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The Hobbit Finally Starts Shooting

Soulskill posted about 3 years ago | from the victory-after-all-i-suppose dept.

Lord of the Rings 233

Tiger4 writes "Warner Bros. has announced that production has officially begun on Peter Jackson's movie adaptation of The Hobbit. Jackson even posted a couple of pictures of himself on one of the sets. This despite the strikes, bankruptcies, contract disputes, and legal actions that have swarmed Jackson and the project since his Lord of the Rings days. Admit it, secretly you've been dying to see this happen."

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I know he has a lot to be upset about (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562438)

But why the sudden turn to violence? Who even knew Hobbits had firearms?

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | about 3 years ago | (#35562506)

The new Took had gotten a lot of campaign support from the Arnorian Rifle Association, so even a clearly "cracked" hobbit like Bilbo Baggins could get a gun.

AWESOME!!! (0)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 3 years ago | (#35562618)

Morgan Freeman is going to play Bilbo!

Re:AWESOME!!! (1)

anyGould (1295481) | about 3 years ago | (#35562650)

With Sam L Jackson as Gandalf...

Re:AWESOME!!! (2)

jgagnon (1663075) | about 3 years ago | (#35562708)

Are we going to get a Hobbits on a Plane movie, too?

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (2)

jollyreaper (513215) | about 3 years ago | (#35562514)

But why the sudden turn to violence? Who even knew Hobbits had firearms?

Same way it read to me. I'm imagining Bilbo climbing out of the well with a shotgun. "This! is my boomstick!"
A hobbit with a 'tude? You know that's unheard of.

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (1)

bkpark (1253468) | about 3 years ago | (#35562838)

Same way it read to me. I'm imagining Bilbo climbing out of the well with a shotgun. "This! is my boomstick!"
A hobbit with a 'tude? You know that's unheard of.

This makes sense only if you ignore the italicization of The Hobbit.

In usual convention, italicization indicates a movie or book title (among others), so if you read it as the book The Hobbit started shooting ... you have an overactive imagination.

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562870)

Or, you know, you look at the title in an RSS feed or your browser's title bar.

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (1)

egamma (572162) | about 3 years ago | (#35563332)

Same way it read to me. I'm imagining Bilbo climbing out of the well with a shotgun. "This! is my boomstick!" A hobbit with a 'tude? You know that's unheard of.

This makes sense only if you ignore the italicization of The Hobbit.

In usual convention, italicization indicates a movie or book title (among others), so if you read it as the book The Hobbit started shooting ... you have an overactive imagination.

Buzzkill. Also, on my iGoogle RSS feed, there is no formatting. So there!

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (1)

gad_zuki! (70830) | about 3 years ago | (#35562678)

Violence? In the book where an ancient and beautiful dragon is slayed for his treasure? Or where they endlessly kill goblins and wargs without remorse after stealing the treasure?

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562824)

Those goblins and wargs were an army coming into the area through the mountains specifically to war with the people.

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (1)

Unkyjar (1148699) | about 3 years ago | (#35562896)

Dwarven treasure, it's just that the dragon was holding it for them for a little while. Honest.

because greedo was about to shoot (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | about 3 years ago | (#35562686)

the hobbit was under the table, and could clearly see who was about to shoot first, and han wasn't about to get the jump on greedo, so the hobbit had to rectify the situation

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562696)

He got tired of the "It's not his heart I doubt. It's the length of his arm." And years of being treated like second class Middle Earth citizens. I mean really, Man and Elves got all the glory and Hobbits? NOTHING!

YOU GO HOBBIT! Stick it to the Men! and elves...

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562750)

But why the sudden turn to violence? Who even knew Hobbits had firearms?

Hobbits invented many forms of violence. They were the first ones to "knee cap" some one when they got angry except with a Hobbit they'd bite the person's knees. They also invented head butting which taller people call a kick to the groin. When fighting a human they are also known for biting their opponent on the cheeks thus being the origin of the phrase "bite me" or the term "ass bite".

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (1)

rossdee (243626) | about 3 years ago | (#35562880)

Who said anything about firearms? They had plenty of bows and arrows in Middle Earth, although you would not expect the same sort of accuracy from a Hobbit as you would from an Elf, or even a human.

Better accuracy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35563044)

I thought hobbits were more accurate than humans (if not elves), or does that only apply to throwing stones?

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about 3 years ago | (#35563066)

Actually, hobbits are well known for the accuracy and make excellent bowmen. In the Scouring of the Shire, a good number of Saruman's goons get pretty well-ventilated finding that out (as does Saruman himself in the end, as a matter of fact).

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35563004)

Haha, good to see I wasn't the only one that thought this when reading the title.

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (1)

RevWaldo (1186281) | about 3 years ago | (#35563018)

This does prompt the question of why Middle Earth has fireworks but not firearms. Sure, the fireworks in LOTR are magical fireworks, but still...

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Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (2)

peragrin (659227) | about 3 years ago | (#35563402)

well that and the chinese had fireworks and rockets for hundreds and hundreds of years before firearms came around.

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (2)

argStyopa (232550) | about 3 years ago | (#35563316)

I saw another website had said "Cameras finally roll on Hobbit"...maybe that's why he's ticked?

Re:I know he has a lot to be upset about (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35563334)

2 words: gritty reboot

About time (1)

Kid Zero (4866) | about 3 years ago | (#35562462)

I was wondering what I was going to do in December of 2012(3?)

Re:About time (3, Funny)

tnk1 (899206) | about 3 years ago | (#35562978)

I hear the End of the World is coming out on the 12th. It'll be a blast.

Re:About time (1)

Schemat1c (464768) | about 3 years ago | (#35563094)

I hear the End of the World is coming out on the 12th. It'll be a blast.

It's actually the 21st, on the Winter Solstice.

There now you have 10 more days to live!

Well, the hobbit start shooting?!? (2)

JamesP (688957) | about 3 years ago | (#35562490)

Duck, you fools!!!

Or better, don't duck, hobbits shoot at knee level

Re:Well, the hobbit start shooting?!? (2)

Speare (84249) | about 3 years ago | (#35562648)

Or better, don't duck, hobbits shoot at knee level

"It was pity that stayed his hand," Goodgulf said. "Yeah, pity I ran out of bullets!" Dildo added.

-- Bored of the Rings (from memory, pardon if it's not accurate)

Much as I love Martin Freeman (1)

elrous0 (869638) | about 3 years ago | (#35562492)

Okay I love Martin Freeman from The Office, but isn't he a little old for the role? I guess he is pretty short at least.

And frankly, I still think this whole thing is going to fall apart at some point. Jackson and the studio have been at each other's throats for a long time. I sense a very unamicable parting of the ways coming pretty much any day, shooting or not.

Re:Much as I love Martin Freeman (2)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | about 3 years ago | (#35562552)

Perhaps you meant "isn't he a bit young?" Freeman is almost 40, Bilbo Baggins is 50 in the Hobbit.

Hobbits live longer (4, Informative)

tepples (727027) | about 3 years ago | (#35562606)

Hobbits also live a bit longer than H. sapiens. They reach "maturity" in their early 30s and expect to live to 100 (source [wikia.com]).

Re:Hobbits live longer (1)

LordNacho (1909280) | about 3 years ago | (#35562780)

Hobbits also live a bit longer than H. sapiens. They reach "maturity" in their early 30s and expect to live to 100 (source [wikia.com]).

This is not much different from modern (rich world) humans... move out of mom and dads at late twenties (even later in southern Europe... look up the term "milieurista"), expected lifetime in the high 70s, good chance of 100 if you live sensibly.

No secret I want to see it (4, Insightful)

trollertron3000 (1940942) | about 3 years ago | (#35562496)

No secret needed. I want to see this film. It was my favorite of all the books and I'm dying to see their interpretation of Smaug.

Re:No secret I want to see it (2)

somersault (912633) | about 3 years ago | (#35562754)

Likewise, I really enjoyed The Hobbit. When I attempted LOTR I got bored near the end of the second book (well, "book" IV of VI I suppose), and never picked it up again. It's a far better paced story than LOTR.

I think it's like the difference between Star Wars VI-VI and I-III. I-III try to be far too epic, and fail miserably. The first movies felt a lot more personal, and so did The Hobbit. Also, changing the ring from a simple invisibility charm to the "one ring to rule them all" felt like too much of a stretch for me, and kind of spoiled how cool it was.

Re:No secret I want to see it (2)

blair1q (305137) | about 3 years ago | (#35563092)

Well, the difference between the Star Wars movies and those 3 pretenders is the change in writers and directors. Although if the change had been for the better, not the worse, we'd have a whole different take on the prequels.

Whereas in this case, it's the same dude, and it may not be different enough to make it truly interesting.

Re:No secret I want to see it (4, Informative)

Joce640k (829181) | about 3 years ago | (#35563102)

Believe it or not The Hobbit was written as a kid's book and LOTR was written for adults.

(LOTR has plenty of plot holes, you're supposed to enjoy the prose...)

Re:No secret I want to see it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35563326)

Well I for one hope they don't stick Jar-Jar in it.

I hope there aren't 5 fake death scenes (1)

danbuter (2019760) | about 3 years ago | (#35562512)

I don't know how Peter Jackson is going to cram in enough fake death scenes for this. But I guess he can do it with the trolls, the orcs, smaug, and the battle of five armies.

Re:I hope there aren't 5 fake death scenes (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562704)

He doesn't really need fake death scenes...

***Spoiler***

as a few of the dwarves actually do die in the battle.

Re:I hope there aren't 5 fake death scenes (2)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | about 3 years ago | (#35563234)

Well, they're having to split the shortest book into two movies, so I'm guessing they're going to let him do all the slow-motion he wants.

I admit it... (1)

AntEater (16627) | about 3 years ago | (#35562530)

I've secretly been dying to see this happen.

Re:I admit it... (1)

Eggplant62 (120514) | about 3 years ago | (#35562968)

Risking a "me too" post, yes, I am too. I sat in the theatre crying during the opening scenes of Fellowship of the Ring. It was all too real, too much like what my imagination had done for it already. Getting Hobbit underway is a stroke of really good news that another well-loved tale will come to life for me again. Now, let's hope Jackson gets this thing in the can and out on the screens some time before I die.

Was there ever a doubt? (1)

Joce640k (829181) | about 3 years ago | (#35563060)

It's pretty obvious PJ was just waiting for what he calls "The Right Price". /Apologies to Douglas Adams...

I ate a Cats Tounge (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562532)

"Admit it, secretly you've been dying to see this happen"
No, I have a job, a life and live above ground

Characters (1)

ChinggisK (1133009) | about 3 years ago | (#35562546)

And apparently it's got Frodo, Legolas, Galadriel, and Sauruman in it...

Re:Characters (1)

LordNacho (1909280) | about 3 years ago | (#35562800)

Same actors?

Re:Characters (1)

ChinggisK (1133009) | about 3 years ago | (#35562860)

Yessir.

Re:Characters (1)

shadowfaxcrx (1736978) | about 3 years ago | (#35563058)

I can understand Frodo - presumably Bilbo would have interacted with him in the Shire. but Legolas? Shouldn't he still be screwing around in Mirkwood at the time of the Hobbit?

And the Lucky 13 never go to Lothlorien, so why would they see Galadriel? Same goes for Saruman.

I'm not one of those LOTR critics who thinks Jackson screwed up by having too much Arwen in the trilogy, but this might be going a little far.

Re:Characters (1)

ChinggisK (1133009) | about 3 years ago | (#35563174)

I'm pretty sure Frodo shouldn't even be born yet, but I guess it's not too much of a stretch that they could run into Legolas while in Mirkwood. The others are starting to get ridiculous though. I heard they're expanding on what Gandalf was doing while he was off away from the others (something to do with trying to keep Sauron from coming back?).

Re:Characters (1)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | about 3 years ago | (#35563290)

Well, since they're imprisoned in the home of the forest elves for a good while, that's not much of a stretch, even.

Re:Characters (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35563192)

The dwarves + hobbit party is captured in Mirkwood and made prisoner in Thranduil's fortress, Thrandiul being Legolas' father. So having Legolas around would be rather natural. However I don't see how they can put Galadriel in without major imagination efforts.

Re:Characters (1)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | about 3 years ago | (#35563260)

Except frodo wasn't born until Bilbo was 88 years old...Some 30 years after he came *back* from his adventures.

Given the amount of rewriting he did the first time around, nothing would surprise me.

Re:Characters (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35563354)

Actually, Frodo was born in 2968 and Bilbo left for his adventure 2941. Frodo shouldn't be in the movie at all, seeing as he wasn't born.

Re:Characters (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35563440)

Yes, Legolas should be in the Mirkwood. Bilbo and the dwarves spent some time in the Mirkwood. During that time, they become prisoners of the local elven kingdom, which happens to be ruled by Thranduil, Legolas' father.

So making Legolas show up shouldn't be implausible at all. Just make sure he doesn't end up defeating Smaug.

Re:Characters (5, Informative)

Dracos (107777) | about 3 years ago | (#35563236)

Some corrections for you, off the top of my head:

Elijah Wood (Frodo) is coming back to do some narration.

Orlando Bloom (Legolas) is still negotiating over his appearance.

Cate Blanchett (Galadriel), Christopher Lee (Saruman), and Hugo Weaving (Elrond) are all returning, and of course Ian McKellan (Gandalf).

Re:Characters (1)

ChinggisK (1133009) | about 3 years ago | (#35563374)

Gotcha. I could kind of see how they'd work in Galadriel and Sauruman but I was really confused as to what Elijah Wood was doing in there. Making a little more sense now.

Well, it might be great... or not (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562554)

So will this be the epic success that it should be? Or has it be ethnticly changed like so many other movies and turned into yet another example of how changing the orginal story can turn gold to poop.

Not dying at all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562604)

"Admit it, secretly you've been dying to see this happen."

After the travesty that was LotR, you couldn't pay me to watch a Jackson version of The Hobbit.

Re:Not dying at all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562634)

Guess I'm not the only one who fell asleep during the first film and didn't bother with the other two.

I loved the books, though, and since the Hobbit is a more succinct story, I do want to watch this new version.

Meh. (0)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | about 3 years ago | (#35562632)

I'm still pissed that they dumped Del Toro. The only thing I thought was decent about the first three was Gollum. Oh well.

Re:Meh. (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | about 3 years ago | (#35562652)

they didn't want smaug to have eyeballs on his hands

Re:Meh. (1)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | about 3 years ago | (#35563176)

Actually he was totally stoked to do a dragon, and had this massive and interesting workup...Love him or hate him, he's one of the most original creature guys out there. He'd have done a badass Smaug...And the fricking spiders? Holy shit.

Re:Meh. (1)

Tiger4 (840741) | about 3 years ago | (#35562746)

They didn't dump him, he moved on to get some kind of paying gig. He wanted to get to work and the studio was still drowning in red ink. They couldn't pay for pre-production, so nothing was happening.

Surprise! Not. (3, Insightful)

TopSpin (753) | about 3 years ago | (#35562738)

At least for some of us. [slashdot.org] No matter what obstacle emerges it will still get made. The Hobbit is probably worth more than $2 billion. Tolkiens, unions, ulcers, whatever; ultimately the various and sundry stake holders want their cut and for that to happen it must appear in the theater, and they all know it.

pete jackson has his work cut out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562776)

seeing as martin freeman has 1 mode of acting. its going to be 'the bloke from the office in middleearth'

Oh noes, Muammer is unhappy... (2)

Obfuscant (592200) | about 3 years ago | (#35562778)

Did anyone else just finish reading the story about the Dutch guy tweeting aircraft data for the attacks on Libya and assume that this story was about Qadafi's response?

Gunpowder for fireworks (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562810)

But no one in Middle Earth has figured out how to make a firearm except Bilbo?

unrequesitioned combo (1)

Thud457 (234763) | about 3 years ago | (#35562994)

thanks a lot, now I have an image of Bilbo scrambling around some great cave trying to gather niter, charcoal and sulfur like Captain Kirk.

No, not really... (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | about 3 years ago | (#35562814)

Admit it, secretly you've been dying to see this happen.

Not really. I was crazy about LOTR, that was an epic novel that clearly could be turned into an equally epic movie (and yes, it was a single, 11 hours long movie, that just happened to be split in 3 parts). The Hobbit, on the other hand, is a much lighter and simpler tale; a delicious novel, sure, but not one that seems especially suited to be turned into a movie of the same kind.

Why does it say "2" Films? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562836)

Why does it say "2" films in the article?. Is the hobbit going to be divided up into two pieces?

Am I the only one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35562840)

I was really into the first three but just haven't watched them for a few years. Now with this announcement I'm just kinda "meh" about it.

Currency (1)

Wireless Joe (604314) | about 3 years ago | (#35562882)

Despite all the problems, there was too much guaranteed money to be made to not get this project finished. This movie could stink like an ostrich fart and still make a billion dollars in merchandise alone.

Could take it or leave it. (3, Interesting)

blair1q (305137) | about 3 years ago | (#35562990)

LOTR was okay. The remake will no doubt be better (except for the inevitable downgrade in the Arwen department).

But there were like 18 hours of it. Left me somewhat burnt out.

Unless Jackson has significantly altered his style I'm not sure The Hobbit will feel like anything new.

Re:Could take it or leave it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35563362)

I think the story will require Jackson to take quite a different approach. He's always been about authenticity to the story and portraying that correctly in film.

They did a great job with it in LOTR, and gave it the same feel as the books. I'm confident he can do the same for The Hobbit.

The Hobbit (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | about 3 years ago | (#35562996)

We made it into a musical back in 1965 during summer camp. I was a tree.. or frog, something like that, I forget. It was such a smash, it was held over for a second night.

DIAF (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35563010)

Peter Jackson please go DIAF.

Game of Thrones (1)

eddy (18759) | about 3 years ago | (#35563106)

I'm more excited about something that's a bit closer on the timeline, the Game of Thrones [thevoiceoftv.com] series. A little less black vs white, hopefully.

Liked it best (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | about 3 years ago | (#35563182)

Personally I've always liked The Hobbit far more than the LotR trilogy. A much more compact and enjoyable tale - once you could get past the opening jammed full of what are hobbits, 13 dwarves all with names, and what's that wizard doing in all of this? I do realize that this is sacrilege comparable to saying that I likes PC's more than Apples.

This one has me worried (4, Interesting)

Shivetya (243324) | about 3 years ago | (#35563266)

There are two major encounters which can completely blow the film. The obvious is Smaug. I haven't seen a good dragon since Dragonslayer. The second is the spiders in the woods. I am not overly worried about the Worgs meeting on the hilltop but the Eagles may be a bit more an issue. The story in The Hobbit is more fantastic from the non humanoid side than LOTR was. So it opens itself to more chances to be bad.

As for where they break the story, probably after the Spiders and having the dwarves doing their barrel ride, else after the trolls. I am not really sure where a good break is with this book but those the two major events before getting to the Lonely Mountain.

I hope Nimoy gets a cameo (4, Funny)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | about 3 years ago | (#35563312)

I hope Leonard Nimoy gets a cameo in the movie, and a reprise musical number. He'd make a great elf, with the pointy ears and all.

Hey Peter! (1)

Sla$hPot (1189603) | about 3 years ago | (#35563382)

Just in case you ever read SlashDot.
Why don't you cast your self as Bilbo?
It's so much you! standing in front of the circular door at the set.
Will you consider it? Peter Baggins?

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