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Nintendo 3DS Battery Is Quick To Die and Slow To Charge

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the 3-d-may-have-been-a-reference-to-extra-batteries dept.

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An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from the Opposable Thumbs blog: "The battery in the Nintendo 3DS is as bad as we had feared, and it's a major impediment to enjoying the system. ... With the screen at a reasonable brightness, 3D and wireless turned off when the game allowed it, and no sound, we were about to get to a little over 4.5 hours of playtime. If you like a brighter screen, keep 3D turned on, or if you have that speaker going, that time is only going to go down. ... Using the cradle whenever the system isn't being played is a habit you're going to want to pick up, especially with a charging time of around three and a half hours."

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Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (2, Insightful)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563020)

Pick 2 for handhelds: Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful, large.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (5, Funny)

TheCRAIGGERS (909877) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563072)

Pick 2 for handhelds: Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful, large.

Slim and large, please.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (2)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563100)

And powerful and slow, if it's not too much to ask.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563144)

Here Here!

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (4, Funny)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563180)

Note to self, never try this again while trying to get first post. I failed forever =(

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563214)

Don't worry, we meant what you knew.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (2, Insightful)

jayme0227 (1558821) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563368)

How about never try again for a first post?

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563516)

But then how would he whore out is dropbox.com referrals?

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1)

Fibe-Piper (1879824) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563994)

You got first post.You win!

Oh wait, you mean the rest of it. Right,that's a confirmed fail.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (2)

by (1706743) (1706744) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563918)

And powerful and slow, if it's not too much to ask.

I know this was a humorous comment, but (at least by my definitions) slow and powerful aren't mutually exclusive. Running, say, PostgreSQL on a 486 is a very powerful tool -- but it might be painfully slow. Actually, I'd be curious to see the difference in speed between a modern computer running Excel and a 486 running PostgreSQL/MySQL working on a dataset of a million rows / dozen columns or so. Apples and oranges, but still...

Of course, if you use a definition of "power" as "stuff per unit time," ("stuff" = "energy" for the standard definition, "computation ability" in this example), then powerful and slow do seem to be antonyms (assuming we agree on the definition of slow...).

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1, Informative)

DarkIye (875062) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563278)

One iPad coming up.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563410)

So one Dell Streak for you...

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1)

Moryath (553296) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564248)

Slim and large, please.

Oh, so you want a Macbook Air-type device then.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563076)

How does slow and powerful combine again?

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563086)

Bad CPU, great GPU.

Next smartass comment.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563424)

Or slow storage with a powerful CPU and decent RAM, commonly referred to as "a modern off-the-shelf PC."

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564170)

A Matchbox tractor.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1)

Guignol (159087) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564348)

It would mean it has to do more work than a faster device

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1)

fredmosby (545378) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563194)

Pick 2 for handhelds: Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful, large.

Unless you're talking about an iPad.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (0)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563220)

handheld

iPad

Hand held - A mobile device (also known as cellphone device, handheld device, handheld computer, "Palmtop" or simply handheld) is a pocket-sized computing device, typically having a display screen with touch input or a miniature keyboard.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1)

fredmosby (545378) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564744)

handheld

iPad

Hand held - A mobile device (also known as cellphone device, handheld device, handheld computer, "Palmtop" or simply handheld) is a pocket-sized computing device, typically having a display screen with touch input or a miniature keyboard.

Generally arguing definitions means useful discussion is over, and people are just arguing over who's right and who's wrong. That said, I think of the iPad as a hend held device because it's designed to be held while it's in use. Also, in some ways it's more portable than a 3DS, for example it has a much longer battery life.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (1)

rsmith-mac (639075) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563224)

Although I think you missed the point of the "Pick 2" gag, much like the DS(1), the 3DS has already foregone "powerful". It's an ARM11 CPU, little RAM, and a GPU that's basically OpenGL ES 1.1 (iPhone 1 era) with a couple extra fixed-function features. The only thing not out of date is the 3D screen, but that's something that can be turned off.

With the 3D screen turned off it should by all means be small and long lasting, but this is not the case. Instead it's just small; small, short lasting, slow, and not very cheap. Clearly Nintendo has flubbed the 3DS - I only question whether this is an overall failure to execute, or if they simply sacrificed too much for that damn 3D screen.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563486)

So, how's that first-post spamming of your dropbox reference workin' out for ya there, Sparky?

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (3, Informative)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563548)

1. Guess who is logged on that checked AC and replied. I'll give you a hint, sigs don't display if you aren't logged in with cookies disabled.
2. Disable sigs if it bothers you so much, or learn to make a greasemonkey script that filters text you don't like out. http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/56790 [userscripts.org] Here's an old one I whipped up a while ago for something else. You'd have to fiddle with it a little by removing all of my stupid filters, removing a tag from bad tags, and other random crap I am too lazy to actually do.
3. Very well actually. I have 12 referrals. They don't give me cash, just Dropbox space, FYI.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35564376)

LOL you sounded as if you were talking about Vibrators.

Re:Slim, slow, long lasting, powerful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35564506)

The fr0st p5ot marked Redundant. Slashfags strike again!

Whoa... (4, Interesting)

Blues_39 (2003458) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563078)

Game Gear flashback incoming.

Re:Whoa... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563168)

Hey, at least with the Game Gear you could swap out the six car batteries as needed instead of waiting for them to charge.

Re:Whoa... (1)

Golddess (1361003) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564460)

The idiocy of AC's comment about the kind of batteries used (I wonder if they realize the original GB also took the same "car batteries", using 4 to GG's 6), they do still have a point. For better or for worse, gone are the days of just popping in a fresh set of batteries.

Re:Whoa... (1)

lennier1 (264730) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563218)

At least the Game Gear had an optional TV tuner.

Re:Whoa... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563340)

"Game Gear flashback incoming."

Well, so long as we're not flashing back to an Atari Lynx we should be fine.

Re:Whoa... (5, Funny)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563348)

Not to mention the Lynx, the PSP... When will these companies ever learn that lean and cheap outsells powerful and expensive? They make the same mistakes over and over again, and Nintendo eats their lunch.

I'm confident that Nintendo will steamroll over whoever makes this "3DS" thing.

If only (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563444)

The Game Gear had bitchin' games and wasn't region-locked or remote-brickable. The 3DS can only wish it was a Game Gear.

Re:Whoa... (1)

Nidi62 (1525137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563898)

Game Gear flashback incoming.

So, Nintendo is making a Shaq-fu for the 3DS?

Hey, one can dream, right?

Simple solution... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563098)

Add a crank to the system so you can wind it up. This will have the added benefit of making the 3DS an actual exercise device, so I can get my doctor to prescribe one.

Re:Simple solution... (1)

jank1887 (815982) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563670)

RSI FTW!

not that big a deal (1)

Murdoch5 (1563847) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563134)

So 4.5 hours isn't that bad, charging at 3 hours isn't that bad either. Why don't you just got outside and bike or run or walk or anything else in this time, it wont kill you.

On a serious note, 4.5 hours isn't that horrible. I mean yes we would like a much longer charge on the battery but at the same time it's 3D on a game system. I remember getting 4.5 hours on a cheap set of battery's on the grey gameboy and I was sound as a pound. I didn't even get new battery's for a few days being I was in grade 2, the kids will live trust me.

Re:not that big a deal (1)

Onuma (947856) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563238)

However, compared to the original DS or DS Lite, that's atrocious. Played with low sound, or through headphones, my DS Lite lasts significantly longer; I'd estimate 12 hours or so. The GameBoy Advance SP was even better -- turn off the backlight and lower the sound, and you could get over 24 hours of gameplay with that sucker.

So yeah, while 4.5 hours (on a brand-new battery) isn't horrid in itself, consider its predecessors and it's terrible. Also consider the fact that a rechargeable battery only has a set amount of charge cycles before it is effectively useless. There will be a lot of people who get about 90 minutes/charge in about a year...and with an equally loathsome 3 hours to refill. Battery "memory" is a bitch.

Re:not that big a deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563456)

Well, yeah - battery life compared to the DS or DS lite is bad... But at the same time you are getting 3D without glasses which, compared to the DS or DS Lite, is better. So there is a trade-off. Sorry, but technology just isn't advanced enough yet to have 3D without glasses with battery life that is 10 hours long and a 30 minute charge time.

Re:not that big a deal (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563472)

. Played with low sound, or through headphones, my DS Lite lasts significantly longer; I'd estimate 12 hours or so.

Having had a DS Lite, I think your estimates is too low. I've had at least 18 hours with that sucker.

Granted, I tended to play with the brightness turned down a notch or two...

Re:not that big a deal (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563286)

So 4.5 hours isn't that bad, charging at 3 hours isn't that bad either. Why don't you just got outside and bike or run or walk or anything else in this time, it wont kill you.

My DSi XL gets something like 15 hours, charging at 3 hours.

And that's like 5 hours less than the DS Lite got with the same charge time.

How is the 3DS's 4.5 hours anything but a downstep?

Re:not that big a deal (1)

Murdoch5 (1563847) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563450)

I never said it wasn't a down step, I said it wasn't a big deal.

Re:not that big a deal (2)

WhirlwindMonk (1975382) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563296)

Sounds great! Just tell me where I can go biking or running halfway through an international flight and I'll be golden!

Re:not that big a deal (3, Funny)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563428)

Up and down the middle isle of course. You can use the stewardesses and meal carts as hurdles.

Re:not that big a deal (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563696)

I'm sorry to hear you live on international flights and never stop anywhere like a hotel or your home to plug the device in. Nintendo does try to accommodate many different types of gamers, but gamers who not just figuratively but actually, literally spend their entire lives on international flights that don't have sockets to plug things like that in* just don't make a large enough market to turn a profit.

I'm also sorry to hear that not only does your rampant ADD force you to constantly pump entertainment into your sponge-like brain, 24/7, but that, even in full knowledge of your requirement for constant entertainment and intimate knowledge of the lengths of each in your lifelong series of international flights (knowledge assumed from how often you are on them), you are apparently so shortsighted in your planning and limited in the variety of said entertainment you are willing to accept as to only bring one single form of airplane worthy amusement. I would suggest other things to pass the time, up to and including sleep, but sadly, as is obvious, we both cannot depend on you remembering such suggestions that far in advance, if you even got to the end of this paragraph at all.

Modern society is hard on people with your disabilities, moreso in the gaming world, but I am certain that, with strength and determination, you can adapt.

*: Yes, I am aware that there exist international flights where such luxuries are only afforded to first class passengers. However, given how much you clearly fly such that this specific issue is the major linchpin that prevents you from considering the product in question, I feel it is safe to assume you are a member of some manner of frequent flier program and hold a standing in said program that would allow you to effectively take first class upgrades at your leisure.

Re:not that big a deal (1)

Golddess (1361003) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564652)

On a serious note, 4.5 hours isn't that horrible. I mean yes we would like a much longer charge on the battery but at the same time it's 3D on a game system.

Sounded like 4.5 hours was only with the 3D off.

Won't bother me personally. (4, Insightful)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563152)

4.5 hours is still about 4 times what I get on my laptop, and twice what I get on my PSP.
Not to mention I'm a loser and have access to electrical outlets almost 24/7

Re:Won't bother me personally. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563206)

By "loser", you mean "stylish loser" [voltaicsystems.com] , right? You sexy beast, you.

Re:Won't bother me personally. (1)

Zandamesh (1689334) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564476)

You got a bad psp battery then, my psp used to last 6 hours when I bought it, now it lasts around 4 but it nothing unbearable.

Sad (5, Insightful)

llZENll (545605) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563156)

You know kids are spoiled when they have a mobile gaming system that is 3D and think that 4.5 hours of battery is short! It's also a testament to Nintendo's games and system when 4.5 hours can be over before you know it. That is a long time. Seriously, if 4.5 hours of battery is the biggest complaint they have about this system I have no idea why this is front page news, the battery looks like you can just pop in a new one so what is the big deal?

Re:Sad (1)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563200)

This is what I was thinking as well. The only issue that they'll complain about there is changing batteries requires you to input all of your profile information again, unless they somehow changed that in these newer ones.

Re:Sad (2)

TheCRAIGGERS (909877) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563282)

Nintendo handhelds have traditionally been great on battery life. Even the newer DS gets over 10 hours.

So I don't think it's so much as complaining (ok, it is) but that people are used to Nintendo gear lasting through a long car ride / flight.

Re:Sad (1)

Jibekn (1975348) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563318)

You know kids are spoiled when they have a mobile gaming system that is 3D and think that 4.5 hours of battery is short! It's also a testament to Nintendo's games and system when 4.5 hours can be over before you know it. That is a long time. Seriously, if 4.5 hours of battery is the biggest complaint they have about this system I have no idea why this is front page news, the battery looks like you can just pop in a new one so what is the big deal?

I don't know about you, but I got alot more than 4.5 hours on my original game boy. And yes, I had the sound on and brightness maxed. Its not too much to expect an improvement in battery life with every iteration.

Re:Sad (5, Funny)

chispito (1870390) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563400)

I don't know about you, but I got alot more than 4.5 hours on my original game boy. And yes, I had the sound on and brightness maxed. Its not too much to expect an improvement in battery life with every iteration.

We all had the brightness maxed out on our original Gameboys.

Re:Sad (1)

MichaelKristopeit408 (2018816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563522)

Its not too much to expect an improvement in battery life with every iteration.

it is if you're also expecting new features that require more electricity.

... or do you expect your products to be designed poorly, thus allowing for "improvements" to be made simply by removing intentionally built-in setbacks?

i hope the gameboy 4DS ships with a pipeline manager that inserts a noop between every command... IMAGINE THE NEXT "ITERATION" WHEN IT GETS REMOVED!!!

you're an idiot.

Re:Sad (2)

chispito (1870390) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563454)

You know kids are spoiled

I think you know kids are spoiled when their parents buy them a $250 handhelds.

Re:Sad (1)

jank1887 (815982) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563722)

As a parent currently on the 'you cheap bastard' end of the what to get the kids for there birthday discussion, I salute you, sir.

Re:Sad (5, Insightful)

SethThresher (1958152) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563572)

On top of that, this assumes that you have someone who would regularly sit down and play this 3DS, uninterrupted, for over 4 and a half hours. FOUR AND A HALF HOURS. For an adult like most of us here, at that point you're probably shirking some responsibility, not to mention eating, etc. For a teenager, when was the last time any teen had that much uninterrupted time free of homework, school, chores, sports, clubs, and all that crazy stuff? For a child, just for starters kids are advised to have, at a maximum, no more than 2 hours of screentime a day. And really, how many attentive and effective parents would allow their kid to veg out for that long? Sure, we have the irresponsible, the lazy, etc, but that's not what this is meant for. Yes, 4.5 hours is a heck of a lot shorter than the 12+ I get from my DS Lite with the brightness turned down and the WiFi off, but I'm not going to sit there and use it in one sitting. You will have outliers and extenuating circumstances, long car rides/flights included, but if you know you're going to be in a situation like that, you can probably plan for better than one form of entertainment for that long.

Yes, Nintendo can try and engineer a fix for someone who wants to play gameboy for 6 hours straight, but should they? 4.5 is perfectly usable for normal use. Just get in the habit of plugging it in to charge when you're done playing.

Sad is right (2)

oGMo (379) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563582)

4.5 hours is what I'd call sad ... note that the metric is just a useful one based on time-to-die from a full charge while playing under certain settings. Realistic use is going to be play for an hour or few, suspend, play some more, suspend, etc. This eats up that juice with a lot of non-play-time. Unless you're diligent about plugging it in every time you turn it off (unreasonable for what should be a portable unit), every time you turn this on it'll be dead or dying.

This is essentially the insult on top of the "barely upgraded graphics" and "3D gives you a headache and only works if the device and your head are absolutely stationary" injury. (If you don't believe these are true, go try one ... Best Buy has demo units. 3D is definitely cool and I'd rather they just used polarized glasses.) My guess is they assume you're actually going to play with the thing on its charging base screwed to a table, so battery life wouldn't be an issue anyway.

Anyhow this unit is definitely the "original GBA" of its generation. I'm sure it'll be cited along with the "no backlight" design of the original GBA as "bad decisions that made a desirable device nearly unplayable". I'll stick with my DS Lite until they have the 3DSi Lite SP Turbo Plus Platinum XL or whatever the second revision is called.

Re:Sad is right (1)

_xeno_ (155264) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563754)

This is essentially the insult on top of the "barely upgraded graphics" and "3D gives you a headache and only works if the device and your head are absolutely stationary" injury. (If you don't believe these are true, go try one ... Best Buy has demo units. 3D is definitely cool and I'd rather they just used polarized glasses.)

They also had demo units at PAX East. Somewhat strangely, the demo was a 3D Augmented Reality game. You had to aim the 3DS cameras to hit targets displayed in 3D. For example, the AR would generate a hole in the table with a target at the bottom. You'd have to move the 3DS over the hole to be able to aim at the target.

Ultimately, all this moving of the 3DS meant that it was incredibly easy to lose the 3D effect. Especially because the 3DS was tethered to the table, so I at least couldn't hold it up to eye-level.

It was kind of a strange demo to choose. Not sure why they'd choose a demo where you had to wave the 3DS around, thereby guaranteeing you'd lose the 3D effect.

Re:Sad (2)

_xeno_ (155264) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563608)

Possibly because four and a half hours is the best case scenario. That's playing without sound, without Wi-Fi, and without 3D.

Actually, the article's really confusing on the "without 3D" bit since it says they played without 3D "when the game allowed it" - but I think that's an editing mistake, and the "when the game allowed it" refers only to Wi-Fi being off, but I'm not sure.

In any case, if you turn on sound and turn on 3D - you know, like most people will probably do, given that the 3D is kind of the point - you get closer to three hours battery life.

Which may not be exactly horrible, but it's not exactly good. That's actually worse than the PSP, which is somewhat notorious for horrible battery life.

Re:Sad (1)

delta534 (1364381) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563690)

The average gamer was probably expecting twice the battery life from Nintendo based on their track record.

Re:Sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563714)

Advances change what we want. Do you feel like you're spoiled because you "need" a car and house instead of a horse and hut?

Re:Sad (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563728)

It's not 3D with 4.5 hours of battery. And 4.5 hours doesn't last for a cross country flight let along for a significant portion of that trip to Australia. And it looks like you need to unscrew a few screws to change the battery something that is not really practical on a plane (too easy to lose the tiny screws, too much fun getting the screw driver though security).

Re:Sad (1)

IB4Student (1885914) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564034)

Lots of planes have outlets, and this is a lot better than what my PSP gets. My flights home and to school are only about 2 hours (1000 miles), though, so both would be able to hold me down for most, if not all, of the flight, in the case that I don't have my charger on me.

Re:Sad (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564242)

Whereas my DS gets used once a year on the flight from Los Angeles to Sydney (by the kid) which has never had outlets in the past (it's $4000 worth of plane tickets for discount economy spending even more isn't high on my priorities, but I would live on the other side of the planet to the rest of the family). It wouldn't last the entire flight being used, but some sleeping is done so it's usually working, with the red battery indicator on, when we arrive.

Re:Sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563816)

The problem is not that people consider a 4.5 hour gaming session normal, but that this handheld has had its battery life decreased quite significantly from its previous generation, which could last about 10 hours. The same happens when you play old DS games. If you look at phone and tablet trends, it tends to be the opposite.

In the end, the actual problem is that a device of this kind will be low on battery when you want to use it the most. And let's not forget the amount of recharges we must do, which will in turn decrease battery quality over time.

Re:Sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563922)

most parents would think that even those 4.5 hours are too long ...

Re:Sad (1)

AK Marc (707885) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564422)

It may not be frequently, but I've averaged over one flight a year of 12+ hours. Being able to use it for that period is a plus. Having it not last long enough is frustrating, especially since almost all its predecessors were able to hit that time. And carrying multiple batteries to swap in when you are leaving for an extended trip is an extra weight and expense.

Nintendo 3DS Battery (3, Insightful)

prakslash (681585) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563208)

To be sure, it isn't the battery that is "bad".
It is the same Li-ion rechargeable battery used in prior systems.
It even has more capacity: 1300 mAh. This is about 50% more than the 850 mAh battery used in DSi and 30% more than the 1000mAh batteries used in DsiXL and DSLite.

The problem, as the Republicans in the US often say, is spending. With the brighter screens necessary for 3D, wi-fi and better video and sound support, the thing will suck juice like a mutha.
The other option for Nintendo would have been to tack on a laptop style battery which wouldn't work for a portable game system.

Re:Nintendo 3DS Battery (1)

kilo242 (774305) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563732)

The other option for Nintendo would have been to tack on a laptop style battery which wouldn't work for a portable game system.

Except that this: http://www.openpandora.org/ [openpandora.org] has a 4000 mAh battery yet is only slightly smaller than the original DS phat. And looks to have room for the second screen and controls if you remove the keyboard and associated hardware.

Re:Nintendo 3DS Battery (1)

Smidge207 (1278042) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564456)

Slow to anger, quick to forgive; that's God. Idiot.

Re:Nintendo 3DS Battery (1)

tgibbs (83782) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564530)

Not to mention that a 3D system has to do twice as much perspective calculation to render the image, as it has to generate two full images, one for each eye, for each frame.

Please die 3D (0)

jimmerz28 (1928616) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563242)

Here's hoping this is another tomb stone we can lay for the death of all that is 3D.

Re:Please die 3D (2)

Captain Spam (66120) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563366)

Well, as we learned earlier on Slashdot, according to some theories, the universe WAS 2D a while ago. Maybe if we get enough complaints, we can roll back to there and leave out depth until we patch the bugs in the laws of physics. It wouldn't lay ALL that is 3D to death, as this universe is going to need to upgrade eventually to stay competitive with other universes, but it should make dimensional comprehension easier for now.

Not bad for first in its class (3, Informative)

jijacob (943393) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563246)

To be honest, that seems like a reasonable life considering what it is doing. For those that feel it is a deal-breaker, I'm sure there are options to extend the battery.

4.5 hours with 3D off (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563276)

Plenty of people saying "suck it up", essentially, because 4.5 hours is a long time for a 3D gaming system but this is with 3D turned off.

It's not terrible, but it's less than the DS Lite (1)

ZackSchil (560462) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563314)

The DS Lite would get between 8 and 10 hours of battery life. It was pretty great. Roughly half is a pretty big step down comparatively, even if it's still decent, especially considering the unit's size, power, and capability.

Re:It's not terrible, but it's less than the DS Li (1)

rvr777 (1082819) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563730)

The DS Lite can get 15~19h between recharges in the lowest brightness setting.

Compared to DS/SP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563328)

Which were both rated for around 10 hours in ideal conditions according to some quick googling, it is less than half the original life span. For most people this isn't going to be a problem - how often have you needed to play for more than 3 hours at a time? In nearly any situation, you can avoid your problems by:

Carrying a second charged battery ( I do this with my camera in the event I don't think to charge the one in use )
Playing in those recommended short periods with rest ( if you take a ten minute break each hour ) to stretch the total time with a charge
Use a power adapter - either from an outlet or inverted from a car.

The only time I can think where the battery life is going to be an issue would be long car trips ( assuming no inverter ) where you are going to travel for multiple hours before stopping long enough to charge, or any similar scenario where there is no available power.

And in those cases, a simple 12v solar charger would be all you need for passive recharging - on a sunny day you could possibly run AC off it.

Re:Compared to DS/SP (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563432)

Carrying a second charged battery

If you tried that on the DS Lite, you'd get prompted to reset your name, the clock, etc.

And in those cases, a simple 12v solar charger would be all you need for passive recharging - on a sunny day you could possibly run AC off it.

Or I could just stick to Wild World [nookipedia.com] and run AC without being tethered to a charger. It's not like City Folk for Wii is any big improvement, and I'm sure the changes in AC for 3DS [nookipedia.com] will cause civil war among the fandom [tvtropes.org] just like AC1 vs. Wild World did.

Re:Compared to DS/SP (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563726)

I take it you have never taken an international flight?

Not really a big issue IMHO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563430)

If you need more run-time, just get an external battery pack! Just like we did with the original Gameboy!

Long charging time is GOOD (2)

hcdejong (561314) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563462)

It's my observation that short charging times lead to early battery replacement. I'd rather the charger take it a bit slower and avoid overheating or overcharging the battery.

Re:Long charging time is GOOD (2)

cyberfin (1454265) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563972)

I have to agree. Plus, I'm guessing nintendo does NOT want the 3DS to be plagued with complaints of bad battery lifespan

Re:Long charging time is GOOD (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564120)

I have to agree. Plus, I'm guessing nintendo does NOT want the 3DS to be plagued with complaints of bad battery lifespan

Less that, more "battery fires" that have plagued many devices in the past. Especially Apple, but that could be due to sheer numbers.

Meh (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563478)

Doesn't really bother me, but I'm not getting one anyways. My son might. Either way, more juice than my PSP(which I don't mind) or my laptop.

Its the software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563480)

I got to play around with one of the QA tester kits a few weeks ago, and it went from full to dead in under 30 minutes, I swear. These are the same form-factor and 1300mAh battery as retail units, but CPU might have been running in a debug mode. Posting AC because my friends at a game dev company are under NDA about these things.

Its going to depend very much on the individual software titles how well the battery lasts. Dark colors, wi-fi, heavy cpu usage, and the 3D setting all contribute to shorter battery life, so there will be large differences in the battery performance and a per-title basis.

It's also replaceable (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563488)

It's also replaceable, with model-friendly replacements already being offered, such as Nyko's;
http://www.nyko.com/products/?platform=3DS [nyko.com]

Yes, these typically increase the thickness of your device (spam e-mail subject, I know!) - but if you're looking for longer battery life, it's a pretty good option.

It's pretty much par for the course for handhelds, and a bunch of other mobile devices; even for dSLRs you can get extended battery options.

babys et al; diaperleaks scandal unfolding (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563498)

comments;' it's like living in another (polluted aquatic) dimension. we were told this might not happen.

over at movingrightalong.prfirm.(darewesay); not a big problem. millions of them have no food, &/or are being shot at/killed , and/or trying to live almost under freezing water, so the still alive ones ones won't have to fret about overflowing them diap's much longer? on a more aromatic note; the push to move bunny day up is getting no reception as expectdead, so it's unanimous(e)? a double ninetendough for the saycrud holycost again? doublegood for sure.

Surprise Surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563530)

Nindendblow fails again.

Irrelevant. 99 cent iPad games killed the 3DS (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563592)

Who wants to spend 40 bucks on a single game, when you can have the same game for 99 cents? There are so many games available for iOS for a small fraction of the cost that it makes the 3DS dead before it gets out the door.

Re:Irrelevant. 99 cent iPad games killed the 3DS (1)

Apocryphos (1222870) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564024)

People who want to play good, polished games? I admit; they aren't many.

not a bug its a feature! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35563770)

Now those pokemon addicted kids will be forced to get outside and play while the battery charges, its win/win!

Maybe it was an intentional design decision.... (2)

HuntingHades (2010088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35563840)

Besides keeping the cost and and size down by not fitting in a larger battery, this could also be a strategic choice to help reduce potential claims of eye strain/injury due to extended play sessions. They've already warned that children shouldn't really use the 3D feature on it, and even adults probably shouldn't use it more than a couple of hours at a time, as our eyes aren't really meant to look at "faked" 3D for extended periods of time.

I actually got a chance to try it out at Best Buy yesterday, and I have say the 3D was pretty good for the little demo I got to play (Pilotwings Resort), and the depth is easily adjustable with the slider on the side. The analog stick works well too. The only uncomfortable thing about using it was that Best Buy has it hard mounted to a stand about 36 inches off the ground and you're supposed to be 10-14 inches away from the screen for the 3D.

I can understand some complaints about the battery life for long flights or being stuck at the airport, but maybe users could try something else for a while, like reading?

Or play while charging... (2)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564208)

If you're near an outlet, perhaps the solution is to simply play while tethered to a charger?

Won't help on international flights in cattle class with no seat power, but the old long car ride just means a connection to the cigarette lighter (or 12V power point these days since fewer cars are coming with real lighters).

Then it's 2-4 hours while away from a convenient plug, which is probably adequate.

And heck, you know the third party accessories are going to address this issue in their own ways, too.

I mean it's no DSi, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35564292)

I don't really get any more play time out of my Nexus One. I just know to have chargers at places I am frequently.

Battery tech will improve over the next couple of years and they'll release a new version with a better battery eventually; this IS Nintendo we're talking about here.

F*cking Nintendo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35564386)

Guess you have to wait for Nintendo 3DSiXLite before they get it right.

Ugh, here we go again (2)

markass530 (870112) | more than 3 years ago | (#35564558)

I got caught up in the last couple Nintendo systems. I bought the first gameboy advance, with no backlighting, then the SP came out. I bought the Original DS, which was bulky as shit, then the Lite came out. Never again. I'll wait for the 3DS with better battery life.
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