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Microsoft Buys 666,000 IP Addresses

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the number-of-a-thousand-beasts dept.

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RabidMonkey writes "Microsoft has managed to purchase 666,624 IP addresses from the bankrupt Canadian company Nortel for $7.5 million. This works out to $11.25/ip. An exact list of blocks isn't available yet. There has been a lot of discussion on NANOG about whether this allowed or not, and what the implications to the dwindling IPv4 pool may be. Is this the first of many such moves as IPv4 address space has run out? Will ARIN step in and block the sale/transfer? How long will such measures drag out the eventual necessity of IPv6?"

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They are... (3, Funny)

hotfireball (948064) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605064)

Fucking Devils...

Re:They are... (2)

ocdscouter (1922930) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605282)

That has to burn a little.

Re:They are... (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605438)

Fucking Devils...

But they bought them for the cloud, so shouldn't they be screwing the angels instead of the locals?

Re:They are... (1)

twebb72 (903169) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605962)

Fucking Smart Ass Investors...

It being Microsoft... (5, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605076)

... I'll bet they're all in the 169.* block.

Re:It being Microsoft... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605216)

Rumors are they are in 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x, and 172.16.x.x blocks, and probably a few in 127.x.x.x block too.

Re:It being Microsoft... (4, Informative)

Megor1 (621918) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605428)

Jokes on you, most IPs under 169.* are routable on the internet, only 169.254.* is not.

Re:It being Microsoft... (1)

c0manche (1540865) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605922)

... I'll bet they're all in the 169.* block.

As far as I recall from when I worked in Nortels R&D Organisation Nortel had the whole of the 16.x.x.x A class network so I bet this 600 thousand or so are from that block

Re:It being Microsoft... (5, Informative)

c0manche (1540865) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605988)

... I'll bet they're all in the 169.* block.

Nortel Aquried the 47.x.x.x. class A network from Bell Northern Research when they took them over in the late 90's so chances these are from this block

Sign of the... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605090)

The devil you say?

gay (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605092)

n/t

I'll sell them 16,777,216 addresses... (1)

by (1706743) (1706744) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605104)

And I'll even drop the price down to $10/address.

Muah ha ha ha ha... [wikipedia.org]

666K addresses (4, Funny)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605106)

I always knew Microsoft was Evil. :)

Re:666K addresses (5, Funny)

ocdscouter (1922930) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605304)

And 666K should be enough for anyone!

Re:666K addresses (3, Funny)

pixelpusher220 (529617) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605534)

I disagree, 640K is apparently *not* enough anymore.

Re:666K addresses (1)

El_Muerte_TDS (592157) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605588)

666K should to be enough for everybody

You got modded "Insightful" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605638)

But when are we going to get away from this Microsoft is "evil"? Are they any more "evil" tan any other corporation? I mean compared to Bank of America, Microsoft is a goddamn fucking Saint!

You're telling me that someone who got screwed by Microsoft (got 5million instead of 10 million) is the same as some poor sum bitch who got thrown out of his home?!?!

All offense intended - you Microsoft haters need to get a fucking life.

Microsoft is chump change compared to the evils of this World.

Re:You got modded "Insightful" (1)

number11 (129686) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605734)

But when are we going to get away from this Microsoft is "evil"? Are they any more "evil" tan any other corporation?

They're all evil. What's your point?

Re:You got modded "Insightful" (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605866)

Here's my point if I can get past Slashdot's blocks...

There are MORE important "evils" than a goddamn software company.

People are being thrown out of their homes for NO REASON other then a clerical error or because they were suckered by the American Dream of getting rich - in real estate in this case.

Micrsoft is smal potatoes by today's standards.

Actually they wre always small potatoes but some dorks made their software the center of their lives. Good Grief! Get a fuckign grip! MS can have a 100% monopoly on software and it'll only affect 1% of my life ... BFD!

Re:You got modded "Insightful" (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35606120)

fucking WHOOSH!

you think maybe everyone in this thread is punning on the MS is evil thing on account of the 666K addresses they just bought?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/666_(number) [wikipedia.org]

Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DNS? (2)

fantomas (94850) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605110)

Does this mean that companies will start selling IP addresses for increasing amounts of money? should I buy a block of 100 as an investment now? A bit like buying up domain names?

Re:Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DN (3, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605306)

Does this mean that companies will start selling IP addresses for increasing amounts of money? should I buy a block of 100 as an investment now? A bit like buying up domain names?

Not bloody likely. Most likely Microsoft will dump what they don't need. With IPv6 around the corner it's like buying 666,000 ice cream cones on a hot Summer day - better use them up before they are no use anymore.

Re:Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DN (4, Funny)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605602)

Yes, adoption of IPv6 is coming along VERY smoothly; large corporations are being EXTREMELY cooperative about converting to the new standard, thereby ensuring that we will NOT abruptly run out of internet addresses -- in keeping with their usual policy of extreme foresightedness.

*rolls eyes, jerk-off gesture*

Re:Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DN (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35606198)

they're hoping for the GP's scenario - they're speculating on the increasing value of remaining IPv4 addresses.

soon the bubble will burst, there'll be a sub-prime IP mortgage bust and people will be kicked out of their IP addresses if they can't make the payments.

Re:Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DN (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605372)

Yes, for the following reasons.

1. There's money to be made of a scarce resource.
2. It cost money to upgrade equipment and implement IPv6.
3. Because of #2, it no longer makes #1 reliant, and thus will not drive a higher profit margin.
4. They'll double NAT home user accounts to free up IPv4, and charge extra for a real public IP.
5. Implementing #4 causes havoc with P2P and other server-side applications. They want to download anyways, not upload.

In order for IPv6 to be rolled out, I fear the FCC will need to get involved (as with HDTV). And that's just for the US.

Re:Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DN (4, Insightful)

xiando (770382) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605542)

In order for IPv6 to be rolled out, I fear the FCC will need to get involved (as with HDTV). And that's just for the US.

I have no doubt the US will be among the last countries to get widespread IPv6 adoptation. Most major Swedish ISPs (Telia, etc) say they will start giving everyone both IPv4 and IPv6 in 2013, and drop IPv4 by 2015. They may delay, the IPv4 drop will depend on how the rest of the world are doing, but still: There will be no local market for IPv4 by 2014. Maby you can still sell address space to poor people like those in the US, who knows, all I'm saying is that the local market, and probably the whole EU market, for IPv4 will be dead soon.

Re:Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DN (2)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 3 years ago | (#35606028)

Why would the ISPs care about playing havoc? NATing will break P2P (Which competes with the ISPs own television service), Video on demand (Same), VoIP (Which competes with the ISPs phone service)... they can screw over any potential competition, and in a completly deniable way.

Re:Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DN (3, Funny)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35606232)

i need to see proof! i'm not investing my money in a more expensive "renewable" IPv6 pipe dream!

i doubt that we're even running out of IPv4 addresses. the world doesn't work like that, and i'd be damned if i'm going to give up my net-enabled gadget way of life in the name of your flawed science!

IPv4 depletion is a MYTH perpetrated by left-wing pinkos trying to cripple the free market and personal freedoms.

Re:Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DN (2)

InlawBiker (1124825) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605574)

Fuck yeah, I'm going to park on this Comcast DHCP assigned address for the next 10 years then sell if for a fortune!

Re:Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DN (4, Informative)

Ron Atkinson (546834) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605748)

Sales of IP addresses have been common place since about the late 90's or so. I had a class C block for 15 years and had offers many times, but I turned my block into ARIN about 1.5 years ago (yes, it was assigned to me for personal use before the Internet was commercialized, they used to do this). Microsoft has done nothing different from what many other companies have been doing for years. I bet Google has bought IP addresses from companies and individuals. This story only exists because it's "Microsoft".

Re:Does this mean IPv4 addresses will sell like DN (1)

mrogers (85392) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605996)

Does this mean that companies will start selling IP addresses for increasing amounts of money?

I hope so - nothing's going to spur IPv6 adoption like having a dollar cost per IPv4 address that you can show to your boss.

should I buy a block of 100 as an investment now?

If you can get away with it, fuck yes! At this stage in the game it's probably only lawyer-plated companies like Microsoft that can force this past IANA, but once the market opens up, jump in.

Speeding up ipv6 adoption? (2)

Xtravar (725372) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605114)

What are your intentions with this block of IP addresses, Microsoft? To whore them out, or help speed the adoption of ipv6 by sitting on them, or neither?

Re:Speeding up ipv6 adoption? (1)

perlchild (582235) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605310)

I would imagine their new datacenter expansions might require a bit of addresses(no idea how many would be actually needed without seeing their network design)
to support windows phone 7 and related apps.

600k+ addresses is a bit much though, unless they have plans to offer natting/tunneling services for windows 7 phones, perhaps to ease ipv6 issues on the part of their partners?

Re:Speeding up ipv6 adoption? (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605560)

They also provide cloud services. Imagine how many IP addresses Amazon needs to keep EC2 going.

Re:Speeding up ipv6 adoption? (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605608)

Would think that they both use anycast routing and don't need quite so many IP's as you might think.

Re:Speeding up ipv6 adoption? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605342)

We just want them for the developers, developers, developers, developers.
Steve

Re:Speeding up ipv6 adoption? (1)

Ghengis Khak (1967518) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605360)

What are your intentions with this block of IP addresses, Microsoft? To whore them out, or help speed the adoption of ipv6 by sitting on them, or neither?

Or both?

Re:Speeding up ipv6 adoption? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605612)

They certainly won't help speed up ipv6 adoption. Not now that they paid for this address block. They want to make money on it, so they'll hamper ipv6 to do it. Which they can do easily, by ensuring that ipv6 doesn't work too well with home-user's windows. They are the majority of users, after all.

How horrible (4, Interesting)

Bizzeh (851225) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605126)

it is so horrible that microsoft are bailing out a bankrupt businss buy buying assets from them for more than what they are worth... allowing the company to pass the money down to employees that have lost wages... i cant think of anything worse

Re:How horrible (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605476)

it is so horrible that microsoft are bailing out a bankrupt businss buy buying assets from them for more than what they are worth... allowing the company to pass the money down to employees that have lost wages... i cant think of anything worse

If this was for Nortel's employee's benefit then shouldn't they auction them off instead of selling them to Microsoft? I'm sure they could get more than $11.25 a piece on the open market.

Re:How horrible (-1, Troll)

HornWumpus (783565) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605538)

Your sure? Absolutely sure? Moron.

Re:How horrible (4, Funny)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605722)

Your sure? Absolutely sure? Moron.

I'm absolutely positively 100% certain that:
* if Nortel was allowed to auction them off they could get more then $11.25 per IP.
* "you're" is not spelled the way you spelled it.

Re:How horrible (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35606036)

* "than" is not spelled the way you spelled it.

Re:How horrible (4, Funny)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#35606066)

* "than" is not spelled the way you spelled it.

Well, I didn't dispute the moron accusation so I'm par for the course ;-)

Re:How horrible (1)

fnj (64210) | more than 3 years ago | (#35606222)

-1, PUNK

Re:How horrible (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605554)

it is so horrible that microsoft are bailing out a bankrupt businss buy buying assets from them for more than what they are worth... allowing the company to pass the money down to employees that have lost wages... i cant think of anything worse

STFU with the snark, you uninformed toolbag. The long-standing principle has been that IPs that were assigned to an entity that goes bankrupt revert back to ARIN for reassignment, not that they become an asset to be sold off. If you'd bother to read the NANOG thread you might have known that...

Re:How horrible (1)

electrosoccertux (874415) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605634)

this is pretty similar to cap and trade, which is ok, so I fail to see what they're doing wrong here.

666,624 (2)

ksandom (718283) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605150)

So what you really mean is 667, 000 not 666, 000. But that's not quite as fun :P

Re:666,624 (2)

Xtravar (725372) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605158)

If you round up to the nearest evil number, 666,666.

Re:666,624 (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605258)

It's not a coincidence. Take 666,666 and subtract the magic number 42 and you get 666,624.

Re:666,624 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605626)

It's not a coincidence. Take 666,666 and subtract the magic number 42 and you get 666,624.

Nice, hypothesis except Papyrus 115 and a number of other ancient texts give the number of the beast as chi, iota, stigma or 616.

Re:666,624 (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605218)

Either way, it really should be enough for anyone.

Re:666,624 (1)

by (1706743) (1706744) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605364)

Either way, it really should be enough for anyone.

Just like 640K RAM ;)

We're Saved! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605498)

It's Captain Obvious!

Re:666,624 (1)

MichaelKristopeit419 (2018878) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605324)

slashdot editors have no sense of ethics or moral responsibility to the absolute truth. i can understand the use of 666k to save digits... but if you're using every significant digit, and showing the number again 7 words later, MAYBE IT WOULD BE SMART TO NOT IGNORANTLY AND HYPOCRITICALLY CONTRADICT YOURSELF, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING YOUR CLAIMS AS A PURVEYOR OF NEWS.

666,000 =/= 666,624

slashdot = stagnated.

Re:666,624 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605562)

Someone says '666' and you pop up out of your dreary hole in the ground? Will you go away if someone says '667', please?

Re:666,624 (1)

Urza9814 (883915) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605478)

Not unless they're going to add the word 'about'. Microsoft DID buy 666,000 addresses. They did NOT buy 667,000.

It would also be accurate to say that Microsoft bought 1 IP address. Because they did. It just happened to be in a bundle with 666,624 others

Of course, since they used '666,000' rather than '666k' or even '666 thousand', there's absolutely no reason they couldn't have just put '666,624' in there instead of just zeros....

Re:666,624 (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605872)

Yeah, and in such reasoning you could say they missed the golden opportunity to say Microsoft bought 655,360 IPs (+11, 264)

Re:666,624 (1)

Urza9814 (883915) | more than 3 years ago | (#35606086)

Certainly, that would be correct. But it would be inaccurate. The problem with 667k is that it is accurate, but incorrect. 666k is both accurate and correct.

</pedant>

Not an approved sale (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605154)

Note that this is a proposed sale before the bankruptcy judge, not an approved sale.

IANAL, but if this gets approved, that the IP addresses are assets that can be transferred in this manner I imagine there will be some busy attorneys as this goes up the chain of courts.

End of the world (1)

Puzzles (874941) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605198)

Does this suggest that the end of the world will coincide with the depletion of IPv4 addresses?

Re:End of the world (4, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605238)

You never know [xkcd.com] ...

Re:End of the world (2)

Is0m0rph (819726) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605694)

Of course it does. I believe the Mayans knew we would run out of IPv4 addresses near the end of 2012. They knew that would be the end of the world so they didn't do a calendar past that.

Bye bye Nortel (2)

dave562 (969951) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605212)

They are hemorraging assets left and right. By this time next year I doubt there will be any employees left at "Nortel". It's too bad because they were a major player for so long. That NT-1 switch is a real work horse.

Re:Bye bye Nortel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605302)

they're bankrupt, retard.

Re:Bye bye Nortel (2)

fat_mike (71855) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605480)

We had their 0x32 hybrid switch. Bought it back in 1994 and it was the perfect phone system for small to medium sized companies. **266344. I smile every time I walk into a place and see the phones cause I know that code.

We donated it to a church/school in 2000 and other than the HD dying in the voice mail unit, it is still chugging along today. Funny thing is we paid $197,000 for it in 1994. When the HD died in 2007 I was able to buy a release 4 (with OS/2!) voice mail for $259.

Its a shame, they had some really, really nice phone systems.

Dinosaurs of technology (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605592)

That NT-1 switch is a real work horse.

The Space Shuttle was a real work horse.
The DC-10, -9, and -8 were real workhorses too.
Heck, even the venerable DC-3 was a hell of a workhorse.
So were steam locomotives.
For that matter, just go back a little more in time, and a good work horse was... a real work horse.

Supply and Demand (1)

rogueippacket (1977626) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605284)

The entire IPv6 situation can be summed up with basic economics: until the cost of acquiring IPv4 addresses exceeds the cost of implementing IPv6 - for developers and service providers alike - a transition will not occur. None of you want to hear it, but Service Provider NAT is actually less expensive than IPv6 right now. A much more likely future scenario instead of widespread IPv6 adoption is that you will be paying extra for a globally routable address instead of a NAT'd address.
Disclaimer: I work for one of the largest telcos in North America.

who's for deciphering fake vs real, math & his (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605286)

you had to be there, or know somebody? otherwise it's all (what really happened) hush hush. if we end up like dr. who's world, whose fault will that be? ray guns? we've got those. exploding stuff? that too. real science & math however, remain total fiction to many of us. babys rule. perfect math. restores 1+1=everybody, as valid universally.

or, why do we crowd ourselves? convenience? 'economics' (even more bad
math)? love? none of those? we're herde(a)d, as a matter of efficiency,
convenience & inventory maintenance by our rulers. it's also better to
keep your subscribers (hostages?) in nice neat piles, for several reasons?
are the chosen ones crowde(a)d/cramped/suffering unrepayable debt, usury
etc...??

alternative (real) math might purport; deweaponize, spread out. get
comfortable. reproduce. take care of each other. reclaim our atmosphere, &
other stuff, like what really happened so far, & from now on. babys rule.
unassailable perfect math. fortunately, time space & circumstance remains
completely uncontrollable by us (not the babys), all math, nature &
physics is under assault, at this moment in time, temporarily, in this
case, by black hole bad math eugenatic corepirate nazi mutant religious
zealot media owning hypenosys peddlers (death merchants), & their
genetically, chemically & spiritually altered minions; 'kings', adrians,
fake weather alchemists etc.. it's hard to remember, with all that going
on, that all we really need to know, is that babys rule. easier, quieter,
playful, living, math etc..

Re:who's for deciphering fake vs real, math & (2)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605418)

Looks like the closely packed parallel universes are colliding again. We got a Time Cube infestation here, folks.

If ever there was a death knell (1)

kwerle (39371) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605288)

This is it. When real companies pay real money for IP4 addresses, it is the beginning of the end.

Suddenly IP6 day seems a lot more interesting.

An investment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605300)

When XP is finally dead in another 10 years, these IP addresses will be worth two cups of coffee. The return on investment is phenomenal!

(comparatively speaking, of course)

Congrats MIT! (1)

goodmanj (234846) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605350)

In other news, MIT [mit.edu] just gained $189 million dollars worth of assets.

The real need for the addresses (5, Funny)

KingRatMass (1448233) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605354)

Only 1 address will used by MS, the other 666,623 are for Northwind Traders.

poor old 47.* (1)

Fractal Dice (696349) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605356)

I used to ask managers how much our unused IP addresses were worth and they used to give me a blank stare.

In hindsight, I probably should have taken that as a bad sign.

Happening elsewhere too (1)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605420)

I am the IT manager for a smallish company, and we recently purchased another block of 128 addresses even though we only need some of those right now, since we want to be in a position to accommodate for future growth over the next several years.

Re:Happening elsewhere too (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605896)

So, we have reached the point in the supply curve where the remaining supply suddenly evaporates due to hoarding.

I have a /21 for sale (it is a shell company) (5, Interesting)

ajmcello (663424) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605434)

It is pre 1997 and pre-ARIN, which is not subject to any of the transfer restrictions or guidelines ARIN as since imposed. Since it is grandfathered in, it is not subject to the annual maintenance dues. Let me know if anyone is interested.

Re:I have a /21 for sale (it is a shell company) (1)

nblender (741424) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605596)

heh. I have 2 /23's from about the mid-90's and I believe they're in the same position... I always assumed they were worth nothing. They're worth something to me though.

Speculating on IPv4 address shortage ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605454)

Looks like a clear conflict of interest to me. Speculating on the shortage of IPv4 addresses while owning an operating system that can influence the adoption of IPv6. Now Microsoft has a financial interest in slowing down the IPv6 adoption. Weird...

Re:Speculating on IPv4 address shortage ? (1)

goodmanj (234846) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605614)

Really good point. But this sort of "insider trading" isn't regulated by the FCC or anyone else with legal authority. ARIN can refuse to transfer the numbers to Microsoft's control, but it's easy to do an end-run around this by keeping a "shell Nortel" around. The judge could stop it, but it's not his job to do so.

I don't see how anyone but the bankruptcy judge stop this.

bought the track, still can't win a race? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605462)

no fans (hostages) in the stands? no entries in for the no-purse contests? no really new races (other than eugenics) coming up?

after we're all disarmed; (weapons & media);

history catching up in order to correct future? if we pay attention. that's affordable, & can lead to a whole bunch of thrivial pursuits.

we'll then expect to see you at any one of the million babys+
play-dates, conscience arisings, georgia stone editing(s), photon gatherings & a host of
other life promoting/loving events. guaranteed to activate all of our
sense(s) at once. perhaps you have seen our list of pure intentions for
you /us, beginning with disarmament?

just kidding? not at all

GeorgiaStoneMasons, 'chosen ones', in cahoots? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 18, @09:12AM (#35528686)
the GSM get their tiny (ie; selfish, stingy, eugenatic, fake math) .5
billion remaining population, & the money/weapons/vaccine/deception/fake
'weather' alchemist/genetically altered nazi mutant goon exchangers, get
us? yikes

the 'fog' is lifting? more chariots will be needed?

ALL (uninfactdead) MOMMYS......

the georgia stone remains uneditable? gad zooks. are there no chisels?

previous math discardead; 1+1 extrapolated (Score:-1)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 14, @10:59PM (#35487476)
deepends on how you interpret it. georgia stone freemason 'math'; the
variables & totals are objective oriented; oranges: 1+1= not enough,
somebody's gotta die. people; 1+1=2, until you get to .5 billion, then
1+1=2 too many, or, unless, & this is what always happens, they breed
uncontrolled, naturally (like monkeys), then, 1+1=could easily result in
millions of non-approved, hoardsplitting spawn. see the dilemma? can
'math', or man'kind' stand even one more League of Smelly Infants being
born?

there are alternative equations being proffered. the deities (god, allah,
yahweh, buddha, & all their supporting castes) state in their manuals that
we needn't trouble ourselves with thinning the population, or being so
afraid as to need to hoard stuff/steal everything. chosen people? chosen
for what? to live instead of us? in the case of life, more is always
better. unassailable perfect math. see you at the play-dates, georgia
stone editing(s) etc... babys rule.

exploding babys; corepirate nazis to be caged (Score:-1)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 13, @10:50PM (#35476142)
there are plans to put them, (the genetically, surgically & chemically
altered coreprate nazi mutant fear/death mongerers (aka47; eugenatics,
weapons peddlers, kings/minions, adrians, freemasons etc...)) on display
in glass cages, around the world, so that we can remember not to forget...
again, what can happen, based on greed/fear/ego stoking deception.

viewing/feeding will be rationed based on how many more of the creators'
innocents are damaged, or have to be brought home (& they DO have another
one) prematurely.

stock in the toilet, not being invited to parties? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605730)

it's a lovely morning in brussels. the meetings (other than the babys being tear gassed outside) are going well. there are even more meetings planned. the lunch was fit for kings. some terrific (if not new) stand-up was delivered inside. what is that smell? is that babys, mommys? do they always smell like that? can't really see. are they all smoking? can the # of smoking babys/mommys be calculated? so as to help our rulers determine how many caskets are needed (smokers have a very predictable life span), & how many bombs can be acquired with the proceeds, in order to find/explode the guilty invisible terrorists, at home, abroad, & in outer space. it's god's will. how much do they want for brussels?

BNR's Class A block (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605490)

Nortel had the 47.* Class A block, registered under the Bell Northern Research name. BNR was Northern Telecom's research arm (think Bell Labs to Western Electric) before it was merged into the parent company.

ARIN seems to specifically allow this (1)

brteag00 (987351) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605518)

I followed a previous comment's link to the MIT library services' page about owning the entire 18.*.*.* A block, then went poking around the American Registry of Internet Numbers website [arin.net] and, on their transfers page [arin.net] , found the following text:

"There is also a Transfers to Specified Recipients Policy to allow entities to monetize transfers of extra address space to specified recipients who qualify for the space."

"Monitization" of transfers? Sounds like the sale of IPV4 addresses is okay, at least those administered by the ARIN.

Re:ARIN seems to specifically allow this (1)

u38cg (607297) | more than 3 years ago | (#35606122)

The key point is "qualify for the space". Personally, my opinion is that ponying up $11m pretty much qualifies you, but apparently ARIN disagree.

Yo dawg (2)

atari2600a (1892574) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605522)

Wanna score some v4? I got some premo shit right here!

Licensing (1)

bakes (87194) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605594)

Maybe we should tell them that they do not purchase the IPs, they only purchase a license to use them...

Buy HP stock? (1)

blackwizard (62282) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605600)

They have two /8s [iana.org] and change. ;-)

015/8 Hewlett-Packard Company 1994-07 LEGACY
016/8 Digital Equipment Corporation 1994-11 LEGACY

Number of the KBeast (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605656)

MS isn't even trying to hide it anymore.

Hasn't Closed Yet (1)

mbone (558574) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605658)

This has to go before the judge, etc., so it hasn't actually happened yet. No word as to whether or not ARIN will contest it (as IP addresses are not supposed to be property; they are assigned by ARIN, which reserves rights to take them back) or, if it does, whether or not the judge would pay attention.

Obligatory (-1, Redundant)

rossdee (243626) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605676)

655,360 should be enough for anybody

Conversion (1)

theunixman (538211) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605746)

Nortel doesn't own the IP addresses, yet their bankruptcy trustees decided to sell them anyway, which is probably not legal. Now whether ICANN actually sues them remains to be seen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_(law) [wikipedia.org]

Cloud Computing (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35605772)

I have to believe this is for the Azure cloud product. Since each instance of Azure requires a full /21 block of non RFC1918 space and all the addresses within that block must be contiguous. Yes, we all agree that is an insane requirement.

Rent IP Addresses (1)

Drew M. (5831) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605776)

The only real way to ensure that we don't run out of IP space is to rent them, not sell them. Charge a "property tax" of $1 per IP a month and you'll see tons of organizations with class A blocks give back IP space that they weren't using anyway because they can't afford $16M a month. No organization should ever need more than a few class Cs of publicly routable IP space.

Re:Rent IP Addresses (4, Insightful)

afidel (530433) | more than 3 years ago | (#35606056)

No organization should ever need more than a few class Cs of publicly routable IP space.

You're thinking backwards, every endpoint should ideally have a public IP, NAT breaks the end to end model and makes software much more difficult to write.

Probably an "IP" mixup. (1)

aix tom (902140) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605864)

I guess Nortel put an "666,624 IPs for sale" ad in the paper, and a Microsoft drone thought "Yo, man, we can get 666,624 Intellectual Properties from a big telephone company, I'm pretty sure there are *some* patents in there we can use to sue everybody else into oblivion" and made a rush purchase. ;-P

what's the point? (1)

Khashishi (775369) | more than 3 years ago | (#35605984)

Seems like a pretty stupid investment to me. When we run out of IP4 addresses, then we'll just move to IP6. The IP4 addresses will become worthless obsolete abstract allocations. That's what happens when you try to hoard a completely artificial resource.

Re:what's the point? (1)

ashvagan (885082) | more than 3 years ago | (#35606058)

Seems like an even stupider story to me. What's the point of mentioning this in the news? They just bought a lot of IPv4 addresses, so bloody what? Why would anyone try to stop a company from buying IPv4 addresses from another company? What a waste of time!

Well, that should be enough. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35606238)

640K should be enough for anyone, and that's roughly how many addresses they snagged...
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