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Leonard Nimoy Turns 80

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the if-shatner-gets-one-so-does-nimoy dept.

Sci-Fi 165

ZosX writes "Leonard Nimoy, whom we all fondly remember as Spock, has turned 80 today. StarTrek.com has posted a three-part interview with Nimoy. He talks about shooting the original series ('it was explained to me that they were concerned that the character looked devilish'), moving to the silver screen ('The feeling was, after that first movie, there was something to be done with Star Trek, that the first movie hadn't done what was available to be done'), and passing the torch to the new rebooted cast ('I think the alternate universe was necessary.') Thanks for the memories, Mr. Nimoy! May you live long and prosper!"

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Live Long (0)

yeshuawatso (1774190) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626062)

Live long and prosper....he took that character way too seriously!

Re:Live Long (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626258)

"...character way too seriously!"

Responses:

1. So did we, that's why he's where he is.

1. And we put him there. So what does that make us?

Re:Live Long (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626306)

Enamored of stern, smart, logical pointy-eared beings?

Re:Live Long (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626478)

It's an elf thing. (Note Spock's dry, pointed sense of humor... he at least has one)

LOL, YES! With an example I loved from TOS... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626806)

From the "Ultimate Computer" episode, when McCoy's ribbing on Spock @ the end, & Spock in his style with its inimitable cool, said:

Mr. Spock: "It would be most interesting to impress your memory engrams on a computer, Doctor. The resulting torrential flood of illogic would be most entertaining."

(LMAO!)

APK

P.S.=> Nobody could "bust your balls" the way Mr. Spock could imo! apk

Re:Live Long (1)

yeshuawatso (1774190) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627574)

Don't know. I didn't get into Star Trek until Voyager, and even then not until Jeri Ryan joined in, and the reinvigoration that was called Star Trek of 2010. Prior to that, Shatner was the Danny Crane. Hell, I just discovered Battlestar Galactica after Caprica ended, and I've never got into Star Wars (tried, but couldn't stomach it).

Guess I'm not part of the "us" crowd but I can at least understand why you guys have so much nostalgia for him and his character.

Re:Live Long (2)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626344)

Yeah, that's exactly why his first autobiography was entitled I Am Not Spock [wikipedia.org] .

Leonard Nimoy has always been very very clear that he has a life outside of his career, and a career outside of Mr Spock. So while he created a highly beloved character, it's not like he's actually a Vulcan.

Re:Live Long (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626390)

I think he's actually Romulan. They look alike, ya know. Part of a plot. The only way to kill the old Kirk was to completely change the universe. So, the fight between him and Nero was staged.

Re:Live Long (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626446)

Romulans ARE Vulcans! Sheesh!

Re:Live Long (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626600)

Only in the way that everybody in Arkansas is related to each other...and why they aren't allowed by law to marry people from Alabama, even though they have to cross through another state to get there...

Re:Live Long (1)

ChinggisK (1133009) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626512)

You are conveniently leaving out his other autobiography - I Am Spock [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Live Long (4, Funny)

Khith (608295) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626604)

Don't forget the third in the series! - I Am Also Scotty

Re:Live Long (2, Interesting)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626648)

You are conveniently leaving out his other autobiography - I Am Spock [wikipedia.org] .

That is... Contradictory... It is not... Logical... Mister Spock... Explain...

Re:Live Long (1)

sconeu (64226) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627368)

Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD. Are you sure your circuits are functioning correctly? Your ears are green.

you mean the Mysteries of the Bible guy? (4, Funny)

decora (1710862) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626640)

i didnt realize he had done other work. this 'star trek' certainly sounds a little outside my normal fare, but i am willing to do a trial run.

Re:you mean the Mysteries of the Bible guy? (3, Informative)

Skater (41976) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626908)

He was in an episode of Get Smart, too.

Re:you mean the Mysteries of the Bible guy? (1)

Remloc (1165839) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627868)

You're talking about the guy who plays (present tense) William Bell, right?

Re:Live Long (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626924)

I'm actually kinda looking forward to seeing him get it on with Jasika Nicole while occupying Anna Torv's body...maybe next week...

Re:Live Long (2)

Seumas (6865) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626824)

Not really. As I recall, he despised the character for some time afterward, because that's all anyone cared about. Eventually, like with Patrick Steward, he came to embrace it.

I, for one, am going to be pretty broken up when he passes. I have a list of old dudes that are going to be hard for me to handle the passing of and he's near the top.

Few people get to create the lasting icon that he did.

Re:Live Long (2)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627242)

I never understood that shit either. I'd love to ask him "What are you nuts?" Here is a guy that has created a character that will live on long past his expiration date, that is beloved by practically the whole damned planet, and he has the nerve to bitch about it? You know how many performers would KILL just for a tenth of the recognition he got for Spock? Whereas most performers if they are very very VERY lucky get the briefest of tastes he got to enjoy the ride for something like 40 years, and unlike those that just keep hitting the snooze button on their 15 minutes of fame he has just become MORE beloved as time went on.

So seriously Nimoy you got more than 95% of actors ever get. Enjoy your immortality and be happy on you birthday, because very few of us will truly be remembered outside of our close circles when we are gone, but "Live long and prosper' will be said centuries from now. Hell just look at your late friends Doohan and Kelley, who are no longer with us but damned near everyone on the planet hears their voice and pictures their face if you say "She can't take it much more Captain!" or "I'm a doctor Jim, not a ___". So be happy, so few ever get to enjoy that kind of recognition.

Re:Live Long (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627530)

I don't know his reasons but it probably went something like "people idolize my crap acting on this pseudo-scientific garbage show? Idiots, all of them." Actors have a different PoV than the people watching at home. Most of the time they are genuinely surprised -- and not always in a good way -- when people like their work.

Re:Live Long (2)

Seumas (6865) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627596)

Yeah, Nimoy is a really well rounded guy. I mean, he's a professional photographer and a poet and an actor (dramatic actor, theater actor), writer, singer. It's entirely understandable that he would be unhappy with the one character overshadowing everything else. Especially since it was a three year show that took years to really take off and even longer to truly be a renowned hit.

Also, he likes to take photos of . . . uh . . . rubenesque ladies.

http://www.rmichelson.com/artist_pages/nimoy/pages/MaxBeaut.htm [rmichelson.com]

Also, he signs his damn twitter posts with LLAP, now. How can that not give you kind of a fuzzy feeling?

I like Shatner, too. For different reasons. These two men made the most of their careers in very different ways, but in the end they both came to accept the roles they played and the main reason people came to love them so much. I think that says a lot.

First Shatner, now this?? (5, Funny)

Kell Bengal (711123) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626098)

What is it with the cast of Star Trek all celebrating birthdays? It's like it's an annual occurrence or something!

Re:First Shatner, now this?? (2)

Dolphinzilla (199489) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626188)

seems weird that William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy are nearly exactly the same age

Yeah but Vulcans live longer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626290)

I doubt we'll be celebrating Shatner's 160th, but I'd be all for it. Especially being around to post on /.

Re:Yeah but Vulcans live longer (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626314)

Perhaps by the time William is 160, he will actually.... finish a... sentence.

he will just be a head in a jar then! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626418)

he will just be a head in a jar then!

Re:First Shatner, now this?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626454)

They're also both Ashkenazi Jews of Ukranian descent.

Re:First Shatner, now this?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626580)

seems weird that 'nearly exactly' and 'nearly' have exactly the same meaning

Re:First Shatner, now this?? (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626730)

Exactly! What are the odds they each would celebrate their birthdays in the same year?

Re:First Shatner, now this?? (2)

click2005 (921437) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627156)

In 4 more years it'll be happy pon farr day. Kirk doesn't get one of those.

Re:First Shatner, now this?? (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627556)

What is it with the cast of Star Trek all celebrating birthdays? It's like it's an annual occurrence or something!

Yeah, both the 80th' birthdays happen every year. Stupid brainless Pakled.

Leonard who? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626118)

Was he the guy who invented the spork?

Re:Leonard who? (1)

Alien Being (18488) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626154)

I fail to see your logic.

Re:Leonard who? (2)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626236)

No, but I think he's the guy who wrote, "The Hobbit"

Re:Leonard who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626262)

If there were a movie of it, I'd probably know what you're talking about.

Re:Leonard who? (4, Informative)

DataDiddler (1994180) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626318)

Wrote it? I only knew that he sang it [youtube.com] .

Re:Leonard who? (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626400)

you're thinking of the foroon, and that was invented by someone completely different.

Re:Leonard who? (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626834)

No, he's the guy who wrote books about how to raise children.

Re:Leonard who? (1)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626904)

Yes. [amazonaws.com]

Thanks Leo (5, Insightful)

spliffington (1130983) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626144)

For being the face of Vulcans, All those groovy spaced out 60's go go records and for all that voiceover work through the years. Especially Civ4. Thanks for doing what you do!

Priorities (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626176)

Turkey postpones daylight saving time, so that students won't be late for a university placement test on Sunday. The whole country will not "spring forward" until Monday, but just this year. Meanwhile on Slashdot, we get to read about some old bloke's birthday...

Re:Priorities (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626270)

It's how we've replaced gods of old. Instead of sacrificing virgins for the Unseeing Eye, we praise our ST:TOS deities. In 200 years they will be walking among us again. Be nice to them or suffer eternally.

Re:Priorities (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626330)

To be honest I would have stuck with the virgins. That way at least some of us could get to see one every year...

Re:Priorities (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626638)

Nobody said the virgins looked like Allison Stokke. What if the sacrificed virgins were Rosie O'Donnells?

Re:Priorities (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627118)

Nobody said the virgins looked like Allison Stokke. What if the sacrificed virgins were Rosie O'Donnells?

Rosie owns virgins? Who knew?

Spock (anyone) whois not a double digit freemason (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626198)

it'll be a long time until next year, if we're still here at all. unchosen old/poor folks are having their heat subsidy turned off. there's a 'new' fatal pneumonia circulating in ca. officially unproven deaths by vaporization all over the 'other' 1/2 of the planet.

we still have options, & help available, unless we're ok/fine/tired of living.

William Bell on Fringe (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626232)

I decided to "skip a year" of Fringe with an eye towards one day buying the DVD. At the time he seemed interested in playing William Bell for a few episodes, but apparently things didn't work out.

Re:William Bell on Fringe (2)

Kozz (7764) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626252)

I decided to "skip a year" of Fringe with an eye towards one day buying the DVD. At the time he seemed interested in playing William Bell for a few episodes, but apparently things didn't work out.

Well, what's amusing is that in the most recent (?) episode, his character sort of makes a "comeback", although not with Nimoy. Yet I must say that the person who is "doing" the Bell character definitely seems to be attempting to also emulate Nimoy's speech and mannerisms. Details left slim to avoid spoilers...

Re:William Bell on Fringe (1)

sjames (1099) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626606)

And she's not doing a half-bad job of it either.

Re:William Bell on Fringe (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626272)

He was only cast to do 3 episodes. He was open to doing more, but it would depend on a lot of external factors and his schedule. From what I have read, it was pretty much just a favor to JJ Abrams. http://insidetv.ew.com/2009/05/01/leonard-nimoy-o/

Re:William Bell on Fringe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626488)

Things worked out. Nimoy would only commit to a few episodes. He didn't want to be in it for the long run.

Re:William Bell on Fringe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626534)

He's trapped inside Olivia Dunham's head now!

Re:William Bell on Fringe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627674)

Nimoy has retired on acting. This is why you aren't seeing him in fringe.

Bizarre Coincidence (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626260)

How's this for weird:

At almost the exact moment that I opened SlashDot, which showed this as the first story, the audio system in my living room (driven by AppleTV) started playing music from the original StarTrek movie.

Spooky.

Re:Bizarre Coincidence (5, Funny)

dingen (958134) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626322)

Spooky.

Or... Spocky!

Actually, spocky* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626456)

nm

Re:Bizarre Coincidence (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627572)

How's this for weird:

At almost the exact moment that I opened SlashDot, which showed this as the first story, the audio system in my living room (driven by AppleTV) started playing music from the original StarTrek movie.

Spooky.

Yeah, I recommend you set your phasers to stun.

Nimoy made OST (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626310)

Shatner might have received/stolen most of the credit and glory, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who believes Leonard Nimoy was the true star of the OST franchise. Among everyone trekkie'ish I know, Zachary Quinto's performance as the new Spock is the thing that has attracted the most attention in the rebooted Star Trek. I haven't heard any concern for the new Kirk.

Re:Nimoy made OST (2)

hey! (33014) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626576)

Quinto was very good, but Karl Urban as Bones stole most of the scenes he was in. I also thought he had better chemistry with Chris Pine than DeForest Kelley had with Shatner. Their friendship had a plausible basis in the script too; Starfleet is just a place for Bones to go; like Kirk he's not so enamored of it. On the other hand he's older and been through the emotional mill, and so is a kind of mentor to Kirk. That was very well done, I thought.

We're much more used to ensemble casting today, but back in the day TV shows were more like star vehicles. Having two strong characters flanking the star really helped the show stand out. I wonder if that might behind some of the bad feelings of some of the cast towards Shatner. Nimoy regularly got pretty good scripts for somebody who wasn't a star, and Kelley had a few. It's easy to imagine terrific scripts for any of the regular characters, but while the show made use of minor characters for color and humor, the really good scripts stop at the big three. Later Star Trek shows went further with spreading the stories around; I wonder if that isn't why the star characters are perceived by some fans as less dynamic.

Anyhow, happy birthday to Leonard Nimoy, who took what might have been a silly part and turned it into something special. Not many actors fashion an enduring cultural legacy, but he did it in a mere three TV seasons -- 79 performances in all.

Re:Nimoy made OST (0)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626658)

The thing that attracted MY attention the most in that horrible movie was the plot: lots of holes, contrived coincidences, and inconsistencies. Same morons who wrote Transformers, what else could one expect?

Re:Nimoy made OST (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627426)

Yes, but what did you think of the recent reboot of the franchise?

Re:Nimoy made OST (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627902)

I see what you did there.

Re:Nimoy made OST (4, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627584)

Shatner might have received/stolen most of the credit and glory, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who believes Leonard Nimoy was the true star of the OST franchise. Among everyone trekkie'ish I know, Zachary Quinto's performance as the new Spock is the thing that has attracted the most attention in the rebooted Star Trek. I haven't heard any concern for the new Kirk.

I'm all for giving credit where credit is due, but the problem with what you're saying is that Star Trek didn't have a 'star'. It had Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. Remove any of those characters and you don't have a show anymore.

He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a fan (4, Informative)

ZosX (517789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626432)

As a semi-professional photographer I find it interesting that nimoy took up photography and directing. You guys should really google for some of his work. Its pretty interesting to say the least. He does have an online gallery:

http://www.rmichelson.com/Artist_Pages/Nimoy/pages/Leonard-Nimoy-Gallery.html [rmichelson.com]

Oh and thanks soulskill for filling out the summary a bit.

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (2)

ZosX (517789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626436)

OH....NSFW BTW!

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627590)

OH....NSFW BTW!

I think his photos demonstrate that the difference between art and porn is lighting.

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626462)

As a semi-professional photographer I find it interesting that nimoy took up photography and directing.

As a professional photographer, I find the "semi-professional" title offensive. It's like all the "engineering technicians" who claim to be engineers, college "professors" that don't have their PhDs, and garbagemen claiming to be "sanitation engineers". Actually, it's worse. It's like the kids who have changed a battery in their iphone and now claim to be computer repair specialists.

Honestly. I *hate* how society has come to a point where everyone believes themselves to be super-special.

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (1)

ZosX (517789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626496)

So you are saying that I am just a hack? I only say semi because its not something I do full time. I think you need to get over yourself and take off the mask of the AC when you are speaking your mind. We can be adults and talk like normal human beings. I agree it sounds kind of lame. Hey. I'm lame. Did you even actually ever look at any of my photography? If not, maybe you should, and you can decide what kind of photographer I am.

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (2)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626502)

As a semi-professional photographer I find it interesting that nimoy took up photography and directing.

As a professional photographer, I find the "semi-professional" title offensive. It's like all the "engineering technicians" who claim to be engineers, college "professors" that don't have their PhDs, and garbagemen claiming to be "sanitation engineers". Actually, it's worse. It's like the kids who have changed a battery in their iphone and now claim to be computer repair specialists.

Honestly. I *hate* how society has come to a point where everyone believes themselves to be super-special.

In other words, you're an arrogant elitist.

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (1)

ZosX (517789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626520)

;)

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626522)

As a semi-professional photographer I find it interesting that nimoy took up photography and directing.

As a professional photographer, I find the "semi-professional" title offensive. It's like all the "engineering technicians" who claim to be engineers, college "professors" that don't have their PhDs, and garbagemen claiming to be "sanitation engineers". Actually, it's worse. It's like the kids who have changed a battery in their iphone and now claim to be computer repair specialists. Honestly. I *hate* how society has come to a point where everyone believes themselves to be super-special.

Oh, aren't you the special one?

Semi-pro is a legit label. And because of the ubiquitous availability of smart cameras, the ranks of the semi-pros has grown to the point where they make the "professional photographer" feel threatened.

Within 20 years, there'll be no such thing as a "professional photographer."

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (1, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626602)

No kidding. I mean, he's comparing "professional photography" to engineering.

It's fucking photography, not landing spaceships on Mars or building mile-long suspension bridges.

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627594)

No kidding. I mean, he's comparing "professional photography" to engineering.

It's fucking photography, not landing spaceships on Mars or building mile-long suspension bridges.

The difference between a photographer and an engineer is that nobody dies when a photographer skips classes.

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626572)

You mad bro? You're probably not half the photographer Nimoy is and that's why you're all pissy, grow up kid!

as a true coward, i find 'anonymous cowards' (1)

decora (1710862) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626668)

to be offensive.

if you are really a coward, then don't hide behind the shadow of the 'anonymous' tag. those of us who are really, truly cowards are sick of every tom dick and harry claiming the mantle of cowardice for themselves.

Re:He's a photographer now....I'm even more of a f (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627606)

As a professional photographer, I find the "semi-professional" title offensive.

...

Honestly. I *hate* how society has come to a point where everyone believes themselves to be super-special.

*smirk*

'Live long'? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626504)

If he's 80 years old, I think we can tick that one off as done. And I don't think he's done too badly on the 'prosper' part either.

Don't forget his other 70's TV series (5, Interesting)

Slacker (3964) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626662)

He wrote and hosted the series "In Search Of..." from 1976-1982

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074007/ [imdb.com]

" Lost civilizations, extraterrestrials, myths and monsters, missing persons, magic and witchcraft, unexplained phenomena. "In Search Of..." cameras are traveling the world, seeking out these great mysteries. This program was the result of the work of scientists, researchers and a group of highly-skilled technicians."

Many of these episodes were pure awesome for us kids that grew up just missing the first run of OST, but still getting to hear him wax poetic about alien visitors and way off the beaten path "science".

Oblig. Simpsons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627784)

"Hello, I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of alien encounters is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies, and in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer...is no."

And:

Vendor: "Hey Spock, what do you want on your hot dog?"
Nimoy: "Surprise me!"

'new' product guaranteed to please god/everybody (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626686)

non-polluting energy? no, we don't need that? dogs of peace? no, dogs are less aggressive than we've become. a 'new' vaccine? no, most of us are sick enough already.

the pitch could never say enough.. get ready. it's the king dick's version of the official holycost buybull.

already a product you say? who cares? does it have the backing of the entire corepirate nazi group? then it's finished. it was total fiction anyway. you can bet your life the 'new' buybull won't steer you wrong, & fortunately, it won't cost any more than that.once we get to the corewrecked .5 billion population, you'll see (if you're still alive), that all we ever really wanted/needed was a chance to buybull our way to our reward. gauds been good to us.

He's still pretty young (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35626704)

What is that in Vulcan years, 35?

Re:He's still pretty young (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626878)

In Hollywood years, it's 3,000.

Nimoy's okay, but... (5, Interesting)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626752)

Nimoy's okay, but I miss James "Scotty" Doohan. I saw Nimoy in person back in 1988 when he did a talk in Alabama. It was an interesting talk, but he didn't do autographs or anything, which was a bit disappointing. I saw Jimmy Doohan a few years later, and not only did he have an autograph session, but he actually scheduled a second impromptu one for people who couldn't make the first one, and was telling us stories the whole time. It was awesome. One of my prize possessions is an autographed copy of Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise. Not so much because the signature, but because of the memories that go along with what was happening at the time I got it.

Jimmy Doohan also happens to be a genuine war hero. He took part in the Normandy invasion at Juno Beach. He took out two snipers. He also took six bullets from friendly fire, including one in the chest and one that blew off a finger.

Photography schmotography. Know what Jimmy Doohan was doing when he was 80 years old? Having a baby girl (Sarah Doohan), that's what. If Leonard Nimoy could duplicate that feat, his family would have a boy with a great great aunt that's younger than he is.

Re:Nimoy's okay, but... (4, Informative)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627622)

I know people are *not* going to like this... I worked at the Seattle Sheraton back in 1998 - 1999, and Doohan came in to eat at our lower end restaurant, at that time called Pike Place Cafe. I was the Pastry Chef at the time. As a manager, on occasion I had to go out and deal with customer "issues". Doohan was drunk off his ass and one of the rudest customers I've ever had to deal with. Very abrasive with the wait staff, and if it where not for the fact that he got up and left on his own, I would have had to call Security to escort him out. I think he was staying in the hotel, but I'm not sure, just that he was highly inebriated and rude and abusive to our staff.

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but it's a true story.

Re:Nimoy's okay, but... (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627812)

I know people are *not* going to like this... I worked at the Seattle Sheraton back in 1998 - 1999, and Doohan came in to eat at our lower end restaurant, at that time called Pike Place Cafe. I was the Pastry Chef at the time. As a manager, on occasion I had to go out and deal with customer "issues". Doohan was drunk off his ass and one of the rudest customers I've ever had to deal with. Very abrasive with the wait staff, and if it where not for the fact that he got up and left on his own, I would have had to call Security to escort him out. I think he was staying in the hotel, but I'm not sure, just that he was highly inebriated and rude and abusive to our staff.

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but it's a true story.

But you left out that he had an Andromedan with him - it was all in the line of duty!

Re:Nimoy's okay, but... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627896)

Fits the profile actually.

Doohan being more open to fans, telling stories, trying to connect and earn respect, but at the same time having to deal with the pressure of being a known person... and having a baby girl with 80 means having a young woman...

Nimoy being more interested in seeking respect through self expression...

Seems like being under the pressure of being a known figure just does not solve your life issues and you still stay human.

I saw this movie once... (2)

bmo (77928) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626820)

... It was directed by J.J. Abrams and it was called "Lens Flare"

It had Leonard Nimoy in it if I recall correctly.

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BMO

Star Trek IV (2)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 3 years ago | (#35626980)

Okay, so the interviewer lauds Star Trek IV as "the most successful of the TOS features on several levels." I don't get it, and I never have. Maybe someone else can explain it to me?

Sure, it was amusing, with the colorful metaphors and the nuclear wessels and the nerve pinch on the bus and "hello computer" and all that. But it didn't seem like a strong story to me: the premise of aliens killing us because we let the whales die was one of the worst gratuitous insertions of present-day political issues into any Star Trek medium (second, perhaps, only to Riker getting busy with that androgynous alien that one time); the whole redemption of Kirk for his court-martial offense under the sham pretense of demoting him to the job he really wanted seemed like a Voyager-worthy push of the magic reset button solving everyone's problems during the last five minutes of the episode; and without an Enterprise, it didn't feel much like Star Trek.

So what was it that validated this movie for some folks? Maybe I just need a new perspective.

Re:Star Trek IV (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627054)

IV was the highest grossing movie, there's one measure of success.

Part of the charm was that the supporting characters were given a chance to act and had a chance to develop their roles rather than just narrate the plot ("warp 5, aye-aye captain" "the engines can't take anymore captain"). As for the story, iirc the aliens had no malicious intent, it was simply their attempt to communicate that was causing chaos on earth. A magic reset button after the train wreck of the third movie was also quite welcome.

Re:Star Trek IV (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627136)

I think to true trekkies (or trekkers) Star Trek II will still be the best TOS movie. But I'ld be the first to admit, watching ST II and ST III is a bit depressing. ST IV was definitely a much needed turn toward light-heartedness without being too silly (like some of the later TNG movies)

Re:Star Trek IV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627238)

> So what was it that validated this movie for some folks? Maybe I just need a new perspective.

In 1986... that was awesome. It had time travel and was Battlestar Galactica'ish. The crew traveled into our time and saved earth.

How cool if Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas would have made a cameo as James Crockett and Ricardo Tubbs... but then people might have hated it like Nemesis... xD

Re:Star Trek IV (1)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627614)

Gratuitous insertions of present-day political issues into episodes was basically the entire run of TNG.

Re:Star Trek IV (4, Insightful)

PotatoHead (12771) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627632)

It was just fun.

I think the idea that there are good people in the world, who care, who would risk their lives, and have fun is a great idea to muse upon. Lots of things are not fun right now, and there are a lot of not so good people, who don't care, risking our lives instead of theirs, and that sucks.

On some low fantasy level, I think it would be just fine to have a Kirk and crew, or even SG-1 and crew, swoop in and solve some problems.

Other things were the characters in that movie. They lit up. I enjoyed that, because I think they enjoyed doing it. That does not always come through on film, and on that movie, it did.

Has to be said (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627082)

When is his head going to be preserved in a jar? He's running out of time.

wouldn't it be something to top this thread at 80? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627180)

you've been a great artist entertainer for us. many of us grew up learning stuff from your 'role'(s). thanks. hope you're looking forward to the continuing journey as much as we are..

so bad it was great (0)

nightcats (1114677) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627350)

Just read the interview and then watched a couple of the original shows. It's worse than even I remember it was. Those of us who watched every episode of every season as they arrived recognized even then how badly they were written, how badly acted, how lamely produced -- but their poverty of quality somehow made them more compelling. We used to say, "they have to be good to be so awful.." But today, what 40 yrs or more later? There is only the vapidity left, none of the magic...

not many bad guys survive a photon burst (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35627358)

you even knew that? cool. as a matter of fact, we're finding photons (in their 'singular' form) to be quite useful as a general purpose life extender.

seems like we already have enough rigging to escape a few of us out of here, but if we were a bit more careful, we could extend our stay until we could all go along. plus, by then, we'll have a clear destination?

looks like we're having a little trouble with math, science & history. like we can't tell what happened, because there's now so many versions of what we know didn't happen, &/or when, & how many innocents were damaged/killed. seems like real history is catching up with us a bit (definitely you & i), & may help us see, if we let it.

there's also some barely identifiable bad guys, as we're sure you know, they peddle death, & some other not good stuff, for money etc...

it's not like they can be blown out of the sky, but we knew it would be like this. we have a few billion little ones that we've grown very fond of, so we're working on keeping them undead. as you likely already know, their dna is highly advanced, & they are the vast majority, they have better eyesight than birds, & are fully photon (intentional healing) functional. hurting even one of them (or any of us) sets the whole cosmos on edge. we've heard that from space, it now looks like we're making the planet into a black hole. do we need a black hole, or any big holes, in the planet?

if we were a little younger (or something), we'd show them how to not wreck anything else, or kill anybody else. we've also heard that for each of the creators' innocents harmed in any way, there is a 'debt'? makes sense. thanks again

Can't agree with him on the alternative universe. (0)

taxman_10m (41083) | more than 3 years ago | (#35627444)

It was not necessary.

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