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Facebook, Zuckerberg Sued For $1 Billion Over Intifada Page

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the no-seriously-he-really-did dept.

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An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from ZDNet: "Larry Klayman, the founder of Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, has filed a lawsuit against Facebook and its CEO Mark Zuckerberg for their role in furthering a 'radical' Facebook Page called 'Third Palestinian Intifada,' which openly advocated another uprising against the citizens of Israel. The complaint reserves the right to be amended into a class action suit and prays for compensatory and punitive damages in excess of $1 billion. ... As a quick refresher, Facebook originally said it would not remove the page but would monitor it instead. The company later pulled the page after discussions degraded into violence and hatred."

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350 comments

Welcome Back... (1, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691414)

As usual, this is my annual first post to the first story after the April Fools Day Denial of Service day on Slashdot. And boy do we have a good one tonight....

Where's the dropdown box to lower the number in the story to something more reasonable than a billion?

Facebook had it right. When the page was new there was no problem with it. When it devolved into hate speech by both sides, it was pulled. All's well, nothing to see here.

Re:Welcome Back... (3, Insightful)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691514)

If the Israelis would stop committing crimes against humanity it might be a bit easier to take them seriously. But as it's presently war criminals against terrorists and the people they represent, it's really hard to grant either side any sort of moral authority.

Re:Welcome Back... (3, Insightful)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691524)

That's pretty much my opinion. I've said it dozens of times in various places: There are no "Good Guys" in this conflict. Only the naive - amend that - only the naive who live protected lives in ivory castles - can believe otherwise.

progress (1)

Weezul (52464) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691702)

Israeli courts have moved the course of the wall several time based upon Palestinian territorial claims, for example.

Re:Welcome Back... (1, Interesting)

Kjella (173770) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691766)

Fair enough that there are no good guys but if we're going to count every feud back to the dawn of civilization then most of the world would be at war. For example, France and Germany did not just one but two world wars last century, and yet now they're both EU members with open borders, common currency and whatnot. At some point you need to leave the past behind you and accept that it happened, but that you don't need to get even anymore. Particularly if that "getting even" is dealing twice as much as you got, then it'll never end. Somebody have to be less bad than the one before them, then maybe hopefully over time things can heal. Yet every time there's a period of relative peace and stability, someone is ready to deal new, fresh scars...

Personally I decided not long after both Israel accused Norway of being anti-semitic because of some writings and the Arab countries accused us of being anti-muslim because of the Muhammad caricatures. They're both anti-freedom of speech and anti-freedom of press. As far as I am concerned, I wouldn't mind at all if the entire Middle East disappeared off the face of the earth. Or at least got their head out of the dark ages.

Re:Welcome Back... (1, Insightful)

Draek (916851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691964)

I'm not convinced there's ever been any "Good Guys" in any conflict whatsoever. People love to point out World War II as an example, but even a cursory knowledge of history would show that many of the Allies' actions were worse even than those of most modern dictators and despots.

Re:Welcome Back... (-1, Redundant)

Coolhand2120 (1001761) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691526)

Citation needed

Re:Welcome Back... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691552)

the murder of Sabra and Shatila was made Prime Minister. The siege of Gaza is ongoing collective punishment. Israeli forces committed what would be considered piracy if civilians had done it against a humanitarian aid convoy.

Citation needed? More like getting your head out of your ass needed.

Like the GP said, it's war criminals against terrorists.

Re:Welcome Back... (2)

Immostlyharmless (1311531) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691616)

Perhaps if the Palestinians hadn't thrown their hat in with their Arab neighbors during the 6 day war...then Israel wouldn't need to have war criminals?

Just sayin'....

Course, then I believe the best thing that could happen would be for someone to release a dirty bomb in Jerusalem that would render the whole damned place uninhabitable for 1000 years. Hopefully by that time both sides could either A) not care about the desert shit hole they live in anymore or more optimistically B) we might find proof that all religions are bunk and that all they've both been fighting for the last thousand years is a load of crap.

Re:Welcome Back... (3, Informative)

3p1ph4ny (835701) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691648)

FYI, Israel started the 6 day war. Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident [wikipedia.org]

Re:Welcome Back... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691706)

Ah Wikipedia. A perfectly unbiased reliable source on any political or controversial subject.

Re:Welcome Back... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691710)

If you see that someone is getting ready to shoot you, do you just sit there and let them shoot you?

Re:Welcome Back... (1, Informative)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691780)

FYI, only under thread of it in the first place.

Israel struck first, took a bunch of their weapons they were massing on the borders claiming to be for an invasion into Israel, then used them against them.

Re:Welcome Back... (3, Interesting)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691672)

Cool, so you're saying that so long as people aren't on your side it's ok to commit war crimes?

Maybe talk to the Jews who survived auschwitz about that one. Tell them that it's ok their families were gassed because the Jews were on the wrong side of WWII. Maybe tell the families that survived occupied France that it was just to kill off dissidents because France sided with the allies.

Tell the families of Vietnam that their agent orange babies are cool because they sided with the USSR.

It's easy to shrug off war crimes as "necessary" when you're siding with the ones committing the war crimes. War crimes are war crimes, there's no way to dodge the issue. No matter what an aggressor does it's never ok to commit war crimes.

Re:Welcome Back... (1)

geekpowa (916089) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691774)

Either you are a troll or you are so embedded in this dispute that you are completely unable to approach this issue with a rational critical mind.

This thread of conversation has nothing to do whatsoever with making apologies for the behaviour of Palistinians or any other group that has inflicted harm upon the Jewish community. What part of "it's really hard to grant either side any sort of moral authority." are you failing to comprehend?

Re:Welcome Back... (2)

Goaway (82658) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691844)

He was not responding to "it's really hard to grant either side any sort of moral authority", he was responding to the guy who said "Perhaps if the Palestinians hadn't thrown their hat in with their Arab neighbors during the 6 day war...then Israel wouldn't need to have war criminals?"

Re:Welcome Back... (4, Interesting)

Immostlyharmless (1311531) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691854)

Really? I don't believe that, it's easy to take the moral high ground when its not happening to *you*. I can sit there and say everyone should get a fair trial, yada yada yada. However, if my family were ever taken hostage, and I was given a rifle and could take a killing shot, no judge, no jury, no bullshit, there's not a chance in hell I wouldn't take that shot.

Would you?

Now lets look at history and revise the above scenario.

In this case Isreal had experienced over 120 acts of terror against it in the preceding 18 months by the new PLO and had seen major troop build ups and movements by both Syria and Egypt.

SO back to my original scenario, you see someone lurking outside your home with a gun, rapping on the windows and breaking into your car in the driveway. Do you wait until they enter the house and kidnap your family? Or do you act first?

I know what I would I do.....

Re:Welcome Back... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691914)

If your home is on stolen property, you have no right to be there. The Zionists are the bad guys. And the old white europeans that run the kinesset should be run off.

Umm no, mass murder isn't the answer. (3, Interesting)

Weezul (52464) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691754)

The Six Day War doesn't matte now. The old rhetoric about driving the Jews into the sea probably doesn't matter either. I think thus far the problem has been :

(a) The Palestinians have never had a really credible peace directed leader.
(b) Israel only rarely has leaders who credibly want peace.

If even a significant minority of the Palestinians were following some strong Imam who preached peace, well that'd likely inspire the Israelis to elect someone sane. Instead : The PLO/PA's leadership focusses more upon their own bank accounts. Hamas' are a bunch of religious psychopaths. Israel's right wing are equally psychopathic. And Israel's moderate politicians cannot retain power without acquiescing to the right.

The wall is helping though.

Re:Welcome Back... (2)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691862)

Palestinians hadn't thrown their hat in with their Arab neighbors during the 6 day war...then Israel wouldn't need to have war criminals?

"Throwing their hat in" meaning what? Fleeing their homes because they didn't want to get caught in a war?

Re:Welcome Back... (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691530)

If this wasn't 1984's definition of "permanent war" then there would be a good guy and bad guy to pick from. This is only Slashworthy because it pulls in Facebook and we've got a SlowNewsDay in effect.

Re:Welcome Back... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691576)

war criminals := wealthy terrorist
terrorist := poor war criminal

Re:Welcome Back... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691624)

Israel doesn't commit crimes against humanity. Their actions never rise above the level of self-defense. Any advocacy of the so-called "Palestinian cause" is nothing but advocacy of genocide of Jews. The whole cause was manufactured by the Russians during the Cold War to counteract the US influence in the east Asia. Arabs in Israel enjoy more civil rights and a higher standard of living than the Arabs living in West Bank and Gaza. Israel's parliament has Arab members. Palestinian parliament has not Jewish members. In fact Palestinian government is one of the more repressive Arab regimes. Honestly, I am really tired of people trying to equate murder to something like building of houses. People who make such an equivalence must be recognized for what they are: supporters of genocide.

Re:Welcome Back... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691656)

Straight from Israel's Ministry of Truth.. Copy/pasta propaganda...

Re:Welcome Back... (1)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691708)

yeh, because the Israelis never kicked Arabs or Bedouin off their land at all. As has been said, copy/pasta propaganda.

Re:Welcome Back... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691912)

No, they have not kicked Bedoins off their land. They have displaced arabs in WARS. Winning wars, especially defensive wars, is not genocide. It's not even close. Oh, and congratulations! You have just supported mass murder. Go look in the mirror. Yep, that's the mug of a person smirking about genocide.

Re:Welcome Back... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691736)

Arabs in Israel enjoy more civil rights and a higher standard of living than the Arabs living in West Bank and Gaza.

No sh*t, few people in the world live as poorly as those who live in Israel's gutters. The ones you let vote are a minority to those of your specific religion that you've imported from around the world. Even refusing to extradite wanted criminals of Jewish decent who manages to make it 'home'.

If Isreal gave up the "if you're Jewish you're a citizen", and started repatriating Palestinians it might just gain a little credibility. Instead, you'all are locked in a police state mentality. You just can't 'store' the Palestinians in a ghetto, they get pissy and angry, would you if you were in their place? Most of the were born there. It's like a society of angry kids you've got locked in your basement. Maybe there is some way you can come up with a final solution. You've got walls, all you're missing are some ovens.

Re:Welcome Back... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691822)

and israelis taking palestinian lands and killed human right protesters without worries. so much for humanities..

Re:Welcome Back... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691872)

Carry on with your genocide of the Palestinians, kike.

It's funny how Jews can participate in a genocide, while using a failed genocide as being not only the excuse, but the reason why their genocide is necessary.

I guess Jews just can't help themselves from stealing land and water...

Re:Welcome Back... (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691804)

More Gorillas or whatever they call them now a-days.. insurgents? I don't think Israel is alone in it's share of war criminals, or lack of them being held account.

I don't think anyone who is currently in power can be tried for war crimes. Also apparently putting a bomb on a plain is totally off, putting a bomb in a school full of kids or what-have-you is a-ok in my book, however running around with a Gun in a school full of kids is also well off the mark, as is fondeling people... unless their about to get on a plain, you a doctor or a priest.

all very confusing.

thank God the internet isn't a human right.

Re:Welcome Back... (1)

mfh (56) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691816)

From the article:

"While the Page was pulled eventually, Klayman believes it was not done quickly enough"

I just don't think someone could win a Billion dollars because someone else was too slow at their job. Seriously. Maybe a million? But a billion? Nah that's going to be thrown out pretty quick or Facebook will settle out at a much reduced price. If Facebook settles, they will open the door to future lawsuits and also scams so they actually can't settle here. They would have to go to court over it and that will also hurt their valuation, even if they win. Good thing they are a privately company and not on the stock market.

Jews Took the dropdown box and Palestinian rights (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691560)

Look at the scheming Jew as he shows his true colors.

Jew rats aren't content with stealing Palestinian land and water. They want to make sure that their genocide against Arabs is a secret as possible. This is why the Jew wants to control Facebook, and why they stole Slashdot's April Fool dropdown box.

Only a kike would sue Facebook for the fact-based content produced by one of its users.

Fooled you! (-1, Offtopic)

MrMista_B (891430) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691418)

April fools! This story is totally fake!

Isn't it?

April fools!

Re:Fooled you! (0)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691426)

Nope, the April Fools joke stories were all marked with the fill-in-your-own-word combo boxes. We're now past 8pm ET which means it's past Midnight GMT and we're into April 2nd in GMT and half the world. They really should program the site for the East Coast USA audience because that's where the most Slashdotters actually live, but they're geeks in love with GMT.

Re:Fooled you! (1)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691436)

WOOSH

Re:Fooled you! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691452)

They really should program the site for the East Coast USA audience because that's where the most Slashdotters actually live...

[citation needed]

Re:Fooled you! (0)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691486)

There's no multi-lingual version of Slashdot... so for the first part we have to exclude all of the world that doesn't speak English.

Now, where's the population? Australia's big, but it's mostly unpopulated Outback areas. The UK is a densely populated, but comparatively small island. Most Canadians (even some of those who speak French) speak English, but they're due north of the USA so their time zones are mostly in sync with ours.

Now, let's look at the US distribution. Maine is so far East that the entire state belongs in the "Atlantic" time zone that Canada has, but we lump it in with the US Eastern time zone. There are many of the most historic cities in the East Coast area, and the Eastern Time zone extends far West, and Central time is just one hour off.

California? Important, but it doesn't bring much with it. Las Vegas isn't interested in tech when there isn't a tech convention in town. Redmond might care, but they can respond just 3 hours late to "prime time" stories.

It's the way TV is done, and it's the way Slashdot should be too. GMT is a geek time standard left over from Unix days, but what system in the world still displays the GMT time to a user rather than the local time? And the local time of more USA/Canada population than any other is Eastern Time.

Re:Fooled you! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691550)

There's no multi-lingual version of Slashdot... so for the first part we have to exclude all of the world that doesn't speak English.

Huh? You know we do speak English even in non-native-English speaking parts of the world, especially those of us in Slashdot's target group. (i.e. geeks)
(Posted anonymously because I've already moderated in this thread)

Re:Fooled you! (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691476)

They really should program the site for the East Coast USA audience because that's where the most Slashdotters actually live,

your hypothesis is not only 'out of ass' grade, but also incorrect.

Re:Fooled you! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691516)

Tell us then, what country do you suppose has more Slashdot readers than America?

Re:Fooled you! (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691538)

are you aware that something being 'more' than something else, does not necessitate acting on that extra amount ? what if the 'more' is just 2% more than world total, OR, maybe even the next statistical figure ?

percentages matter.

give us percentages.

Re:Fooled you! (1)

IgnitusBoyone (840214) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691642)

So um, maybe I just read your post wrong but does not abs(X) > abs(Y) such that abs(X)+abs(Y)= 1.0 imply X = most. I mean it has to be at least over half. I base this off your statement "2% more than the world total". So, since obviously a subset of a whole can not be larger then the whole I assumed you meant 2% larger then all other countries combined.

Re:Fooled you! (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691966)

I call for an intifada against you and Unity100!

Death to Math Geeks!

Re:Fooled you! (1)

snowgirl (978879) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691478)

Nope, the April Fools joke stories were all marked with the fill-in-your-own-word combo boxes. We're now past 8pm ET which means it's past Midnight GMT and we're into April 2nd in GMT and half the world. They really should program the site for the East Coast USA audience because that's where the most Slashdotters actually live, but they're geeks in love with GMT.

Actually, they're not in love with GMT, they're in love with UTC...

Re:Fooled you! (1)

snowgirl (978879) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691500)

...but they're geeks in love with GMT.

No, they're geeks in love with UTC! [/pedantic]

Re:Fooled you! (1)

BitterOak (537666) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691976)

Nope, the April Fools joke stories were all marked with the fill-in-your-own-word combo boxes. We're now past 8pm ET which means it's past Midnight GMT and we're into April 2nd in GMT and half the world. They really should program the site for the East Coast USA audience because that's where the most Slashdotters actually live, but they're geeks in love with GMT.

If you read the actual complaint, you will see that it is indeed an April Fool's joke. Let me quote one particularly telling passage from the complaint,

As depicted in the award winning film “Social Network,” Defendant Zuckerberg in particular lacks strong ethical and moral character, having cheated his partners out of their shares and/or ownership in Facebook early on, for which he was forced to pay large settlements once sued.

No one would use a fictionalized Hollywood film to back up a claim as to the character of the defendant in a legal document submitted to the court. This is a joke folks. Let's move along.

Fail (3, Insightful)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691424)

This will be tossed out instantly. #1: Where does the amount come from? #2: This random idiot can't sue on behalf of "society" or whatever the hell he's doing. The government, or possibly victims if any violence did occur, would have to do that. #3: I'd bet the farm that there's no proof. #4: Is not blocking hate speech a crime/tort? I don't think so.

Re:Fail (2, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691444)

It's an attempt to apply Israeli values to the American Facebook site and that's just not going to stick in an American court, and an Israeli court has no nexus to force Facebook to care about its result. They should be happy the page was pulled and go home.

Re:Fail (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691496)

"It's an attempt to apply Israeli values to the American Facebook site and that's just not going to stick in an American court..."

Um, why not? Israel wouldn't and couldn't even continue to exist without the undying and enthusiastic support of the USA. It seems to have always been a case of 'What Israel wants, Israel gets'.

Now watch this post get down-modded into oblivion in record time.

Re:Fail (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691528)

So, taking a break from "Joos did 9/11" posts, are we?

Re:Fail (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691562)

So who were those guys in the white van?

Re:Fail (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691588)

When in doubt, make accusations of anti-Semitism.

Re:Fail (2, Insightful)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691638)

Um, why not? Israel wouldn't and couldn't even continue to exist without the undying and enthusiastic support of the USA

What makes you say that? They seemed to do quite fine for all those years we didnt support them.

You DO realize they are a first world country, with an incredible military, right? Id be interested to see in what way and for what reason you think they wouldnt "continue to exist" without our support (and what on earth makes you think our support has been "undying" historically).

Re:Fail (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691744)

"You DO realize they are a first world country, with an incredible military, right?"

Wonder if you realize this incredible military is supported by yearly hand-outs from the US...

Re:Fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691820)

What years were those that we didn't support them?

Re:Fail (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691896)

Go look at the position that f***g government takes when Israel is concerned, even with all their terrorist activities. You must be blind to make the statement?, YOU are a troll. Go read Noam Chomsky
http://www.chomsky.info/

Re:Fail (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691852)

It's an attempt to apply Israeli values to the American Facebook site and that's just not going to stick in an American court...

Yes it will. I don't like it any more than you do, but the Israeli government basically has its hand down the American government's pants.

Re:Fail (1)

stms (1132653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691472)

1: Where does the amount come from?

First they said one million dollars when everybody laughed at them for demanding such a tiny amount they said one billion dollars.

Re:Fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691494)

1. Law of large round numbers.
2. He's suing on his own behalf, as a Jew, since they did threaten to kill all the Jews.
3. Plenty of proof, liability is another matter.
4. The line between hate speech and inciting violence is a murky one, but if you want to read the pleading, it does try to make a case for a fear of assault.

Should this suit be tossed out? Who knows? Is Facebook run by some rather shady characters? Yes. Is the internet full of Fuckwads? Sadly yes.

Now I've got yet another reason to avoid Social Networks. As if I needed more.

Re:Fail (0)

b4upoo (166390) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691506)

Worse yet hate speech is frequently a very vague term. We had a local minister burning the Koran. That does not imply that he hates anyone at all. But in the minds of many Moslems they feel it is hate speech because the action offends them. Offending people does not mean that you hate them. I am reminded of that lunatic Baptist sect that turns up when soldiers lost in war funerals take place. Obviously they offend almost 100% of the population by troubling those funeral services. But they do not hate the dead soldiers nor do they hate the families of the dead soldiers. What they are against is paying attention to the dead instead of paying attention to Christ and they also try to point out that Christians may not take up arms. Yet the entire world sees them as a hate group. This stuff with special classes of people has simply gone too far. Maybe we should be telling our young never to take up arms for any reason. If it was good enough for Christ is it not good enough for all of us?

Re:Fail (-1, Offtopic)

bmo (77928) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691522)

>We had a local minister burning the Koran. That does not imply that he hates anyone at all.

Really? Honestly?

Then how about I go and burn a cross in front of your house, being careful to stay on public property and have a burn permit?

You're disingenuous

> But they do not hate the dead soldiers

Yes, they actually do.

>Yet the entire world sees them as a hate group.

That's because they are, troll.

Get out.

--
BMO

Re:Fail (0)

Obfuscant (592200) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691558)

Then how about I go and burn a cross in front of your house, being careful to stay on public property and have a burn permit?

The "in front of your house" bit takes it out of the generic statement of opinion category and well into the hate speech regime. Do it in your own backyard where you aren't making it clear it applies to someone specific and you'd get away with it scott free, other than for basic 'when can you burn things' laws.

Re:Fail (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691636)

meh - come burn a cross in front of my house - I'll bring marshmellows!
or some prayer scrolls
or a koran... (I never understood the worry about that - its just some paper with printing... we can print them BY THE MILLIONS if anyone wanted enough of them. Perhaps thats the way out of this mess - lets start printing korans and deliver them to the devout. Maybe 100,000 copies per person? Cheaper than cruise missiles! Could we make tank armor out of pristine copies? eg, you can't shoot at me, or let off an IED because you would damage the holy words)
or a cow - well, if you want to burn a cow, let me know ahead - I don't keep that much bbq sauce in stock
anything else you want to burn at my place?

Re:Fail (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691652)

> But they do not hate the dead soldiers

Yes, they actually do.

It would be kind of hard to prove that, as you could probably make a compelling argument that theyre really just litiguous trolls looking to countersue the first local government that tries to clamp down on them (as that IS what they do...).

Re:Fail (1)

tsm_sf (545316) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691598)

We had a local minister burning the Koran. That does not imply that he hates anyone at all.

Just literacy.

Re:Fail (1)

rohan972 (880586) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691600)

Maybe we should be telling our young never to take up arms for any reason. If it was good enough for Christ is it not good enough for all of us?

I suppose if Christ had advocated that no-one ever take up arms then Christians should consider that position authoritative. However:

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

So it is clear that if you are a Christian, you MUST believe that taking up arms is justified in some situations, else Christ was advocating sin.

Re:Fail (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691684)

Who's this guy "Luke"? And why should I believe him? I wanna see his press pass.

Re:Fail (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691882)

He was a groupie of that convicted criminal, Christ...

Re:Fail (1)

ncgnu08 (1307339) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691662)

While it doesn't change the point of your post, I believe you have the reason they are protesting the funerals wrong. And I also believe it goes against your point considering they have signs that read "God Hates You" which kind of makes me think they do hate. Of course we could be talking about different "crazy Baptist groups" after all; who knows how many of them are out there.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9102443/ns/us_news-life/ [msn.com]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church [wikipedia.org]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Supreme_Court/supreme-court-westboro-protests-military-funerals/story?id=13037219 [go.com]

Now I hate that I have even given them attention in this discussion...

Re:Fail (1)

JadeBuddha23 (1698600) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691508)

I worked with Larry Klayman for a while. He's exactly this kind of schmuck, and so painfully desperate to make a name for himself.

Re:Fail (1)

ainandil (1614503) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691542)

Sort of. Random idiots can sue on behalf of society (note the lawsuit referenced in paragraph 11 in the complaint) -- but stand a chance of winning only if they have a valid cause of action. In this case, Klayman alleges damages which can neither be substantiated nor proved: an excess of one billion dollars, compensatory and punitive, plus attorney's fees and costs, for assault and negligence. IMHO, the complaint is worth reading as a welcome respite from the inane attempts at humor we've seen here on /. the past day. Best part? Paragraphs 4 and 17, wherein Klayman references "The Social Network" in substantiating Zuckerberg's "questionable business and ethical practices."

Share and enjoy,

Ainandil

Damages? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691446)

What is he trying to be compensated for?
What a retard.
I'd like to sue Israel for having to hear them whine about their problems for my entire life.

Re:Damages? (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691454)

Most of the billion is punitive damages which basically wants to make an example of Facebook saying allowing anti-Israel speech should never be allowed. Kinda flies the the face of the US's 1st Amendment freedoms, but they have no such concept in Israel. Still, see my other post on the problems with picking a venue.

Re:Damages? (1)

ebs16 (1069862) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691534)

I'm a US / Israeli dual citizen. This lawsuit, and the types of people behind it, are an embarrassment. Stifling free speech goes against the values of both Israel and the United States -- and any other democratic society. These people definitely don't speak on behalf of their associated populations. (There's that old joke about there being 3 different opinions for every 2 Jews.) Furthermore, Facebook is not exactly a hotbed of intellectual activity. Why give these people any attention at all?

Re:Damages? (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691776)

Furthermore, Facebook is not exactly a hotbed of intellectual activity. Why give these people any attention at all?

You underestimate their (including Twitter's) value in spreading lies and propaganda, and of course advertising. The papers just reported that most of the traffic comes from very few users, many of them sockpuppets. And I would speculate more than a few bots. It's bright future ahead for this method of dispensing 'information'.

Come on, FFS (4, Insightful)

warp_kez (711090) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691450)

Enough already, they are not even funny to begin with. Seriously, April Fools is overrated and the domain of the inferior intellect.

Thought it was a joke at first (1)

jbrodkin (1054964) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691456)

oh we're posting real stories now? In all seriousness, this lawsuit is frivolous.

Re:Thought it was a joke at first (1)

benjamindees (441808) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691786)

So frivolous that it's kind of shocking that the founder of anything called "Freedom Watch" or "Judicial Watch" would be behind it.

April F.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691460)

April Fo.... April... What? You mean some nutjob is suing FB because someone posted something controversial? Not going to fly. Facebook didn't post the content, its not theirs. As the blurb says, the graphics and backend belong to FB, the comments and 99.99999999% of the content belongs to the people who posted it. Whole governments don't like some of what Facebook has on it, but they know better than try to sue.

I also support free speech.... (5, Insightful)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691464)

...except for people I disagree with.

"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."
-- H.L.Mencken

Re:I also support free speech.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691836)

Does the right of free speech override the right to life? A call to genocide is OK as long as the genocide is against somebody you don't like? If you go around urging the shooting of the President, or gays, or black activists or KKK members you will definitely get a visit from the law. One can say whatever one likes about Israel (or anybody else for that matter) and its politics and policies, but once that degenerates into calling for murdering people, an unacceptable line has been crossed.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

Why is this news? (1)

a_nonamiss (743253) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691466)

Anyone can sue anyone for any reason at any time. I could sue a random stranger in the grocery store for kidnapping the Lindbergh baby. If a verdict was awarded, this might actually mean something.

Re:Why is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691488)

What was it? Someone was suing a company because they had received a fake check stating that they could cash it for $30,000 or something and it was written by George Washington and they were able to go to court etc etc... The thing is that he thought he had the money so he bought a lot of stuff and then couldn't return it after he found out the check was fake and that's when he sued. As it turned out it was a chance to win a $30,000 check by participating in a drawing (similar to the ed mc mahon drawings) and it was written as such on the piece of paper that came with the check. epic fail and a waste of court time.

Re:Why is this news? (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691518)

But it involves Facebook, a famous Internet website company! IT COULD HAVE CHILLING EFFECTS FOR FREE SPEECH ONLINE.

Re:Why is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691654)

I think I will now do just that. Thanks.

Of course, if it doesnt work out, I will then sue you.

Re:Why is this news? (1)

a_nonamiss (743253) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691668)

Fine! Just go ahead and sue me! Everybody else does! The average settlement is $68,000.

It's the Jews (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691480)

This is another example of the Fundamentalist Christians fucking up World politics because of their mythology. If they didn't believe that Israel was going to save them from Hell, they would stop supporting the those land thieves.

Let's face it, the Arabs are pissed because the Jews took their land. And the Jews got it because Western Europe wanted them out of there.

"Yeah Jews, it sucked what the NAZIs did y'all. There's some land, take it, and now, GTFO!"

Yes ladies and gentlemen, all this horseshit in the World is in fact indirectly the Jews fault.

Yours,

Mel.

Re:It's the Jews (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691510)

I personally think all religions are to blame.
Any freak that belongs to any of the worlds cults does nothing but damage spreading their fairy tales.
They care more about their ridiculous stories than the lives of real humans.

Re:It's the Jews (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691666)

Yes, well, clearly Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were religious folks. Athiests cant be repressive, violent, or murderous, no sir.

Seriously, every time someone makes this claim I wonder if they were asleep through all of their history classes. The story of mankind is one of tyranny and violence whenever the opportunity presents itself.

Re:It's the Jews (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691532)

Can we please kill them all?

they arent any different. (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691554)

there is little genetic difference in between arabs and jews. actually, the people of that region are practically from the same semitic ancestry.

moreover, their culture is totally the same. judaism, islam, christianity are only minor branches. ALL of these build upon established (thousands of years ago, even before themselves) traditions and legends and beliefs of the region.

they are one people. but one thing you are right about is, they are indeed the source of all the problems of the world - their culture has been one of control of a single person claiming divine ancestry and belief, over all others, even before sumerians. it still goes on till this day, albeit there are more than one controllers now, in compliance with necessities of modern times.

Looks like our "anonymous" submitter (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691484)

Is pimping a ZDNet editorial (propaganda piece). Sure doesn't read like a regular news story.

Head in the Clouds (1)

Neuroelectronic (643221) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691492)

Would it be so hard to organize a group on somewhere other than Facebook? This is not the first time a large, controversial group was shutdown on Facebook.

The new cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691498)

Suing for a million dollars isn't cool. You know what's cool? Suing for a billion dollars.

Am i the only one spotting the irony that is (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691546)

This guy being the founder of the 'Freedom Watch' ? exactly whose freedom is he watching ?

Re:Am i the only one spotting the irony that is (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691566)

"Freedom Watch"? Isn't that the title of a Fox Business Network (the minor league farm club of Fox News Channel) which is hosted by a guy they call "judge" despite the fact his only experience in that role was the one-and-done season show "Power of Attorney" where used OJ Simpson lawyers argued "People's Court"/"Judge Judy" style cases.

Re:Am i the only one spotting the irony that is (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691956)

If you ignore the 7 years as a NJ Superior Court Judge, then yes that was his only experience. That would be just a little dishonest though.

Oh, no... (3, Funny)

telekon (185072) | more than 3 years ago | (#35691878)

Usually my allergy to stupid becomes more manageable around on Friday around 5pm Eastern... This just sent it flaring up again.

Fucktards will be fucktards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35691920)

For all the anti-free-speech "we need to limit free speech." Why not let them incriminate themselves in public? Doesn't that serve the public good? If someone is going to commit a murder they're going to do it.

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