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Creating the Software Art In Tron Legacy

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the hack-their-internets dept.

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hownottowrite writes "A software artist has posted an overview of the coding behind the tools used to create Tron Legacy's special effects. 'In Tron, the hacker was not supposed to be snooping around on a network; he was supposed to kill a process. So we went with posix kill and also had him pipe ps into grep. I also ended up using emacs eshell to make the terminal more l33t. The team was delighted to see my emacs performance — splitting the editor into nested panes and running different modes. I was tickled that I got emacs into a block buster movie.' Ok, it's mostly a lot of awesome images, but there's a nifty reveal about an homage to Bit."

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Zero comments and the site is still slashed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716420)

Looks like we're going to have to wait for a reboot. Good thing there's Daft Punk playing...

Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716422)

Most likely, in the future a project of that magnitude would not be running on cobbled together free software.

Re:Windows (2)

RobbieCrash (834439) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716556)

Aside from the fact that Encom is/was a free software company.

So emacs was in a blockbuster movie (0)

Anubis IV (1279820) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716470)

And yet, this will change nothing. The argument goes on.

Re:So emacs was in a blockbuster movie (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716502)

You're exactly right. It doesn't change how bad emacs is.

Re:So emacs was in a blockbuster movie (2)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717868)

Hey, at least it doesn't make me enter a new mode to start editing text - you know, the 'delete everything' mode instead of the other one, 'beep constantly'

Re:So emacs was in a blockbuster movie (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716576)

Well, it does prove one thing. In the future, humans will have evolved more hands so that they can actually USE emacs.

Re:So emacs was in a blockbuster movie (1)

bmo (77928) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716684)

No, we won't evolve them, we'll build them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkyZGZRnQb4 [youtube.com]

Perfect for emacs.

--
BMO

Re:So emacs was in a blockbuster movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35717796)

I type like that with 10 fingers. Errorlevel 2%.

Imagine the volumes I could write with such hands. If only I had something worthwhile to say...

Re:So emacs was in a blockbuster movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35718068)

I type like that with 10 fingers. Errorlevel 2%.

Imagine the volumes I could write with such hands. If only I had something worthwhile to say...

Not all of us are Pandas you insensitive clod!

Re:So emacs was in a blockbuster movie (3, Interesting)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716588)

Who cares. The Net showed off Jasik's Debugger!

Re:So emacs was in a blockbuster movie (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716930)

If emacs had ctrl alt shift meta laserbeam I'd switch. :laser is too clunky.

TRON needed more TRON (3, Insightful)

bpgslashdotaccount (1221626) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716472)

Can't post anything intelligent about the article, (MCP seems to have locked me out), so I'll say something about the movie: I mostly loved it, but it needed more TRON. He should have been a much more important character. Users' sake, his name is half of the movie title!

Re:TRON needed more TRON (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716532)

It needed a more artificial environment too. Since when did the digital world come to look like ours without the color? The cool thing about Tron 1 was the pure fantasy of it all.

Re:TRON needed more TRON (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35717440)

This. Also the story in Legacy was crap. Then again the story in the original Tron wasn't all that hot, but it was much more acceptable because it took place in the fantastic world of the original.

I'm ignoring Legacy and choosing to retain Tron 2.0 as the true, canon sequel.

Re:TRON needed more TRON (1)

Rizimar (1986164) | more than 3 years ago | (#35721492)

I understand that the User gets sucked into the machine and is experiencing everything from the inside, but I'd argue that it's similar to how cyberspace was depicted 30+ years ago in stories like William Gibson's Neuromancer or Vernor Vinge's True Names: here, cyberspace was a heavy flow of data that was given imagery by the human mind to identify it through abstraction.

For example, in True Names, the equivalent of a login screen becomes a tame dragon that asks specific questions and notices if you move in particular ways. It only becomes hostile if you do something incorrectly. Yet nothing in the code suggests the image of a dragon (or the image of anything for that matter); that's all invented by the human's mind based on the behavior and function of that code.

I imagine that this is what happens in Tron as well. Dots on the screen become lightcycles. Processes that want to detect and terminate the users become hostile enemies. Maybe even CLU's personality was an interpretation of the mind.

Re:TRON needed more TRON (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716834)

That's pretty pointless reasoning.... Lord of the Rings featured about no screen time for the Lord of the Rings but really has no effect on the quality of the movie.
(That stupid eye doesn't count)

Re:TRON needed more TRON (1)

xenn (148389) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716974)

Yeah about the quality of that movie,

character moves from a to b encounters c, moves from d to e encounters f, etc... ad nauseum.

how does the substance of this movie compare?

Re:TRON needed more TRON (1)

Score Whore (32328) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717076)

You forgot the gay elves.

Re:TRON needed more TRON (1)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717278)

Blame Chris Vogler and Robert McKee.

Re:TRON needed more TRON (-1, Offtopic)

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Re:TRON needed more TRON (2)

bonch (38532) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717234)

The teasers for the next Tron film indicate Alan Bradley will play a larger role, and Encom employees have even apparently nicknamed him "Tron," so in a way, Tron will get more screen time.

Re:TRON needed more TRON (1)

troff (529250) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717614)

So, in Legacy, Programs have hair and skin texture, don't have any processing purpose or interaction with their original Users. The Cycles have Engines and need to be "on the Grid" for their power; the fact that in the original movie they did things that were physically impossible was missed to make them "more realistic" for Legacy.

So, you're saying that in spite of the fact that Kitsis and Horowitz took the unworldly, non-physical, utterly different TRON universe and turned it into Generic Disney Fantasy Fodder Universe #12B WASN'T ENOUGH... and that now "TRON" will just be a person's nickname.

Just when I thought Disney, Kitsis and Horowitz couldn't COMPLETELY 0xFFFF up "TRON" anymore. Pricks.

Syd Mead ws in my hometown on tour last year. I asked what he thought of the upcoming movie. His reply amounted to "Disney have very good lawyers". What a crying shame Lisberger went along with this. I wonder what Bonnie MacBird thought of it all.

Re:TRON needed more TRON (1)

halivar (535827) | more than 3 years ago | (#35719418)

It's a constructed digital reality with whatever rules Flynn put into it. It is the way it is because the Users coded it that way. Flynn coded it with physics, and gave programs hair and makeup. Anything other than 1's and 0's on the screen is going to require some suspension of disbelief.

THIS MOVIE WAS TOTALLY UNREALISTIC! (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 3 years ago | (#35720046)

not enough 1's and 0's.

And certainly never enough screw-sorting [modernhumorist.com] !

Re:TRON needed more TRON (1)

An ominous Cow art (320322) | more than 3 years ago | (#35719748)

Just when I thought Disney, Kitsis and Horowitz couldn't COMPLETELY 0xFFFF up "TRON" anymore. Pricks.

This comment, combined with your username, made me laugh this morning. :-)

Re:TRON needed more TRON (1)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717262)

It needed a lot more programs and a lot less monomyth. I found the grid a lot more interesting than the "hero's journey."

Re:TRON needed more TRON (2)

Digital Vomit (891734) | more than 3 years ago | (#35718804)

TRON: Legacy should have had a lot of things. It should have had more lightcycle action. It should have had some Recognizer action. It should have had some tank action. It should have had sets that looked like they were from a computer world and less like the real world. It should have had the feel of a computer world instead of just a futuristic world. It should have had a good story.

It should have had a lot of things.

Twenty-eight fucking years...

Re:TRON needed more TRON (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35719984)

Agreed, they did TRON: Legacy wrong. They screwed it up, through and through.

This seems to be related to Disney's decision to suspend all rentals and sales of the original TRON for a few months before the release. They were afraid people would go rent the original, dislike it, and not want to see the sequel.

You see....TRON: Legacy was aiming for a different, LARGER target audience. They didn't want to appease the computer-geeks who liked the computer-geekiness of TRON. They wanted to hit a normal audience of normal people who just like surreal special effects and the hero's journey. That is a much larger group, meaning much more money. They just picked TRON because everything else they could think of had already been done to death.

So...TRON 2 was not made for people who liked TRON. It was specifically made for the sort of person who would dislike TRON. Crazy.

uh oh, talking out of channels (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716526)

Stallman and the FSF may now insist that the movie be released on DVD as GNU/Tron Legacy.

Re:uh oh, talking out of channels (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716564)

Stallman and the FSF may now insist that the movie be released on DVD as GNU/Tron Legacy.

Source-code as well.

Re:uh oh, talking out of channels (0)

xenn (148389) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717000)

that's really a truly great idea.

very few musicians have even tackled 5.1+ surround audio, let alone release each track as a bunch of separate mixable objects (ie bassline, drum track, or vocals as an individual sound file or track)

that's how I intend, and I expect DJ culture to lap it up.

It will take time, but before too long it will be defacto in the 'live' scene.

Re:uh oh, talking out of channels (1)

manicb (1633645) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717826)

Might want to look at this [nin.com] . They've put up multi-tracks for the last three albums.

Re:uh oh, talking out of channels (1)

Ex Machina (10710) | more than 3 years ago | (#35721456)

DVD? With DRM? Stallman?

So EMACS is used in a feature film... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716544)

...but can it edit text yet?

Re:So EMACS is used in a feature film... (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716606)

...but can it edit text yet?

Well... yes... sort-of [emacswiki.org] . But why go with key-emulation when you can have the real thing?

(grin)

Proving that incredible visuals cannor overcome (1, Insightful)

assemblerex (1275164) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716582)

poor, shallow storytelling.

Re:Proving that incredible visuals cannor overcome (0)

Tragek (772040) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716662)

or the obvious lack of a story editor...

Re:Proving that incredible visuals cannor overcome (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716848)

But at least they had a text editor!

...

That can play Tetris!

Re:Proving that incredible visuals cannor overcome (1)

troff (529250) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717554)

... and still tried to log in with a "backdoor".

Re:Proving that incredible visuals cannor overcome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35717692)

Mr potato head! Mr potato head! Backdoors are not secrets!

Re:Proving that incredible visuals cannor overcome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35718902)

assuming you call EMACS a text editor

Re:Proving that incredible visuals cannor overcome (1)

internettoughguy (1478741) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717140)

In Hollywood blockbusters the visual effects are usually the most artistic, original and inventive part of the film. Usually that means the making of is far more interesting than the final product.

Re:Proving that incredible visuals cannor overcome (0)

troff (529250) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717538)

I wish that was globally true; but the majority of people seem to disagree. Worse, a majority of that majority most likely hasn't seen the original.
I've been on a number of fora discussing the movie. When I point out the plot holes or the superior writing of the original (and no, I'm not being sarcastic, yes I know it was an effects-driven movie), I've seen responses that include "come on, you have to cut them some slack, no it was really good, how sad it must be in your world if you think Legacy was bad, could you do better"... in spite of the fact I'm not being paid to do so (and in spite of that, I still think I could indeed do better.
I swear, I can't tell if these are too-young and illiterate, critical-thinking incapable idiots or Disney astroturfers.
Would it be possible to fork an Open Source TRON? Write a version with new characters and strip out all the Disney trademarks so those bastards couldn't sue when the community puts out something better than those sad hack writers Horowitz and Kitsis?

Re:Proving that incredible visuals cannor overcome (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 3 years ago | (#35720134)

Maybe we can get those guys that did Star Wreck interested, after they're done with their space Nazis film.

Ubuntu '86 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716598)

I was more interested in that old ass computer that has been sitting in storage since the 80's was running Ubuntu.

Re:Ubuntu '86 (1)

Stupendoussteve (891822) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716656)

It was running "SolarOS"

Re:Ubuntu '86 (1)

wagnerrp (1305589) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716812)

While I do see the GNU blend of 'top', various programs associated with the Linux kernel, and the 'Xorg' server that was not released until 2004, I don't see anything to distinguish from one blend of Linux to the next, unless are you making the incorrect assumption that all Linux is a blend of Ubuntu? I would be more impressed about that old ass computer that has been sitting in storage since the 80's had 2GB of memory.

Re:Ubuntu '86 (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717208)

In the theaters I laughed when he ran top and I saw XOrg running from the 1986 computer. HA.

Try running that on a machine from 2004 and see how much resources it eats up.

Real men edit with vi (2)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716622)

I spit on your keyboard, noov ctrl-x ctrl-x ctrl-i b ctrl-dd...awe, damnit...

Re:Real men edit with vi (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716862)

You're just setting yourself up for defeat [xkcd.com] . In the end, feature bloat always wins.

Re:Real men edit with vi (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717608)

Real men write binaries with copy con.

Legacy (1)

Dragon_Punch (1899538) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716628)

Legacy will never be as good as the orignal. It looks spectacular but, i coulnd't care less about it.

Keyboard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716638)

It's funny how that onscreen keyboard for use with emacs completely lacks a control key. But it does have caps lock, so I guess it could just be remapped.

REAL MEN USE EMACS (1)

snizzle (1879832) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716722)

meta-x move-one-character-to-the-right ...... excellent (rub finger tips together) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKUOB8MN4Kc [youtube.com]

Re:REAL MEN USE EMACS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716942)

Emacs is the editor for the Cult of Stallman.

Intelligent people use vi.

Re:REAL MEN USE EMACS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35717078)

Wrong. Linus Torvalds, hardly a Stallman cult member, is an emacs user.

  In my experience, emacs is preferred by programmers, and vi by sysadmins.

Re:REAL MEN USE EMACS (1)

xenn (148389) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717142)

please to explain

I know somebody... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716762)

... who used emacs.

I knew somebody... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35718178)

... who used emacs.

He later lost his mind, gluing paper letters to himself in a latex suit, running around throwing paper letters at people.
He was then hit by a bus.
Sadly the curse lives on. It will consume more people.

Emacs: The demon program.
Coming soon to a theatre near you!
Dedicated to Richard. 2011/05/11-2011/05/11

sun4m i386 (0)

cb88 (1410145) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716790)

...I was disappointed it didn't say SPARC... very disappointed especially after sun4m got my hopes all up..

Barely on topic: pkill/pgrep (2)

bipbop (1144919) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716866)

ps | grep? I've been happy since pgrep was added (to Solaris first, but then reimplemented on Linux and FreeBSD/NetBSD). I thought I'd mention it here in case some people reading haven't run into it yet, 'cause even though it's a pretty minor thing, it's neat :-)

Re:Barely on topic: pkill/pgrep (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35717578)

Huh, never knew about pgrep and pkill. Thanks for the heads-up.

Re:Barely on topic: pkill/pgrep (1)

Lord Bitman (95493) | more than 3 years ago | (#35718670)

pgrep doesn't give me enough context for my taste.
I will almost always prefer "ps | grep", as it gives me a chance to confirm that the pid I'm looking at is the pid I want to kill.

Interesting Tie-In (4, Informative)

Mister Transistor (259842) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716872)

Since there is nothing to see here I've got an interesting Tron story. I must have watched the original at least 25-30 times through the years, I own a 12" laserdisc and DVD's of it, and never really noticed before, but after re-watching it on TV the other day due to sheer boredom, I finally noticed a name at the end credits I never recognized before - Peter Jurasik. It suddenly dawned on me that was the actor who played Londo Molari on Babylon 5 - you know, the Centauri ambassador with the Peacock / Bozo hair. I tried to think of who it was in the movie, and realized it's the accounting /actuarial program that gets imprisoned at the beginning along with ROM? CROM?. He says of the MCP - "Who does he calculate he is, anyway?". That's him! Just thought I'd share that bit of trivia with everyone.

Re:Interesting Tie-In (1)

blincoln (592401) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717402)

The Bit was also voiced by the same actor who did the voiceover work for Kosh, and of course there's the Bruce Boxleitner and David Warner connections too.

Re:Interesting Tie-In (2)

pacbowl (1653493) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717416)

IMDB actually has some interesting trivia about TRON. Such as the random pulses in the light ribbons on the background walls were glitches in the effects so they added sound to them and incorporated them into the world.

Re:Interesting Tie-In (2)

sparkz (146432) | more than 3 years ago | (#35718678)

Don't keep us waiting - what's the interesting story? ;-)

Anyone catch the output of uname? (4, Interesting)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716922)

Well, now everyone will copy and paste the output from the DVD, but I saw it in the theatre.

And I saw Flynn key in "uname -a" and I tried to parse the listing for interesthing things.

Alas, all I caught as the OS was named "SolarOS" and the arch was "sun4m". A tribute to ye olde SunOS, I guess (SunOS/sparc).

Though, I'd love that nice popup history window...

Re:Anyone catch the output of uname? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35717926)

Since noone seems to actually do it, here you go:

$ whoami
Flynn
$ uname -a
SolarOS 4.0.1 Generic_50203-02 sun4m i386
Unknown.Unknown
$ login -n root
Login incorrect
login: backdoor
No home directory specified in password file!
Logging in with home=/
# bin/history
488 cd /opt/LLL/controller/laser/
489 vi LLSDLaserControl.c
490 make
491 make install
492 ./sanity_check
493 ./configure -o test.cfg
494 vi test.cfg
495 vi ~/last_will_and_testament.txt
496 cat /proc/meminfo
497 ps -a -x -u
498 kill -9 2207
499 kill 2208
500 ps -a -x -u
501 touch /opt/LLL/run/ok
502 LLSDLaserControl -ok 1

And of course he straight goes to running it, instead of cat'ing the testament, or actually checking what it does ..
# bin/LLSDLaserControl -ok 1

Re:Anyone catch the output of uname? (2)

troff (529250) | more than 3 years ago | (#35718184)

(The following is a meta-post, with only the hint of a threat of a future on-topic posting.)

I don't know who's downvoting all these comments. I appreciate the "informative" and "humorous" nature of this.

Fine, mods. Downvote me, I don't give a flying. It'll just prove the point; there's a lot of downvoting of perfectly reasonable comments and criticisms here. Parent AC is right, it was stupid to run a program without even trying to know what it does. ... I'd include a further criticism of the movie's poor writing and handling of Flynn even HAVING the laser in his basement, but the last criticism I posted of the writers got a 0 and I wouldn't be surprised to see it dropped further. Sheesh. It's like being on ${other_fora_I_won't_name}.

Re:Anyone catch the output of uname? (1)

hey! (33014) | more than 3 years ago | (#35718414)

But wasn't SunOS pre-Solaris a BSD varoamt? The screen cap clearly shows "ps -ef" being piped to grep; that's East Coast style (SysV). Back in the day when we were two coasts divided by a common operating system, the hippie Bezerkley hackers would have typed "ps axu". So I guess that "SolarOS" is just the movie world's version of Solaris.

And people claim serious cinema is *inaccessible*.

Re:Anyone catch the output of uname? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35718484)

East coast style? I bet you've never had sex once in your fucking life.

Re:Anyone catch the output of uname? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35718668)

But wasn't SunOS pre-Solaris a BSD varoamt?

SunOS4 is based on BSD (4.3 and 4.4 for the latest versions like 4.1.4 IIRC.) SunOS5 is based on SVR5. Solaris 1.x is SunOS4 with OpenWindows. Solaris 2.x is SunOS5 with CDE or GNOME. SunOS5 systems with a full install have a full set of BSD userland tools for backwards compatibility, unless they stopped that.

Re:Anyone catch the output of uname? (1)

sparkz (146432) | more than 3 years ago | (#35718698)

SunOS is the kernel of the old and current Sun operating system. The Solaris Operating Environment includes the SunOS kernel. Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.10 Generic January 2005

not the first time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35716968)

Emacs and KDE (2.x and 3.x, iirc) featured prominently in Zuckerberg's systems on The Social Network.

Processing community? (1)

sapphire wyvern (1153271) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716982)

Can anyone comment on what the blog post author means by the "Processing" community? What's he talking about?

Re:Processing community? (3, Informative)

Haven (34895) | more than 3 years ago | (#35716990)

Processing is a set of libraries that I think use Java to do "creative coding"

lots of generative art is made with "Processing"

I do a lot of work with openframeworks, which was also used along with cinder and houdini.

check out my work @ http://university-records.com/ [university-records.com]

Re:Processing community? (1)

sapphire wyvern (1153271) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717248)

Cool, thanks. Very informative.

Re:Processing community? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35718386)

There is also the JavaScript version of Processing that works with Canvas.

Processing JS [processingjs.org]

I remember making screensavers with stuff similar to this.
One being a simple set of triangles moving around on screen, to more advanced large-sided polygons spawning other polygons.
Evolutionary Processing is really fun to play around with as well.

I really need to put some of this code up somewhere one day. Maybe with Processing JS, first versions were on YaBASIC on PS2.

Emacs (1)

Mike610544 (578872) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717074)

I was tickled that I got emacs into a block buster movie.

Always good to see Emacs getting some screen time.

I'm reminded of the line from The Social Network "It's definitely necessary to break out emacs and modify that perl script." Anyone who's done screen scraping could totally relate to that sequence (PHP and redirects ... I'll come back to that one) but I imagine even regular people can subconsciously detect the difference between realistic computer stuff and "I'm going to virtualize an inverse Java applet to localize the virus!"

Re:Emacs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35719052)

I was more surprised to finally see one of the two people who actually use emacs. ;)

Interesting writeup (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35717148)

Not mine, but I thought the speculation about how a virtual world would work to be quite interesting....

http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/thoughts-on-tron-legacy/

Mirror? (1)

subk (551165) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717226)

TFA is totally slashdotted..

An editor in a movie! (1)

Dieppe (668614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717338)

Bah, who needs emacs! I'll stick with vi anyday! :wq

www.jtnimoy.net works - jtnimoy.net doesn't (1)

newtbrick (799007) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717362)

I don't think it counts as a slashdot if the editors link the site wrong. Furthermore, it looks like the images are hosted at amazon web services. So I think the site (when linked to properly) will handle the traffic just fine.

Re:www.jtnimoy.net works - jtnimoy.net doesn't (1)

jtnimoy (698775) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717660)

it counts as a slashdot in my books ;) but i think reddit and gizmodo had my server knocked out before /. posted. i just spent an evening migrating the site to a better server, and I did end up moving the images to s3 less than a day ago. also, my php had been calling getimagesize() on all the images to generate html width,height attributes, and that tron page has like 20 mb of jpgs on it. the `www' subdomain and the regular DNS should both work now .. at least it has already propagated to where I am. it was totally my bad for not predicting the spike. i will never call getimagesize() again without caching it.

Re:www.jtnimoy.net works - jtnimoy.net doesn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35718530)

Well I am glad you went through all the effort as it was certainly interesting. You should have seen my girlfriends reaction to my own excitement at the fact that they were using legitimate Unix commands in the movie.

Re:www.jtnimoy.net works - jtnimoy.net doesn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35718686)

But did jtnimoy.net suffer the slashdot effect? After all, no one knows what causes the slashdot effect, since no one here reads the article. We could learn a lot about the metaphysical nature of the effect if we can determine whether it works when the link in the slashdot summary is misspelled.

It's about time... (1)

sir1real (1636849) | more than 3 years ago | (#35717802)

...someone did it right. Now somebody needs to go back and digitally alter the original film so that Flynn is entering legitimate Unix commands into the terminal instead of the made up BS they put in there.

Re:It's about time... (1)

cstacy (534252) | more than 3 years ago | (#35718792)

...someone did it right. Now somebody needs to go back and digitally alter the original film so that Flynn is entering legitimate Unix commands into the terminal instead of the made up BS they put in there.

Flynn SIGKILL'd first.

Door code unlocker app for N8 used in Tron Legacy (1)

BITIMPRESS (1671896) | more than 3 years ago | (#35718816)

Hi,

We write apps for Nokia Symbian phones and publish them on Ovi Store:
http://store.ovi.com/publisher/BITIMPRESS/ [ovi.com]

After liking Tron Legacy alot we wrote a screensaver which mimics the behaviour of the door code unlocker app Flynn is using:
here is a video of our app in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FhvPpIF_zM [youtube.com]

here is the Tron Legacy trailer where the N8 is used to unlock the door (Nokia product placement), starts around 0:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkFErfVoBW0 [youtube.com]

You can get our app for free on Ovi Store:
http://store.ovi.com/content/99490 [ovi.com]

(the Ovi Store link does not work yet on N8 and other Symbian^3 phones since the Symbian^3 app is currently in Nokia QA so it should be up in a few days).
You can download it directly too (on the N8 too) from our site:
http://apps.bitimpress.com/codeunlocker_installer.sis [bitimpress.com]

The app is enjoying quite nice success, several thousand downloads per day, last peak was 16k per day :)

PS: if any of the Tron creators read this, how was the original footage created ? The N8 just playing a video of the code unlocking sequence or was it a custom app written for the N8 ?

thanks,
BitImpress
http://www.bitimpress.com/ [bitimpress.com]

Re:Door code unlocker app for N8 used in Tron Lega (1)

RobbieThe1st (1977364) | more than 3 years ago | (#35720058)

Nice! Now all we need is a port for the N900... Or better yet, hook it into John or a wep-cracker; Make something both cool -and- useful!

All joking aside, cudos to you guys for creating - and releasing for free - something as cool as that. Good work!

Extremely easy movie to make (0)

Bardwick (696376) | more than 3 years ago | (#35719750)

Take the Matrix and some Star Trek movies, put them in a blender, done. There was nothing new in this movie.

You can tell the movie Tron is fiction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35720714)

...because if it was real then they would have used vi. I mean who uses emacs?

Soft-Core CPUs and TRON (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 3 years ago | (#35721122)

I saw Tron: Legacy in theatres long before my current project which involves loading CPU images into an FPGA bank and running software on top of that.

Though I've always wondered how that would translate to the TRON world - after all, I can take down the soft-CPU (it's an ARM core) with a click of a button, reload it with another ARM code (and peripherals) with another click, etc.

Always wondered how that would translate. (And while I don't load Linux on them, others apparently do load Linux on them as well).

Yeah, it makes no sense, but sometimes it's fun to consider what happens.

How to Duplicate that Interface (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35721464)

Slightly off-topic, but otherwise related - I would be interested in if there is any way, in real life, to duplicate the interface with the terminal and the touch keyboard...

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