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'Anonymous' Plans Sony Boycott On April 16

Roblimo posted about 3 years ago | from the suing-your-customers-never-ends-well dept.

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Here's an excerpt from PCMag: "Say you're a hacker trying to cripple a major electronics company for suing its own users: how do you launch a cyberattack without harming the people you're trying to protect? In the case of hactivist group 'Anonymous,' which has spent the week targeting Sony to retaliate against Sony's ongoing lawsuits against PlayStation 3 modifiers, you take it offline. Anonymous is staging a 24-hour, in-store boycott at Sony stores around the world on Saturday, April 16. So far over 1,000 people have RSVP'd through Facebook."

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If they're going to hit the employees (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | about 3 years ago | (#35769640)

They'd better start at the top, with the decision maker (the guy you always see petting his white pussy.... cat), and the lawyers who execute his orders. Mid level people are as expendable and meaningless and 'innocent' as the consumers are.

Re:If they're going to hit the employees (2)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | about 3 years ago | (#35769730)

Having large number of consumers turn up at stores and block sales is going to target the top guy. I hope they make sure that they know how to identify Sony sponsored trouble makers. Most interesting would be if they manage to get some real customers confused with the protesters and violently kicked out by security. Now that would make a story :-)

Re:If they're going to hit the employees (-1)

countertrolling (1585477) | about 3 years ago | (#35769778)

And you're going to 'block sales' without trespassing or obstructing traffic how exactly? You know, I hope you people who do these things don't object when right wing wackos boycott Ford for 'promoting' homosexuality [freerepublic.com] or anything..

Re:If they're going to hit the employees (5, Interesting)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | about 3 years ago | (#35769952)

And you're going to 'block sales' without trespassing or obstructing traffic how exactly?

'cmon. Has everybody forgotten how to protest. If the protesters want to get away with it there are so many ways this can be done. Wait until other customers start to arrive in the store. Go into the store (together with more friends than there are assistants). Pretend to be a customer. Demand attention then ask long and annoying but plausible questions about something expensive best of all if it's something you really do want to buy somewhere else. Act unsure; keep all the assistants busy. Then give up. Walk to a different part of the store. Repeat. Alternatively stand outside and be loud. Most customers won't come. Alternatively come in the same colour as the shop assistants [schneier.com]. If asked give misleading advice, especially to go to the store round the corner.

Anyway you probably don't care too much about being charged with trespassing. That's the whole point of civil disobedience.

You know, I hope you people who do these things don't object when right wing wackos boycott Ford for 'promoting' homosexuality [freerepublic.com] or anything..

Of course I object; to the homophobia. I don't care about the fact of the boycott if it wasn't for such a bad reason.

P.S. The best way to boycott Sony is not buying their stuff. Buy a Wii instead. That's what I do. I won't be turning up in a Sony store tomorrow because I haven't cared about Sony for years.

Re:If they're going to hit the employees (3, Interesting)

WillDraven (760005) | about 3 years ago | (#35770144)

Alternatively come in the same colour as the shop assistants [schneier.com]. If asked give misleading advice, especially to go to the store round the corner.

Even better, give them brutally honest advice and history lessons. Tell them about the rootkits, the disabling of features on customers devices, the lawsuits, and anything else screwed up that Sony has done to their customers. It would be nice to have some pamphlets made up with all the sordid details (or at least an overview and a URL to find the details) to hand out.

Re:If they're going to hit the employees (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770428)

Just as folks have done with Microsoft, right? "Embrace, extend and extinguish"

Surely it's time for a worldwide boycott?

Re:If they're going to hit the employees (0)

MrQuacker (1938262) | about 3 years ago | (#35770026)

They are just living up to the regressive republican ideology: Do as I say, not as I do.

Sony has stores? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769644)

I really need to get out more..

Re:Sony has stores? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769696)

27 in the US. Mostly along the coasts. I live probably a good 1500 miles from the nearest one.

Re:Sony has stores? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769804)

There's one in the nearest mall. I feel lucky.

Re:Sony has stores? (1)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about 3 years ago | (#35769948)

27 in the US. Mostly along the coasts. I live probably a good 1500 miles from the nearest one.

And a lot more than that in Europe. Finland alone has nine of them [sonycenter.fi], six in or near Helsinki (metro pop. 1,300,000), and one each in Tampere (region pop. 300,000), outside Turku (region pop. 250,000), and in Kuopio (region pop.100,000).

Re:Sony has stores? (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | about 3 years ago | (#35770338)

The Sony Centres [wikipedia.org] in Europe- or at least the UK- are independently-owned franchisees that focus on selling Sony products. Sony themselves don't operate the stores directly.

Re:Sony has stores? (1)

MachDelta (704883) | about 3 years ago | (#35770396)

Seriously? There are like, 70+ in Canada. I think there are four in my metro area alone (~1mil pop).

Re:Sony has stores? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770728)

Apple stores are modeled after Sony stores -- today forgotten fact.

i've been boycotting before anonymous... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769668)

I don't think a single day is going to do anything, they need to practice this religiously like every weekend or something.

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (4, Insightful)

SilverHatHacker (1381259) | about 3 years ago | (#35769716)

They've got 1000 people for a worldwide boycott. I agree, this protest will be like a dust mite crawling across Sony's monocle.

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (4, Insightful)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | about 3 years ago | (#35769740)

Doesn't sound like much, but that will be enough to quadruple the in-store crowds around here.

I can't walk by the Sony Store in the local mall without comparing it to the Apple store a few steps away and guffawing at how far Sony has fallen from relevance. If it weren't for their gaming division, they'd be no different from Generic South Korean Electronics Co., Ltd.

And if gamers would just stop giving them money the company might actually be forced to take stock of its own behavior.

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (1)

John Saffran (1763678) | about 3 years ago | (#35769820)

Sony (and other japanese electronics companies) still have a captive market in japan, but globally the "Generic South Korean Companies", I assume you mean Samsung or LG, are individually worth more than than the sum of all the japanese electronic consumer companies and are clearly outcompeting both japanese and chinese companies at present in most key sectors.

People who witnessed them in their heyday in the 80's and 90's might still base their comments on past reputation, but anybody keeping up with the times knows better.

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | about 3 years ago | (#35770018)

The consumer divisions of all these heavy industries are like ticks on a rhinoceros. Or even more cynically, they are fronts for organized criminal counterfeiters and smugglers.

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769846)

That's my point, it is enough to "quadruple" the in-store crowds but that's just for one day and for one store. I'm certain that a single sony store gets about 200-300 customers per day at the most, and the fact that there are dozens of stores worldwide, 1000 people here and there won't do too much especially not for one day. What they need is 10x that amount of people who are willing to participate every weekend. However, Sony can kick people out of their stores and people aren't allowed to protest inside malls so this might end up in complete failure.

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769990)

I'm sure this will be modded down, but as a gamer and PS3 owner, I disagree. I don't have any complaints with Sony other than I wish that they would introduce more features to PSN. My main reason for buying the PS3 was to play games and watch blu-ray films and for this it has been great. IMHO, it's a good piece of gear (quite open for what it is) and has some really good games - and slowly, they have been introducing new features (3D, Move, etc). That's all I'm really looking for in a gaming console - not Linux, homebrew or anything else - and to that degree Sony has delivered. YMMV.

Personally, I can't wait for Uncharted 3.

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (1)

improfane (855034) | about 3 years ago | (#35770080)

You sound like a shill because the PS3 is not open. Not anymore, if you're running PSN that means you have upgraded and lost the OtherOS feature.

3D? seriously? 'Sony has delivered'?

Do you work for NMS?

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770166)

I see, I'm a shill because I happen to disagree - is that how it works? What was meant by open is that it offers USB connections, replaceable HDs, Bluetooth peripherals - more than other consoles offer. I don't care about OtherOS - I already have a Linux box - and from what I understand from talking with friends, Yellow Dog wasn't that great to begin with. As previously mentioned, I bought the PS3 mainly for gaming and blu-rays - and it is great for that. Sorry! :-)

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (0)

matt_gaia (228110) | about 3 years ago | (#35770244)

No, actually you're a shill for showing a bit of common sense, which doesn't work very well for the discussion. Bringing up actual facts, such as Sony just kicks people off PSN if they detect CFW, or that the actual lawsuit is about a DMCA violation tends to anger the 4chan converts here on /. You'd be better off convincing a birther that Obama is from Hawaii than convincing people that GeoHot is in court due to his own actions.

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (3, Interesting)

malkavian (9512) | about 3 years ago | (#35770710)

Would this, by any chance, be the same DMCA that's been decried from the very start as a Corporate lobbied removal of existing liberties?
My, I think it just might.
GeoHot happened to disagree that a corporation has the right to dictate what you can or can't do with an item you've purchased, so he worked out how to do whathe wanted on his own machine.
Now, he distributes that knowledge to a variety of people who are interested in doing the same. Personally, I'd love the ability to have the 'Other OS' functionality back on my PS3. I put my money where my mouth was in supporting the idea that it should be there (I hadn't really been much interested in purchasing a console, but I liked that a corporation would open up a console for the home brew/enthusiast crowd; the very same ideals I had when I was a kid/teenager in the 70s and 80s), and thought 'hell, I can play a game or two on it to justify the spend, and it'll be good to reward a company for even attempting to do something slightly enlightened in this age of trying to lock everything down and out. More than anything, I think I was disappointed in Sony execs. It was a dishonourable thing to do (strike a deal, then renege on it). Western companies, sure I can see them doing just that, but acting with dishonour in the Japanese culture?
Wow.
Still, I find your argument that we should all cheer on Sony because they choose to charge someone under an unethical law for attempting to regain his side of a deal that was struck at the point of payment to be a little naive.
I bought the console simply because it gave me options to do A and B.
After I buy, the company decide that now they only want me to do B. I can do A if I want, but they'll prevent me doing B for as long as I choose to do A.
Should I ever choose to do B, then I can never do A.
Someone works out a way to do A and B again, and the company immediately drag them to court.
Personally, I'd cheer anyone on who attempts to get me my original deal back again. GeoHot did that. So I applaud him for it. Yes, he's in court for his own actions, but that doesn't mean I'm on Sony's side in this; I find their dealings with me to be dishonourable. I consider the DMCA to be unethical.
Really, the USA has fallen a long way, and I somewhat suspect the idealists who started the American war of Independence would be spinning in their graves.
There was an unfair levy placed, and a stripping of liberty on the country, so they threw a whole load of tea into a harbour, and were remembered for centuries as heroes who started a rebellion. I'm a Brit, and I'm pretty much an "establishment" person. I'm still behind the guys who did this all the way.
I wasn't behind the DDOS and compromising of companies. I am behind the peaceful civil unrest of people turning round and saying "this is unjust", and spreading the message. I'm pondering taking part myself, and calmly explaining to people that anything they buy on features could suffer exactly the same fate, and that the company now has an established track record for dishonouring their point of sale promise of functionality.
Personally, I really hope the media takes this and runs with it. It'll be interesting to see how much of a PR hit Sony takes with this one, and how it starts to affect sales at time of austerity, where everyone wants to be able to rely on their vendor.
No, I don't want to see Sony fail. But I want them to understand that actions have consequences, and their action in removing the original deal has a price. And I'd really like them to understand that this may be a price that in future they'll know they don't want to pay.
Ah for an idea world. I suspect it won't hurt them that much, and they'll carry on, knowing they can renege on any deal with impunity. We, as customers, cannot.
What a lovely world us mere mortals live in 'eh? Where's that representation when you need it?

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (1)

ZombieBraintrust (1685608) | about 3 years ago | (#35770670)

I have been really happy with Sony as well. I may spend a few bucks on the 16th to show my support for Sony. Not sure what I would spend my money on. Nothing I want at the moment.

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (1)

noobermin (1950642) | about 3 years ago | (#35770058)

And that will happen because you complain in comments on mainstream (more than it is not) website for "nerds". At least someone, or some people, are doing something.

Re:i've been boycotting before anonymous... (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 3 years ago | (#35770188)

They've got 1000 people for a worldwide boycott. I agree, this protest will be like a dust mite crawling across Sony's monocle.

And you're assuming all those people will actually show up and participate. On the other hand I'm betting - worldwide - the number of actual participants will be less than 20. There might be a few dozen more that show up at the store but don't really do anything an objective observer would consider "participating".

Anonymous is Anonymous? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769698)

If Anonymous participants RSVP'd through Facebook then doesn't that make them no longer Anonymous? If they show up at a Sony store then they will be associated with the anonymous group. Are they really Anonymous?

Re:Anonymous is Anonymous? (1)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | about 3 years ago | (#35769738)

Well that depends if they signed up for facebook with their real ID or not. Maybe anonymous is really targetting idiots who use their own name on Facebook.

Re:Anonymous is Anonymous? (1)

stonewallred (1465497) | about 3 years ago | (#35770416)

Every true Anon has at least one if not several troll FB IDs. That is why I take the FB claims of their user numbers with a bunch of salt.

Re:Anonymous is Anonymous? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770446)

If Anonymous participants RSVP'd through Facebook then doesn't that make them no longer Anonymous? If they show up at a Sony store then they will be associated with the anonymous group. Are they really Anonymous?

They won't be very Anonymous after they all get booked for trespassing.

Re:Anonymous is Anonymous? (1, Interesting)

zill (1690130) | about 3 years ago | (#35770790)

They can get kicked out of the store, but they can't be arrested for trespassing. The "Open for business" sign in front of the store means the store is inviting the public to enter. It's not trespassing if you have been invited.

Avoid RL (2)

gilbert644 (1515625) | about 3 years ago | (#35769708)

These guys should avoid doing real life events, it will only underscore how few they are, constantly fighting fire with fire.

Re:Avoid RL (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769818)

But but but a whole 1,000 people have RSVP'd on Facebook! 1,000! On Facebook!!! We all know how big a number 1,000 is (it's not over 9,000, but it's still big!), and we all know that everything on Facebook is legit and honest, so this means SONY WILL BE SHUT DOWN!!1!1!!!

Re:Avoid RL (0)

guspasho (941623) | about 3 years ago | (#35770454)

Right, 1000 or whatever number they end up with will be nothing compared to whatever arbitrary standard we capriciously decide upon from the comfort of our computer chairs. Nevermind that it might be impressive by itself. We are so much wiser and more prescient in our cynicism. Put more generally, nobody should really ever attempt anything, because everything is futile.

Nihilism FTW!

Re:Avoid RL (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770636)

Put more generally, nobody should really ever attempt anything, because everything is futile.

OP is saying nothing about any other causes, he's just referring to Anonymous. Their cause here isn't without merit. But if you're going to stand up against a big bad corporation, there's better causes to back. Like corporations that fund terrorism, screw over people in third world countries by employing them in sweat shops and messing up their environment or engage in deceptive business practices (see: Big Tobacco) while lining the pockets of corrupt politicians. The right for a few folks screwing around with expensive toys in their living rooms is cause all right, but it is small potatoes compared to millions of people in need all over the world.

Re:Avoid RL (1)

bky1701 (979071) | about 3 years ago | (#35770456)

Because nobody ever turned out at that Scientology stuff, right? Go back to cowering in your hole.

Re:Avoid RL (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | about 3 years ago | (#35770638)

Right start, but I think you missed the finish.

"Ooh - I know this one! Let's get every member of Anonymous to show up, then we can take pictures of the participant all smiling, and post them to Facebook where we can tag them and ... uh... "

These guys should avoid doing real life events ... because then they wouldn't be Anonymous anymore would they? In fact it shows how fragile the fight to keep anonymity is with mega-billions all pouring into tracking initiatives both gov and private ... and naive Web 2.0 sharers!

What a crock of ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769714)

That's right! You too can join the movement! Head to any of several stores that stock Sony's wonderful products! Draw attention to our ..er.. Sony's array of top notch electronics! On sale now!

Don't just stop buying our goods, come see the goods that you are not going to buy. Draw attention to them! Study our wonderful gadgets that you know you want! I mean, Sony's gadgets.

As advertised, er, reported on, in PC Magazine!

Um.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769718)

If you are RSVPing.. doesn't that take away the anonymity?

Japan had an Earthquake / Tsunami and now this??? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769728)

Hasn't Japan suffered enough?

Do they really need an army of basement dwelling losers boycotting one of their biggest companies?

Re:Japan had an Earthquake / Tsunami and now this? (1)

stpere (450329) | about 3 years ago | (#35769792)

Hmm, that argument doesn't hold very far IMO.. they could save a lot more money by just withdrawing the lawsuit altogether versus what they are going to lose from this action.

...no (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769748)

Just continue the DDoS. A key part is the "human time spent" ratio, and having to do this kind of thing for every corporation or group that deserves it is sure to book weeks out of every person's day.

Boycott? (4, Insightful)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | about 3 years ago | (#35769758)

Erm, don't you need to *not* show up at a store in order to boycott?

A boycott is a form of consumer activism involving the act of voluntarily abstaining from using, buying, or dealing with a person, organization, or country as an expression of protest, usually for political reasons.

sit-in == protest. boycott == protest. and yet, boycott != sit-in.

Re Anonymous? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769848)

More to the point, don't you need to *not* show up a store and identify yourself to be "anonymous"?

This entire idea is laughable from start to finish.

Re:Boycott? (1)

cheeks5965 (1682996) | about 3 years ago | (#35769850)

You saved me a post. I'll add the obligatory,
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Isn't a sit-in just trespassing, and won't the stores call the cops? In the past sit-ins only worked because they were at university offices and such, and the schools chose to create less of a scene and make it a teaching moment. I don't expect stores to see it that way.

Re:Boycott? (1)

cheeks5965 (1682996) | about 3 years ago | (#35769912)

Anonymous is staging a 24-hour, in-store boycott at Sony stores around the world

Also, I'm pretty sure the Sony Stores aren't open 24 hours...

Re:Boycott? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770232)

Anonymous is staging a 24-hour, in-store boycott at Sony stores around the world

Also, I'm pretty sure the Sony Stores aren't open 24 hours...

You see, you answered your own objection and you don't realize it. Let me break it down for you even though it's already insultingly simple:

A) Sony stores around the world. Didja catch that part? I hope so, since you quoted it yourself.

B) Time zones, man. They exist. It might be 3am for you but somewhere in the world it's 1pm. You knew that, I hope.

Your brain, is it really so hard to use? You really need other people to explain these basic things for you? Oh I get it, you think you're so clever that you found a REAL OBVIOUS omission that somehow 1000 people missed. Welp, time to stop patting yourself on the back Sparky.

Re:Boycott? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770258)

You sound like you're patting yourself on the back pretty hard too, asshole.

Re:Boycott? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770432)

You sound like you're patting yourself on the back pretty hard too, asshole.

Being a genuine idiot: the time-tested way to feel like other people are assholes. You're just mad that I burst your bubble. Next time you want to feel clever cheeks^H^H^H^H^H^H AC, be sure you have a solid basis.

Re:Boycott? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770484)

sit-in => protest, boycott => protest, and yet, sit-in =/=> boycott.

There, fixed that for you.

Alternatively, is_a_protest(sit-in) == is_a_protest(protest), etc.

Sony's gonna SLAPP (0)

russotto (537200) | about 3 years ago | (#35769762)

Those 1000 people now get a crippling lawsuit and, for a select few, a free ride to the nearest Federal holding facility for trial on bogus charges.

Boycotts are legal (4, Interesting)

erroneus (253617) | about 3 years ago | (#35769770)

I'm still not going to sign anything associated with "anonymous." That's just asking for trouble. But before anonymous started making headlines, I have been vehemently against Sony and its products and my history shows it. I just hope this boycott catches on. Sony needs to be taken down a notch.

Damn you brainless consumers!! Don't you know that Sony is bad?

Re:Boycotts are legal (0, Troll)

countertrolling (1585477) | about 3 years ago | (#35769870)

Damn you brainless consumers!! Don't you know that Sony is bad?

So is Ford Motor Company [freerepublic.com]..

Two way street? Goose - gander? Knowwhatimean? Knowwhatimean? Nod nod.. wink wink..

Re:Boycotts are legal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770352)

Sorry, but I don't know what you mean.

The boycott against Sony (of which I've been a participant for years now) is due to their track record of anti-consumerist policies. They planted a rootkit in some of their CDs and laughed off accusations until the class-action suits came around. They retroactively removed an advertised feature from their product, and are suing their customers who are just trying to get it back. In all, undeniable evilness.

Ford Motor Company... indirectly supports Gay Marriage, which only the Christian Fundamentalists think is a bad thing.

Apples... Oranges...

Re:Boycotts are legal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770356)

Um...there seems to be a misunderstanding here.

Sony is bad because they punish their own customers. They intentionally put viruses on their products, introduce incompatibility, engage in anti-competitive behavior that is harmful to the economy, deliberately cripple their own products and then sue their customers for attempting to repair the products they purchased, and so on.

What has Ford done, according to you? Supported civil liberties for American citizens? And you think this is even remotely comparable?

Re:Boycotts are legal (1)

FLEABttn (1466747) | about 3 years ago | (#35770042)

Don't you know that Sony is bad?

The question is do they care. They don't. OtherOS and any potential property rights implications are so low on the totem pole for your average person that Sony doesn't even look bad from it. It's hardly being mentioned outside of tech sites, and even then only on possibly Slashdot or homebrew sites does Geohotz sit in good favor.

Re:Boycotts are legal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770344)

Sony is just a company out of many. There are others who are far more important or evil, going from "defending" Asange and wikileaks to bashing a media goods company, is plain idiotic. They lost most of their political support through this and all credibility. Honestly, now they really do look like a bunch of better organized script kiddies.

ObFuturama (1, Insightful)

istartedi (132515) | about 3 years ago | (#35769802)

Bender: Hear me, hear me! Stop eating Popplers! Stop eating them with honey mustard sauce......stop eating them with tangy sweet and sour sauce. Stop eating the new fiesta Poppler salad. Stop taking advantage of the money-saving 12-pack. Stop enjoying Popplers on the patio, in the car, or on the boat. Wherever good times are had! Ow!

Sign me up. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769810)

May be it's connected to anonymous, but something needs to happen.

YEAH! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769814)

That'll show them!

You guys serious?
Not only will you get thrown out, you will cause a scene that will end up getting more people towards the store.
Shit doesn't work.

Morons being morons.

Re:YEAH! (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 3 years ago | (#35769878)

Who actually buys from the Sony store anyway? They don't have a loyal cult like Apple does. I imagine almost all their sales are via other retail channels.

If only Sony could get pictures or video of it... (1)

Captain Spam (66120) | about 3 years ago | (#35769886)

So let me get this straight. A group whose primary strength lies in maintaining an air of mystery and anonymity on the internet is going to stage a real-life sit-in boycott.... in the stores of a company which makes and/or sells a significant amount of image and video recording equipment. Much of which is on-display and functional in said stores, or otherwise easily accessible. And they're warning them about this beforehand.

Oooooookay...

Re:If only Sony could get pictures or video of it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769934)

This isn't that anonymous, this is the other anonymous, anonymous.

Re:If only Sony could get pictures or video of it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770594)

So let me get this straight. A group whose primary strength lies in maintaining an air of mystery and anonymity on the internet is going to stage a real-life sit-in boycott.... in the stores of a company which makes and/or sells a significant amount of image and video recording equipment. Much of which is on-display and functional in said stores, or otherwise easily accessible. And they're warning them about this beforehand.

Oooooookay...

I smelled IRL honeypot, too...

tinfoil hats for all!

WTF??? (1)

lennier1 (264730) | about 3 years ago | (#35769902)

Boycott it only on that day? Wouldn't that make them plain old hypocrites?

Call me old-fashioned but shouldn't Sony products be avoided anyway if there's a reasonable alternative?
Hidden stuff (e.g., LCD panels) is a different story, similar to products where Sony is involved as shareholders. But at least try to avoid Sony-branded stuff (TV, laptops, ...).

Re:WTF??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770020)

> shouldn't Sony products be avoided anyway

Exactly - I don't know why anyone would buy anything from Sony, given their behavior since years. Who's still giving them money? And would you cut it out already?

Re:WTF??? (1)

Lehk228 (705449) | about 3 years ago | (#35770140)

sounds like it's more of a combination sit-in meatspace DDOS than a "boycott"

show up ask dumb but plausible questions, use up resources but don't buy anything.

Re:WTF??? (1)

Rizimar (1986164) | about 3 years ago | (#35770522)

Sounds just like Whirl-Mart [breathingplanet.net], which is where people protest by showing up to stores in huge groups and aimlessly walk around the store without putting any items in their carts to make it harder for actual shoppers to spend money there.

Though, I think that the best way to go about things successfully would be to inform the public why they should participate in a legitimate boycott without resorting to jackassery if at all possible.

Re:WTF??? (1)

Rizimar (1986164) | about 3 years ago | (#35770472)

Reminds me of when people would post chain messages on MySpace's bulletins saying how that on some special day, they were going to boycott oil corporations and not fill up at a pump. Those people posting didn't realize how stupid and pointless it was considering that it's only for a day, you continue to drive, and you are still going to fill your tank before and after that event.

Philosoraptor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769904)

If Anonymous shows up in person, are they still Anonymous?

One-day boycott is dumb (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35769920)

Unless it's something you have to buy everyday. So I buy the day before or after.

Even worse, this is limited to Sony stores. I'd love to see their percentages versus Sony products sold in WalMart and Best Buy.

Reminds me of those gas boycotts.

Want to make change? If a couple million PS3's and all games all hit GameStop, eBay, etc and the like on the same day, the flood would cripple the market value of said console. Problem: you'd have to give up your PS3. Moral: you can't simultaneously boycott someone and be their bitch.

I protested with my wallet too... (1)

mykos (1627575) | about 3 years ago | (#35769924)

...by giving graf_chokolo and geohot money. My household is free of Sony products too, and has been that way since the rootkits.

If it isn't obvious... (1)

noobermin (1950642) | about 3 years ago | (#35769940)

In a reply to most of the commenters out there who seem to think either anonymous is forsaking anonymity or that this won't help practically, please realize this is in a way a symbolic protest against Sony. Hell, all protests are symbolic, holding up some sign and chanting nice words doesn't change anything, but it gathers attention to your cause, which is very important if you are a minority.

Yes the boycotts actually accomplish more, etc, but this at least demonstrates a more visible opposition to them which again is important.

One Day Boycott? You pusses. (1)

Sarusa (104047) | about 3 years ago | (#35769980)

After the Geohot site visitor account rape-age I'm on a one decade boycott of all Sony products.

But from RTFA, it looks like this is more of a sit-in. I guess Anonymous are all too young to know what a 'sit-in' is.

Re:One Day Boycott? You pusses. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770336)

They are too young. They've run out of legitimate targets so are going after The Man stopping them from pirating His video games.

U R do it rong (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770008)

Just a bunch of dumbass script kiddies. Those who really want to get things done need to resort to other means. Getting sued by a law firm? Flood the law firm with snail mail spam or endless briefs and summons. Waste their time with legitimate looking legalese paperwork. They get to bill SONY, so they are doing all the dirty work for you, and costing them money.

Or you know, show off you l33t haxxorz skills by making a console mod they cant block with simple bit switch.

Fuck Sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770090)

Again.

(sure get alot of mileage out of that since the rootkits)

My home is 100% sony brand free. Has been since they pulled the rootkit crap. Will remain so until... forever. Fuckem.

Sony? (2, Interesting)

Sj0 (472011) | about 3 years ago | (#35770096)

This may be a silly question, but who still buys Sony anyway?

They're constantly trying to shove their expensive, non-standard shit down everyone's throat, leaving you with devices whose removable memory costs several times more than the standards everyone else uses.

I understand that the Playstation 3 has some great games, but why support a company that's consistently more interested in building an empire than working with its customers?

Potentially a whole lotta nothin' (2)

gront (594175) | about 3 years ago | (#35770202)

Pretty big gamble by members of the anonymous crowd: if the giant massive preplanned SHOW OUR STRENGTH RAR! sit-in ends up being 12 fat guys, 3 furries, and a couple of abhumans that finally left their parent's basement, the anon-movement will take a giant credibility hit. Kinda like when the brought down Amazon.com for a couple minutes... really showed 'em then!

Re:Potentially a whole lotta nothin' (1)

belgianguy (1954708) | about 3 years ago | (#35770758)

Yeah, I assumed they were planning on executing a "real life" Denial Of Service attack: overcrowding a store to the point that it can no longer service requests... Then again, showing up somewhere in real life has a nasty side-effect of not being anonymous anymore, which could possibly discourage some armchair rebels.

On top of that, the main point in a DOS attack is that many resources focus on a single target for a short amount of time for maximum mayhem and chaos. In this case they seem to target every Sony store, dispersing their strength into infinitesimal small portions, probably causing little to no overload and thus not disrupting anything. Such an outcome would indeed paint a less flattering picture of the collective.

Hitting Sony where it hurts will be difficult, if not impossible. Following HBGary's PR disaster, a lot of firms have teched/lawyered up, and they are, well, expecting them, so to say. Perhaps instead of attacking the behemoth that is Sony, they stand a better chance protecting the hackers/homebrewers from HBGary lookalikes when push comes to shove, provide them with a platform, give them a face...

Theory on who is behind Anonymous... (1)

jafo (11982) | about 3 years ago | (#35770390)

A friend of mine has a theory that Anonymous is backed by the US government to help them gain support for further eroding our privacy. My initial reaction was "that's crazy", but then it reminded me of Operation Northwoods [wikipedia.org], which had the backing of every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Re:Theory on who is behind Anonymous... (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | about 3 years ago | (#35770724)

Okay, some really good comments here down the page, like yours.

First, Anonymous is going to get stuck in a lexico-logical trap in that the word "Anonymous" is like trying to count on a finger - you can't even parse the results grammatically sometimes. "(Some members of) Anonymous organized the boycott, but (other members of) Anonymous disagreed."

Above your comment, poster said that at the moment Anonymous did manage to gain just the barest bit of credibility. They've moved up that scale from "first you ignore them, then you ....". That poster wondered if they would sink under ridicule when only low tier members of society actually showed up.

You raise the point that they also have an Authentication problem that's actually a really good topic for the techies here. How do you certify communications as "legit Anonymous" without being various infiltrating moles? I would qualify your statement that the *original* members of Anonymous were definitely anti-system politically, but by now the integrity of the original group is under attack by fiendish agents orchestrating stuff.

Are Public Protests Effective in 21st Century? (1)

Ron Bennett (14590) | about 3 years ago | (#35770460)

Great that some are committed at going after Sony through public protests. But do such protests really work? Or are they just public spectacles that get lost in the mass-media 24/7 news cycle...

Civil disobedience at a large enough level can be effective, such as so many people breaking the speed limit that finally the U.S. Federal mandated 55MPH limit was repealed in the mid-1990s.

However, it seems few people really care about DRM to go out of their way to knowingly break the law, let alone do so publicly.

Not sure what the answer is other than throwing a lot of money at politicians to change the laws (DMCA for starters), but good luck outbidding Sony, Disney, et al in that pursuit.

Not sure what the answer is other than individuals and small groups seeking out hardware mods / DRM crackers and sharing them among friends ... and over time, if enough people do likewise, maybe change will occur at a large-scale level, but if it doesn't, at least one will still get much of the benefits now within their local group of friends, family, etc; their tribe so to speak.

Ron

Re:Are Public Protests Effective in 21st Century? (1)

Ron Bennett (14590) | about 3 years ago | (#35770496)

Opps, should have used preview first ... wrote "Not sure what the answer is ..." twice. With that said, despite the poor grammar, that repetition emphasizes the helplessness / hopelessness many feel these days.

Ron

Re:Are Public Protests Effective in 21st Century? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770764)

However, it seems few people really care about DRM to go out of their way to knowingly break the law, let alone do so publicly.

To be honest, unless you grew up literally ON the Internet, or spend a majority of your time on the Internet as a hobby (or in most cases here, an addiction), you probably don't know much about DRM at all. I have friends and family that aren't at all Luddites, yet when I explain to them things like DRM, targeted marketing, and such... they all look at me like I'm a lunatic. I get responses of "Possession is 9/10ths of the law. I own it and I can do what I want with it. Let them try and sue me." or "Why would they care what color nail polish I look at online? Get real... No one's out there tracking everyone. You're paranoid."

I've given up. There's far too many people out there that don't know how good they had it. They don't realise that every day they're losing more rights/privileges because of corporate lobbying and the vast wealth (and thus ability to litigate) acquired by these massive corporate entities. Honestly, with everything else going on in the world, the average American has 100 other things to worry about that take precedence than worrying about a boycott or a sit-in. Bankers responsible for the wholesale theft of an entire nations retirement funds, the judiciary and banks (again) milling out foreclosures to steal your lands and property, the defense contractors and politicians have us on the brink of WWIII, record level unemployment has the crime rate rapidly increasing again across the country (after a period that brought us to our lowest crime rate), oh, and can't forget that the level of education is steadily declining, too... ...But don't worry folks, because Sony makes 3D TV's. You can see Snookie spray on her orange tan... IN 3D!!! What was the topic about again? Fuck it... gonna go play some 3D PS3.

Ignorance is bliss.

why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770470)

wouldn't "anyonymous" be better off sticking to what they do best (and are best known for), that being as far as I know execution of ddos attacks?

i don't see how anything offline is going to even make a dent in sony's bottom line let alone pursuade its ceo to do anything about it

i wouldn't be too worried about harming sony customers by ddos'ing sony's public servers. if you're stupid enough to buy stuff from sony that requires continued dependence on it then you deserve a reality check. imagine not being able to play your playstation games for a while... so terrible. if the ddos attacks continued long term perhaps these poor unfortunate pawns might even wake up and buy something else that worked. that might also draw some response from sony.

i personally don't care much for online gaming. i'd rather spend my time programming while listening to music through my sony receiver :)

Re:why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770562)

Yeah, that makes sense. Show those plebes how terrible Sony is by hitting their servers and disrupting service for the plebes. I'm sure they'll join your side. Bottom line is that 99% of people 1) don't know about, 2) aren't affected by, and 3) don't care about Sony's misdeeds.

Re:why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770566)

Did you ever see the scientology protests?

Facebook login REQUIRED? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770578)

I would really like to know more, buta FACEBOOK ACCOUNT is REQUIRED. After a quick search for more, I am disappointed to find all roads leading to this article. There are a lot of us out here who will never have a facebook login (just don't trust them with any info about me, which kinda kills the point of facebook). *** I suggest a substantial number of potential armchair sympathists will be put off by the FACEBOOK LOGIN REQUIRED link for additional info (note to Anonymous).

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35770622)

So, will Sony be paying anonymous for all this free advertising? "Down with the man! Down with the sys... Oooh, shiny! How much for this?!?"

I'm voting with my feet... or money in this case (1)

Thraxy (1782662) | about 3 years ago | (#35770676)

I'm looking for a new camcorder and will not be buying Sony for two reasons. The first reason is I don't like them anymore after they started suing their customers and the second reason, I have lots of SD cards lying around, so I don't want to buy something where I have to invest in a different standard.

TV-B-Gone (1)

brain159 (113897) | about 3 years ago | (#35770754)

Just throwing this out there, I'm not available to go do this myself, but a TV-B-Gone or similar "universal TV turner-offer" device would be useful for this action. Even if you're not visibly obviously "doing protesting", you can help Sony reduce their carbon footprints by turning off all their store display TVs for them.

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