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Stupid slashdot editors (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573026)

TFA said it looks like a b-movie photo not that it IS from a movie.

Its just an experimental UAV.

Re:Stupid slashdot editors (4, Informative)

Low Ranked Craig (1327799) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573744)

Follow up question (1, Insightful)

Low Ranked Craig (1327799) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573780)

Why are people from the Middle East so bad at Photoshop?

Re:Stupid slashdot editors (4, Insightful)

ladoga (931420) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573908)

I think they just used a stock photo of UFO to illustrate the article. It's not supposed to be any more real than the Bill Gates with Borg apparatus picture that the Slashdot uses ever so often.

The real one should probably look something like this: http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/PicView.aspx?Pic=Pic-1736235-1&Lang=E [www.isna.ir]

Re:Stupid slashdot editors (4, Interesting)

BLAG-blast (302533) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573878)

I notice other subtle attempts to discredit Iranian domestically produced equipment in the US/western press. When ever an "allied" power makes a press release or claim to have produced it's own version of something (a submarine, rocket, satellite, etc.), the press refers to it as "domestically produced". When Iran makes a press release or claim to have made the same thing, the press calls it "home made", which seems to imply it was name in somebodies garage at home (and it's comparable to things like the home made Chinese oil drum submarine).

Re:Stupid slashdot editors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35574170)

To be fair, the few times Iran has showcased its own domestically produced wares, they look like they'd be more at home with the rest of the Estes kits. In all honesty, I'd rather entrust the fine folks at Estes Rockets with homeland defense than whatever bozos Iran has been using.

Re:Stupid slashdot editors (0)

GooberToo (74388) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574476)

the press calls it "home made", which seems to imply it was name in somebodies garage at home (and it's comparable to things like the home made Chinese oil drum submarine).

I'm going to be blunt here, but this is not a troll. This is completely factually accurate. So please read the entire thing. Please do not go off and troll moderate because it offends political correctness.

Is the comparison unjust? Hate to tell you, but culturally, they do have many disadvantages to creating high quality products. For example, foreign subject matter experts can teach the subject but are almost always prohibited from grading or correcting serious failures in comprehension. This is singularly, the primary motivator for sending their kids off to Western schools because it effectively side-steps societal taboos. After all, the foreigner is a dirty, inferior, scumbag and the student doesn't really care because this is just one stepping stone in their path for societal advancement. The reality is, this plays a major reason why high quality goods are rarely, if ever, invented and manufactured in these countries. Socially, they are programmed for high quality failure. Countries like India frequent suffer a similar fate. Of course it doesn't help they are all too frequently xenophobic and hatefully intolerant.

Until these countries, with their inferior societal practices, comes to terms and openly admit they are not the superior beings of the world, as their cultures openly demand, they are doomed to failure, low quality goods, and garage creations.

Re:Stupid slashdot editors (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35574710)

Nice rant, but it was the FARS News Agency, which is owned and operated by the Iranian government, that referred to the aircraft as "home made" not the Western media.

Re:Stupid slashdot editors (1)

GooberToo (74388) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574784)

Nice rant,

Nice rant, but I was addressing the gp which had issue with the use of, "home made", rather than than the source of the original comment.

Re:Stupid slashdot editors (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35574830)

You're mentally retarded. If your local engineering school is any good it's grad program is probably swamped by Iranians who didn't get into Iran's tops schools. That's not because Iran has cultural disadvantages.

I think a likely candidate might be the craft they show about 4:40 into the following piece on Iranian robots(it seems the staff over their was already reffering to it as a ufo-type craft).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Y9CYTm7co

I thought their soccer playing robots were pretty impressive. No doubt better than what most Western universities could achieve.

Did I miss something? (5, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573030)

I actually read the articles (yes, I know it's a sin) and I didn't see any reference to the picture they released ACTUALLY coming from a movie. The headlines *joke* that it *looks* like something from a B-movie, but the summary seems to take that seriously.

The picture may be a mock-up, and the claimed craft may be a bunch of bullshit (with some of the crazy claims coming from Iran lately, who knows), but I don't see any news sources saying they actually stole the picture from a specific movie. I will say though, that, for a country completely devoid of homosexuals, they sure do have an unusual bent for the theatrical.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

Halifax Samuels (1124719) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573122)

There's no actual accusation of it being from a movie in either article. One commenter posted this [allvoices.com] which is dated a few months ago (picture, not the comment). It seems plausible that this photo could be a stock photo from something, but the article sure does a very poor job of reporting that.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573178)

Yeah, the image [tineye.com] shows up a LOT on the web - but no mention of a movie.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573234)

$10 says it's goatse

I'm sure as hell not clicking it.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573324)

If it's goatse, that just makes me want to click it even more.

Re:Did I miss something? (2)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573356)

Can you get goatse to show up on tineye? That would be a pretty good trick.

Re:Did I miss something? (4, Informative)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573294)

I just did exactly that search - it's used as the cover art on what appears to be a low budget straight-to-DVD documentary [amazon.com] from 2008, but I very much doubt that's the original.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

lwsimon (724555) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573898)

THANK YOU. A citation. None of the news stories I've found provided one - they preferred to just make the allegation and trust that I will believe them.

Re:Did I miss something? (2)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574128)

THANK YOU. A citation. None of the news stories I've found provided one - they preferred to just make the allegation and trust that I will believe them.

Um, just like Iran made a claim that they invented a flying saucer and trust that you will believe them?

Actual Picture (5, Informative)

prakslash (681585) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573182)

The news agency used a stock photo. The actual photo (clickable) is here [www.isna.ir] .

Re:Actual Picture (1)

radarsat1 (786772) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573230)

+5 Informative.

Damn, I haven't had mod points since the update.

Re:Actual Picture (1)

ildon (413912) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573280)

I haven't had mod points in like 3 years. :(

Re:Actual Picture (1)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573390)

I've been getting 15 almost every 3 days

Re:Actual Picture (1)

ildon (413912) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573586)

I used to get mod points about twice a month, back when you could only get 5 points. Then suddenly nothing. It's annoying that the system is so opaque. I suppose I should try making a new account and seeing if that one gets points.

Re:Actual Picture (0)

rwa2 (4391) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573860)

Do you metamoderate? I usually get my 5 or 15 shortly after doing so.

I don't really care about moderation, though, it's such a chore. And I usually browse at -1 anyway, so no one else's moderation really impacts me either.

Re:Actual Picture (3, Interesting)

SethThresher (1958152) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573872)

To save you the trouble, I can tell you that I haven't gotten any mod points yet. I registered just after the update, and my Karma's positive right now.

It's no big deal for me though at the moment, I don't feel like I've been here long enough to give it a proper job yet. I do have some friends that have started getting mod points like crazy though. Seriously, I know a guy who got mod four or five days in a row. He was tired of it by the end.

Re:Actual Picture (1)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574054)

So, 15 points was an introduction with the new system? I thought it was some weird type of bug.

Re:Actual Picture (1)

mooingyak (720677) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574042)

Didn't know they gave out 15. I've been getting 5 about twice a week. I usually don't use all of them (3 left right now).

Re:Actual Picture (1)

Tim C (15259) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573550)

I haven't had mod points in 7 or 8 years. No idea what my crime was, but I wasn't even able to meta-mod for a few years.

Maybe if I did now I'd get mod points again, but frankly I don't feel like it.

Re:Actual Picture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35574492)

Did you ever say anything bad about Obama? That would definately do it to you.

Re:Actual Picture (1)

Exitar (809068) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573854)

Me too. No points for weeks (months?).

Re:Actual Picture (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573376)

The actual photo is of a DraganFlyer X6 built by DraganFly in Saskatoon, Canada. I imagine the folks at DraganFly are busy answering questions this morning.

Re:Actual Picture (2)

WarlockSquire (212901) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573688)

including the actual photo being taken directly from their site:
http://www.draganfly.com/images/overview/DF-X6/Draganflyer-X6.jpg

Re:Actual Picture (2)

rwa2 (4391) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574052)

Good catch, but still doesn't look like the correct photo was used. The articles describe the Iranian device as a quad rotor... that stock picture of the DraganFlyer X6 has 6 rotors.

Anyway, here's a real picture of an Iranian UAV from last year: :P
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11052023 [bbc.co.uk]

Re:Actual Picture (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574528)

Are you sur e that isn't from a Steam Punk convention?

Re:Actual Picture (1)

WhiteDragon (4556) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574216)

The actual photo is of a DraganFlyer X6 built by DraganFly in Saskatoon, Canada. I imagine the folks at DraganFly are busy answering questions this morning.

As of 12:09 EDT, no mention of Zohal on the draganfly website.

Re:Actual Picture (1)

WhiteDragon (4556) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574890)

The actual photo is of a DraganFlyer X6 built by DraganFly in Saskatoon, Canada. I imagine the folks at DraganFly are busy answering questions this morning.

This article
http://nycaviation.com/2011/03/iran-shows-off-flying-saucer-uav-which-is-not-round-looks-nothing-like-a-saucer/ [nycaviation.com]
  claims the drone will be made by Dorna Aerospace Company [hfdorna.com]

Re:Actual Picture (1)

Rick Richardson (87058) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573590)

"Damn, I haven't had mod points since the update."

Ditto!!!

Re:Actual Picture (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573852)

I had mod points recently, but it was the first time post Slashdot update. By design, I'm guessing they're given out more sparsely.

Re:Actual Picture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573912)

Funny, I never seem to get any either. I wonder why...?

Re:Actual Picture (1)

Byzantine (85549) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573268)

Well, that's boring. And that picture doesn't look like a saucer at all!

Re:Actual Picture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573288)

That link currently shows what looks like an actual UAV that Iran might actually build.

Placeholder art?

Re:Actual Picture (2)

Ogive17 (691899) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573442)

It looks like they strapped a couple blades to a charcoal grill.

I guess the definition of a 'flying saucer' has been watered down a bit...

Re:Actual Picture (3, Insightful)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573746)

It looks like they strapped a couple blades to a charcoal grill.

I'm wondering if this isn't a translation error - the real reference calls is a "cuadrotour" - not speaking whatever language it's supposed to be in (? Farsi) it's hard to interpret but it sure looks like "quad rotor" which is a much better description of the picture than 'flying saucer'.

Re:Actual Picture (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573506)

Any idea if that was the original image used, or if they changed it after people started laughing at them? The whole 'flying saucer' thing in the text seems like an odd way to put things if they were just talking about a normal drone.

Re:Actual Picture (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573642)

That's a UK police drone reported by BBC years ago: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/6676809.stm

Re:Actual Picture (1)

SargentDU (1161355) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573772)

The actual picture looks nothing like a flying saucer. It looks like a helicopter body with two struts with engine pods for the rotors. So why is it called a "flying saucer?"

Re:Actual Picture (2)

vectra14 (470008) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573818)

I'm pretty sure that picture is of a draganflyer X6 [draganfly.com] .

Not impossible they've installed custom additions (custom autopilot, radio links, etc)

Perhaps the "flying saucer" is a mis-translation on FARS' part..

Re:Actual Picture (2)

brs336 (903049) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573894)

That picture is of a commercially available UAV. http://www.draganfly.com/images/overview/DF-X6/Draganflyer-X6.jpg [draganfly.com]

Re:Actual Picture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35574076)

They lifted the picture directly from the Draganflyer X6 Overview web page. http://www.draganfly.com/uav-helicopter/draganflyer-x6/

Re:Actual Picture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573954)

That "Flying Saucer" sure looks like a helicopter variant!

Re:Actual Picture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573972)

And how, exactly, can it be described as a flying "saucer"?

Re:Actual Picture (4, Funny)

headhot (137860) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574000)

Oh no! The Iranians have discovered RC helicopter technology!

Re:Actual Picture (1)

Syberz (1170343) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574384)

What the deuce?

Not only does it look nothing like at B-Movie spacecraft, but it's not even a saucer! It's a freaking remote controlled helicopter!

Is FARS the Fox News equivalent in Iran?

Re:Actual Picture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35574660)

That may be the photo, but ISNA uses stock photo as well all the time. I think a likely candidate might be the craft they show about 4:40 into the following piece on Iranian robots(it seems the staff over their was already reffering to it as a ufo-type craft).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Y9CYTm7co

I thought their soccer playing robots were pretty impressive.

Re:Did I miss something? (2)

Nikker (749551) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573534)

I found it humorous that an interstellar space craft is equipped with GPS though.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

f8l_0e (775982) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574048)

I know if I was traveling through space, I would want a Galatic Positioning System.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

Onuma (947856) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573928)

Devoid of "open" homosexuality. The middle east has plenty of gays, they just hide behind their culture and keep it on the low...else they may be flogged/honor killed/imprisoned.

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

georgesdev (1987622) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574184)

one thing's for sure, it's too early for April Fool ;)

Re:Did I miss something? (1)

Ohrion (814105) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574272)

It comes pretty much straight off the cover of "Invasion: UFO Encounters and Alien Beings".

/. News Network (3, Funny)

Even on Slashdot FOE (1870208) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573062)

Our contributors never sully themselves with reading the article they are writing about, news at 11.

Movie?! (0)

ickleberry (864871) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573074)

You mean Film right?

To be fair... (1)

Grapplebeam (1892878) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573078)

Had they actually completed such a task, they'd be able to gain the allegiance of a few American cities, wholesale.

Iran used to be called Persia... (4, Funny)

jenningsthecat (1525947) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573116)

...so can we consider this an update of a 'flying carpet'?

Re:Iran used to be called Persia... (1)

dominious (1077089) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574092)

...so can we consider this an update of a 'flying carpet'?

holy crap! it just struck me that the so called flying carpet was some advanced alien technology and that the conspiracy theorists are right about alien contact in ancient times!

Re:Iran used to be called Persia... (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574872)

It's a case of recycling. Take a roomba, use it to clean up an old persion carpet that your pet has ravaged, and you end up with this. There should be a warning sticker on them about this problem.

media 'wars' are more & more of less & les (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573138)

focusing on the images, as instructed, helps? who/what is the problem? smells BAD, like the same old fear/hate generation(al) machine has been turned up yet again? babys rule. that's inescapably perfect math.

none of the sides offers any truth whatsoever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573334)

has to do with the weather again (fog of war)? so, the modified 'facts', just keep billowing (exploding is another term) into more & more fear & hatred, so that works?

end of parent; less & less LIFE

alien crew also from a movie (1)

k6mfw (1182893) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573140)

You can tell the space aliens portrayed are also from a movie because they all speak English.

aliens? (2)

EonsWrath (1888134) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573162)

Does this mean we are going to be abducted by iranians tractor beams? The thought scares me. I like my cows... If they have flying saucer technology, then they *should* have tractor beam technology right? (beam me up, scotty)

Re:aliens? (1)

Sonny Yatsen (603655) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573206)

Well, in Islam, animals must be slaughtered according to halal standards, which requires the animal to be drained of blood through the carotid and jugular (similar to kosher laws).

I think this explains all the dead cows drained of blood we saw on the X-Files.

Re:aliens? (1)

angel'o'sphere (80593) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573384)

According to christian laws it is the same! We only allow the animal (or force it by law) to hit unconscious before it is slaughtered.
angel'o'sphere

Re:aliens? (1)

gtall (79522) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573660)

The problem with tractor beams is when they are used from too great a distance. They have a tendency to merely pull up the skirts of women revealing...gasp...ankles. No self-respecting Ayatollah would want to see them.

Old news? (0)

pablo_max (626328) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573180)

I recall reading this more than week ago on Engadget.

Re:Old news? (3, Funny)

Byzantine (85549) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573220)

Welcome to Slashdot. You must be new here.

Re:Old news? (3, Funny)

Sonny Yatsen (603655) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573262)

Unlike the news.

British Rail Flyting Saucer ripoff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573218)

I bet they just copied this old British Rail design:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_flying_saucer

Greetings Earthlings (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573228)

"We come in peace.....except for the jews."

Re:Greetings Earthlings (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573682)

Jews in Space [youtube.com]

Richard Dreyfuss (2)

DnemoniX (31461) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573238)

Well the blog author makes a tongue-in-cheek shout out to Richard Dreyfuss, so I'm pretty sure he is making a reference to Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The picture is not from that movie. It certainly appears to be from something crappy, perhaps just the now legendary Iranian Photoshop Labs.

Not Surprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573286)

In Iran, we call them False News for a good reason!

Imitation is the highest form of flattery (2)

cypherwise (650128) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573318)

Nice to see FARS News is taking some cues from the highest form of American journalism. I always knew that deep down they were jealous and wanted to be just like us. Kudos to you FARS News!

In related news.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573428)

In related news the man never went to moon back at 69' -- turns out the show was performed on earth.

another article (3, Informative)

WhiteDragon (4556) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573538)

Re:another article (1)

WarlockSquire (212901) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573832)

actual picture is from a commercial product:
http://www.draganfly.com/images/overview/DF-X6/Draganflyer-X6.jpg

Re:another article with a worse pic (1)

aoeu (532208) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574002)

Zohal (from the Arabic for "Saturn") is a quadrotor device which was designed and developed jointly by Farnas Aerospace Company and Iranian Aviation and Space Industries Association (IASIA).

and a pic of an aircraft with six rotors.

Re:another article (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574086)

That thing looks like something out Terminator.

They misspelled it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573582)

it should be FARCE news agency.

It's unmanned (1)

omidaladini (940882) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573638)

They claim it's an "unmanned" vehicle carrying a GPS and a camera. So it can be small in size and you don't need rocket science to make that. It could even be a flying saucer toy equipped with GPS, camera and fancy cover.

Re:It's unmanned (1)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573882)

Is it really wise for them to use GPS?

You know... the service provided and controlled by the US military?

Never mind, nothing to see here, move along.

Which is more funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35573670)

1. Slashdot posting an article about how Iran built a "flying saucer" and used a B-movie image as proof.
2. Iran actually building a UAV, slashdot contributors and editors not reading the article carefully, Iran unintentionally making slashdot look bad.

My vote is on 1.

not Richard Dreyfus, Godzilla (1)

rjejr (921275) | more than 3 years ago | (#35573916)

That may come from a movie (or not), but more "DAM" or "Monster Zero" judging from the background trees.

bullshit (2)

davFr (679391) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574068)

slashdot is getting like Ding mixed with Fox News.

Don't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35574102)

Mess with the Zohal

What about Sammy Hagar (0)

snspdaarf (1314399) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574438)

Does this mean Sammy was (shudder) probed by Iranians?

laughable! But (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35574460)

... All things start small. It won't be long before they have a full scale saucer like craft loaded with weapons. That won't be anything to sneeze on.

This smells of propoganda. (3, Informative)

CherniyVolk (513591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574724)

Iran has scientists and engineers. They can build nuclear power plants, and other advanced technologies. The US would have you believe they are trying to build a nuclear bomb. Iran engineers and manufactures their own long range missiles, so they have the proverbial "rocket scientists" and apparently "competent" ones too.

What's the point of all this?

If you think, Iran, or any other country is unable to design and make their own "UAV", you have GOT to be drinking some serious kool-aid. They aren't stupid and they aren't dumb. Whoever from Iran reporting this story probably isn't allowed access to real photos, so they grab something from their little scrapbook and publish the story. Here in the US, we are so stupid to think that Iran scientists and government have nothing better to do than sit around a table and come up with stories to tell the world; for no purpose or goal at all?

Stop acting retarded people. You want stupid stuff printed in American stories, look at Popular Mechanics. "Oh, but those are artists renditions..." what's the difference!?

Robot Sentry (1)

rlp (11898) | more than 3 years ago | (#35574972)

A a killer robot sentry [wikimedia.org] .

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