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Gaming Is the Most Popular Use For Tablets

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the only-because-nobody-admitted-to-tablet-porn dept.

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The Guardian's Games blog reports on a survey from Google's Admob, which found that more people use tablets for gaming than for any other purpose, even viewing news or email. Quoting: "According to the survey (PDF), 84% of tablet owners play games, ahead of even searching for information (78%), emailing (74%) and reading the news (61%). 56% of tablet owners use social networking services on their device, while 51% consume music and/or videos, and 46% read ebooks. ... The survey found that 38% of respondents spend more than two hours a day using their tablets, while another 30% spend 1-2 hours. It appears that tablets are predominantly domestic devices, with 82% of people primarily using their tablets at home, versus 11% who say they are used primarily on the go, and 7% who said at work. 28% of respondents say their tablet is now their primary computer, while 43% say they spend more time using their tablet than they do their desktop or laptop computer."

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Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765276)

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My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (2, Insightful)

Senes (928228) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765278)

Step 1: make some affordable accessories to comfortably set up a tablet as if it were a PC monitor; keyboard, speakers, etc.

Step 2: start marketing parts instead of finished products only so it isn't an entire industry of iMacs. Let people build their own.

Step 3: open things up and give people more control over what they do with their devices; if you buy it you get to decide how it's used.

Boom, tablets are the new PCs. Not a replacement, simply an evolution out of the old form. Until all this happens they'll still just be a gimmicky toy that some people happen to spend a lot of time on. Make these things happen and you'll see business tablets as well.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765330)

Then though, all you have is a PC with a small screen that happens to be portable...

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765384)

It's also lower in power. But people make their choices; if a tablet *can* step in entirely as a PC then there will be some people who can only get one and would rather have the tablet.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765426)

Who says they couldn't have docks?

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765702)

Steve Jobs, at least not until he decides when the iDock iX can be the next big thing.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (4, Insightful)

DurendalMac (736637) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765432)

1. Those are afterthoughts. Tablets aren't designed to replace desktops. They're meant to be highly portable and quick to use.

2. Um, how do you plan on building a tablet? Laptop kits are hard enough to find. Do you really think you could self-assemble a tablet as slim and light as an iPad? I just don't see it happening. Furthermore, rolling your own tablet will do jack shit for business market share.

3. Android already does this, but has diddly in tablet market share in business or otherwise. Businesses don't really give a damn if it's open or not as long as it can talk to their network, servers, etc and they can load their own custom apps into it, which just about any tablet (iPad included) can.

Those gimmicky toys are selling by the millions per month. Apple can't build the iPad 2 fast enough. Seems like adoption is moving right along as it is.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (2)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765610)

1. Those are afterthoughts. Tablets aren't designed to replace desktops. They're meant to be highly portable and quick to use.

Having a simple dock where you can sit the tablet and which allows you to connect various USB-peripherals, including mouse and keyboard, doesn't in any way hinder portability. There is nothing that says you can't use a real keyboard to input text instead of the virtual one, for example. Even if tablets weren't originally meant to replace desktops they _could_ do it for many people if such a dock was available.

Just imagine this: you have a black surface, kind of like a mousepad, on your table. Next to it sits a regular monitor, mouse and keyboard. You pop your tablet on that surface with its screen down and poof, the peripherals come alive. You do what you meant to do, like for example write a longer e-mail or do a quick home budget on Google Docs. Then you just pick the tablet up from the surface and its again as it was. No hassle, and all the mobility you could hope for.

I do seriously claim that that would be really popular if done right -- you know, no horrible slowdowns, standardized system so it works across different manufacturers and OSes, etc. -- and very many regular consumers would ditch their old desktops.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

blackest_k (761565) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765812)

Thank you for this post, you just inspired me.
I have an archos 7 and it has usb Host mode and I just tried plugging in a cuecat. Wasn't sure if there would be enough power on the usb port to run it but it does.

Simple test capturing to the browser (google is pretty good on finding barcodes) works fine.
Now I have a very portable handheld scanner :)

That is useful.

I wouldnt have thought about this as an option.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

DurendalMac (736637) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765994)

Except you still have to deal with the lack of a desktop OS, so the tablet would need two separate environments. Then you'd need a bundle of hardware to go with it. Then you'd have to deal with the tablet still being slower than a laptop at the same price as the tablet + accessories and not running the same software. On that note, apps would have to be with a separate environment for kb/mouse and touchscreen, much higher resolutions, no multitouch...the list goes on. The two devices are pretty distinct, and for a good reason. There would be a LOT to overcome before you could merge a tablet with a desktop docking system before it would ever grow beyond a small niche.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766058)

Except you still have to deal with the lack of a desktop OS, so the tablet would need two separate environments.

Err. Exactly why do you think you'd need a separate OS for it? There is nothing special as to why the same OS couldn't just extend the screen real-estate to cover the larger screen.

[quote]On that note, apps would have to be with a separate environment for kb/mouse and touchscreen, much higher resolutions, no multitouch...the list goes on.[/quote]

Again, there is nothing specific as to why a mouse and keyboard wouldn't work. Hell, grab a tablet with bluetooth and connect a bluetooth keyboard to it: voila, it works just peachy. It is the OS itself which handles input devices, the apps only respond to signals from the OS. Similarly, I have a Nokia N900 mobile phone; if I connect a mouse and keyboard to it they work just as fine as the touchscreen does, across all the installed applications.

Either you don't understand OSes, or you're confused about something.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766546)

It is the OS itself which handles input devices, the apps only respond to signals from the OS.

Some applications make use of multitouch gestures, for which I see no general analog on a mouse. For example, how do I pinch to zoom with a mouse?

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

tkdtaylor (1039822) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766658)

That one's easy, click and drag to zoom in on the selected region or use the scroll wheel to zoom in and out similar to the way Google maps does it.

Wouldn't apps need to be modified for a mouse? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766758)

That one's easy, click and drag to zoom in on the selected region

Which as I understand it would require each application to be individually modified to support this mode of interaction. One couldn't take an existing app that requires multitouch and use it with a mouse. Dragging would just scroll the map. Or what am I missing in the Android API that abstracts over the difference between mouse and touch control?

or use the scroll wheel to zoom in and out similar to the way Google maps does it

Does Google Maps for Android do it this way when a standard USB mouse is plugged into a device through a USB host cable? Or would it too need to be modified to recognize a mouse?

Re:Wouldn't apps need to be modified for a mouse? (1)

tkdtaylor (1039822) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766866)

I've only played with an Android phone briefly so I don't have the experience to tell you what's possible or how it interacts if you use a mouse. Just saying that there are existing examples of Google applications that interact with a "regular" input like a mouse to do things that you're capable of doing on a touch screen interface. The example of zooming with pinch is one that existed with a mouse before multi-touch gestures even came out. From my experience as a software developer (again with no android experience) the API you use to detect events is extremely easy to use so attaching the mouse scroll event to the same method that zooms in for example is just a matter of defining a handler for the event then calling the exact same method you use already so it's possible app developers have already done this.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766680)

Some applications make use of multitouch gestures, for which I see no general analog on a mouse.

Oh, come on. You're making too much of multitouch.

You can do two things at a time on a mouse, like click and turn the wheel. I don't really see how different multi-touch is from CTRL-click. Hell, if the OS supports multi-touch why couldn't it support simultaneous input from a touchpad and mouse? That gives me an idea...

Applications would misinterpret events (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766764)

I don't really see how different multi-touch is from CTRL-click.

Applications that expect a multitouch movement event would misinterpret a Ctrl+tap event as a tap event.

Or say I'm playing one of those games that puts a virtual gamepad on the bottom corners of the screen. It expects two touch points: one on the directional pad at the bottom left and one on one of the buttons at the bottom right. How would a keyboard and mouse automatically emulate that?

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766726)

Some applications make use of multitouch gestures, for which I see no general analog on a mouse. For example, how do I pinch to zoom with a mouse?

As others have commented there's plenty of ways for such, including using various modkeys, the scroll wheel, and/or both mouse buttons. Then there's for example simply that the application displays a simple toolbar when the tablet is docked and the toolbar exposes the multitouch functionality. Simple and effective, doesn't even require restarting the application in question.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766770)

As others have commented

And as I have replied. Please see my replies to tkdtaylor and PopeRatzo about using a mouse with existing apps.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1, Insightful)

Wovel (964431) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766194)

You can use any blue tooth keyboard and most USB keyboards today. Apple released a keyboard dock the first day the iPad came out, if that's your thing Wtf would you want a mouse for..

Not sure why I am always amazed when people at slashdot talk authoritatively about things they know nothing about.. No reason you can't use a real keyboard. No shit. Maybe that is why the iPad has supported external keyboards since the day it was released.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766202)

You can use any blue tooth keyboard and most USB keyboards today. Apple released a keyboard dock the first day the iPad came out, if that's your thing Wtf would you want a mouse for..

Not sure why I am always amazed when people at slashdot talk authoritatively about things they know nothing about.. No reason you can't use a real keyboard. No shit. Maybe that is why the iPad has supported external keyboards since the day it was released.

I never claimed it can't use a keyboard. You're barking up the wrong tree, now.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

similar_name (1164087) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766204)

they can load their own custom apps into it, which just about any tablet (iPad included) can.

When did the iPad (or any tablet) get IE 6?

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (3, Funny)

Dr Max (1696200) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765438)

Exactly why microsoft needs to convert the xbox 360 into a tablet.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766556)

Microsoft has already gone halfway there with Windows Phone 7. It supports the same XNA API as Xbox Live Indie Games, and porting an XNA game to WP7 involves 1. rewriting the small section of a game's code that translates player input to game actions, and 2. using lower detail meshes and textures.

You mean like the iPad does already? (4, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765444)

Step 1: make some affordable accessories to comfortably set up a tablet as if it were a PC monitor; keyboard, speakers, etc.

With the iPad2 I can mirror to any monitor, or use a keyboard stand that Apple makes, or use any bluetooth keyboard, or buy any number of speaker docs [mashable.com] .

Step 2: start marketing parts instead of finished products only so it isn't an entire industry of iMacs. Let people build their own.

And how is that different with the entire iPad ecosystem today, where people are doing just that with a huge range of third party accessories? Otherwise you aren't seriously arguing that people surface-mount components in a homebrew tablet right? Because that is what you'd be doing to keep the size and weight anywhere near current tablet standards.

Step 3: open things up and give people more control over what they do with their devices; if you buy it you get to decide how it's used.

99% of iPad buyers have all the control they can use, they use the web and buy a huge range of tablet specific apps and that is enough.

The other 1% can jailbreak. And that is in fact better for the technical user than using any other device because of how much easier it is to hack ObjectiveC apps to tweak the system and individual apps instead of having to write whole applications from scratch. A huge part of the Cydia app store is not just superficial customization like the home page, but about customization to add features to existing apps (like Mail.app).

Now you may start to understand why Apple calls the tablet the "post-PC", the only missing component is off-pC backup. Hmm, I wonder what Apple is doing with a huge new datacenter?

Re:You mean like the iPad does already? (2, Insightful)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765468)

You can't upgrade an iPad. You can't install more RAM, or a new processor, or even (IIRC) a new battery. Even the XBox is more moddable. That's different than peripherals.

You mean like ALL the other tablets today? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765574)

You can't upgrade an iPad. You can't install more RAM, or a new processor, or even (IIRC) a new battery. Even the XBox is more moddable. That's different than peripherals.

Well in that case you're no worse off than any other tablet made today or the foreseeable future.

And you are still substantially better off because as I noted the iPad has a huge world of accessories targeting it, which are the only components mentioned in the original post that the user would change or replace or add.

But to make what you want, a tablet where you can change out the processor or even battery - there you have to go back to MY point about people surface-mounting components at home, in order to have anything even close to as small and light as a modern tablet is.

The aspect you are missing in this new world? How much of the traditionally larger data sets can and will be held off-device. It doesn't matter if your MPS library is 400GB is as much as you need is cached locally or streamed, same goes for movies or TV shows. That takes care of storage, And applications that are targeting substantially smaller internal memory footprints means that adding memory really only helps keep a few more apps open when multitasking is all.

Most people simply do not update PC's or laptops today. So why should (or would!) they in the future with the "post-PC"?

As another poster noted elsewhere, it's not like real PC's are going away. Web designers, programmers, scientists are all going to need real PC's where you can do all the things you desire. But tablets are a truly different computing space, and we should not be trying to shove all of the baggage we've been hauling around for years with the PC without a ton of thought.

Re:You mean like ALL the other tablets today? (1)

Frangible (881728) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765794)

I even have a tablet computer I've upgraded the RAM on (MicroDIMMs... oh so economical!!), added a solid state drive, and a larger battery. A Fujitsu P1610 ... weighs about 1 kg, on par with the iPad. Similar screen size. Some dude in China even upgraded the CPU on his. Microsoft continues to support tablet PCs in Windows 7. And there are many of them on the market.

So if he wants an "open" tablet PC, they certainly exist. And guess what? They suffer because they lack the cohesive and efficient mesh of hardware and software of the iPad.

And that ain't fanboyism, I spent far more money on my Fujitsu P1610 than my iPad. And I like the Fujitsu. Made in Japan, transreflective sunlight readable display, etc. More capable and faster than the iPad. Yet it gets used much, much less.

There are things more important than being able to spend obscene amounts of money to buy stupid little Micro DIMM modules. (I own a 2 GB one, thank you very much)

Re:You mean like ALL the other tablets today? (1)

Wovel (964431) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766222)

If by on par you mean roughly twice the iPads 613g, sure. The ipad is 8.8mm thick, the P1610 also has a smaller screen then the iPad (8.9"), and is roughly 3.5x as thick as the iPad (34.5mm vs the IPads 8.8mm). What possessed you to make make a comparison. Of course you can upgrade the parts in the p1610, it is thicker than a MacBook pro (24.1mm).

The original iPad outsold the entire 10 year history of tablets like the p1610 in it's first week. Consumer and business alike have shunned the desktop OS tablet for over a decade.

Re:You mean like ALL the other tablets today? (1)

am 2k (217885) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766236)

A Fujitsu P1610 ... weighs about 1 kg, on par with the iPad.

Uhhh... No? The iPad2 has 601g, which is a huge difference when you're holding it with one hand.

Microsoft continues to support tablet PCs in Windows 7.

Technically, yes. I recently tried using Windows 7 with a touchscreen monitor (by iiyama). Technically it worked (after fiddling around for 20mins), but I was unable to hit any menu on the screen, it was too small by far, even though I cranked the resolution down to unbearable levels. On the iPad, every dev knows that a touch area has to be at least 44x44px to be usable. On Windows 7, nobody cares (and the area required even depends on the device used, which makes it kinda impossible even if the dev wanted).

Once economies of scale disappear from PCs (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766584)

It doesn't matter if your MPS library is 400GB is as much as you need is cached locally or streamed

But when will U.S. carriers start to offer enough data transfer to get things in and out of that cache at a non-prohibitive price? It's no good to have 400 GB if you can only stream 5 GB every month. Or are you talking about waiting until in range of an open Wi-Fi and then swapping things in and out of the local cache?

it's not like real PC's are going away.

That's not always true. The idea of a home computer connected to a television has gone away; it was common in the early 1980s but is nearly unheard of now in favor of locked-down devices. (I can provide 7 citations if you wish.) And how will people do tasks that need a real PC once economies of scale disappear from the PC market and PCs become several times more expensive?

Re:You mean like the iPad does already? (1)

Frangible (881728) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765756)

How is the XBox more moddable? You can add... a USB hard drive that doesn't hold most of the 360's content? A USB memory stick, but only if it's less than 16GB? A proprietary hard drive, or Microsoft will invalidate yours if you try hacking one in? You can't install more RAM or a new CPU on a XBox.

The iPad is a system on a chip. SoCs don't have SODIMM sockets or a PCI Express slot to plug in your NVidia card that would devour the battery in under a second and start an electrical fire. Expecting to upgrade it is like expecting to upgrade a cell phone's CPU/RAM... basically the same thing really. The best they could do is give you a SD card slot.

And you can drop a new battery in one, it's just a PITA.

If you expect to slap together your own iPad from components you got on Newegg, good luck with that.

Re:You mean like the iPad does already? (1)

eugene2k (1213062) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765916)

Why would you want to add more ram or a new processor? You think it would improve your experience of using a tablet, right? In truth the openness of the PC actually hurts experience. Because everyone is making something different, developers don't have a platform to target. You install Windows 7 only to discover that your computer slows down considerably in comparison to windows xp. You install a game and find out later that in order for it to not lag you need to upgrade. A developer is forced to make different settings for a PC game, because they don't know what the user has and the user is in turn forced to know how to configure the game to work best on their PC. That's not improving the experience, that's making it worse.

Re:You mean like the iPad does already? (1)

pmontra (738736) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766326)

I've got a Playstation to play games and that provides a common ground for developers, which I understand is good. I also understand that there is generally little need to upgrade one of today's tablets but I don't agree that the openness of PCs hurts experience.

In the last 3 years I upgraded gradually my PC from WinXP to Ubuntu, from 2 GB RAM to 4 GB, from 80 GB HD to a 500 GB HD and customized my desktop away from the default Ubuntu one, which is getting constantly worse release after release IMHO (they're doing a decently good job but in a direction opposite to my needs). Every single change improved my experience and I had no problem finding good applications that would run on every different setup. I wouldn't buy a console-like computer (iPad-like should I say?), something I cannot tweak into a tool I can use in the way I want.

Consoles and iPads are good for consuming contents (games or throw-away apps or even showing documents to customers), general purpose computers are good for programming. As there are many more consumers than programmers I bet that the market for general purpose computer will shrink and OSes will make more devices look like consoles. But I'll always want a real computer under my fingers, even if I might use other devices most of my time.

Re:You mean like the iPad does already? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765566)

I can't take any post-PC claim seriously until you can
- manage a firewall as powerful as iptables/pf
- have full control over encryption on all filesystems
- write an interpreter aka scripting environment

Re-think your assumptions (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765614)

- manage a firewall as powerful as iptables/pf

You can try using pfctl on a jailbroken iPad today. [modmyi.com]

But isn't it better that a system have zero open ports by default and not NEED iPtables until you start doing things that require it? Remember running any app can only corrupt the dataspace for that app.

- have full control over encryption on all filesystems

The whole filesystem is hardware encrypted, and has been since the 3Gs I believe.

- write an interpreter aka scripting environment

Did you even READ the part where I said the 1% of people who need something more technical can jailbreak? Then you can run local python, perl, bash shells, or whatever.

Or if you don't like to jailbreak for some odd reason you can simply use whatever scripting language pleases you after you buy a $99/year developer license and write any scripting you like into your own apps which you deploy to your own device. But that was what you said you wanted.

So I guess it's time for you to start re-thinking your assumptions.

Re:Re-think your assumptions (1)

pmontra (738736) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766362)

The choices are jailbreaking (which is something Apple doesn't appreciate [google.com] ) or paying a $99 yearly fee to use your device almost as if it were really yours. Both choices are bad. When you face only bad options you know that something wrong already happened and somebody (maybe even yourself) put you into an undesirable position. In this case the only good choice is not to buy that device. A better choice would be Apple removing those limitations but that's wishful thinking.

Re:You mean like the iPad does already? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765622)

good call, sir. i wish gizmodo's jesus diaz and techcrunch's mg siegler can read this.

Re:You mean like the iPad does already? (1)

Dr Max (1696200) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765970)

With the way mobile technology is going with systems on a chip its not impossible to think you could pull the dual core tegra 2 out of your tablet, and put in a new quad core kal-el.

Re:You mean like the iPad does already? (1)

similar_name (1164087) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766242)

You had me until..

The other 1% can jailbreak. And that is in fact better for the technical user than using any other device

I think you're stretching a little too hard on that one.

because of how much easier it is to hack ObjectiveC apps to tweak the system and individual apps instead of having to write whole applications from scratch.

Wait, what are my choices here? Hack ObjectiveC or write whole applications from scratch. I think you might be leaving one or two other choices out.

Leave that paragraph out and your post is stronger. There's no way to legitimately spin the 'advantages' of having to circumvent the design of a device. Just accept that you can't please all of the people all of the time. :)

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765454)

Furthermore, everyone knows the big automobile market—especially the business market— is in custom-built hot rods that only a local grease monkey knows how to fix.

Sure, they may break down every 3000 km and have lots of strange compatibility issues between the random engines, transmissions, and everything else that got shoved together, but hey...At least they're better than those gimmicky "factory built" toys that some wackos drive.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (2)

node 3 (115640) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765640)

-cut- Senes' three step plan to completely destroy the tablet market -cut-

Boom, tablets are the new PCs. Not a replacement, simply an evolution out of the old form. Until all this happens they'll still just be a gimmicky toy that some people happen to spend a lot of time on. Make these things happen and you'll see business tablets as well.

That's the exact opposite of what people want. It makes no sense to turn the tablet into a PC. We already have something like that... the PC. For people that want that, they can buy a... PC!

The tablet is for people that don't actually want a PC, and for those that do want a PC (and there will be plenty of such people, especially amongst the slashdot crowd), the tablet is for them too, for those times when they don't want to use a PC.

For those for whom the PC is ingrained into their very being, tablets will remain a "gimmicky toy that some [other] people happen to spend a lot of time on".

Greatly outnumbered (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766590)

For people that want that, they can buy a... PC!

The tablet is for people that don't actually want a PC

So once the market shifts such that the "people that don't actually want a PC" so greatly outnumber the people that do want a PC, and the economies of scale of making PCs have dried up, what should people that do want a PC do?

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (2)

Boycott BMG (1147385) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765680)

May I suggest an asus eee pad transformer http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=gHh4q7I8dvWJzhdV [asus.com] ? It has a detachable keyboard and extra stuff like USB ports and SD card slots. It isn't really moddable to a large degree though.

I gotta say...WTF? (2)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765692)

No offense dude, but it sounds like a classic case of putting the lipstick on a pig. if you need all those accessories to use the thing? Then perhaps a tablet ain't the right tool for your particular job. And tablets as a "gaming platform"? if you call Angry Birds and Farmvillve games instead of time wasters then MAYBE.

I think this is just another case of everybody and their dog jumping on the new fad and thinking its the second coming. Remember when netbooks were the new hotness? Hell I saw "gaming netbooks" pushed then as well, anything to separate your offering from the pack. What happened to those? oh yeah people found out that cheap and little only got you so far and the bottom fell out, same as what will happen to tablets.

Do I think tablets are toast? Nope same as I doubt netbooks will ever truly go away, as both have their uses. For netbooks it is those like my dad who I picked up a nice AMD dual netbook for, it was only $430 and is small enough he can just throw it in his briefcase and if he needs to shoot out an invoice or check on a part on the job site he can just flip it on and BAM, its done. It also gives him an easy way to watch videos and check his mail while waiting on a contractor. But even my oldest who I thought being in college would appreciate the form factor ended up going with a full laptop (I found him a nice deal on a Turion cheap) because he found the form factor too small and limiting (it probably didn't help that he and his buddies frag fest to kill time between classes either).

Same thing with tablets, in that while the average Joe will probably quickly get bored and look for the next new hotness for the medical and warehouse trades the tablet is like a Godsend. All the doctor's offices and hospitals in my area are switching to tablets, which lets the doc have any and all data at his fingertips, lets the nurses update charts, etc, while in the warehouse business several of my customers are using tablets now for inventory management and just love the things to death.

So in the end I think the same thing that happened to netbooks will happen to tablets, we just haven't reached the saturation point yet. it is still too new and many are still in the new hotness stage, once it has been out for a little while and folks see that it isn't the second coming most will get dumped, just like how my Craigslist is plumb full of netbooks ATM. Gaming is simply better done with some buttons or a controller and the tablet FF? Not really made for that.

Reconsider what you consider games there (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765728)

if you call Angry Birds and Farmvillve games instead of time wasters then MAYBE.

Farmville, I totally agree. It's rather aptly name in that the ONLY thing you are doing is literally farming, in the classic MMORPG sense.

The thing that takes it away from being a "game" in my mind, is that a lack of skill does zero to hurt you, or even really help you that much. All you have to do is exist.

But Angry Birds is very much a game in any sense, and not a "time waster". At the start anyone can easily complete levels but after some progression it takes real skill, intelligence and manual dexterity to complete a level.

The same goes with many other games on the iPad today, sure you have Farmville's but you have a lot of other stuff that is really a game by any traditional sense, just with a touch-based control scheme (though even there some games are starting to branch out, allowing a second screen to present the game while the main screen is the controller, or supporting third-party alternative controls).

So in the end I think the same thing that happened to netbooks will happen to tablets, we just haven't reached the saturation point yet. it is still too new and many are still in the new hotness stage, once it has been out for a little while and folks see that it isn't the second coming most will get dumped, just like how my Craigslist is plumb full of netbooks ATM.

Netbooks were dumped because in the end the were a really badly specced computer. But they were still a computer. I don't think you'll see that happen with the iPad because the original iPad will be able to do a huge number of things for many years, out to whatever the hardware lifespan of the device might be.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766016)

<quote>Step 2: start marketing parts instead of finished products only so it isn't an entire industry of iMacs. Let people build their own.</quote>

Uh how many tablet users actually want to build their own?

Some desktop/tower PC users may want to build their own - that's why they buy those sort of computers.

Judging from the article summary: tablet owners want to buy something and be able to play games on it near immediately.

They don't want to do some DIY assembly.

The real next form of computing would be wearables or even prosthetics. Then we would have virtual telepathy, telekinesis and eidetic memory. We are already seeing a similar form when people send each other videos, buy stuff with their phones, or when they go shopping, post a photo on FB/etc and ask "Should I buy this?" and within a few minutes friends from around the world chip in.

Restrictive copyright laws would be a bigger issue when that happens.

Re:My thought: make tablets more like PCs/consoles (1)

w0mprat (1317953) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766198)

+1! Indeed the iPad is shackled to bloated iTunes installed on a laptop or desktop of some sort. Apple was clever to do this, and clever to dumb down it's gadget so it was itself a peripheral and not a replacement for the other computers it sells. They also were clever to make it big enough not to be a replacement for a iPod which one might find a 5-7" inch tablet capable of being - it could fit in a womans handbag and therefore become a portable music player or drive bluetooth headphones in another bag or backpack. iPad is big enough to make lugging it enough of a chore to not kill the iPod business. Apples decisions with it's tablet computer have been a factor.

Android tablets are actually a bad thing. Android does a much better job of being a standalone OS that can interface with everything and sync with the cloud. Android owners enjoy over the air syncing of apps they pick on market.android.com. It also doesn't ask you to hand over your credit card details before you can even download free app and you can even bypass the market and side-load any apps you want. Aside from it being a little tricky to get root access to your own device (ultimately Google doesn't stop you like Apple tries to) this is much more like old school OS freedom we enjoy with our Win/OSX/*nix machines. The result is it's more of a PC killer than a complimentary gadget. Then there's the Motorola Atrix which docks with a laptop like screen and keyboard to become a PC. Sony's Xperia Play is also going to take a swipe at portable gaming - I'd bet on Sony releasing their gaming focused tablet (the S1) this year. Ultimately it'll be Android taking a slice of the desktop market share, not Apple, which is going to lose it's glory in 3...2...1..

More like "common denominator". (4, Insightful)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765284)

Some people use their hands to perform surgery. Some use them to play the violin. Some use them to flip burgers. Nearly all, however, use their hands to brush their teeth.

Thus, tooth-brushing is the most popular use for hands.

Re:More like "common denominator". (1)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765400)

Some people use their hands to perform surgery. Some use them to play the violin. Some use them to flip burgers. Nearly all, however, use their hands to jerk off.

Thus, jerking off is the most popular use for hands.

FTFY. And improved the analogy with tablets, too.

Re:More like "common denominator". (1)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765470)

You know you've been on Slashdot too long when you think that nearly all people "jerk off".

Re:More like "common denominator". (1)

jshackney (99735) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765518)

I'm really disappointed that this failed to produce a "jacking on" joke.

Re:More like "common denominator". (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765522)

I'm really disappointed that this failed to produce a "jacking on" joke.M/quote>I jack on my bitch's face all the time. No joke.

News at 11 (4, Insightful)

iSzabo (1392353) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765300)

Do people play with toys more often than they play with tools? Tonight, we investigate.

No shit.. (1)

kvvbassboy (2010962) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765322)

I am sure most people use their systems for email, tweeting and facebook. So the 71% doesn't surprise me the least bit. What does seem strange is that people use it for games, but I haven't heard of any games that are playable for more than an hour.

Re:No shit.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765340)

That's just it; most people sit around and play bejeweled all day on their PCs while they're at school/work. This just makes it easier for them to spend their bosses' time staring at pretty lights while their PC screens still look productive.

Re:No shit.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765356)

I can think of one: SNESoid.

Infinity Blade (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765478)

There are actually quite a lot of good games for the iPad (and lets be honest what tablets the people being surveyed really owned).

But one I know for sure can easily be played for longer than an hour, is the aptly named Infinity Blade. It's the really well done kind of RPG with a quick cycle but a ton of different upgrades to earn/buy.

Something like the omni-present Angry Birds or Plants vs. Zombies, can easily be good for several hours.

Re:No shit.. (1)

Wovel (964431) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766252)

That is because you have not bothered to look.

Re:No shit.. (1)

pmontra (738736) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766392)

A friend of mine was playing chess on an iPad while walking with me on a street last Saturday night and yes, he didn't play more than an hours. The AI took about 15 minutes to crush him. Luckily he didn't got crushed by cars too because I was looking more at the road than at the screen :-) I'm pretty sure he's in that 84% of people playing games but not in that 82% that use tablets primarily at home, but my opinion is that a 10" device is too big to be carried around on a regular basis. The same applies to my 9" netbook (1.1 kg). Size matters.

Amazing (2)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765346)

I thought that the main use for tablets would be programming, blogging and writting books.

Re:Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765542)

I seem to recall that the ads would allow me to catch up on a little Melville before bed, check my stock portfolio at Starbucks (while I take a break from my Harley), and share a laugh with my grandchildren on a lawn somewhere.
What they really need is a game that can be played from start to conclusion at a stop light.

Re:Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765710)

programming

seriously? /:)

Re:Amazing (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766102)

I thought it was for prescribing aspirin.

Re:Amazing (1)

pmontra (738736) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766400)

I thought that the main use for tablets would be programming, blogging and writting books.

Maybe parent wanted to be modded funny but...
Programming?!
Blogging, yes.
Writing books: fingers don't last much if they hit a hard surface all the day. Keyboards give way not only to activate a sensor but also to attenuate the hits.

Gaming Is the Most Popular Use For Tablets... (1)

RobertM1968 (951074) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765366)

and for my Android Phone (T-Mobile G2 with Google by HTC). Much to the dismay of my battery...

Re:Gaming Is the Most Popular Use For Tablets... (1)

Wovel (964431) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766256)

Do you find it awkward that you need to use like 8 words to effectively communicate what phone you have?

Seems petty (1)

EmperorOfCanada (1332175) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765368)

As someone who is about to add a third monitor I might be a "power user" but when I use my iPad I realize that here is the future baby. For most people the choice of a small handheld device will become more and more obvious. Thinking through my family I can't count many who need a anything much beyond a tablet/smartphone to meet their computing needs.
This might actually bode well for us users of many monitors and powerful desktops as these "old school" computers will be more aimed at us instead of the youtube webmail crowd. There will always be a demand from engineers, artists, programmers, accounts, etc for a big screen general purpose computer.
I read about people dismissing tablets as juvenile and that they won't adopt one until they can program in RANDOM_LANGUAGE on it in their favorite IDE and for us this will remain true for a while. But what won't be juvenile is the massive numbers of tablet users that are going to have these, along with a smart phone, as their sole general purpose computing device.

Re:Seems petty (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765388)

I set up an old laptop for my mother. It runs ubuntu and goes online through a 3G connection. I loaded it with links to news, social networks and blogs but her favourite application by far is the local weather radar. She has a big garden where she spends much of her time and knowing what weather is coming is really useful for her. I am now looking out for a tablet with a screen which is positively easy to read in bright sunlight. Something like fast e-ink would be ideal. Then she can spend more time where she likes, not sitting at a desk, which she did for her whole career.

Just buy the iPad already. (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765456)

Stop torturing her with the chinese-app-drip and just buy her an iPad to give her the freedom she deserves to be able to work the device yourself without your help.

It's readable out in the sun. Closing the cover to turn it off and on makes it foolproof (might want to buy a sturdier surrounding case if it's going out in the garden, most now have adopted the magnets that turn it off). Just come over once a week or month to back it up for her but otherwise she can just do everything on the device herself.

iPad Content I'm Waiting For (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765412)

I could go for an iPad 2, easily. All it would take is a full fledged awesome MMO (or the ability to do everything in EVE-Online - except battles - that I can do in the real game). Even better, release some completely, no-holds-barred RPGs. Long, involved, deep RPG that I could spend the entire year exploring and playing. I don't care for these half-assed mini-sim games or FPS-ish games. If they started to offer that, the complexity that I could build on and explore a bit at a time for countless hours or weeks or months would compel me to part with my moolah.

Re:iPad Content I'm Waiting For (1)

Wovel (964431) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766274)

Several good RPGs now and some are multiplayer. I think we will see an MMO In the next year or so if sales keep up.

I was confused. (2)

Octopuscabbage (1932234) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765450)

Here i thought the tablets computers main use was a substitute for toilet paper, or some sort of laxative. I really could not figure out what the main use was.

Re:I was confused. (1)

The Clockwork Troll (655321) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765494)

And aren't analgesic tablets more popular than gaming tablets (e.g. iBuprofen)?

So the tablets are doomed then. (1)

aeoo (568706) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765476)

If gaming is their primary use, then tablet is doomed because the general purpose computers, game consoles and portable game consoles are all much, much better for playing games. It's not a good sign if the device's primary use involves a function it sucks at.

The tablets failed to take off in the past and I think they'll fail again. They just don't fill a credible niche. They're largely useless. Maybe doctors and nurses will use them in hospitals to keep the patient notes, or maybe tablets can fill some other super-specialized industrial niche like that. But tablets suck as general purpose devices, and they suck as gaming devices as well.

Re:So the tablets are doomed then. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765520)

Children play games. Children grow up with existing technology and make it apply for their daily life. Prepare for the future, chummer.

Re:So the tablets are doomed then. (1)

Altus (1034) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765602)

chummer

Damn... that takes me back.

Re:So the tablets are doomed then. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35765528)

I'm predicting they'll follow a trendline similar to the PDA.

They do fill a great void in niche markets, but I'm wondering at what cost? Everybody seems to want one without much rational thought... er, that sounds like the definition of "early adopters", nevermind.

Re:So the tablets are doomed then. (1)

Gadget_Guy (627405) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765652)

If gaming is their primary use, then tablet is doomed because the general purpose computers, game consoles and portable game consoles are all much, much better for playing games.

That depends on the type of game. Tablets do not work for an FPS game, or a button bashing one. But they are suitable for mouse type games like Civilization or puzzle games. I loaded SCUMMVM on my tablet, and found that point and click adventures are well suited to it. I guess it is going to be more popular with the ever-growing casual gaming market rather than hardcore gamingt.

I imagine that click and flick games would be ideal when interactive with your finger, and this isn't an action that suits a mouse. This demonstrates that it requires the game developers to have a mindset change to really take advantage of the user interface. The problems that you identify with tablet computing happen when you try to emulate the UI of existing computers or consoles.

The biggest benefit that tablet computing brings is the portability. It doesn't matter that a full computer may be easier to use if that computer is sitting back in the office, or is a hassle to take out of the case and setup. Admittedly, I am a bit of a gadget guy myself, but I have always thought that small and light, low powered devices always trump heavier powerful systems because it doesn't matter how much more powerful something is if it hurts your back to carry it around all the time. I want a computing device that does not require any decision to lug it around all day.

Not all puzzle games are the same (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766742)

Tablets do not work for an FPS game, or a button bashing one. But they are suitable for mouse type games like Civilization or puzzle games.

True, a handheld or a laptop with a gamepad is better for platformers and the like, and a tablet could be better for RTS games such as Starcraft or Total Annihilation. But not all puzzle games are better with a tablet. Bejeweled wants a tablet, but Tetris wants a gamepad or an arcade joystick. How would this [youtube.com] be done on a tablet?

Re:So the tablets are doomed then. (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765676)

If gaming is their primary use, then tablet is doomed because the general purpose computers, game consoles and portable game consoles are all much, much better for playing games.

First of all, those things you mentioned might be better for _certain types of gaming_, secondly, market forces simply do NOT work that way. Just look at BetaMax; clearly superior to VHS, yet VHS trumpeted it.

Ie. tablets do what people want, it doesn't matter if some other device does _some_ of the functionality better if they don't do all the functionality better.

So Tablets are doomed, yes? (1)

Qbertino (265505) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766516)

If gaming is their primary use, then tablet is doomed because the general purpose computers, game consoles and portable game consoles are all much, much better for playing games.

If by doomed you mean selling 15 million units within 9 months since release (Apples iPad 1), then count me in on the 'doomed' thing. ...
And please don't forget that gaming also was the main reason PCs took of back in the day.

Re:So the tablets are doomed then. (1)

node 3 (115640) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766520)

If gaming is their primary use, then tablet is doomed because the general purpose computers, game consoles and portable game consoles are all much, much better for playing games.

Your logic is, something is doomed if people are using it a lot?

Games are everywhere. What would be significantly more troubling for iPads would be if people *weren't* playing games on them.

It's not a good sign if the device's primary use involves a function it sucks at.

Says who? The millions of people spending many millions of hours playing games on them?

The tablets failed to take off in the past and I think they'll fail again. They just don't fill a credible niche. They're largely useless.

The iPad had, in less than one year, completely outsold all other tablets ever put on the market. That's not just a "credible niche", that's mainstream. The iPad is the most successful consumer electronics device ever. The market has spoken, and it wants iPads.

Maybe doctors and nurses will use them in hospitals to keep the patient notes, or maybe tablets can fill some other super-specialized industrial niche like that.

Maybe they will, but I don't understand why you keep trying to find some niche for a wildly successful product. It's like wondering if maybe TV will someday find a niche.

But tablets suck as general purpose devices, and they suck as gaming devices as well.

Yeah, keep repeating that and maybe it will somehow reverse reality and become true.

Gaming (1)

danbuter (2019760) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765560)

Gaming is the most popular use for most computers outside of servers.

Bad news for Android then (2)

Sarusa (104047) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765570)

I love my Android phone - I'd much rather have a good Android tablet than an iPad. But right now, Android on tablet sucks (3.1 please?) and the Android tablet gaming ecosystem is abysmal. One session of Infinity Blade and then browsing the iTunes App Store for iPad only apps is enough to confirm that unless you're stupidly partisan.

So if gaming is the primary use, there's no reason whatsoever for people to buy a XOOM over an iPad 2. Hell, I wouldn't either right now.

This may change in the future. I sure hope so.

Re:Bad news for Android then (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766174)

Not to mention fruit ninja's lack of multitouch on Andriod. Programmers are really dropping the ball on Android for some reason, choosing to support outdated versions despite some vast majority of the population running 2.2 or higher. One thing Apple has is apps that are more refined. Less free apps, but more refined none the less.

Devices other than phones (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766790)

Programmers are really dropping the ball on Android for some reason, choosing to support outdated versions despite some vast majority of the population running 2.2 or higher.

It might have something to do with the fact that a lot of people buy cheaper Android-powered devices that lack a cellular radio because they're priced for up-front purchase rather than for being subsidized by a monthly wireless data bill. A lot of these manufacturers don't support their products with operating system upgrades as long as Apple does. Many of these "Wi-Fi only" devices can't officially be upgraded past 1.6, past 2.1, or past 2.2.

A tablet could be a great portable gaming device (1)

poly_pusher (1004145) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765608)

Tablets are potentially a great portable gaming device. They won't replace PC's anytime soon for many practical reasons but that doesn't mean that a tablet can't be a great portable gaming device. For instance, The Asus EEE EP121 http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=QhWKR7Fmv4jDLbBY [asus.com] This is a pretty powerful tablet. Heavier than the Ipad or Ipad 2 but incredibly potent. If they come out with a variant that includes a sandy bridge processor, then we are getting into a realm where gaming on a tablet is very real. Gabe Newell of Valve/Steam referred to Sandy Bridge as a processor that makes a console experience possible on a PC or Mac. This is what they should focus on. A tablet that runs the same OS as the main system. Capable graphics that can run new generation games at scaled back settings. This way you could for instance have steam on your tablet and your PC. Play the same game on either, just with a different quality experience but portable.

Re:A tablet could be a great portable gaming devic (4, Informative)

Karlt1 (231423) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765670)

Putting Windows on a tablet computer. Why didn't someone think of this earlier?

Oh yeah they did! Every year for the past 10+ years and they have all failed.

Re:A tablet could be a great portable gaming devic (1)

Frangible (881728) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765820)

I have a Fujitsu P1610, a tablet PC more powerful than an iPad, and have owned it for years. It's nothing new. And guess what? Gaming on it sucks, and it has little to do with the framerate -- though it's getting dated now my chief complaint with gaming on it was never the framerate, it was the interface.

That's largely true of the iPad as well, because very few games are suited for touch input (Angry Birds etc). If you want portable gaming, get a DS or PSP. The controller is king.

And yeah, I've paired Bluetooth pads and keyboards with my Droid X, and tried running emulators. Awkward.

Even my Macbook Pro which has a beautiful screen, fast GPU/CPU, kickass touchpad, etc is not fun to game on.

Portable gaming has little to do with hardware power. Even an old GBA is a better experience than machines many orders of magnitude more powerful.

Thank you Slashdot, this impacts me directly (1)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765656)

I have a Flash video game, I wrote over the past year(about 800+ hours worth of work by me, maybe 4,000 man hours across the project). I think it just might run on Tablets easy. I'm going to drive to Best Buy and run a version of it on their store product because I don't actually own a tablet myself. So thank you Slashdot. I get to get out tomorrow.

Now here is a question, if you write a hit game on Android and sell it for $0.99 in their ap store, what would you make in profits?

Re:Thank you Slashdot, this impacts me directly (1)

ADRA (37398) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766396)

70% gross on sales - Opportunity cost of writing the game = ($100,000)

Re:Thank you Slashdot, this impacts me directly (1)

pmontra (738736) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766416)

Now here is a question, if you write a hit game on Android and sell it for $0.99 in their ap store, what would you make in profits?

Something proportional to the amount of time and money you invest in advertising. Tablets may have changed the market but not the rules.

Re:Thank you Slashdot, this impacts me directly (1)

hellop2 (1271166) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766598)

100% profit, if you sell the app on your own website, right?

Heck no! (1)

SteveW928 (2030878) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765678)

I'm going to be replacing my laptop with an iPad 2 as soon as I can get the purchase 'cleared' by the SO (or find enough things to sell). The technology has reached a point where most anything can be done, it is simply another form or computing. For example, PhotoShop appears to be coming to iOS. There is enough computing power there to do just about anything other than the really heavy stuff like CGI rendering or re-encoding video, etc. Not that it couldn't do this, but just wouldn't be very fast at it. The big difference is the UI. There are going to be some kind of tasks which are better suited for a tablet, and some which are better suited to the typical mouse-driven GUI we're familiar with. But, the kinds of apps and things which can be done on either, with the exception of power use, is going to quickly disappear.

Re:Heck no! (1)

SteveW928 (2030878) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765690)

Oh, also I'd say that while I play a game from time to time... for me that is the least used thing. I've got a PS3 for that!

Can we please have an identical study... (1)

UBfusion (1303959) | more than 3 years ago | (#35765908)

using the same methodology, sample and tools to investigate the current uses of netbooks (or laptops)? I'd like to see the impact of the form factor on people's patterns of device use.

Personally, I have some pet theories regarding tablet use:

1. Games & apps for tablets seem to be a LOT cheaper than their netbook/laptop/desktop equivalents. (I have in mind a Photoshop plugin called Athentech Perfectly Clear, used to enhance pictures. The PC version is $199, while the iPad version is $5.99!). This means that people who wouldn't normally risk purchasing a PC game at say $70 are more likely to purchase 10 tablet games at $3. So, having downloaded more tablet games it's inevitable that people will spend more time to explore them and enjoy them e.g. on the sofa, in the kitchen, in bed or in the WC.

2. Another factor is the psychological one: Subconsciously we tend to associate our laptop/netbook (not to mention our desktop PCs) mainly with doing work and therefore we feel a certain kind of guilt when playing games or procrastinating on them. The tablet helps transfer the feeling of guilt onto a new device, which gradually becomes associated more and more with recreational activities rather than work-like activities.

3. Either way, the tablet is becoming the vehicle (or the substitute) of the dream about the future of our society: less work, more free time. I remember several articles/books of the past decades predicting that in the future (meaning the 21st century), technology will change the way we work, resulting in e.g. a 3 hours per day work, leaving the the rest of the day free for recreation/family/self fulfillment. Thus, the tablet presently materializes The Imaginary function of technology according to Lacan's point of view - living in a future, better, merrier world now and not later (this after all is the Desire driving all early adopters).

What do you think?

Re:Can we please have an identical study... (1)

pmontra (738736) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766442)

3. Either way, the tablet is becoming the vehicle (or the substitute) of the dream about the future of our society: less work, more free time. I remember several articles/books of the past decades predicting that in the future (meaning the 21st century), technology will change the way we work, resulting in e.g. a 3 hours per day work, leaving the the rest of the day free for recreation/family/self fulfillment. Thus, the tablet presently materializes The Imaginary function of technology according to Lacan's point of view - living in a future, better, merrier world now and not later (this after all is the Desire driving all early adopters).

What do you think?

Those kind of dreams may be selling tablets and other technologies but I think that if you work 3 hours per day you'll be paid about half of what you get if you work full time. If that pays your bills it's OK otherwise it's not good for you even if you've got a tablet in your hands.

We'll be able to work little only when food, health and housing will be cheap but people providing those facilities will always try to get as much money as they can so I don't see this coming anytime soon and especially not in the USA. It seems very unamerican (a masochist country?). We'd need a global agreement on those issues but I bet I'll die much before that time.

What??? (1)

lennier1 (264730) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766654)

Gaming is the most popular use for over priced toys?

I'm truly shocked!!!

Popular (1)

rossdee (243626) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766702)

Of course more people probably use them more for work, but they want to use them for games, so its more popular.

And in other news minesweeper and Solitaire top the 'most often used PC applications' list

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