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All Star Trek TV Coming To Netflix

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the hulu-minus dept.

Sci-Fi 272

tekgoblin writes "This is great news for all the Star Trek fans out there. Starting in July, every episode from every Star Trek series will be available for Instant Watch over Netflix. Right now Star Trek TOS is available for Instant Watch, and the movies, but that's all. Soon it will all be here for our viewing pleasure."

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Simply (2)

pasv (755179) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766250)

Made my day hearing this!

Re:Simply (5, Informative)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766358)

No ST cartoon.

Re:Simply (1, Funny)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766530)

And nothing of value was lost.

Re:Simply (1)

r.stallman (2030484) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766500)

Made my day hearing this!

Couldn't you have just recorded it from TV using Windows Media Center so you could watch it whenever you wanted including when offline?

Re:Simply (4, Insightful)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766592)

Probably there are lots of us who aren't willing to invest much time in collecting videos to watch, instead preferring to mostly stream what we can find when we have time. The other choices are either too time consuming, overpriced, or legally risky.

Re:Simply (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766704)

Well, that's the thing- if you DL them, you Always have them, and can watch them whenever you want, however you want.
If you stream them, you need to be on the internet (at broadband speeds), and are at the mercy of the streamer. If they decide to stop offering the series, too bad!

Re:Simply (1)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766768)

Not everyone agrees that wanting a thing entitles one to that thing. That's the problem I have with your solution, frankly. Fighting injustice with a counter-injustice may feel good for awhile, but it doesn't generally work very well long term.

Re:Simply (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766834)

While I find it humorous that a guy with a UID of R Stallman is suggesting WMC, in this case he's right. it isn't like you have to do...well much of anything if you want to record with WMC. Any cheap USB cap card will do, I personally have the basic cable plugged into mine. Simply pick a show, choose "record series" and...well there is no step three, that's pretty much it. Hell my dad can record with WMC and it took him years to figure out where defrag was on WinXP.

So if we were talking one of those shows that aren't one pretty much 24/7 then I'd agree with you but ST is on basic cable pretty much every single day, and with WMC it is beyond simple to just have it watch for the things and save them all for you nice and neat.

And the way we've seen IP holders suddenly get their panties in a wad and take stuff back, such as the games they yanked off of GOG or the books they yanked off Amazon if I was into trek I'd just go ahead and get the episodes in a way I can keep them without worrying about take backs or streaming issues.

So I'd say this one is brain dead simple: There are no legal issues with regards to time shifting, the shows are on practically 24/7, and choosing a whole series is as simple as "record series" so I don't see how more simple anyone could make it, short of a single script that would magically download the whole series and burn them onto tasteful Lightscribe discs with the captains faces on them.

Re:Simply (1, Informative)

SpooForBrains (771537) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766610)

Bah. USA only.

Nerd-gasam (1)

Starteck81 (917280) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766260)

That is all.

Re:Nerd-gasam (1)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766602)

Ah god NOOO, that's not the image I want with breakfast!

Netflix: The Wasteland (1, Interesting)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766926)

From Netflix Canada:
'Star Trek' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: The Motion Picture' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: First Contact' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Nemesis' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Generations' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Insurrection' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Evolutions' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Voyager: Season 5' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Voyager: Season 1' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Voyager: Season 2' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Voyager: Season 3' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Voyager: Season 4' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Voyager: Season 6' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Enterprise: Season 1' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Enterprise: Season 3' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Season 1' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: The Animated Series: The Animated Adventures of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Voyager: Season 7' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Enterprise: Season 2' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Enterprise: Season 4' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Season 2' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Season 3' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek III: The Search for Spock' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek V: The Final Frontier' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: The Next Generation: Season 1' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: The Next Generation: Season 2' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: The Next Generation: Season 4' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: The Next Generation: Season 6' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Season 1' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: The Next Generation: Season 3' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: The Next Generation: Season 5' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: The Next Generation: Season 7' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Season 3' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Season 2' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Season 4' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Season 5' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Season 6' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.
'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Season 7' is not available but you might enjoy these titles.

In short Netflix has nothing. No Star Trek for Canada. I'll spend my money on bandwidth and hard drive space.

Oh, and their sorting sucks too.

We will be back right after the break (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766264)

after we all have to read some inane banter about the latest blockbuster-video-replacement-companys current inventory is so much better than the last

why not tell us whats coming up next on CNBC and the Cartoon Network while you are there

In my daughter's word(s) (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766268)

Awesome!!

I share her sentiment. I'm especially looking forward to Deep Space Nine being available - we already own TOS, so having it on Netflix is of less importance to us.

It's a good day for nerd-dom.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1, Informative)

Noughmad (1044096) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766286)

Awesome!!

I share her sentiment. I'm especially looking forward to Deep Space Nine being available - we already own TOS, so having it on Netflix is of less importance to us.

It's a good day for nerd-dom.

If you haven't seen DS9 yet, don't. It's by far the worst Star Trek series. And trust me, I've seen them all.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766330)

Wasnt Star Trek Enterprise the worst?

Also, as someone who started watching from TNG, would it be a good idea to watch TOS?

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766338)

I saw TNG before seeing TOS.

Sure the graphics are rubbish - and it looks very low budget (especially in the beginning), but the storylines are much nicer, and Kirk punches tons of people in the face.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766356)

TOS is great, as good as TNG.

Enterprise is better than DS9, by far.

Enterprise is shit though, DS9 went from good to worse than shit.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766762)

Enterprise and DS9 both relied on serial plotlines. I didn't like the time-traveling alternate-future sparkly-people stuff in Enterprise, but I did like a lot of the one-off episodes. It was not shit.

In the later seasons, DS9 got really deep into a complicated, ongoing story. If you weren't into it, you wouldn't be able to appreciate it, but we when watched in syndication (a new episode every night), those were some of our favorite episodes from any Star Trek series ever. It didn't go from good to shit, it went from simple to sophisticated.

If you were a true fan, you would know that Voyager is the only Star Trek series that truly sucked.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766386)

Most of the two first seasons of ENT aren't that good (but it can be said to be better than the first two seasons of TNG - all of the shows started not so well), the last two seasons of ENT are really really good, with the exception of the final episode and two-three weak ones, all of them are worth it.

The shows are very different.

TOS is more theatrical and old-fashioned. While that makes it somewhat silly in comparison to the rest of Star Trek, it's also its charm. The atmosphere, the colours, the music, the surrealism of the sets makes even the bad episodes enjoyable for me. And there are episodes that are a must-see (The Devil in the Dark, The City on the Edge of Forever, etc.)

I disagree that DS9 is the "worst", although I certainly enjoyed it the least. It's like a completely different show, a space station filled with civilians that are too often central part of the action, all episodes are tied to a highly religious society (with awful design), there is a show-long arc, the show gets very dark. I didn't like it because it was too different and it was slightly dragging to stay seven seasons in the same place, but it also had one of the most wonderful episodes of all Star Trek, and the big arc wasn't all that bad.

It depends on what you want from your TV (2, Informative)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766452)

TOS is a series that was originally meant to be more like the Twilight Zone, different characters each episode. It still keeps the characters from having a ongoing story. There is no story arc spanning episodes although the book versions do tie the episodes together. The stories themselves are close to Sci-Fi in that they explore the now by just slightly changing the now to make us re-examine the facts. Simple example: Rather then examine black vs white race issues, the race issue is shown by two people who are both black and white, just different sides. To "us" there is no difference to them there is. This shows just how silly race differences are.

TNG most hated change was the kid. For some reason TV must have a kid in it and people hate kids and Wheaton was the most hated of them all. Wonder what ever happened to him. The characters also become more like the crew of the Love Boat, in that they had from the beginning long established relationships, parent-child, ex-lovers. The difference is clear in that TOS never had an episode aimed purely at introducing the cast. TNG did it and needed two episodes.

It also did something else, the most powerful most capable characters, were white humans. Spock from TOS was gone, replaced why a white android and various white male humans. It lacked the edge. Maybe that was a good thing, maybe a token black woman on the bridge was no longer needed to show a society that had moved beyond racism. Maybe.

Finally, the approaches of the crew were stellar opposites. TNG was all about endless meetings. Crisis, Enterprise about to be blown up in ten seconds, MEETING time! Kirk would bust some balls, Picard would listen to suggestions. It seemed all a bit eighties to me.

DS9 was a radical departure, first off, the kid again, two this time... don't they learn? They ditched the enterprise and sayed a big Hello to story arcs... it was a soap in space. And where as Kirk always tried to do the right thing, DS9 firmly brought in politics especially US politics of screwing your allies any time you can. They didn't think anything of betraying their allies if it suited them at that moment only to suck up to them next time. This wasn't the brave new world, it wasn't Kirk either kicking ass OR accepting that humans didn't always get it right BUT willing to learn. This was Senate Hill in space.

Voyager went back into space but dumped all sense of ethics at the spaceport. Kirk would never have stood for it. Janeway did anything to get home, including mass genocide. Star Trek, how far can you fall.

Enterprise... well that answered that question didn't it. The opening trailer showed only US spacecraft. TOS had russians, blacks, aliens in the same crew. Enterprise, USA all the way.

Perhaps it is important to remember that each series reflected its time. TOS was a by product of the hippy era and Gene Roddenberry had created a story where the future was bright. Racism, hunger, war. These things had been overcome and now we could get on with the fun stuff. Exploring new worlds.

The other series were as much a product of their time. The "management is everything" culture of the eighties. The "US is right and we don't need the rest of the world" of later years.

Each series stand on its own and frankly I don't think any true fan of one can possibly like all the others. Personally, my favorite is still TOS (although to be honest, more the books then the TV show) I can stomach some TNG (the ones without wesley) and the rest. Just no thanks. Didn't bother with the reboot. It might be good, it might not be but I think it is not... the ones I heard whosaid they liked it also seem to like the later tv-shows. Fine for them but then it ain't aimed at me.

One franchise, so many different audiences. Kind of amazing if you think about it.

Re:It depends on what you want from your TV (3, Informative)

Fnkmaster (89084) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766526)

Wonder what ever happened to him.

Oddly enough, you'll occasionally find Wil Wheaton posting on Slashdot. Or at least he used to (Slashdot username: CleverNickName). I think he still does some acting gigs here and there though I haven't seen him in anything in a while now.

Re:It depends on what you want from your TV (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766606)

He was recently on The Guild [watchtheguild.com] -- seasons 3 and 4.

Re:It depends on what you want from your TV (3, Funny)

BlueLightning (442320) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766640)

Oh, and don't forget The Big Bang Theory. Classic.

WHEATON!!!!!

Re:It depends on what you want from your TV (2)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766810)

wil is also on fark.com (from what I understand).

his latest rant about the TSA was worth reading. yes, even old movie/film stars will get hassled by the grope squad.

Re:It depends on what you want from your TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766872)

He's a redditor, just fyi. Fairly active one at that.

Re:It depends on what you want from your TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766716)

The other series were as much a product of their time. The "management is everything" culture of the eighties. The "US is right and we don't need the rest of the world" of later years.

Perhaps, but DS9 was more, "Hey, where did we shove those docs that guy - what's his face - the one with the name I can't pronounce. You know, the one about the space station?"

The hilarity between JMS pitching Babylon 5 to Paramount, which then suddenly came out with DS9 aside... Honestly, DS9 was the best Trek. You had all the lack-of-salt-shaker-medical-devices of TNG, and none of the stupidity and watering down of evil that was Voyager. (Seriously? The Borg - the defining enemy of TNG, whose very idea scared a generation of child-geeks to death whenever they went to sleep - were turned into nothing more than a comedic foil for Janeway? BAAAAAAAAH.)

Uh, yeah, let me move past my ranting against Voyager. Yeah. DS9. TNG plus politics, and more importantly, no shortage of Klingons. They should've never made Voyager or Enterprise - they should've made a Klingon series.

'sides, I challenge anyone to name a more awesome character than Garreck. YOU CAN'T, SUCKERS. IN YOUR FACE.

Re:It depends on what you want from your TV (1)

flappinbooger (574405) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766984)

Probably the most thorough and insightful commentary on the various startreks I've seen on here yet.

Having the STs on netflix is long overdue and very welcome. I see it as a milestone in a way, solidifying NF as THE vast repository of our media content.

Aaaaaaand ...... with their quite reasonable price, might in the long run cut down on .... "illegal downloads"? Maybe?

No, I loved Enterprise (1)

unassimilatible (225662) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766974)

I honestly don't understand the nerd hate on Enterprise. Sometimes I just think it's nerds being nerds, i.e., opposition to the T'Pol hotness. Picture Conan O'Brien doing his nerd voice, shaking his fingers, "Ohhh, must not have nudity on Star Trek, violates the canon!"

I loved Enterprise, except for the ending, and was sorry it was cancelled.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766344)

If you haven't seen DS9 yet, don't. It's by far the worst Star Trek series. And trust me, I've seen them all.

Meh I wouldn't say that. DS9 isn't THAT bad. Takes a bit of getting used to, and sometimes you feel like wanting to stop hearing Bashir's annoying accent, but otherwise its not that bad. Its just.. different.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766398)

every star trek sucks a bit in the first two seasons.

ds9 has garak, weyoun and lots of romulans. they rock.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1)

MindCrusher (1249502) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766408)

IMO DS9 is the best. I love the Cardassians. Garak is one of the greates characters in Star Trek, together with Quark. I saw only TNG, DS9 and half of the first season of Voyager and from TOS I've seen few episode so I might not be a representative Star Trek fan.

Agree, Garak was awesome (1)

unassimilatible (225662) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766982)

I'd been thinking of re-watching DS9, which I had never watched in first-run, just on DVD years after cancellation. The finale was lame, like on Enterprise though.

READ IT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766746)

says TOS - the original series and its cause in many places of the world its about to fall out of copyright

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766420)

Awesome!!

I share her sentiment. I'm especially looking forward to Deep Space Nine being available - we already own TOS, so having it on Netflix is of less importance to us.

It's a good day for nerd-dom.

If you haven't seen DS9 yet, don't. It's by far the worst Star Trek series. And trust me, I've seen them all.

How can we trust you? Your taste in Trek is abysmal.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (0)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766502)

How can we trust you? Your taste in Trek is abysmal.

Maybe he is a vorta.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766580)

How can we trust you? Your taste in Trek is abysmal.

Maybe he is a vorta.

Heh. Poor eyesight!

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (3, Interesting)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766448)

That's a highly subjective opinion.

My personal ranking is:

  1. ST:DS9 - I liked that it had a large overarching plot
  2. ST:TNG - It's a classic
  3. ST:Voy - Yes, it had plenty of lame bits but at least it wasn't as shitty as Enterprise...
  4. ST:Ent - The best description I've heard of this is "If you just make it through the first two seasons it gets better..."
  5. ST:TOS - It may be a classic but it's still crappy by today's standards, and Spock frequently makes appeals to logic which are actually purely emotional

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766748)

I'd put Voyager at the bottom, personally. It had cheese factor ten. For its time it is by far the cheesiest. TNG at the top; most successful implementation of the original formula, and the best talent by far. (Nimoy is still my favorite Trek actor, but taken as a whole...) I thought Enterprise was better than most people thought it was. I guess Nazi aliens don't bother me so much when we STILL have plenty of real Nazis running around on this mudball. Shit, the Bush family fortune came from funding the Nazis and everyone knows it.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1)

RevWaldo (1186281) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766804)

DS9 FTW, mainly because it didn't rely on made-up-on-the-spot fake science or holodeck claptrap to drive/resolve the storylines.

.

Re:In my daughter's word(s) (1)

thatbloke83 (1529851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766918)

Awesome!!

I share her sentiment. I'm especially looking forward to Deep Space Nine being available - we already own TOS, so having it on Netflix is of less importance to us.

It's a good day for nerd-dom.

If you haven't seen DS9 yet, don't. It's by far the worst Star Trek series. And trust me, I've seen them all.

Whereas for me personally DS9 is the one I enjoyed the most. And trust me, I've seen them all.

You cannot kill the good stuff... (1)

Tirs (195467) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766276)

Despite the CBS moronic policy on Star Trek, Roddenberry's legacy will prevail!
The suits there think we still live in 20th. Century! (no Fox intended)

KA'PLAH!

Netflix's future... (1)

cyberfin (1454265) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766278)

... is guaranteed for now me thinks.

In related news... (1, Insightful)

Noughmad (1044096) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766292)

All Star Trek TV already on the Pirate Bay.

Re:In related news... (2)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766308)

But not available for instant streaming tailored to your connection's bitrate.
 
I'd rather stream it via netflix legally (which I already pay for), rather than hoard it illegally on a drive I then have to buy and maintain.

Re:In related news... (0)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766370)

Maybe not, but my NAS sure streams what I want when I want. Every series on it, no problems streaming. Not sure what netflix has over my NAS.

Please, enlighten me.

Re:In related news... (2)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766446)

Serious question: Do you have it working on your phone or tablet? Can you hit it from computers outside of our network, like from work?

Re:In related news... (2)

adolf (21054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766594)

Seriously: I have my collection of stuff at home available from wherever, however, via Subsonic.

It works well enough for pocket-sized video (and works great for audio), and it's free. I watched an episode of Dirty Jobs the other day with this using 3G connection on my Droid

That said, I also pay for Netflix, and my family watches a ton of streaming stuff that I myself would never bother with putting on the network.

Comparing a bunch of local storage (even if you can get to it remotely) to Netflix is like comparing a large, populated bookshelf at home with the local library. Neither is going to have everything you might ever want, and they serve rather different purposes.

Re:In related news... (5, Interesting)

GrumpySteen (1250194) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766534)

> Not sure what netflix has over my NAS

1) It's legal.
2) The studios that produced the shows get some revenue which correlates to the level of interest people have in Star Trek, which encourages them to produce more material.
3) Netflix gets some revenue, which correlates to the level of interest people have in Star Trek and encourages them to continue providing Star Trek and maybe other sci-fi series.
4) The actors who worked on the series get some money via residuals, making Star Trek seem like a decent career move for other actors.
5) Paying $8 a month isn't a hardship and you're contributing to our culture by paying those who produce our entertainment rather than leeching and not giving back for what you receive.

Re:In related news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766666)

1) It's legal.

You presume it's not legal content on his NAS. Perhaps he purchased the DVDs and ripped them (in a jurisdiction where ripping is allowed). Or perhaps he didn't purchase a thing, but downloading is legal (such as in The Netherlands - where this netflix service is not available and even if it were, this deal is for the U.S. market only - as usual).

2) The studios that produced the shows get some revenue which correlates to the level of interest people have in Star Trek, which encourages them to produce more material.

How much revenue? Wouldn't seeder/leecher / download statistics also correlate to the level of interest people have in Star Trek?

3) Netflix gets some revenue, which correlates to the level of interest people have in Star Trek and encourages them to continue providing Star Trek and maybe other sci-fi series.

warning: self-referencing.

4) The actors who worked on the series get some money via residuals, making Star Trek seem like a decent career move for other actors.

Except that anybody who's been reading about Star Trek is more likely to get the idea that people loathe Star Trek. They hated what was done to TNG, they only marginally liked DS9, and hated Voyager (and let's face it, the series finale -was- ridiculous.. but I guess if you're getting cancelled, it's better than leaving the ship floating in space with an uncertain future that would only be filled in by self-acclaimed fanfiction authors... not that I'm looking at you, StarGate:Universe).

In addition - there's new movies being made. Unless fans really want Star Trek to pull a classic comic book move and spawn a zillion different 'universes', any new series would have to take these new movies into account. In addition.. NEW MOVIES. This means actors people are already going to be familiar with. But, oh, they're not TV actors.. they're movie actors. How many of them are likely to accept a move to television series? Maybe if they're desperate (Laurence Fishburne). The alternative is that they cast people who somewhat look like the movie actors. I'm sure there's thousands of people who want to be the TV counterpart of Zachary Quinto's Spock.

5) Paying $8 a month isn't a hardship and you're contributing to our culture by paying those who produce our entertainment rather than leeching and not giving back for what you receive.

That $8. You're right, that's not a hardship. It's also not exactly a cash cow - and a good chunk of it is going to Netflix, not to the people "who produce our entertainment". Netflix's forays into producing content themselves via a sistercompany aside as it's not -that- content that you're consuming.
Let's say you watch one episode of TNG per day. And ONLY watch that one episode if TNG per day, so that your $8 doesn't get diluted with portions also going to the producers of Glee or whatever. Now let's say that the producers of TNG, via the above, get a royal 75% that monthly payment - $6.
There's 178 episodes, so that's about 5.5 months, but you have to pay monthly so let's make that 6 months. 6*$6 = $36.

On the other hand, there's a DVD box set. 49 discs, looks like it's $249 new.
$249! Even if the producers got only a paltry 15% of that, that's $37.35 and they've already made more from -that- than they do your Netflix.

Again, that's presuming they even get 75% of your monthly $8.

So if you -really- wanted to support the producers, you'd buyt the DVDs. You're not really much less of a leecher by paying $8 to Netflix for pretty much unlimited, completely undedicated, viewing and in the end only gives you a streamed version with quality and availability issues, than the guy downloading it, when compared to people who buy the boxset.

If another legal (in terms of having signed contracts for distribution and such) service were to appear that would cost only $1 per month and the producers would get pretty much zilch and worked just as well as Netflix, I'm sure people would move to that service in droves and -still- use the exact same bullet points you're using now.

Re:In related news... (5, Insightful)

mblase (200735) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766690)

Paying $8 a month isn't a hardship and you're contributing to our culture by paying those who produce our entertainment rather than leeching and not giving back for what you receive.

Sums it up nicely. For years we've been complaining that we'd gladly pay a reasonable fee for unlimited streaming, and not only does Netflix finally deliver that, it does it on more internet-enabled devices than any other provider.

Re:In related news... (1)

darjen (879890) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766816)

The pirate bay can be a real pain in the ass sometimes. You never know how fast your downloads will be, what will be available, or what the quality will be. Yes, I have used it in the past myself. I still do occasionally for stuff Netflix doesn't have, like Disney for example. But since I now have a decent paying job, I have a Roku with Netflix that streams 1080p beautifully over my wireless network. Much easier to deal with IMO and not that expensive.

Re:In related news... (5, Interesting)

theCoder (23772) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766648)

Unfortunately, as a Linux user, I am not allowed to stream Netflix because of their (or the studios) rampant paranoia. So I am not a Netflix customer. I guess having less customers is better than someone maybe copying the stream.

Re:In related news... (1, Insightful)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766700)

Oh please, that's quite possibly the lamest excuse in this day and age. 2006 called, they want their lame Micro$haft excuses back. A 1080p Roku box runs $99 [amazon.com] these days. The 720p model is even cheaper. Want more utility out of your box? Try a used Wii, Xbox 360, PS3, Mac Mini... or just repurpose an old PC as an HTPC. Anything built in 2008 will run 1080p just fine (mine does). A good number of TVs and Blu-Ray players ($60) have netflix/pandora support built in.
 
Get over yourself, and look in to getting that penguin tattoo removed from your ass.

Re:In related news... (1)

Trelane (16124) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766722)

Or subscribe to Amazon's service. Vote with your dollars, folks.

Re:In related news... (5, Insightful)

theCoder (23772) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766732)

I wasn't blaming Microsoft, I was blaming Netflix, and the various copyright holders that control them. Your own Roku example illustrates that there's no technical limitation to streaming on Linux (Roku, IIRC, runs Linux). I already have a nice HTPC running Linux. As you point out, I could by another piece of hardware to enable me to spend more money to subscribe to Netflix, but frankly, it's just not worth it to me. If someone expects me to be their customer, they should treat me like a customer, not like a pariah.

Re:In related news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766734)

> just repurpose an old PC as an HTPC

That's what I did - well, a 2009 PC actually. My HTPC runs MythTV. As far as I can tell, netflix won't stream to it, although everything else does this just fine (youtube, hulu, etc). I'm certainly not going to buy another computer just to stream Netflix when the one I have now could do it if they only pulled their head out of their ass and stopped with the vendor lock-in already. I don't even have a convenient place in my entertainment center for another box.

netflix on linux works fine with a few shims (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766870)

The shims being: Internet Explorer in Windows XP running fullscreen on a VirtualBox VM on Debian Squeeze (64 bit).

Re:In related news... (0)

devent (1627873) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766848)

To buy and maintain? An external hard disk is now 70$ for 1TB. You can buy that once plugin it to your computer with USB and you are finished.

StarTrek Original is from 1966, ST TNG 1987, ST DSN 1993, ST V 2001. I see no moral obligation to pay for 10 years, 17 years, 24 years and 45 years old series, that were countless times on TV already. In my opinion they should all be in the public domain already, because they paid them self more than enough. The actors have their pay, the producers have their profits, why should I have any moral obligation to pay them again to watch the same episodes just in a different format?

Re:In related news... (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766432)

All Star Trek TV already on the Pirate Bay.

Streaming is superior.

really says who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766604)

LOL
A) you need a online computer
B) you need to pay
C) READ A HARDCORE. With internet pricing in canada or the usa its too pricey with the isp gouging ...

SO once i dl i never have to pay , never have to be online cane put to any device i want and enjoy.
YA streaming now is for morons. YOUR AN ABSOLUTE MORON IF YOU STREAM.

Re:In related news... (2, Insightful)

Dr. Spork (142693) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766656)

Yeah, I think that Netflix streaming is the first commercial video service which is better and more convenient than piracy. Because let's face it, piracy is pretty darn convenient, and if you invest a minimal effort, the quality is also pretty good. For now, piracy still wins on the amount of content available, but I'm glad to see that Netflix is catching up!

Re:In related news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766962)

really i find it inconvenient that they only service the USA.....pirate bay services the world

genuine native american teepeeleaks etchings (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766294)

farewell to kirk passage; sd 2011.4

not many bad guys survive a photon burst

you even knew that? cool. as a matter of fact, we're finding photons (in
their 'singular' form) to be quite useful as a general purpose life
extender.

seems like we already have enough stuff to escape a few of us out of
here, but if we were a bit more careful, we could extend our stay until we
could all go along. plus, by then, we'll have a clear destination?

looks like we're having a little trouble with math, science & history.
like we can't tell what happened, because there's now so many versions of
what we know didn't happen, &/or when, & how many innocents were
damaged/killed. seems like real history is catching up with us a bit
(definitely you & i), & may help us see, if we let it.

there's also some barely identifiable bad guys, as we're sure you know,
they peddle death, & some other not good stuff, for money etc...

it's not like they can be blown out of the sky, but we knew it would be
like this. we have a few billion little ones that we've grown very fond
of, so we're working on keeping them undead. as you likely already know,
their dna is highly advanced, & they are the vast majority, they have
better eyesight than birds, & are fully photon (intentional healing)
functional. hurting even one of them (or any of us) sets the whole cosmos
on edge. we've heard that from space, it now looks like we're making the
planet into a black hole. do we need a black hole, or any big holes, in
the planet?

the fog of tax free (for some) war can do that? did we say tax free?
pardon, the non-taxpayers actually profit ($billionerrors$) on the heavy
weapon (keeping ALL sides supplied including mexico) murder massacre
business outings. so that's good?

babys rule, with tiny chubby soft fingers, advanced dna etc..... unclear?

the creators' newclear power is available now. safe, non-polluting, end
user friendly, affordable (free). so that takes care of that.

cease aggression, disarm

edit/remove georgia stone

leave

& it could be that the unproven aliens have hymens (not likely)? so, if
there's only .25 billion of us left (by mistake, honest), there'll still
never be enough leisurely pleasure seeking to be done by the victorious
(again) chosen ones, as it was written? fortunately (according to
unbiblical rantings of the unchosen humans), there's also wildcard
physical possibilities unexpected but well intended. it can already be
felt by even the least sensitive of us, in between all the shaking &
exploding. in spite of ourselves. feels like we were all chosen? hard to
separate? not designed to kill or be killed.

I wonder how they will do it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766300)

I wonder if we are in store for HD versions of the episodes? I've heard that atleast with TNG the scenes with cgi were rendered in standard def. 35mm for the character scenes which is do-able. I'd think that most of these scenes the effects could be redone by someone in their basement compared to 1987. It is star trek they should let the fans add the effects back in. They would do it for free to get their name in the credits.

Re:I wonder how they will do it. (3, Informative)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766800)

I wonder if we are in store for HD versions of the episodes? I've heard that atleast with TNG the scenes with cgi were rendered in standard def. 35mm for the character scenes which is do-able.

No, AFAIK the special effects on TNG were mastered on video. The majority of the show was shot on film, but transferred to video for editing and the addition of most special effects.

This means that even if the original high-resolution source film remains intact, any "HD" transfer of TNG would still have to redo the effects since even the "originals" only ever existed as SD video- AFAIK there aren't (and never were) any higher quality versions.

Given the craptastic quality of 80s NTSC video, there's no way you could "clean" or upscale them so that they looked like anything approaching HD- they even looked crap at SD (*)- and more importantly so that they didn't stand out like a sore thumb against the higher quality rescanned film footage.

I'd think that most of these scenes the effects could be redone by someone in their basement compared to 1987. It is star trek they should let the fans add the effects back in. They would do it for free to get their name in the credits.

That sounds nice, and I'm sure that there are many skilled fans who'd do it for free. However, I suspect it's not as simple or "free lunch" for the studios as that.

For one, there's coordinating such efforts, ensuring that (e.g.) the style of effects being done by different teams have a consistent (and not jarringly different) style.

And if people are working for free, how far will they accept being told what and how to do things by the studio? What if their personal fanboy view of how things should be done or what should be concentrated on disagrees with that of the studio? (No, what hardcore fanboys want and think should be done with a show isn't always the best from a general audience point of view- indeed, pandering to the self-indulgences of obsessives can sometimes damage the general appeal of a show and destroy what made it great in the first place).

And will such people be working in their spare time? What if the studio needs X done for release in 18 months time, but some guy working in a particular area can't spare the time from work? Of course, they could pay him... which starts to blur the line between employees and free contributions anyway.

So it's not as simple as you might think.

(*) I always used to wonder why the likes of TNG looked so "soft" and generally bad- the same problems that I could see with US-based video shows- when earlier US film-based shows looked okay. Turns out that the older shows were shot and edited on film, but that at some point during the 80s there was a trend towards shooting on film but transferring to video for editing. Apparently, the BBC etc. used their own film-based prints of older shows, which obviously wouldn't have suffered from NTSC video's defects, but they clearly couldn't do this with video-edited shows. And believe me, even watching TNG on a bog-standard moderately-sized colour television set in the UK, the difference in quality was obvious.

Congratulations nerds of US of A (0, Offtopic)

TheP4st (1164315) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766312)

Great news if you live in a part of the world where netflix is available. Attention /. editors, the tubes are global and so are your readers.

Re:Congratulations nerds of US of A (4, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766460)

Great news if you live in a part of the world where netflix is available. Attention /. editors, the tubes are global and so are your readers.

A. The US is not small.
B. We get stories about your lovely CCTV system.
C. It's only THIS year that the US will have parity with the UK when airing Doctor Who.

Git.

Oh quityerbitchen' (3, Insightful)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766474)

Seriously, not every story on Slashdot, or on any site, needs to concern the entire world. In particular Slashdot is a US site and the US has a significant Internet using audience, so US related stories are of interest.

It in no way harms you to have some US news on the site. Indeed if it bothered you that much, I wouldn't think you'd come here. Slashdot has many US centric or US only stories.

Personally I think you are just being bitter because Netflix is a toy you can't have. Here's a hint: This is not Slashdot's fault, and not even Netflix's. It is the fault of your law makers and the media industry. Netflix would love to expand everywhere as that is just more money for them. They have expanded to Canada recently, but it is still problematic. They wanted to expand to the UK in 2004, but all the red tape stopped that.

If you want Netflix, let your politicians know that they need to stop with allowing the media companies so much control over distribution.

However don't cry that the US has it.

Re:Congratulations nerds of US of A (1)

bledri (1283728) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766664)

Great news if you live in a part of the world where netflix is available. Attention /. editors, the tubes are global and so are your readers.

  1. So slashdot should only post stories about stuff that's available to the entire planet?
  2. The "tubes" are global, but most submitters live on a small patch of said globe.
  3. Be a nerd, use a VPN for !@#$ sake.

Just checked... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766318)

"Right now Star Trek TOS is available for Instant watch"

It isn't here.. nor most of the movies either.

Confused.

Re:Just checked... (2)

mccalli (323026) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766376)

Yep, it is. Exactly how officially however...

allstepisodes.com [allstepisodes.com]

Cheers,
Ian

Re:Just checked... (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766542)

Now that's an awesome site. Bookmarked.

Good (1)

C0R1D4N (970153) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766320)

To think just 6 or 7 years ago I was buying every season of DS9 at close to $100 a pop on DVD in terrible cases that have mostly broken.

Re:Good (1)

hellop2 (1271166) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766528)

Tell me about it.. I wasted all my time downloaded every episode. And now, they're just easily watchable online?! I'm pissed now!

Animated Series? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766336)

Looks like they qualified it by specifying
"Live action" Star Trek. So probably not all of them.

Huh... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766348)

Can't figure out how torrents work?
Don't already have the entire box set of everything star trek ever made?

What kind of geek are you.

Who cares? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766372)

Are people going to endlessly rewatch the few decent episodes of this camp space opera?

Re:Who cares? (1)

bledri (1283728) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766668)

Are people going to endlessly rewatch the few decent episodes of this camp space opera?

Yes, Mr. Anonymous Doofus, some people will.

Awesome (1)

TouchAndGo (1799300) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766374)

Not that I needed much of an excuse to re-watch TNG and DS9, but it's nice to have one.

Again? (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766404)

I'm pretty sure this was already announced a couple months ago.

Also, I'm sure in typical Netflix style, before you get 20% through it, you'll start getting notices that the content will expire in a couple weeks.

I'm pretty sure I have about 15% of my current Netflix queue about to expire and become unavailable. Hopefully they'll start to address this stuff soon, so we can have a consistent collection of content rather than a "here one day; gone the next" collection,.

Re:Again? (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766428)

Also, I'm sure in typical Netflix style, before you get 20% through it, you'll start getting notices that the content will expire in a couple weeks.

Well, 104 weeks.

religious training linked to need for impotence tx (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766450)

& a # of other less savory ailments. no investigations are planned in the parenthood, as the allegations were chosen to remain unproven, as is the case with the missing monkey hymens.

genuine native americans; day of boeing going (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766494)

stop spraying crap in our sky right away please. now. today. thank you.

Missing One (1)

FrootLoops (1817694) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766458)

Starting in July, every episode from every Star Trek series will be available for Instant Watch over Netflix [...] the original Star Trek, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager, and Star Trek: Enterprise

*Ahem*, what happened to The Animated Series [wikipedia.org] ? It's almost entirely awful and is more or less non-canon, but it's still a Star Trek series.

(The article does go on to say "all five live-action Star Trek series", but the bit I quoted and the title are not technically accurate. Of course I have to point out such an inaccuracy, given the topic.)

Re:Missing One (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766818)

Fortunately, they are on the much better download service eMule. Who cares about this if all I want is already on p2p networks for a long time?

Movies? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766480)

As far as I can tell, only the most recent reboot is available for streaming. All the others aren't available yet.

Bring it to Europe already! (1)

Elbart (1233584) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766484)

I don't want to realm the shadowlands of the intertubes to get a Trek-fix when I want it, theoretically, ahem. Let me pay for this legal service. Please!

Remastered TOS (1)

lyinhart (1352173) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766490)

I'm guessing they'll only stream the remastered version of the Original Series, which is too bad. Some of the redone visual effects look sorely out of place.

Instant watch? In which world? (1)

SLOAero (951351) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766532)

The summary: Right now Star Trek TOS is available for Instant Watch, and the movies, but that's all. Uhm, maybe you live in some sort of amazing world where Star Trek TOS (and the other series) wasn't taken off instant play months ago - in which case that is totally awesome. But where I am there aren't any episodes to watch right now. None. I wish that wasn't the case and I'm very, very happy that the various episodes/seasons/series of Star Trek will be available in the near future, but to say there are any available right now is a bit of a lie. Unless you're mixing TPB with Netlifx.

civilians fired on in cairo, military rule failing (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766560)

guys lead off a nuke sub in handcuffs yesterday, shooting involved? ? not that it's stuff that really matters, or worth paying any attention to for current historical value, as we have a negative one, or none? as we remember from the teepeeleaks etchings, the chosen ones holycost never ends, so long as we remain both fear based contributors & hostages/targets. that's why god invented censorship, depopulations, history editings/deletions etc...? some undeclared, unproven wars have been suspended based on barrages of the truth about seemingly unrelated things emerging.

All Star - Trek TV ... whats Trek TV? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766572)

I know what All Star means, but I never heard of Trek TV, is that some special tv station?

Not worthy (2)

sproketboy (608031) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766608)

If you don't already have all the box sets, figurines and toy communicators then you're not worthy to be on slashdot.

TOS is not available online now (1)

LordNimon (85072) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766644)

Am I missing something? When I go to netflix.com, it says that the TOS is not available for instant streaming.

Re:TOS is not available online now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35766786)

Am I missing something? When I go to netflix.com, it says that the TOS is not available for instant streaming.

Yes you are... The content will not be available on Netflix until July.

Time to look up that ONE episode.... (1)

mblase (200735) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766682)

There was one episode of ST:TNG from season 1 that I never, ever got to see the beginning of. No matter how many times it popped up in syndication and reruns, I always tuned in just after the title sequence.

I'm not sure how, but I believe this is related to the phenomenon where, when there's a popular syndicated show you almost never watch, on the rare occasions that you do tune in you always see the same episode.

Good! Add TNG and the X-Files... (1)

RevWaldo (1186281) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766788)

and maybe BBC America will stop showing them and have room to start showing, oh, I don't know, BRITISH programming!?

.

Finally! (1)

rainmayun (842754) | more than 3 years ago | (#35766864)

I've worn out watching DVR'd reruns of ST:TNG and I've been annoyed that DS9 hasn't been on streaming or syndicated re-air or anything other than a DVD somewhere. I'm looking forward to seeing that series again.

Excellent, maybe I'll buy NetFlix now! (1)

multipartmixed (163409) | more than 3 years ago | (#35767002)

I got busy during ST:DS9, right at the height of the war with the Dominion.

I keep meaning to catch up via BitTorrent, but I've ah, procrastinated a bit.

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