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Photosynth Gets a Little Competition

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the sit-and-spin dept.

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andres32a writes "Using existing open-source Structure From Motion Libraries and incorporating a WebGL pointcloud viewer, we have created a new website called 3dtubeme.com that allows users to create and share on the web amazing 3d models using virtually any digital camera. Point clouds are dramatically denser than Photosynth, and best of all... it works on any WebGL browser!"

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Unbelievable processing power for a pittance... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766674)

...but web servers still can't handle the load of a minor Slashdotting even before a single comment is posted. Looks like you're doing it wrong.

Re:Unbelievable processing power for a pittance... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35767840)

Heh. That's cute. You still think it's Slashdot that brings down a webserver.

Re:Unbelievable processing power for a pittance... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35768124)

No, it's bad programming that brings down a webserver. Slashdot is just one of the possible triggers. Hence the "you're doing it wrong" comment.

Re:Unbelievable processing power for a pittance... (5, Insightful)

mrclisdue (1321513) | more than 3 years ago | (#35768518)

What is truly unbelievable is that it requires a Facebook login to see a fucking picture.

If that's the case, then how's about a giant "Who gives a fuck".

cheers,

Re:Unbelievable processing power for a pittance... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35770040)

This. If they require a Facebook account, then it's worthless.

Re:Unbelievable processing power for a pittance... (1)

itsanx (1534709) | more than 3 years ago | (#35772562)

From top of the page: "Announcement: We will lift the facebook account verification for model viewing by monday. You guys are right: it's plain dumb. We are not trying to spam you! "

Already Slashdotted. :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766678)

Too late. The site is barely responding, and I can't even Coralize it.

Yes Slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766738)

We're putting load balancing right now. Should get bitter in a while.

Re:Yes Slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766754)

I canne get in laddie

Re:Yes Slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766808)

Not with your pants on, you don't :P

Re:Yes Slashdotted (1)

clyde_cadiddlehopper (1052112) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766862)

Should get bitter in a while.

*better, not bitter. Alternatively, we could complete the fragment: "The performance of the web site should get better in a while. Visitors from slashdot should only be bitter for while."

Re:Yes Slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766894)

That's the answer to everything, isn't it? If it can't handle the load, add more processing power. It's a web site, not Folding at Home! I've seen the traffic that a Slashdotting produces and it is nowhere near load-balancing worthiness. Clean up your architecture and your code. If you need more than one beefy server to handle the load, you're not doing it right.

Re:Yes Slashdotted (1)

v1 (525388) | more than 3 years ago | (#35767328)

Remember though, sometimes it's more a case of bandwidth than backend. My primary line is 768k dsl. I don't care of you have a cray optimized with a team of sevants behind it, it won't handle it unless you're serving a 4k page with nothing embedded.

Re:Yes Slashdotted (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35767566)

It's never(*) the bandwidth. (*) never: generalization, means "extremely rarely"

We're not talking about some really big video file of Natalie Portman and hot grits or something. The sites that in this day and age still can't handle a little attention are invariably the ones with shoddy programming in hipster script languages.

Re:Yes Slashdotted (1)

ConceptJunkie (24823) | more than 3 years ago | (#35769442)

OK, you fixed one mistake. Now what's up with having to link to a Facebook account?

Re:Yes Slashdotted (1)

andres32a (448314) | more than 3 years ago | (#35769582)

Ok. Got it! We will kill the facebook thing!

Maybe Hold Off On The Slashvertisement (2)

omni123 (1622083) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766840)

until your website can handle the load. And it's not even a busy period.

Re:Maybe Hold Off On The Slashvertisement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766876)

Agree 100%. Doesn't look good at all.

hacking made easy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766842)

/. - easiest DOS attack ever....

Facebook Integration (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766878)

Seriously?

You want access to my personal facebook information just so I can view one of the existing uploads? Oh please.

Chrome thanks you for taking it out in a massive lag spike, though. I think this is one case where open-source went for greed and Microsoft went for "just works".

Slashdotted (1)

Meltir (891449) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766910)

Anyone smell the burning plastic ?

(that said, ill have a look once the fire brigade leaves - sounds cool!)

Re:Slashdotted (1)

Fnord666 (889225) | more than 3 years ago | (#35769776)

(that said, ill have a look once the fire brigade leaves - sounds cool!)

Don't forget to bring your facebook login. No, I'm not kidding. Fail.

ARC3D (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766916)

There are already much better alternative to photosynth for free 3d reconstruction.
www.arc3d.be has a new prototype version online that gives you a complete dense and textured mesh.. no more sparse point clouds!

Re:ARC3D (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766946)

Fuck off. Free means free as in speech around here, not "open source upload tool to a proprietary web service".

Re:ARC3D (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35767048)

Free means free as in speech around here, not "open source upload tool to a proprietary web service". So take your ad and kindly fuck off!

Re:ARC3D (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35772744)

Free means "no cost" around the real world.

Guess you didn't check out 3dtubeme. No download and no source provided. It also requires a facebook account just to check it out. ARC3D is infinitely more open than this pile of shit.

Slashdot effect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35767028)

Still works.

For a second... (1)

Bomazi (1875554) | more than 3 years ago | (#35767090)

...I hoped to hear about a breakthrough in artificial photosynthesis. How disappointing.

Nice post.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35767314)

Nice useful post. Thank you.

Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35767462)

Seems my iPad can handle your webGL project just fine.

slashdotted (1)

deathguppie (768263) | more than 3 years ago | (#35767790)

21 comments and the site is already down.. not ready for prime time yet... or was this a test?

"This really impressive thing MS did 3 years ago?" (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 3 years ago | (#35767942)

"This really impressive thing MS did 3 years ago? We made a ripoff of it! And it doesn't work right now!"

Exciting news.

Re:"This really impressive thing MS did 3 years ag (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35768470)

Really? Then how dare Microsoft build their own C compiler? What a ripoff!

And if it is done in WebGL and works reliably across a range of browsers, that is surely a Good Thing.

On the other hand, we can't really tell as indeed their website melted down.

Re:"This really impressive thing MS did 3 years ag (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35768504)

So, they're bringing the site slowly back online, but to see anything beyond the front page they want to scrape and rape your facebook friends list. Ick.

Re:"This really impressive thing MS did 3 years ag (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35769066)

What makes you think this will scrape your friends. You should have a little evidence before making claims like this.

Re:"This really impressive thing MS did 3 years ag (1)

ConceptJunkie (24823) | more than 3 years ago | (#35769486)

Why else would you need to give them access to that information of they're not going to use it.

Making this thing a Facebook app is a giant slice of FAIL.

Re:"This really impressive thing MS did 3 years ag (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35771464)

The fact that when I visited the site with facebook open in another tab it immediately asked me to allow it access to my friends list. Which (perhaps not here, to be honest) but usually, is just an invitation to the app to let them spam all my facebook friends with notifications. Something I refuse to do, having been on the wrong side of that far too frequently.

Re:"This really impressive thing MS did 3 years ag (1)

yacc143 (975862) | more than 3 years ago | (#35768792)

Hint, does not work for my FF4 on Linux. And trying to click on any of the links gives me a facebook login page. Sick.

Facebook? Uggh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35768436)

One of the mirrors keeps asking for a Facebook account. I have a Facebook account but I'm not logging into it to view some random web site.

Server Status - Online Again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35768536)

I want to update you guys on the server issues we where getting traffic north of 10MB/s, we have started more servers and things seem to be able to take the massive data load right now. I will post here again to keep you updated. Whom posted comments about bad code and so on can think again, the data being loaded is fairly large so per request on the webpage is very large. I am not pointing any fingers here I am simply saying things seems to be up and running again.

Re:Server Status - Online Again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35768920)

OMG, 10MB/s. Are we supposed to be in awe now? Amateurs.

Re:Server Status - Online Again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35768960)

Project was just put online few days ago, it was not populated to take such a load as it was. It is in Public beta and someone was clever enough to post it here, This is being worked on and now for a while everything is online.

Please understand however you want it.

Load has more then doubled since I posted this previous comment.

Requires Facebook Log-in? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35768592)

Can only see the first picture, clicking on a new one prompts for a facebook log-in. wtf?

Re:Requires Facebook Log-in? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35768688)

The Webpage is in very early Beta testing, Google account login will be coming up soon and normal viewing after that. Facebook logjn verification does not take any of your data like some applications do on Facebook, it is simply login you in to be able to make comments and likes as it is now. Along with the possibility for you to make your own models.

Re:Requires Facebook Log-in? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 3 years ago | (#35769444)

Too bad, you're still not fucking getting it. Deal with it.

Add Web Workers (1)

westyvw (653833) | more than 3 years ago | (#35768746)

I wonder if they are using Web Workers? Distributing the work while people are visiting the web site would surely help speed up the processing and distribute the load. Nothing to do with the site being down, just a thought after I saw this page: http://blog.0x82.com/2010/11/22/map-crowd-reduce [0x82.com]

Site kind-of working right now... (1)

Zaiff Urgulbunger (591514) | more than 3 years ago | (#35768940)

The site is responding *very* slowly for me, and says:

Our servers are experience a huge amount of traffic. We will be back very shortly. Thank you for your patience.
Update: we are setting up new servers quick for handling load of traffic. We hope we can get things up and running very soon. Thanks again!
Update: Traffic has soared till 14 M/B second but we now have clones that are accesible at this point. The server balancing is kicking in now, meanwhile you can go to any of the following mirrors:

Thanks for your patience! We are working hard to keep things up in this traffic. (This kind of hit us by surprise)

However, I can only view one image... all the others require me to log into facebook and allow access to my personal info!! So... that ain't gonna happen.

Re:Site kind-of working right now... (2)

andres32a (448314) | more than 3 years ago | (#35769118)

You know what? You are right about the facebook thing. We will take that away and allow viewing of models (creation would it though) from anonymous users.

Re:Site kind-of working right now... (1)

ConceptJunkie (24823) | more than 3 years ago | (#35769506)

That's a good idea. I wouldn't mind connecting if I saw what it was all about and wanted to make something, but requiring FB just to view makes it look like a fake site to lure people in so it can spam their FB accounts.

I am a FB user, but I avoid the apps; too many of them are evil.

Re:Site kind-of working right now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35770104)

> I am a FB user

Boo

Re:Site kind-of working right now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35772514)

User testing successful Users say no to Facebook, Facebook is removed. That's what the headline says on the web-page now. Good to see that some web-developers listen to their user-base.

Re:Site kind-of working right now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35770384)

In all seriousness, there is no way I'd let a third party site access my Facebook info. The 3D stuff you're doing is really cool, but by requiring Facebook for any part of it (viewing or creation) you're losing a lot of potential users. In other words, you need an alternative login system (as well).

Re:Site kind-of working right now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35772538)

Seems like Facebook will not be needed after all, good some developers listen.

Re:Site kind-of working right now... (1)

mattr (78516) | more than 3 years ago | (#35774598)

I totally will not use the site because it requires FB.

Went in and tried though.

Let me just make a normal account there.

M.R.

Re:Site kind-of working right now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35770452)

I can only view one image... all the others require me to log into facebook

facebook.com is 127.0.0.1 here for good reason. Workaround: refresh the page and you get another random image.

Facebook?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35770392)

What's wrong with this site? It keeps trying to connect me to something called facebook.com. From what I've heard that is a highly malicious website.

It will not require facebook accounts for viewing. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35770716)

I get this in the front page:

"Announcement: We will lift the facebook account verification for model viewing by monday. You guys are right: it's plain dumb. We are not trying to spam you! "

http://getsatisfaction.com/3dtubeme/topics/how_to_view_models_without_a_facebook_account [getsatisfaction.com]

what, no mention of Hugin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35771058)

Hugin - Panorama photo stitcher
http://hugin.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]

Goal: an easy to use cross-platform panoramic imaging toolchain based on Panorama Tools.

With Hugin you can assemble a mosaic of photographs into a complete immersive panorama, stitch any series of overlapping pictures and much more.

apt-get install hugin

Reading the comments (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35772488)

Its really funny reading a lot of the comments here, it seems like the experiment the site made worked 100%, it get some load tests done in the newly opened beta, it got a clear user testing.

Number one does indeed listen to their user base and will remove the Facebook requirement, has made a statement about it on the front page that it will go away. People then still bitch about it here that it requires Facebook, read the changes it will go away.

It did some load testing, what is required to spread this massive amount of RAW data across the web to a selected amount of users.

Got some people to start commenting on the product in the support forums what they would like to see changed. And it seems like the Facbook issues the creators are very open to suggestions, different to many web-services I have seen.

Think this experiment seems to have been successful.

Reading the comments here is as hilarious as any other web-based comments or forums. Always say the worst thing even if you dont know what is really behind.

I wish them luck with this project.

Re:Reading the comments (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35772560)

Indeed, and there's no way that you have anything at all to do with the project.

You've fooled us all...time to move on to telling us how great Microsoft is, and how your next phone will have Microsoft Windows Phone 7.

Yes, those folks at this 3d site that many of us will never again visit because they lamed-out with the Facebook stuff (after all, who needs another ID?), are indeed brilliant, if you say so yourself, since you ARE they.

lame troll is lame

Stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35833966)

I don't use Facebook, so I won't use this either.

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