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226 comments

Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (5, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577676)

Seems like a nice enough guy, but man is that show painful to watch. I don't toss around the word "himbo" outside of a tanning salon very often, but it's pretty bad when Valerie Bertinelli has to talk down to you.

I guess at least his infamous ego seems to have ebbed a bit in his advanced years. But he still can't appreciate why Walter Koenig and others hated him in the Star Trek days. In his appearance on the show, Koenig looked like it was all he could do to keep from grabbing him and yelling "YOU STOLE ALL OUR LINES, MOTHERFUCKER!" It probably didn't help that Shatner kept saying stuff like "I'm sorry that you *perceived* me as being selfish or hostile to you back then."

Still, got to give the guy props for a great performance in Star Trek 2. I always wondered how Nicholas Meyer got it out of him. On the DVD commentary track I finally learned how he did it. He would do so about 10 throwaway takes. After about 10 takes, Shanter would get tired and stop trying to be Shatner (i.e. the pompous hero) and he would start to play around with the lines and actually act. Shatner didn't realize what a favor Meyer was doing to him at the time.
 

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (2)

rainmouse (1784278) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577892)

Happy Birthday William. For your 80th birthday we have heavily Photoshopped this picture of you.

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (1)

Aighearach (97333) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577970)

For his birthday party, we're going to play his rendition of Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds on repeat.

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (1)

NJRoadfan (1254248) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578220)

Lucy in the sky... with DIAMONDS!

How about some Rocket Man while we are at it? What, you can't get behind that, can you?

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (1)

JoelWink (1846354) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578856)

And don't forget his psychotic atonal pleadings: "Mr. tambourine man? MR. TAMBOURINE MAN??!!!!!"

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (4, Funny)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578196)

Still, got to give the guy props for a great performance in Star Trek 2.

As Futurama put it:

Leonard Nimoy: Melllvar, you have to respect your actors. When I directed Star Trek IV, I got a magnificent performance out of Bill because I respected him so much.
William Shatner: And when I directed Star Trek V, I got a magnificent performance out of me, because I respected me so much!

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (1)

gewalker (57809) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578484)

"Jim, I'm your doctor and I'm your friend. Get back your command. Get it back before you turn into part of this collection. Before you really do grow old."
- McCoy, to Kirk in Star Trek 2

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (1)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578202)

Actually, I just caught Raw Nerve for the first time a few days ago, and really enjoyed it. That goofy chair has got to go, though.

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (1)

spun (1352) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578240)

We will forever be indebted to Shatner for raising the theatrical craft known as "chewing the scenery" to new heights. To celebrate, we should all eat ham tonight.

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578302)

Even Cybil Sheppard never quite matched his uncanny skill at pushing other actors out of the way to remain in the foreground.

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578250)

I guess at least his infamous ego seems to have ebbed a bit in his advanced years. But he still can't appreciate why Walter Koenig and others hated him in the Star Trek days. In his appearance on the show, Koenig looked like it was all he could do to keep from grabbing him and yelling "YOU STOLE ALL OUR LINES, MOTHERFUCKER!" It probably didn't help that Shatner kept saying stuff like "I'm sorry that you *perceived* me as being selfish or hostile to you back then."

I've heard this said a lot, and I want to agree with it, but honestly, who is the bigger douche: the person who (badly) rationalizes his behavior decades ago, or the person who is still offended over it ~30 years later? It's just so vain either way you spin it.

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578328)

In Koenig's defense, he was actually remarkably relaxed about it. He didn't choke or punch Shatner even once.

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (4, Funny)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578286)

"I'm sorry that you *perceived* me as being selfish or hostile to you back then."

I read that as "I'm... SORRY... that... you... PERCEIVED... me? as... BEING... selfish... or... hostile? to... YOU... back then."

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (0)

nowen2dot (1768088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578334)

It probably didn't help that Shatner kept saying stuff like "I'm... sorry... that you.... *perceived*... me......... as being selfish........... or hostile.... to you..... back... then."

FTFY :)

Nicholas Meyer (1)

Dadoo (899435) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578592)

Nicholas Meyer

Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but since you mentioned him, I have to ask: does anyone remember that show with him and Tom Davis, called "Trailer Park"? Davis would show trailers from various science fiction movies and talk about them, afterwards. At the end of the show, Meyer would always do a deep, philosophical commentary about one of the films.

The show didn't last long, but I still miss it.

Re:Live Long and Please End Raw Nerve (1)

Fibe-Piper (1879824) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578744)

Raw Nerve is hard to watch. But we watched it because of Shatner!

He is an institution to himself and can play that up until the day he dies for all I care. And so he can be forgiven for his many foibles - nay I say they are the bulk of why we love him. Can you say TJ Hooker and not smile? CAN YOU???

Live Long and Prosper! (4, Insightful)

grapeape (137008) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577734)

Looks like he's doing well on both the living long and the prospering parts...hope there are many years to go. Anyone else think that Raw Nerve is the best thing Shatner has ever done? I love Captain Kirk and Denny Crane but raw nerve is a damn entertaining format, rarely do you see an interview type show where by the end of it you feel like you actually got to know the person a little bit...Raw Nerve does that just about every time, its more like listening in on a conversation at another table more than watching an interview and I really appreciate that.

Prospering, indeed! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578214)

Here he finally admits what business he had with the mountain in Star Trek V:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2ftCitvyQ [youtube.com]

Re:Live Long and Prosper! (1)

iRommel (1684036) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578534)

"I have an erection. That's a good sign. I'm ready to go to trial. Lock and load." legend

The Final Frontier (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35577742)

To moldily go where no octogenarian has gone before

The Really Last Voyage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35577960)

That's funny I was just watching this last week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVuxvJVdZQc

Jim Carrey is hilarious. "We just left the Romulan galaxy and are approaching... ... ... senility."

Damnit Jim, I'm a doctor not a magician! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35577750)

...you're soon to kick the bucket mate.

Re:Damnit Jim, I'm a doctor not a magician! (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577802)

DeForest Kelly. Now *there* was the Star Trek actor who made the show. Great actor playing a great character.

damn, that's old (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35577758)

Live longer and prosper some more.

May he find... (2)

novar21 (1694492) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577766)

a nice blue lady to dance with tonight. And smile into the morning hours.

Re:May he find... (1)

winkydink (650484) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578042)

Let's hope he finds a nice blue pill then too. The guy is 80 after all.

Re:May he find... (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578166)

That remains to be seen...

I wonder if Hugh Hefner needs those blue pills...

Re:May he find... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578384)

Blind items at the gossip sites my wife reads indicate that Heff can't really get it up even with the little blue helper, and now resorts to endlessly jacking it while watching paid performers screw for his pleasure. Damn it, I hope that by the time I can't get it up anymore, I can let go of sex with some dignity, and not be the wrinkled prune pulling his pud in the corner, watching younger and more attractive people having the fun I can't have anymore.

Re:May he find... (1, Funny)

Homr Zodyssey (905161) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578718)

at the gossip sites my wife reads

Yeah. Right. Your WIFE was reading them....

Shatner's 9th decade? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35577780)

Mr. Shatner won't start his ninth decade until his 81st birthday.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577840)

As soon as he's over 80.0000 years old, even if by a second, he's in his 9th decade.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (2, Insightful)

SteveMurphy (890510) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577972)

As soon as he's over 80.0000 years old, even if by a second, he's in his 9th decade.

Not to belabor the point, but he actually was "in his 9th decade" the second after he turned 79 years old, for the same reason that you are "in your first year" a second after you are born.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

anyaristow (1448609) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578174)

No.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578330)

Not to belabor the point, but he actually was "in his 9th decade" the second after he turned 79 years old, for the same reason that you are "in your first year" a second after you are born.

Try again: 1st decade = 0 - 9.99999... years old.
Add 8 decades and 80 years.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (3, Funny)

SteveMurphy (890510) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578612)

When he was 1 second old he was in his first year and his first decade. Exactly 10 years later he was nine years old and in his second decade. 70 years after that he was: 1.) 79 years old. 2.) in his 80th year 3.) In his 9th decade. It has to be so because he had been alive 8 decades and one second.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (5, Informative)

Kjella (173770) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578772)

When he was 1 second old he was in his first year and his first decade. Exactly 10 years later he was nine years old and in his second decade.

One year later he is one year and one second old.
Two years later he is two years and one second old.
Three years later he is three years and one second old.
Four years later he is four years and one second old.
Five years later he is five years and one second old.
Six years later he is six years and one second old.
Seven years later he is seven years and one second old.
Eight years later he is eight years and one second old.
Nine years later he is nine years and one second old.
Ten years later he is ten years and one second old.

How does it feel to flunk first grade math?

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (3, Informative)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578352)

No, he was not "in his ninth decade", until the moment after he turned 80. You are "in your first year" the moment after you are born. That lasts until one year later, when you turn one year old. You are, also, "in your first decade" the moment after you are born. That lasts for ten years, until you turn 10 years old, at which point you enter your second decade.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

SteveMurphy (890510) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578456)

To further belabor the point: A second after his birth, he was in his first year. 10 years later he was simultaneously: 1. Nine years old. 2. In his 10th year 3. In his 2nd decade.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

enderjsv (1128541) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578540)

Wrong on point 1. Ten years after you are born, you are ten years old. Not sure why you're getting so confused.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578616)

As someone else pointed out, you turn nine years old exactly nine years after you are born when you enter your tenth year. You do not enter your second decade until you enter your eleventh year.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

HaZardman27 (1521119) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578812)

Where did you learn to count? I need to make sure my children never go to school there.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

enderjsv (1128541) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578422)

Not quite. True, you're in you're first year the second you're born, but you're also in your first decade. You're not in your second decade until ten years later, which would be 10 years 1 second. So for your ninth decade, it'd be 80 years 1 second. Not 79. It's easy to see if you just consider that you're still in your first decade when you're nine years old.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578472)

And here we have another one who celebrated the new century a year early due to poor math skills, and proud of it.

According to your math, his first decade was only 9 years long.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (2)

bjorniac (836863) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577880)

Nope, you're born aged 0 and that's when you start your first decade. After 10 years (1 decade) you are 10 years old and starting your second decade. Etc.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577914)

You have to count from zero. A person's first decade starts at year zero (0), the tenth and final year of their first decade is year nine (9). This means the second decade would start at year 10 (0 + 10), not year 11 (1 + 10)..

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577916)

Mr. Shatner won't start his ninth decade until his 81st birthday.

Yeah!! Double dumb ass on you!!

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577924)

Normally I would point out that babies aren't born being 1 year old. But in Shatner's case, I'm not so sure.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (3, Funny)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578506)

Well, there was this slingshot maneuver around the sun, but it involved whales, so we don't like to talk about it.

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578086)

Really? So, when you're born you're in your zeroth decade?

Re:Shatner's 9th decade? (1)

mfnickster (182520) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578470)

"Don't tell me how to count my years. It sickens me."

4 Days til Spock turns 80 too.. (1)

Earl The Squirrel (463078) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577786)

Wonder who looks older... surprisingly their birthdays are only 4 days apart...

Re:4 Days til Spock turns 80 too.. (1)

grapeape (137008) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578000)

Nimoy has not aged well at all...well I mean i guess he has aged alright for 80 but he started looking 80 twenty years ago. Shatner I gotta say looks pretty damn good for his age. Now the one who seems to have really been blessed with youth genes are Nichelle Nichols and George Takei. She is still beautiful and he looks like he could easiy pass for 50.

Re:4 Days til Spock turns 80 too.. (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578168)

Mr.Nimoy has done fine considering the alternative.

Re:4 Days til Spock turns 80 too.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578350)

Plastic surgery is a wonderful thing.

nails all chewed off, still gaining weight? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35577804)

so, we'll then expect to see you at any one of the million babys+
play-dates, conscience arisings, georgia stone editing(s), & a host of
other life promoting/loving events. guaranteed to activate all of our
sense(s) at once. perhaps you have seen our list of pure intentions for
you /us, beginning with disarmament? tell 'em capt.,

Happy birthday, Bill. (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577812)

I can get behind that.

Shatner's birthday? (3, Funny)

Weirsbaski (585954) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577814)

If it's only William Shatner's birthday, then why do I suddenly feel so old?

Happy Birthday to Shatner (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35577820)

I have to disagree with the final link, though. Kirk is either dead [wikipedia.org] or 22ish [wikipedia.org] . Pedantry FTW!

Re:Happy Birthday to Shatner (2)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577954)

I'd say neither: both movies are so bad, I just pretend neither existed.

That's not old. (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577836)

Doesn't he live to like 143 or something?

Re:That's not old. (1)

grapeape (137008) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578342)

That depends on which side of the nexus you are in.

Honored... (1)

mykey2k (42851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577930)

...to share a birthday with Mr Shatner.

Happy Birthday, Bill.

-m

Re:Honored... (1)

BJ_Covert_Action (1499847) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578114)

Happy Birthday, mykey2k!

Re:Honored... (1)

Pieroxy (222434) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578788)

Happy Birthday, mykey2k!

Ok. Are we done now? I've got errands to run.

As captain Kirk would say it. (1, Redundant)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 3 years ago | (#35577956)

Happy Birthday.... to... you.
Happy Birthday.... to... you.
Happy Birthday... William.... Shatnerhappy.... Birthday... to you.

OK, so I can't imitate his speaking style.

Re:As captain Kirk would say it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578536)

He wouldn't blatantly infringe on Warner Music Group's copyrights [wikipedia.org] like that! He'd have to continue living until January 1st, 2031 (in the US) until he can publicly perform that song for free.

Obligatory (1)

SethThresher (1958152) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578058)

He's old, Jim.

Obligatory... (5, Funny)

dvh.tosomja (1235032) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578106)

May the force be with you!

Re:Obligatory... (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578554)

If it weren't for the Alzheimer's, he'd probably be pretty pissed at you right now.

Happy Birthday but Please Keep Your Shirt On! Thx (1)

itsybitsy (149808) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578108)

Please Bill what ever you do today DON'T under any circumstances loose your shirt in public! Thanks, otherwise, have a happy 80th!

OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (5, Interesting)

ScientiaPotentiaEst (1635927) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578162)

Why is it every time there's an article posted in connection with some soap opera in space, so many /. denizens are all over it with 100's of posts. Yet whenever there's an article on the real thing (space probes, man in space, deep space observation, etc.), either there are only a few tens of posts (many frivolous), and/or there's actual opposition (waste of money, rich bastards in space, etc.).

Fun and entertaining as he is (and indeed, happy birthday to the man), Shatner is an actor. Neil Armstrong, Wernher von Braun, Burt Rutan, Carl Sagan are/were the real deal - scientists, engineers, astronauts.

Of course, I might be jumping the gun. Perhaps this article will garner few posts.

Why is my karma going up in smoke? :-)

Re:OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578284)

fuck you

Re:OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (1)

ScientiaPotentiaEst (1635927) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578362)

Interesting. It appears to be akin to a religious issue for you (assuming you are really that upset with me).

Re:OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578414)

I think it's because space operas require no real intelligence out of the comic book crowd and science hurts their little heads. Just my opinion.

Re:OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (1)

ScientiaPotentiaEst (1635927) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578466)

Good thing you posted as an AC. If the initial response to my post is any measure, your "blasphemy" would result in crucifixion. :-)

Re:OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578550)

How about inspiration... of some sorts...

Re:OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (1)

ScientiaPotentiaEst (1635927) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578692)

Aren't Yuri Gagarin and Neil Armstrong more inspiring? To bring it even closer to this crowd, how about John Carmack? He's working his way up from first principles - developing real hardware. It surprises me that the technical people ostensibly filling this discussion site are apparently more interested in wildly inaccurate space opera.

Re:OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578564)

Of course, I might be jumping the gun. Perhaps this article will garner few posts.

I think he jumped the shark, (*** er... whale **).

Re:OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578570)

You forgot Buzz Aldrin you insensitive clod! And Michael Collins.

Re:OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578594)

Not sure what alternate universe /. you're reading. But on the one I'm reading, I would say the ratio of real science and tech articles to pop culture articles is at least 5 to 1.

Re:OK, maybe I'm a bit grumpy today. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578760)

Not when it comes to space and astronomy. Those comment threads are usually a lot thinner than threads on Star Wars/Trek.

I wish we could just stage a battle. (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578660)

ST fans vs SW fans. To the death.

80 and still getting green chicks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578164)

Go Bill!

Favorite Kirk Quote (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578176)

"Kif, I have made it with a woman. Inform the men."

At least I think that was Kirk, it all kind of blurs together...

Re:Favorite Kirk Quote (1)

truthsearch (249536) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578696)

"Captain's journal. Stardate: uhhh... April 13... point two."

The Final Frontier: 80 And Beyond! (1)

ebillcoyne (1764036) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578182)

80!? I can't believe it. He doesn't look a day beyond 79.

That's not possible (3, Insightful)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578226)

William Shatner can't be 80 - that would mean I'm no longer young.

Re:That's not possible (2)

Pieroxy (222434) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578804)

William Shatner can't be 80 - that would mean I'm no longer young.

You're not alone. Ane you're no longer young.

Why is he climbing that mountain? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578234)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2ftCitvyQ

Little known fact (4, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578306)

Also, his toupee turns 50 next Friday.

Wait... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578326)

Best known for portraying Captain James T. Kirk, William Shatner...

Oh, you mean the Priceline guy?

Posting as AC for obvious geek cred reasons.

Android Cloning (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578358)

Bet he's not so pleased with himself now that he stopped himself from being cloned as an Android in that one episode!

Has Been (1)

srussia (884021) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578394)

Has Been [amazon.com] is history
Has been was
Has been might again


Live long and prosper Bill!

Re:Has Been (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578632)

oh god! I read the write up on Has Been from the parent. out of a morbid curiosity and since Hollywood can't seem to make original movies, I went to IMDB to see if they was a big screen remake of TJ Hooker. sure enough: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1468874/ -sigh-

Let's not forget Denny Crane! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35578468)

"I have an erection. That's a good sign. I'm ready to go to trial. Lock and load."

salutations!

Let Me Be The First To Say... (1)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578516)

Denny Crane!

Re:Let Me Be The First To Say... (2)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578568)

That's nothing, we're all doing a great job of forgetting TJ Hooker.

GZ (1)

Ricken (797341) | more than 3 years ago | (#35578762)

Congrats Kirk and congrats me! XD
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