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Students Build Life-Sized Trojan Horse For Class Project

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the if-we-built-a-wooden-badger dept.

Education 72

A good old-fashioned Iliad diorama just wasn't big enough for a group of Chicago area students. They decided to build a life-sized Trojan Horse for their class project instead. From the article: "As Newsradio 780s Mike Krauser reports, their teacher couldn’t believe it. 'It was a surprise and it was a big surprise,' said teacher Bob Pomykala. The students wouldn’t tell Pomykala what they were up to. 'They said they had a great idea, but they wouldn’t tell me what it was,' he said. What they did was build a giant Trojan Horse, which, according to Greek mythology was used to sneak soldiers into the city of Troy for a triumphant battle. They built it in senior Sergio Aguilar’s yard, and then moved it right in front of Marengo Community High School.

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edit (4, Funny)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832206)

They used it to sneak drugs into the school...

Re:edit (1)

Kamiza Ikioi (893310) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833040)

Sex and drugs... a student was caught swinging their legs from between the hind quarters as the cheerleading squad walked by.

Re:edit (2)

rainmouse (1784278) | more than 3 years ago | (#35838556)

Sex and drugs... a student was caught swinging their legs from between the hind quarters as the cheerleading squad walked by.

Speaking about Sex. I always thought Trojan was a terrible name for a brand of condoms.
Considering the Trojan horse was pushed through the city gates whereupon it broke open and these little guys came pouring out of it and caused all kinds of trouble.

Re:edit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833058)

They used it to sneak drugs into the school...

Ahem... then that would be a mule, not a horse.

I think this is a wonderful thing (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834102)

They used the same plywood that was available to Odysseus and the Achaeans!

Re:edit (1)

uvajed_ekil (914487) | more than 3 years ago | (#35836620)

Dude, nobody needs that to sneak drugs into high schools. That's what pockets, backpacks, and art teachers are for.

Ooooh is that a gift? (1)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832230)

It's a trap!!!

Trojan Horse? (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832236)

This is /. so I would expect a story about a trojan unicorn (preferably one without a goatse link).

Re:Trojan Horse? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832482)

Perhaps a large wooden badger.....

Re:Trojan Horse? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832802)

I would expect jokes about how $UNIX_LIKE_OS is invulnerable to trojans

Re:Trojan Horse? (1)

mangu (126918) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832832)

This is /. so I would expect a story about a trojan unicorn (preferably one without a goatse link).

Are you proposing they feed stardust to the unicorn to see if it farts rainbows?

Re:Trojan Horse? (1)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833356)

Are you proposing they feed stardust to the unicorn to see if it farts rainbows?

Yes, yes I am.

Disappointing. Looks nothing like Stephen Elop (1)

jmcbain (1233044) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833596)

Very bad rendering of Stephen Elop.

huh? (4, Funny)

i kan reed (749298) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832238)

Who ever heard of students sneaking into school?

Re:huh? (5, Funny)

Lectoid (891115) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832602)

Nobody would expect it, much like the Spanish Inquisition.

Re:huh? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833018)

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Life-sized? (2)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832244)

This horse only holds 12 people. The original Trojan horse held 30 people, according to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] .

So it doesn't exactly sound "life-sized" to me.

Re:Life-sized? (5, Funny)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832268)

This horse only holds 12 people. The original Trojan horse held 30 people, according to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] .

So it doesn't exactly sound "life-sized" to me.

People where smaller back then and folded up easier...

Re:Life-sized? (4, Funny)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832586)

But they clearly had enormous balls.

Re:Life-sized? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833216)

Mod parent insightful.

Re:Life-sized? (1)

Ecuador (740021) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832398)

According to some accounts they were more, and they were probably carrying some armor (and lets not mention two spies fitting on the mouth alone), so it is definitely not "life sized".
But the biggest disappointment for me is that it doesn't look like a horse. I am sure the Trojans would not bother to roll it in their city looking like that. Ok, it was just a school project, but still...

Re:Life-sized? (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833224)

it doesn't look like a horse. I am sure the Trojans would not bother to roll it in their city looking like that. Ok, it was just a school project, but still...

It doesn't run Linux either.

Re:Life-sized? (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833380)

it doesn't look like a horse

"Mikey, find a use for your wooden AT-AT or I'll burn it!"

"Yes, Father."

Re:Life-sized? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832552)

People were smaller back then.

Re:Life-sized? (1, Flamebait)

pisces22 (819606) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832734)

It only holds 12 Americans. Duh!

Re:Life-sized? (1)

Nyder (754090) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832788)

This horse only holds 12 people. The original Trojan horse held 30 people, according to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] .

So it doesn't exactly sound "life-sized" to me.

Um, apparently you don't realize that stories have a way of exaggerating what really happen. Sure, it sound great to say it was 30 peeps in the book, but really? It was probably like 2 dudes, enough to lift the gates open.

Let's be real. Some force has been camped outside your gates, trying to break in and kill you. They aren't able to, so over night, they dissappear and put a "horse" that can hold 30 peeps outside the gate? How fucking stupid would you have to be, to roll that bad boy in your fucking city and think that you won? Now something that might only be able to hold 2 men, you'd be more trusting of it, because it's smaller and obviously couldn't hold a big trap.

And anyways, isn't this story fiction? Do we have other accounts that back this story, and the 30 man horse?

While you might think the students suck because they didn't follow make believe land close enough, I give them props for making something unusual and keeping it a secret from their teacher.

Re:Life-sized? (1)

Nyder (754090) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832816)

And actually, if you bothered to read the wiki article you used as proof, you'd see the number was challenged by different sources.

you sir, failed.

Re:Life-sized? (2)

Shin-LaC (1333529) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833002)

They're way off. A life-sized horse would hold only one person, two at most.

Re:Life-sized? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833170)

People were smaller back then

Re:Life-sized? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833278)

The Chaser Boys did this too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3SfNANtig

Re:Life-sized? (1)

steveha (103154) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833802)

This horse only holds 12 people.

And they cheated and used pre-made 2x4s, pre-made plywood sheets, and I'll bet those lazy jerks used power tools instead of hand-made brass tools. Why did those kids even bother! It's not authentic.

Or, perhaps you didn't mean to criticize the school kids; maybe you meant to criticize Slashdot for using the term "life-sized". Well, here's a pro tip for you: people will often use inexact language. I'm pretty sure that in this context, "life-sized" means "much bigger than a little model, so big that actual people can fit inside it" rather than "a 1:1 scale model based on the most meticulous research available". If you think this is bad, try reading a news story discussing radiation levels at the Fukushima reactors.

P.S. To the high school students who worked on this project: my hat is off to you. That is seriously cool, and it is real. It's easy for people to talk about things, but it's much more impressive to actually make things.

steveha

Gift (1)

zanian (1621285) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832258)

I want to know who they're giving it to.

In Soviet Greece ... (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832290)

... the Trojan wears you.

Re:In Soviet Greece ... (1)

laejoh (648921) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832346)

Shouldn't that be 'taunt' you, perhaps a second time?

Re:In Soviet Greece ... (1)

HelioWalton (1821492) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832360)

whoosh!

A new example ... (1)

Kalidor (94097) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832340)

....of being wary of geeks bearing gifts?

Re:A new example ... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833438)

....of being wary of geeks bearing gifts?

Be wary of rifts among geeks.

Alors! There ees a wooden rabbit outside le gate?!?

Re:A new example ... (1)

Archwyrm (670653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35835316)

No, no, be wary of geeks bearing gifs. Sage advice, I think.

Re:A new example ... (1)

Daimanta (1140543) | more than 3 years ago | (#35839000)

You are so wrong. The real danger is geeks bare in gifs

Not quite... (1)

Radical Moderate (563286) | more than 3 years ago | (#35835428)

it's a gift bearing geeks.

They should have built a giant wooden badger (1)

MooseDontBounce (989375) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832408)

Especially after the rabbit failed.

Won't These Students be Disappointed (1)

avgjoe62 (558860) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832422)

Imagine how bad they'll feel when they learn that the entire Greek Civilization never existed [theonion.com] and they did all that hard work for nothing...

Hey, just what are kids today up to? (1)

e9th (652576) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832428)

Yesterday it's near-space photography. [slashdot.org] Today it's Trojan Horses. They're up to something, I tell you.

Re:Hey, just what are kids today up to? (2)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832612)

Yes.

Instead of just shouting "You're stupid! You suck! I hate you!" and running away, they're proving it and watching you blog about it.

Re:Hey, just what are kids today up to? (1)

Crypto Gnome (651401) | more than 3 years ago | (#35838222)

What is up with The World Today?
  • Trojan Horse made out of plywood, NOT Trojans [wikipedia.org]
  • Sheperds Pie NOT made of sheperds

Re:Hey, just what are kids today up to? (1)

e9th (652576) | more than 3 years ago | (#35839988)

And Girl Scout Cookies.

Sounds like a Bueller question. (1)

snspdaarf (1314399) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832530)

"Will someone please tell me why there is a giant steaming pile of sawdust in the middle of the football field?"

Did they make it with real Trojan horses? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832540)

Or did they settle for Girl Scouts?

I did this in 2005 with friends (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832648)

http://tinypic.com/r/9gzo5s/7

But we cut chains and snuck ours in like real Trojans. Kids these days got no guts.

Mythbusters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832704)

Now the question is, will Mythbusters show up with 500 polished shields to try and set fire to it!

Burn Baby Burn (1)

DarthVain (724186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832766)

10$ says this thing gets torched in effigy at the end of the school year at the big schools out for summer bender.

Naysayers (5, Insightful)

YackoYak (153131) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833000)

Man, what's with Slashdot, the comments are full of so much negativity this past year.

These kids are in high school. That's pretty amazing that they were able to build that on their own, without it being assigned, including forming a team, agreeing on the project and following it through on their time and expense. I'm sure some of you were splitting atoms after school but my high school was certainly not like that. It may not be sized/shaped to historically accurate accounts (whatever that means) but they are making something by hand, and staying off the PC/Gaming Console/TV long enough to finish it.

I'm an amateur woodworker and can point out all sorts of flaws but that's really not the point here. It's easier to tear something down than build it up.

Re:Naysayers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35834444)

You are correct. It's so much easier to tear something down. I do hope they had adult supervision in this. I don't really like the amount of surprise their teacher seems to show... It's a great news story that could have easily turned into tragedy. Building is fun, but experience exists to teach you what could kill you (not that the teacher necessarily would have been able to help, but he might have insisted that someone knowledgeable oversees the construction). Somebody could easily have been crushed.

Re:Naysayers (1)

BaronHethorSamedi (970820) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834914)

Agree wholeheartedly! I'm not sure why this was tagged "idle." This is categorically the coolest humanities project in recent memory, and it shows an amazing amount of creativity, teamwork and initiative.

I'm sure it's also completely unrelated to distressing reports of Marengo High School being razed and pillaged, and its cheerleading squad being carried off into captivity.

Re:Naysayers (2)

uvajed_ekil (914487) | more than 3 years ago | (#35836704)

They built a clandestine paramilitary operation device. which has no purpose other than to smuggle insurgens into an American school in America, where our children are, and you support them? When you hear the knock, it won't be the Spanish Inquisition, it will be Homeland Scurity coming to shut down your sleeper cell!

Re:Naysayers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35837390)

I blame the google adds at the top of the page for the voices in my head

Re:Naysayers (1)

Crypto Gnome (651401) | more than 3 years ago | (#35838198)

I'm sure some of you were splitting atoms after school

Nah, at my school we were violating security on the local University Mainframe.

And all was fine until (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833196)

...the safety inspectors arrived.

Re:And all was fine until (1)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833260)

...the safety inspectors arrived.

Yes, I hear he was a Trojan and had seen this sort of thing before....

A trojan what? (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833284)

We made a life-sized trojan also [trojancondoms.com] , but it got us kicked out of school.

Re:A trojan what? (1)

Archwyrm (670653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35835404)

A real challenge would be one that you could fit 30 to 40 men at once in.

No wheels? (1)

Rizimar (1986164) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833422)

I was expecting there to be wheels. Either way, still cool, and better than a tree fort.

NOT Trojan Horse, but hollow wooden horse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833514)

Really, there was one Trojan Horse, thousands of years ago
There is no more Troy or Trojans, and these school kids aren't engaged in war

Re:NOT Trojan Horse, but hollow wooden horse (1)

MLease (652529) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833566)

Okay, Mr. Picky, they built a replica of the Trojan Horse. Happy now?

-Mike

Explain again... (1)

SgtXaos (157101) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833542)

...Who gets out of the rabbit?

Obligatory (1)

TheHornedOne (50252) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834230)

Perhaps if they built a large wooden badger...

Oh no, I fear for my system (1)

Pippilotta (2042576) | more than 3 years ago | (#35835982)

If they built a life-sized Trojan Horse I am expecting sooner or later someone will eventually build a life-sized Worm, Dancing Pigs, Lion Worm and maybe even ANNA KOURNIKOVAs [wikipedia.org]

Doesn't look authentic (1)

ChrisMaple (607946) | more than 3 years ago | (#35836006)

Even ignoring the use of plywood and (I think) metal strapping, there are huge holes in it! You may get people into it, but they sure aren't hidden.

Info on the Trojan Horse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35836176)

What the horse had to do?
Carry enough men inside to take out the local night watch and open the gate. Men back then were smaller then we were, by about 2 feet or more, hence they could probably fit more people in it. The men inside probably had nothing more then their tunics, sandals, and a single short-sword, and some bread and water. The Heavily armed men were outside.

Why did the Trojans accept it?
1) The horse was the symbol of Troy.
2) It wasn't just a horse, the entire Achaean, (Greek), army struck camp and sent their ships off. The Trojans could clearly see both the camps gone and the ships sailing off over the horizon. Logistics being what they are, the Achaeans couldn't last more then a few days without the support the camps and ships provided. It's also worth mentioning that the Trojan war had lasted for 10 years, and then all of a sudden the enemy army leaves, and drops a tribute to your city on your doorsteps.

Beware... (1)

meglon (1001833) | more than 3 years ago | (#35836706)

... of gifts bearing Greeks.

Serenity (1)

Tekoneiric (590239) | more than 3 years ago | (#35838184)

Looks a little like the Serenity/Firefly ship up on stilts.

They Clearly need more education (1)

Crypto Gnome (651401) | more than 3 years ago | (#35838190)

Having seen the photo, they clearly need further education if they think:
  • That's what a horse looks like
  • That is life-sized for a horse
  • That is life-sized for "the trojan horse" which should be able to hold 30 heavily armed men
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