpunk" - they mean whatever *we say* they mean :) Yeah, the lead character's last name isn't Protagonist, he doesn't know kung-fu, and his consciousness is firmly rooted in his own entirely-flesh-and-blood body, but it has the same feel somehow. I like it.

Re:That word you're using... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35551542)

Uh, Gibson and GitS don't use trick names, and Gibson's work place a low emphasis on martial arts. So two of the three criteria you're dismissing are straw men.

As for the last one, if it ain't cyber, how the bloody hell do you think you can call it cyberpunk?

Pioneer improved? (1)

Snaller (147050) | more than 3 years ago | (#35547820)

Saw the first one - terrible...

Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35548106)

Can't wait for the third episode. It is getting really exciting. http://www.iampleasant.com

OKC Musuem of Art (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35548298)

Actually saw the film in person during a one-show run at the OKC Museum of Art. It was an interesting film. I'll probably go ahead and grab it this to show my friends who couldn't make it...

this is a good(!) movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35548504)

i didn't forget to pause it when i went to the bathroom...

i did care(!) to pause it...

that makes it a good movie in comparsion to commercial ones...

as reference: i forgot to press pause during "Tron2"... i did watch "True Grit" twice...

What license bitches??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35548522)

Would it kill you to provide actually useful information once in a while in the summaries?

Re:What license bitches??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35551632)

There is a theory which states that if ever timothy provide actually useful information in a summary, he will instantly die and be replaced by something even more useless.

There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

Why not Usenet? (1)

JackieBrown (987087) | more than 3 years ago | (#35549278)

Why not post it on a Usenet server? I always wonder the same about Linux distros as well.

Is it because it is harder to track the number of downloads?

Re:Why not Usenet? (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 3 years ago | (#35549328)

Many (Most??) ISPs don't even have UseNet servers anymore. If you want usenet, you often have to pay extra. Plus all the problems with having to download 80 files and having to put them all together, what happens when one goes missing... (yes I'm aware of PAR). It would just be much more effective to post it on MegaUploads, or Rapidshare.

Re:Why not Usenet? (1)

JackieBrown (987087) | more than 3 years ago | (#35551872)

I get a faster speed using usnet and it is not throttled like bittorrent is.

I guess I just wish there were more legit files to download using usenet (not counting just text post.)

Re:Why not Usenet? (1)

IrquiM (471313) | more than 3 years ago | (#35550362)

Because this is better

Very good - can't wait for the next part (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35551044)

I was very impressed with the production values of this show and the story is spot on as well, definitely recommended for anyone who like underground sci-fi and conspiracy theories! Donated $25 which is more than I usually spend on media but this is something I want to encourage plus it is pretty cool to get your name in the credits.

Have seen Pioneer One before and like that as well, although I'd prefer if the episodes would come out more regularly as the story would benefit from more rapid progression. Still better than most stuff on Syfy. Would be nice if this one could be made available for streaming inside the browser as well!

Awww ... was hoping for 2000ADs "Zenith" (1)

MarkTina (611072) | more than 3 years ago | (#35554032)

Now that would be a fun movie! :-)

But I shall still take a gander at this one to keep in the spirit of things.

Ouch... (1)

0m3gaMan (745008) | more than 3 years ago | (#35554076)

Even the kind reviews characterize this as a crapfest and non-starter.

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