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FBI Releases Document Confirming Roswell UFO

samzenpus posted about 3 years ago | from the I-want-to-believe dept.

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schwit1 writes "An investigator for the Air Force stated that three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as circular in shape with raised centers approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape, but only 3 feet tall dressed in metallic clothing of very fine texture."

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Last words... (4, Funny)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about 3 years ago | (#35774444)

Last noises heard from dying aliens: "Ack, ack, ack..."

Re:Last words... (4, Funny)

thomasdz (178114) | about 3 years ago | (#35774494)

Last noises heard from dying aliens: "Ack, ack, ack..."

So the aliens either were trying to speak TCP/IP or they were related to Bloom County's "Bill the cat"?
(or was somebody playing cowboy yodeling music somewhere near the crash site?)

Re:Last words... (1)

dogsbreath (730413) | about 3 years ago | (#35774516)

Um.... bill says "ack...............phhhhhhhhtttt!"

I understand he disappeared shortly after getting a job as a nuclear power plant operator in the glorious people's republic of the Ukraine.

Re:Last words... (3, Interesting)

LifesABeach (234436) | about 3 years ago | (#35774786)

Past primitive human culture's ability to survive, after meeting in some way, an advanced culture when it takes its first crap, is pretty dismal. I can not help but think what it would be like for Leif Erikson [wikipedia.org] vs. Princess Cruise Lines [princess.com] at the port of Port of Akureyri, Iceland, [www.port.is] what the outcome would be.

"What's in your wallet?" - Capital One, 2009

Re:Last words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774864)

It is how Bill Goldblum got the virus onto the alien mothership in the film where the aliens had no vocal cords but when one of them was shot he managed to produce sound.

Re:Last words... (4, Funny)

Ekhymosis (949557) | about 3 years ago | (#35774590)

Last noises heard from dying aliens: "Ack, ack, ack..."

No no, the last words heard were: "Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnn!!!!"

Re:Last words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774700)

It was probably all the fault of my great aunt Loretta, who lived next door to where the UFOs crashed. She had a Slim Whitman collection.

Re:Last words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774750)

oh wait.. his first album was out in 1954. I guess that was during her "yodeling" phase.

Great news! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774458)

We have confirmation the FBI is not a serious organization...

Re:Great news! (4, Interesting)

zill (1690130) | about 3 years ago | (#35774534)

According to Mr. _______ informant

They debriefed their informant and recorded down what he said. It doesn't necessarily mean FBI actually believe the information provided. Under the FOIA you can't just destroy the document because the source wore a tin-foil hat.

Re:Great news! (1)

icebike (68054) | about 3 years ago | (#35774842)

Exactly. In those days you could get away with lying to the feds, especially when any evidence or lack thereof was locked up in an official coverup of secret projects.

The fbi was probably investigating loose lips and the subject was spinning and yarn.

Re:Great news! (4, Funny)

plover (150551) | about 3 years ago | (#35774536)

We have confirmation the FBI is not a serious organization...

"No, ma'am. We at the FBI do not have a sense of humor we're aware of."

It's the NUKE CODES! (1)

Grindalf (1089511) | about 3 years ago | (#35774466)

I thought this was a reference to early sightings of over the horizon nuclear tests that needed to be suppressed, during the time of Oppenheimer. So I was wrong all along For Relia!!!

Questions. (5, Interesting)

webmistressrachel (903577) | about 3 years ago | (#35774470)

This raises more questions than answers. For a start, this really is on vault.fbi.gov servers, so either it's real or a VERY risky hoax.

However, assuming it's real for now, WHY HAS THIS NOT LEAD TO A FLURRY OF OTHER EVIDENCE FROM ELSEWHERE?

Clearly the mask is off now? The government know about saucers, otherwise there wouldn't be such a casual write-off at the end of the doc.

So were they short Russians? Germans who found it in a barn after WWII and got it working? COME ON FBI, do your jobs and give us a proper INVESTIGATION!

Re:Questions. (5, Informative)

ZosX (517789) | about 3 years ago | (#35774502)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread685706/pg1 [abovetopsecret.com]

Did some more research.... apparently this was declassified in the 70s and published in several books from that time. I don't know how much I would read into it.

Re:Questions. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774892)

this. why people are calling this new is beyond me. Its the entire basis for roswell

Re:Questions. (0)

intellitech (1912116) | about 3 years ago | (#35774504)

Did you ever consider that other information on the subject is likely classified? Anyway, I'm shocked that this was released by the FBI, if it actually was.

Re:Questions. (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | about 3 years ago | (#35774882)

Did you ever consider that other information on the subject is likely classified? Anyway, I'm shocked that this was released by the FBI, if it actually was.

What level of classification is "likely."

--

I'll trade you a Sasquatch scat for one of those space suits. The kid needs one.

Re:Questions. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774532)

It's a memo. There is no confirmation of the "findings". This is merely a report of what supposedly happened.

There is lots of memos about total bullshit, like Sasquatch or whatever.

Re:Questions. (1)

hduff (570443) | about 3 years ago | (#35774648)

Clearly the mask is off now? The government know about saucers, otherwise there wouldn't be such a casual write-off at the end of the doc.So were they short Russians? Germans who found it in a barn after WWII and got it working?

Obviously, they were midget meteorologists in weather balloons.

Re:Questions. (4, Insightful)

wonkavader (605434) | about 3 years ago | (#35774656)

Webmistressrachel, what this document says is that an FBI agent interviewed someone who heard a rumor.

They did that a lot. They should be many, many documents just like this one, all mutually contradictory. It's to be expected.

Re:Questions. (4, Insightful)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | about 3 years ago | (#35774834)

When I was young I thought there might be something to stories like these, then I grew up and realized that many people are doped up, drunk, compulsive liars or completely bat-shit insane. And some are all of those, all the time.

Re:Questions. (5, Informative)

Chris Burke (6130) | about 3 years ago | (#35774710)

If there's one time to ever RTFA, it's when it's a government document supposedly admitting UFOs of the flying-saucer variety exist and were found near Roswell.

Turns out this isn't that. It's the FBI noting that some dude claimed that two 50-foot saucers landed near Roswell because the nearby radar station disrupted their control mechanisms, and then doing nothing.

"Disrupted by the radar you say? Ah of course. And where are these saucers? Oh they've mysteriously vanished since you saw them the night of the full moon. Got it. Thank you, citizen. We'll definitely look into that -- might be the Russians you know."

Only other thing to say is -- good job, submitter. Made me look.

Re:Questions. (2)

mfnickster (182520) | about 3 years ago | (#35774748)

COME ON FBI, do your jobs and give us a proper INVESTIGATION!

"After performing a rigorous investigation, he have determined that an investigator for the Air Force did, in fact, state that three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico."

already happened (1)

frovingslosh (582462) | about 3 years ago | (#35774896)

" However, assuming it's real for now, WHY HAS THIS NOT LEAD TO A FLURRY OF OTHER EVIDENCE FROM ELSEWHERE? "

Already has already happened, many times. For example, respected and not discredited Retired Colonel Philip J. Corso exposed his part in this. But there is a group of crackpot disbelievers who just can't accept the truth, and just keep repeating the same nonsense like "if this were true someone would have leaked it" no matter how many times people do try to leak and expose it.

Good news, everybody. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774472)

Everyone knows it was Zoidberg, Leela, Fry, Bender, and Professor Farnsworth.

Riiiiiight (4, Insightful)

DurendalMac (736637) | about 3 years ago | (#35774474)

The document almost makes it sound like hearsay. It says an investigator stated that, but then goes on to say that it was provided by an informant. Doesn't sound terribly sound, and it says that no further investigation was done, which probably means that the FBI had a good laugh about it and then filed it away.

Re:Riiiiiight (4, Interesting)

ThunderBird89 (1293256) | about 3 years ago | (#35774568)

Agreed, this is only a filing of the report, no follow-up. It's customary in every law enforcement organisation to file every report, no matter how stupid. Hell, I've heard about the police filing a report by a guy claiming every evening, after the news ran, the newscasters came out of his TV set, and beat him. No investigation was done, naturally, but the report had to be filed, as the SOP went.

Just another sensationalist samzenpus headline, it would seem...

Probably slightly more to it than that (1)

Schnoodledorfer (1223854) | about 3 years ago | (#35774870)

I agree that it's just "another sensationalist samzenpus headline", but I think that there was probably more to the original Air Force memo than what you said. IIRC, there actually was a crash in the area, apparently of a secret airplane. The USAF would naturally want to know how much foreign spies could learn from talking to the local population. It's not surprising that the USAF would have investigators find out and document what the locals would say about the crash, no matter how crazy it was.

Re:Riiiiiight (2)

magarity (164372) | about 3 years ago | (#35774588)

which probably means that the FBI had a good laugh about it and then filed it away.

No, in the 40's it was still thought that Venus was probably inhabitable (ever read Heinlein's Future History?), and maybe Mars too, so the FBI guys probably were scared witless over a pending invasion.

Re:Riiiiiight (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774634)

which probably means that the FBI had a good laugh about it and then filed it away.

Or they were told by higher-ups or Uncle Sam not to "bother" with that. The reasons would be obvious. Cover up, panic, cold war advantage, etc.

Re:Riiiiiight (1)

t3sser4ct (1522605) | about 3 years ago | (#35774900)

Here's the text from the PDF of the actual memo:

TO: DIRECTOR, FBI
FROM: GUY HOTTEL, SAC, WASHINGTON
SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS INFORMATION CONCERNING
DATE: March 22, 1950

The following information was furnished to SA [REDACTED]

An investigator for the Air Forces stated that three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots.

According to Mr. [redacted] informant, the saucers were found in New Mexico due to the fact that the Government has a very high-powered radar set-up in that area and it is believed the radar interferes with the controlling mechanism of the saucers.

No further evaluation was attempted by the SA [REDACTED] concerning the above.

</karma whore>

Hearsay (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774482)

The document is a report outlining another individual's report. It's neither admission nor documentation of the incident by the FBI, just a record that someone has made a statement about the incident. It's worthless.

Re:Hearsay (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774706)

Sup dawg, I herd yo liek statements. So I make this statement about my display stating that my computer states that Slashdot states that you state that TFA statement you reached through what you state is TFS statement is just a statement about a statement about an observation: It's just a statement, dawg!

Asgard! (1)

improfane (855034) | about 3 years ago | (#35774484)

Just when I'm watching DS9 this comes up. AWESOME! This doesn't actually prove that there WERE actual aliens, only confirms of the original report which could just as well be bogus.

I HOPE IT IS NOT. I want me an Asgard friend* and one of those computers that lets me build what I want!

* Everyone knows that Slashdotters have no friends.

Re:Asgard! (0)

Deus.1.01 (946808) | about 3 years ago | (#35774552)

Yeah...it is as we thought...Rosswell was the work of greedy space jews (little green men episode of DS9)

Re:Asgard! (1)

isorox (205688) | about 3 years ago | (#35774816)

Just when I'm watching DS9 this comes up. AWESOME! This doesn't actually prove that there WERE actual aliens, only confirms of the original report which could just as well be bogus.

I HOPE IT IS NOT. I want me an Asgard friend* and one of those computers that lets me build what I want!

* Everyone knows that Slashdotters have no friends.

Ferengi == DS9
Asgard == SG1

finally, some friendly honest folks offer help (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774490)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDVt_hSo_EU&NR=1

so spys really do like us?

queer cave people falling out of ufos over utah (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774766)

more mormons? not another missing hymen joke? jesus & the easter bunny are still tossing the coin (best out of infinity, or the bunny gets all the lettuce), over whois doing the big parade/pageant/sports events gigs next week...

all mommys.... they're aiming the biblical holyographic laser canons at us now.

April Fools! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774500)

I didn't realize it was still April Fools day...maybe someone forgot to notice the 0 after the 1 in 10.

Secret FBI memo (1)

seepho (1959226) | about 3 years ago | (#35774514)

Is it really a "Secret FBI memo" if I can get it on the FBI's website?

Re:Secret FBI memo (1)

webmistressrachel (903577) | about 3 years ago | (#35774538)

No, but it used to be a "Secret FBI Memo" until someone got hold of details of the names and dates, and requested it under Freedom of Info laws.

It was then published under the FOIA, rendering it an "Ex-Secret FBI Memo". Thanks for playing.

Radar interference (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774518)

So they believe the powerfull radar in the area messed up the saucer's equipment.

Re:Radar interference (2)

zill (1690130) | about 3 years ago | (#35774558)

Just like how in most movies a 5.56x45mm round drops the alien invaders dead despite the fact they managed to survive a crash landing to Earth.

Read the article carefully (5, Informative)

lscotte (450259) | about 3 years ago | (#35774526)

Read the article carefully - it neither denies nor confirms anything. This is a report documenting what an informant said, and does not suggest any first hand knowledge about anything...

Al lwe need to know (5, Funny)

BlindRobin (768267) | about 3 years ago | (#35774528)

Is just how did Obama manage this from Kenya BEFORE hes was born, I bet Glen knows...

Re:Al lwe need to know (1)

Dr. Spork (142693) | about 3 years ago | (#35774584)

Duh, Obama is an alien who came to Earth to get revenge for his fallen Muslim space-communist comrades, so cruelly attacked by that American radar installation. Why do you think he is hiding his birth certificate? It's because he was born in space! Isn't it clear that he's here to destroy our planet, or at least prepare it for alien colonization?

Horrible (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774546)

Worst slashdot article title ever

Re:Horrible (1)

Dexter Herbivore (1322345) | about 3 years ago | (#35774576)

FBI Releases Document Confirming *A REPORT OF A* Roswell UFO

FTFY

Re:Horrible (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774658)

FTFY

Twitter twaddle.

Re:Horrible (1)

Dexter Herbivore (1322345) | about 3 years ago | (#35774810)

Oh, I'm so sorry for using an abbreviation that's been in common use on /. for years. Maybe you could post on your account instead of AC next time you want to crtiticise someone.

Deception against soviets (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774556)

Just proves that one arm of government was good at deceiving\misinforming another arm while trying to deceive a different government.

Reverse cover up (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774560)

Funny how they chose to cover up a military experiment with a UFO story. They thought UFO crashes were so common no one would bother asking questions.

brought down by RADAR? (1)

Zecheus (1072058) | about 3 years ago | (#35774566)

Really. We are to believe these have some level of technology that is vulnerable to RADAR?

Re:brought down by RADAR? (2)

RockoTDF (1042780) | about 3 years ago | (#35774618)

(speaking purely hypothetically) If radar is dead technology to them, they could have. I'm pretty sure catapulting a boulder into the shuttle or setting an F-16 on fire would do some damage. I would imagine that any sort of miraculous hover technology is dependent on manipulating magnetic fields. So I'd imagine that it caused some kind of interference that made the craft difficult to fly and eventually brought it down (as opposed to just dropping out of the sky). (I am not a physicist or engineer)

Re:brought down by RADAR? (1, Insightful)

tgd (2822) | about 3 years ago | (#35774684)

(I am not a physicist or engineer)

Yes, we can tell.

Re:brought down by RADAR? (3, Funny)

eljasbo (671696) | about 3 years ago | (#35774740)

As an avid follower of the x-files (at least until that awful final movie), i believe i have some expertise that can clarify this further. The alien craft do indeed manipulate the magnetic fields. However naturally magnetic materials can make this technology malfunction. The reason they crashed into the roswell desert is due to the high concentration of magnetite in the area that caused their guidance systems to go haywire. This magnetite concentration is also the reason ancient civilizations such as the Anasazi built villages among the hills in these parts, and why the illuminati have started creating modern villages in these parts to live when the new world order arrives. This magnetite rich environment protects any inhabitants from the powers an alien civilization uses to control humans, and is the only hope for human civilization to survive. The hybrid alien/human species will take over every other area of the planet, but those who live in the desert with the magnetite will survive and be able to repopulate the planet.

Re:brought down by RADAR? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774758)

Imagine a small shuttlecraft like saucer with not much shielding getting struck by a high powered radar beam and
losing navigational control during high G maneveurs.Is it any stupider than early cell phones interfering with communications equipment?
Aliens wouldnt have tech screw ups???

Re:brought down by RADAR? (1)

Entropius (188861) | about 3 years ago | (#35774764)

The issue here is energy density. A very strong radar set might put out 1 megawatt of power; the intensity of that forty miles away is about a milliwatt per meter squared.

It takes *vastly* less energy to communicate (with radar or radio) than to actually do anything, like heat your food or make a magic hoohah floaty-drive work.

Dwarf test pilots (4, Informative)

mkraft (200694) | about 3 years ago | (#35774586)

The document says "so-called flying saucers" with 3 foot tall human shaped bodies wearing test pilot guard, No where does it say "aliens" in the document. They were obviously dwarf test pilots.

conspiracy in these comments (1)

Titan1080 (1328519) | about 3 years ago | (#35774596)

too many AC naysayers here. clearly the govt. is still trying to cover it up.

Re:conspiracy in these comments (1)

Beelzebud (1361137) | about 3 years ago | (#35774646)

Obviously you are a CIA plant here to do psy-ops on the board by instilling doubt in the ACs!

Re:conspiracy in these comments (1)

ConceptJunkie (24823) | about 3 years ago | (#35774772)

Oh, that kind of stufff only exists in spy movies. Those CIA types are really cool: They eVen sent me a fre3 videp gaeme calllled "Polybius"! i;ts reallty COool.

Releasing it now... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774616)

... so the human race is prepared for the incoming attack fleet of aliens that are on the edge of the solar system as we speak.

That is all.

Suspicious timing (4, Interesting)

Livius (318358) | about 3 years ago | (#35774630)

The problem with the Roswell folklore has always been that the story completely went away until the point in time when, coincidentally, the actual witnesses had died of old age.

1950? (1)

recoisiche (1864820) | about 3 years ago | (#35774644)

Now, I'm no expert on this incident, but Wikipedia says that the first report of a flying disk came in 1947. This memo was dated March 22, 1950. It doesn't say when the statement was issued (or that part has been redacted), but if people had already been speculating about flying saucers, then that eyewitness account proves nothing.

Also, that is a major MAJOR headline fail.

Nothing new here (1)

ALeader71 (687693) | about 3 years ago | (#35774678)

We've had confirmations for years. I still say this is the cheapest way to keep our true tech level a secret from the rest of the world. This is a self-feeding conspiracy theory.

Who cares? (1)

no-body (127863) | about 3 years ago | (#35774692)

1 - If any government comes into possession of unknown advanced technology gaining a (military/economic) advantage over other's, they will hide it, make it top secret, obscure it and take any measures to keep it that way.

2 - Considering the number of existing suns and planets of known galaxies, one can be 100 % sure that there are other advanced civilizations far older than the 0.4 - 1.5 M years since human-like species on this planet have used fire.

3 - Would a more advanced species even bother to deal with humans on this planet given the idiocy going on - hardly.

So, get a beer!

bla bla bla (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774694)

Ho hum. If the aliens thought we were worth rescuing, they would have come back already.

my personal theory (3, Insightful)

jollyreaper (513215) | about 3 years ago | (#35774696)

Area 51 is chock full of advanced but terrestrial technology. The government leaks this stuff seemingly confirming UFO's or half-assed and inadequate cover stories just to stir up conspiracy nuts. You tell someone you saw strange things in the sky over Groom Lake, people will smile and twirl their fingers in circles beside their heads.

I think the odds of alien life in this universe are very good; I think the odds for intelligent life are also good. But unless there's some lovely scifi physics waiting out there for us, space travel seems like it'll be awfully damned expensive and complicated. And little green men in flying saucers seems a little too -- how should I put it --- mundane? Too mundane for an interstellar alien intelligence.

When you consider that in light of the cheesy denials, it seems like it's not just paranoids getting worked up over nothing, it looks like the government is egging them on. Therefore my theory of using aliens to cover for the real secrets.

the goverment worldwide toyed with us (1)

Mr_Nitro (1174707) | about 3 years ago | (#35774698)

to the point that they can even disclose real material without any fear for any reaction anymore, mission ******* accomplished. so sad. mrn

ufo Disclosure Project. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774702)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

Last Modified Date (1)

nettdata (88196) | about 3 years ago | (#35774728)

Is it a coincidence that the last modified date on the PDF is March 31?

You know... as in the day before April Fools?

If that were the case, I'd be even more scared... who would have thought the FBI had a sense of humour?

most misleading slashdot headline ever (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774776)

The FBI records testimony for all sorts of incidents. They sometimes release those testimonials. The testimonials are worthless except if backed by evidence. I'm pretty sure they have testimony from random people for all sorts of things.

The release of sealed testimony hardly confirms anything. The release of this document means that at some point someone said these things to a FBI investigator and he wrote them down. Saying that this "confirms UFOs" is ridiculous. What it really means is that someone told investigators this information, they wrote it down because writing testimony down is part of their jobs, then the document that they wrote it down was eventually released.

Sammy Hagar (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 years ago | (#35774840)

Maybe Sammy Hagar was telling the truth when he said he was visited by aliens......
http://www.bernertechreport.com

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