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Portal 2 Bringing Steam To the PS3, Possible Early Release

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the i'm-making-a-note-here dept.

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itwbennett writes "Portal 2 is breaking some new ground – at least the PlayStation 3 version is. 'Portal 2 marks the first time that Valve's social gaming network (and digital distribution system), Steam, will appear on consoles,' writes blogger Peter Smith. What this means is that once you link your Playstation Network [PSN] and Steam accounts 'you'll be able to keep tabs on what your Steam friends are up to from within a game of Portal 2 on the PS3,' says Smith. And, you'll be able to play Portal 2 with friends playing on PC or Mac. 'I can think of at least one other example of cross-platform gaming (Shadowrun supported both PC and Xbox players in the same game servers),' says Smith, 'but it's still very rare.'" This afternoon Valve launched a countdown to Portal 2 which can be accelerated by playing any of a group of indie games.

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But that doesn't worth much (-1, Troll)

slashdome (2042388) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832520)

You can't download/buy anything [tinyurl.com] via that steam client..

GOATSE (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832528)

GOATSE

Re:But that doesn't worth much (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832558)

Again? Really?

Re:But that doesn't worth much (1, Informative)

MozeeToby (1163751) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832574)

Why do I have a sinking feeling, without even clicking the link, that this points to one of the classic gross out pictures, probably goatse.

A) First post within seconds of the article going live.
B) Link obfuscated using a URL shortener
C) User has a history of one comment, including this one
D) Username is of the theme Slash'X' which has been posting a goatse link in every article lately

I await other people clicking the link to see if I'm right, I don't have tinyurl set to preview pages and I'm at work, so I won't be taking the risk.

Re:But that doesn't worth much (0)

madowcopyrightowner (1991028) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832790)

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April 14, 2011, 7:56 AM — Valve's Portal 2 comes out next week,

Straw man. [wikipedia.org]

, and a lot of gamers are pretty excited about it. I don't usually talk about specific game releases in this blog, but I'm going to make an exception because Portal 2 is breaking some new ground – at least the Sony Playstation 3 version is.

Port

Begging the question. [wikipedia.org]

tal 2 marks the first time that Valve's social gaming network (and digital distribution system), Steam, will appear on consoles. So what does this mean? It means (once you

Appeal to popularity. [wikipedia.org]

link your Playstation Network [PSN] and Steam accounts) you'll be able to keep tabs on what your Steam friends are up to from within a game of Portal 2 on the PS3. Just hit the Select button on your controller to bring up the Ste

False dilemma. [wikipedia.org]

eam Overlay.

Even better, you'll be able to play Portal 2 with friends playing on PC or Mac. I can think of at least one other example of cross-platform gaming (Shadowrun supported both PC and

Appeal to law. [wikipedia.org]

Xbox players in the same game servers) but it's still very rare. Perhaps if more console games start using Steam it'll be less so. In this case Xbox 360 gamers are still left out in the cold so we're still waiting for a truly platf

Appeal to hypocrisy. [wikipedia.org]

form-agnostic online game.

Steam has an achievement system and the PSN has Trophies. These are synced up in Portal 2, so when you do something that earn

Begging the question. [wikipedia.org]

ns you a PSN Trophy it'll also award you the corresponding Steam Achievement.

Portal 2 will be "Steam Cloud" enabled, which means you can store your save games in the

Red herring. [wikipedia.org]

cloud. The PSN already supports this (at least for Playstation Plus members) and save games aren't interchangeable between PS3 and PC/Mac versions of the game, so I'm not sure how much this feature will get used. I

Appeal to emotion. [wikipedia.org]

If you happen to bounce around between several PS3 systems and aren't a Plus member, then I'm sure it'll be a welcome feature.

As a bonus, purchasers of the Playstation 3 ve

Appeal to law. [wikipedia.org]

ersion of Portal 2 will get a code to unlock the PC and Mac version, too.

When Valve's Gabe Newell talked about Portal 2 at Sony's E3 2010 press conference he said the

Red herring. [wikipedia.org]

e PS3 version of the game would be the ultimate console version. Seems like Valve is putting its money where Newell's mouth was. For more details on Portal 2 and Steam on the PS3, check ou

Appeal to popularity. [wikipedia.org]

ut Valve's FAQ.

Begging the question. [wikipedia.org]

Portal 2 (3, Funny)

arun84h (1454607) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832592)

Now you're thinking with cross-platform gaming portals!

Will it run.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35834004)

..on my Linux-ready PS3? If not, then I'm not interested.

But that doesn't worth much.... (-1, Redundant)

slashbag (2042394) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832598)

You can't download/buy [tinyurl.com] anything via that steam client..

Goatse yet again (0)

MozeeToby (1163751) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832618)

And again, SlashX troll attemts the Goatse link. You really are the worst troll ever.

Re:Goatse yet again (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832764)

Yea, it's really just pathetic. I mean, if you're going to troll, be original. And if you're trying to shock, then maybe you should link to a picture that the entire world hasn't already seen 50 times. It feels a lot like some 13 year kid trying to learn how to be troll by halfassedly emulating the trolls of yesteryear who have long since moved on to new ideas.

Re:Goatse yet again (-1, Troll)

slashbag (2042394) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832820)

See, U mad? trolling works...

Re:Goatse yet again (1)

Tolkien (664315) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833298)

Uh no, he's basically laughing at how bad you are at trolling. He's calling you pathetic at being a troll. In other words, you suck at trolling. Shall I paint you a more accurate picture? [youtube.com]

Re:Goatse yet again (1)

HaZardman27 (1521119) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833594)

And you are effectively feeding the troll.

Re:Goatse yet again (1)

Tolkien (664315) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833834)

*shrug* As if it would make a difference. He's already demonstrated that he has no life or intelligence.

Crafty, I guess (5, Insightful)

RogueyWon (735973) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832654)

I think this is actually a pretty crafty (and aggressive) move by Valve. One of the frustrations of gaming on the PC is seeing consoles get exclusive content in many games, paid for by the console manufacturer. Usually, the PC is left to languish and pick up the scraps - and sometimes doesn't get the extra content at all (for example, Dead Space 2). Now, an early release (and likely only a very slightly early one) isn't exactly the same as extra content, but it's still a perk for PC players - and various forums today illustrate that this has upset a lot of console gamers.

Why should Valve do this? Because they now have a huge vested interest in the PC as a gaming platform. They're taking a cut on every PC game sold via Steam - which is a large proportion of PC games these days. So for the first time in many years, the PC actually has somebody fighting its corner as a platform in a vaguely effective way. And by dangling a (largely neutered) version of Steam in front of PS3 gamers, they're getting free advertising for their own service and platform.

And if anybody wants to call them evil and scheming, then they have the counter-argument that they're doing all this by getting people to play indie games.

Me? I like gaming on the PC... and on the 360 and PS3. But the PC does have unique features as a platform and I'm glad that there are people out there with actual industry clout who are promoting it.

Re:Crafty, I guess (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832970)

Well, it's probably more like "we can flip the download switch early even if we can't magic the disks into the stores before we'd planned".

The rest of it too, I suppose... but Steam gives them the logistical flexibility to do this kind of thing. They can't just say "oh it's out now, go to Gamestop!" when they feel like it for a PS3 disk.

Re:Crafty, I guess (1)

dstyle5 (702493) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833290)

IWhy should Valve do this?

Probably the main reason they are doing it is because they can now update games at their desired frequency. Currently on consoles game updates have to be tested/vetted by the console companies, which takes a long time and costs developers/publishers money and time. With Steam on PS3 they can quickly and cheaply fix bugs, security issues, etc. The 360 version of L4D2 is always far behind the PC version in updates and by time they actually get released as a bundle of updates on the 360 the PC version has already far ahead again.

Re:Crafty, I guess (1)

RogueyWon (735973) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833372)

That's true in as far as it goes, but I think there's more to it than that.

The money Valve will be raking in from Steam must surely dwarf the money they get from the sales of one of their in-house games. So even if it's not the ideal way to manage one of their game properties in its own right, the incentive for them is to do whatever they can to get people onto the PC and using Steam. And if that means screwing over the console versions a bit, then so be it.

As I said in the original post, I like my 360 and PS3 and use them lots. But my word it is nice to see the boot on the other foot from the PC perspective for once.

The 360 and PS3 are aging and have no successors on the horizon. If I were a betting man, I would put money on the Wii2 being the next Dreamcast. If Valve really want to make a big PC gaming push, then now is the time.

Re:Crafty, I guess (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833544)

I would put money on the Wii2 being the next Dreamcast

An awesome console killed by stupid management decisions?

Re:Crafty, I guess (0)

RogueyWon (735973) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834368)

Yes, quite possibly. The stupid management decision in this case being to put out a Wii1 that was utterly obsolete even at the point of release - which allowed for loads of cheap sales in the first few years, followed by utter paralysis and the need to release a successor before the developer market was ready for one.

Re:Crafty, I guess (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834752)

They are still so far the number one console and unlike Xbox have actually made money year over year.

I do not own a wii, but might get one soon for the mario games.

I think nintendo is here to stay. MS will continue to make consoles and never really make any money on it, Sony will also stay pretty much where they are.

Re:Crafty, I guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35834826)

Pretty damned obvious that the 'next big console' is the iPad, for better or worse.

Re:Crafty, I guess (2)

dave562 (969951) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833638)

But the PC does have unique features as a platform

Like aimbots, and wall hacks. I like the idea of cross platform gaming, but I hope they resist the urge to merge the two platforms (consoles and PCs) on FPS titles. I can deal with people who think their mouse / keyboard are a superior interface (and in most instances I'd agree). I can't deal with cheaters. They ruin the games for everyone.

Re:Crafty, I guess (1)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833972)

Console games have cheaters, too.

Re:Crafty, I guess (0)

dave562 (969951) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833986)

[Citation needed]

Re:Crafty, I guess (3, Informative)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834080)

Are you serious?

MW2 [joystiq.com] and the Halo games [wikia.com] are two good examples off the top of my head. Lots of asshats cheat at console games, just like lots of asshats cheat at PC games.

Re:Crafty, I guess (1)

RogueyWon (735973) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834418)

The PS3 has had cheaters galore ever since Geohot did his thing with it. I'd just been starting to dip my toe into online multiplayer on the platform, since PS Move support actually made Killzone 3 feel... almost PC once you got used to it. Unfortunately, the wave of cheating that followed the system's protection being broken pretty much killed my interest dead.

Which is yet another reason why I can't blame Sony for trying to flay the little fucker alive...

Re:Crafty, I guess (1)

Tolkien (664315) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834032)

Yeah. I really wish Heavy Rain [wikipedia.org] had been released for PC as it was originally going to be. I definitely would have bought that game. I find it rather stupid how people sign these exclusivity deals thinking they'll make more money when in reality they miss out on tonnes of sales from those who don't want to fork over hundreds of dollars just to buy the console required to play their game.

This is the way cross platform should be... (4, Interesting)

rbollinger (1922546) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832656)

As a bonus, purchasers of the Playstation 3 version of Portal 2 will get a code to unlock the PC and Mac version, too.

Most important thing I found in the article. I'm wondering if it will work the other way around too. I would love if I could eventually play all my steam games on both the PS3 and PC if they are available for both!

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832712)

As of right now it doesn't go the other way around. I think it's part of the way they're trying to justify the higher price for the console version of the game

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833022)

I doubt it. The beauty of Steam/Steam Play is that there's nothing more than a flag in the account. Type in the key, or get a Mac (or PC), and just download the files you're authorized to. For PS3 they'd have to send out a disk (unless the PSN does 10GB+ downloadable games?), and BDs are still expensive to make, and they'd be shipped, so they wouldn't just eat the cost. I could see them doing some nominal fee ($10), but I don't really think there's the demand.

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833090)

There are 10+GB downloadable games on PSN. The full version of the Dragon Age: Origins expansion is the first one that comes to mind, but I believe there are probably some others.

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833220)

Thanks, I didn't know that. I don't think it changes the circumstances, though. A big part of this is that Portal 2 is preloaded on thousands of computers already, just waiting for the switch, and that switch is directly under Valve's control. I doubt the PSN allows them the same flexibility.

In any case, I don't think it's going to be sold on the PSN. Not sure how much that matters, or how fast they could change that.

Yes PSN allows that (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833360)

A big part of this is that Portal 2 is preloaded on thousands of computers already, just waiting for the switch, and that switch is directly under Valve's control. I doubt the PSN allows them the same flexibility.

There's nothing about PSN that would disallow this. Some game demos work this way already (you flip a switch when you purchase).

How did Steam with Portal2 already get pre-loaded onto anything though? It had to be downloaded sometime. There's no difference I can see between downloading it to a PC vs. a PS3.

Re:Yes PSN allows that (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833760)

Preload, in Steam land, means just that you download the game but can't play it yet. The idea is so that you don't need to wait for hours after release for the download.

Thanks, I don't keep up on consoles. I was entirely mistaken, it seems. But Portal 2 for PS3 is still shipping on disk, and I don't think they can change that in the next few days.

Re:Yes PSN allows that (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833934)

Preload, in Steam land, means just that you download the game but can't play it yet.

Yes, I know, I use Steam.

But Portal 2 for PS3 is still shipping on disk

Sure, but there's no technical reason the PS3 can't do the same kind of pre-download deal as Steam does (as I said, game demos where you unlock the full version are the same thing).

Interestingly if you buy Portal2 on a PS3 you can also play it on the other platforms, which means if you have a PS3 you are better off ordering the physical disc than pre-ordering on Steam.

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833606)

Whats funny is that it is an actual physical switch. They set up a podium with a big button or something to release games onto Steam.

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35834490)

PSN distributes (or at the very least *can* distribute) 10GB+ downloadable games. Then again, it can just allow a Steam app for the PS3 and have that app connect to Steam for the download instead of having it need to go through PSN.

Sony are surprisingly far less protective of content being passed through PSN when it means they can save bandwidth and/or can charge for bandwidth use.

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (1)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833352)

Well if you are wanting to do that go through Amazon, it is $5 cheaper to buy and comes with a $20 gift card. If I hadn't already preordered it on Steam, I would have picked that up and I don't even own a PS3 because who knows maybe one day I will own one.

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833430)

Valve seems to be the only Game producer that "gets it" and treats their customers as something other than livestock to be harvested in the most efficient way possible. Do you think other developers wonder why 80% of all PC Game sales go through Steam now despite Valve being so un-hostile to their customers?

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (1)

Fallingcow (213461) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833556)

Buy the PS3 version.

Put in Steam code.

Sell PS3 version at Vintage Stock (regional Gamestop-like shop) for store credit.

Buy a $20 PS3 game with store credit.

Any reason I can't do this? Is the PC version going to be $20 cheaper so it's not really worth it?

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834798)

Nope, but your PS3 used game will not be worth that much since you used the code which is surely once per disk.

Re:This is the way cross platform should be... (1)

ShakaUVM (157947) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833768)

>>Most important thing I found in the article. I'm wondering if it will work the other way around too. I would love if I could eventually play all my steam games on both the PS3 and PC if they are available for both!

The question I have is: if I buy the PS3 version and I already have the PC version, do I get a gift copy of the PC version?

My wife is only a console gamer, whereas I'd go crazy trying to play Portal (which requires precision aiming) on a controller. But it would be pretty darn cool to be able to play co-op with her cross platform.

awesome plan (2, Interesting)

demonbug (309515) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832658)

Buy more stuff from us, and we'll sell other things to you faster.

I can't help thinking that Portal 2 must be a dud, with all the advertising and marketing gimmicks surrounding it.

Still hoping, though.

Re:awesome plan (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832744)

So what do you look for in a game? Is there some mystical amount of advertising that is "just right"?

Re:awesome plan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833370)

Sure, none. I'll play every demo when they're available and make my own mind up.

Heavily advertised games are trying too hard and it puts me off.

Re:awesome plan (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834288)

So what do you look for in a game? Is there some mystical amount of advertising that is "just right"?

I'm genuinely baffled as to how this comment got modded up. You and three other dudes have never seen shit products that are over-advertised to make up for their shortcomings? Isn't that about 25% of what we bitch about around here?

Re:awesome plan (2)

milbournosphere (1273186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832876)

Sure, Valve makes money off of the sales, but so do the indie dev companies. I think that Valve and the indie groups have outdone themselves with the promotion of this game. I really think it's a win for everybody involved: Valve makes more money, the indie devs get a lot of exposure(and probably increased sales), and gamers get the game early. Plus, I'm still geeking out about the ARG. It's good marketing that helps to further define the universe that Portal and Half Life live in. And I give it two thumbs up. With the level of commitment Valve has given to the ARG and its viral marketing, I fully expect them to develop a good game to boot. Sure, it could be a dud, but I've seen plenty of game trailers that seem to show that they've really put some thought into the new gameplay aspects introduced in Portal 2. I would expect a media blitz for a crappy game from Ubisoft and the like, but I think I'll give Valve the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Re:awesome plan (2)

_xeno_ (155264) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832888)

I'm hoping that the advertising is to try and get the word out to a larger non-gaming audience.

No "serious gamer" doesn't already know about Portal 2, and I expect most already have the game pre-loaded. But remember that the surprising thing about Portal was that it reached an audience of non-gamers as well as the core FPS crowd.

The advertising is presumably an attempt to let this new audience know about the sequel.

Is it a bit much? Well, yes. I'm not sure why there were Portal 2 ads on every single bus in Boston starting the week after PAX East. (Portal 2 was playable there, but I didn't even bother trying.)

But I think the advertising campaign has more to do with trying to reach an audience Valve doesn't really know how to reach rather than the game necessarily being disappointing.

Not that I know, of course - I've never played it. I guess we'll all find out in a few days.

Re:awesome plan (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833382)

As a sort of serious gamer I would have bought it but I need to build a new PC. I agree this is to reach the non-hardcore market.Hopefully it works in wine as well as Portal does.

Re:awesome plan (1)

locallyunscene (1000523) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833530)

after PAX East. (Portal 2 was playable there, but I didn't even bother trying.)

No it wasn't, they just showed a video and you got an Aperture Science Salt Asbestos Curtain(t-shirt).

Re:awesome plan (1)

_xeno_ (155264) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833948)

Ah well - I just saw the unreasonably long lines, and stayed away entirely. :)

I could have sworn I read some article about someone who played Portal 2 at PAX East, but either that was a media-only thing or I misread it.

Re:awesome plan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832898)

Except if you own these games already you can join in at no additional cost while receiving in some cases new content for an already purchased game for FREE. And if you don't, you can buy them and play a new game that otherwise you would have passed up. Its not like Valve is forcing you to do this, you can simply not buy any of these games. This is great marketing for Portal 2 as well as smaller developers.

Re:awesome plan (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833124)

Something's bad if it's advertised? Sure, advertising makes bad things more successful than they "should" be, but plenty of awesome things are heavily advertised.

I saw the ads as more of a "let's show the world this gameplay". The people who bought Portal the first time around, like myself, were already FPS fans. We loved that it wasn't a shoot-em-up, but the exposure was pretty limited outside of that circle.

Meanwhile, something like 40% of Portal players are female. I imagine it took a long time for the ratio to shift that way, because it wasn't presented as a non-"gamer" game. They're definitely trying to change that, to appeal to people who wouldn't play Half-Life or Counter-Strike.

Or it could be that the game sucks, despite every piece of gameplay footage I've ever seen and the fact that Valve has *never* - to my knowledge - released a bad game.

Re:awesome plan (1)

Wraithlyn (133796) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833288)

Valve has gone on record saying Portal 2 is the best single-player experience they have ever crafted (and multiplayer is on par with L4D).

Valve is not known for making empty boasts, so I'm inclined to believe them until proven otherwise. In other words, STOKED!

Re:awesome plan (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833446)

I have gone on record saying "WHERE THE FUCK IS HL:EP3?"
I loved portal, but DAMMIT WHERE THE FUCK IS HL:EP3?

Re:awesome plan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35834002)

It's too soon to tell whether it will be a triumph, or whether it will break all of our hearts. Or maybe both.

Anyway, the first Portal wasn't exactly well-advertised. People bought it mainly because they were getting the other games in Orange Box (HL3/TF2). And a great many of those people enjoyed Portal. There's a huge, untapped market out there that probably doesn't even know what Portal is. [Cave Johnson voice] The solution? Advertising. [/Cave Johnson voice]

In any case, the degree of advertising doesn't necessarily correlate with quality of product either way (positive or negative correlation). And Valve has shown before that they would rather spend money on their own advertising ideas than pay a load of money to conventional advertisers, who usually don't get it (A game with no explosions? How are we supposed to market this?).

teach them gamepad fps losers a lesson! (-1, Flamebait)

Nyder (754090) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832706)

Sweet, and now peeps can teach them gamepad fps players a lesson on what works best. Of course, cries of PC & MAC players cheating because they will mop the floor against the gamepad fps playing retard peeps.

Re:teach them gamepad fps losers a lesson! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832770)

Not to burst your silly elitist bubble, but PS3s are quite happy using keyboard and mice.
Also, Portal2 isn't exactly the game that could be used to show this, besides some faster times in some levels.
You'll not be aiming for people's heads this time around, you will be aiming for huge surfaces that don't require too much precision.

Of course, whether or not Valve decided to allow K+M is another question.
Anyone know?

Re:teach them gamepad fps losers a lesson! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832928)

that's exactly the problem. Some games may support K+M if the devs decide to support it, which is not acceptable.

Re:teach them gamepad fps losers a lesson! (1)

ElKry (1544795) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833754)

Of course, whether or not Valve decided to allow K+M is another question.
Anyone know?

Yep, I know: no, they didn't allow it.

“No, unfortunately we don’t do that. The whole game is built around playtesting, which extends to the hardware and how people use it. We have people internally who played on the PS3 – we use it all the time – and we constantly iterated it.”

Also,

  "Luckily, Portal 2's not a super twitchy, complicated game, so we just focused on making a comfortable controller experience"

Re:teach them gamepad fps losers a lesson! (-1, Flamebait)

Desler (1608317) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832772)

Just so everyone knows the parent is has a tiny dick and is butthurt that a 5 year old beat him at a console FPS despite the fact that the parent views himself as some "1337" PC FPSer. So now he flails around on the internet trying to bash console FPS players out of his rage. Oh and that 5 year old had a larger penis too.

Re:teach them gamepad fps losers a lesson! (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833178)

I happen to agree with him. The mouse is a far superior input device for a FPS (even without the S). I was playing a PS3 FPS a few months ago on a friend's machine, might've been MW2 but I don't remember. I was playing with a keyboard and mouse I stole from his desktop, and people kept bitching me out for "hax". I'm not even sure how you'd write an aimbot for a console...

In any case, it makes a huge difference. Consoles are either-or; you're precise or fast. With my mouse, I can rotate around half the screen and accurately target a player's head once I get there. It's just so much faster it's not even funny.

Thankfully, Portal 2 isn't likely to require "twitch"-style aiming. But something like CS:S on PC vs. console would be a joke.

Re:teach them gamepad fps losers a lesson! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832842)

Ahhh ... as much as I despise console FPS's, you realize Portal 2's multiplayer co-op only, right?

Re:teach them gamepad fps losers a lesson! (2)

haystor (102186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832974)

This means that the PC player will jump through portals and dodge fire while the PS3 player stands on the button to keep the door open.

Re:teach them gamepad fps losers a lesson! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833012)

Sweet, and now peeps can teach them gamepad fps players a lesson on what works best. Of course, cries of PC & MAC players cheating because they will mop the floor against the gamepad fps playing retard peeps.

You idiot, both controller schemes work well for a number of different genres, and concessions have to be made for any type of control. Controlling an airplane, tank turret, vehicle of any sort, etc is _retarded_ with a mouse because you can't get away with the ridiculous turning speed that is 'OK' in an FPS. Close quarters fighting is so retarded with about any type of controller that developers have pretty much given up and implemented first button smash wins rules. How do you pan the map in an RTS now with today's gigantic monitors? We used to touch the sides of the screen and didn't have to go far to get there. Times have changed and now most people (AFAIK) use keys for panning now.

Games have to be built around the controls. That doesn't make one better than the other. You sorry dumbass.

Re:teach them gamepad fps losers a lesson! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833310)

... *aneurysm*

A More Dynamic Countdown (2)

milbournosphere (1273186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832748)

Here's a countdown that gives current percentage, as well as a countdown based on people's gaming patterns thus far: hasportal2launchedyet.com

Re:A More Dynamic Countdown (2)

CornflakeJustice (1733128) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832900)

THIS is a much more useful gauge. So thank you for showing this to me. I'm picking it up for the PS3 myself, but I like what Valve is doing and if I had money/a more significant interest in the games being offered in the Potato Sack Bundle, I'd probably be helping a bit more myself. As it stands, it's clever, and fun, and it's supporting a good/interesting cause in indie game development, and an opportunity for Valve/Steam to experiment with a new concept. Go them!

Re:A More Dynamic Countdown (1)

vicious0000 (720122) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833272)

Interesting link, but it tells me: "Current predicted release time (Your Timezone): Wednesday, 31st December 1969 @ 19:00 GMT-5"

Wow! They must be doing portals through time in the new version! ;)

Re:A More Dynamic Countdown (1)

milbournosphere (1273186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833388)

Yeah...it appears to be working now though.

PC VS PS3 Pwonage! (0)

DarthVain (724186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35832798)

I doubt you will be able to play cross platform any games really. PC players would destroy their lowly console brethren.

See who is online and buy stuff maybe.

Re:PC VS PS3 Pwonage! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35832986)

You realize portal 2 is a cooperative game right? There is no deathmatch mode.

Re:PC VS PS3 Pwonage! (3, Informative)

odin84gk (1162545) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833014)

It is a co-op game, not a competitive game. It doesn't matter if the PC gamer has an advantage, since you are still working together to reach the same goal.

Re:PC VS PS3 Pwonage! (4, Funny)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833206)

Bah! As a 1337 PC gamer, I'd pwn you, even in a co-op.

Re:PC VS PS3 Pwonage! (2)

nschubach (922175) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833478)

Actually, you could probably grief the PS3 player to hell and back simply by portal'ing them into things (like pits.) Heck, you could even treat them like companion cubes.

Re:PC VS PS3 Pwonage! (2)

Slutticus (1237534) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834682)

Or an infinite portal.

Re:PC VS PS3 Pwonage! (1)

JorgeFierro (1304567) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833120)

Except in games where having a keyboard and a mouse doesn't really give you an upper hand, like Portal 2.

Re:PC VS PS3 Pwonage! (1)

Tolkien (664315) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833512)

Absolutely, provided the aiming aids built into console titles are disabled. People claim to kick ass at console titles with huge kill counts and so forth. I've even personally heard people say they believe they do better at consoles than on PC (bullshit). All those console games have code specifically geared around correcting the player's aim. Let's disable that code in those games and see just how awesome those players think they are when they fire at their feet or straight up into the sky instead of directly at an enemy's head.

The real loser is Microsoft (3, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833054)

They refuse to open up their Live network to MMO's, Steam, or anyone else. And they have the audacity to charge their users $60 a year for the privilege. So PS3 users get DC Universe online and a Steam enabled Portal 2. Xbox users just get a bill for $5 a month--and jackshit to show for it.

Between shit like this and all the exclusives that they've lost in the last two years, sometimes I wonder if MS even has anyone working in their Xbox division anymore. If there is anyone, it doesn't look like they're doing anything.

Re:The real loser is Microsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833296)

Hey! We get access to tons of stuff, like the ability to pay for Netflix! ... wait.

Re:The real loser is Microsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833684)

They refuse to open up their Live network to MMO's,

Aren't the Final Fantasy MMO's on the 360? I know 11 is.

Re:The real loser is Microsoft (1)

Fancia (710007) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834986)

FF11 (and Phantasy Star Universe) predates Games for Windows Live, which is Microsoft's official solution for cross-platform play. I'm pretty sure it's now a requirement that games with cross-platform play can only do it through GFWL - and that limits your platforms to only Windows and 360.

Re:The real loser is Microsoft (1)

MooseMuffin (799896) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833876)

Depends on how you define loser I suppose. They're providing similar services as the ps3, except they're raking in subscription cash while doing it.

Re:The real loser is Microsoft (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834332)

Do people actually care about this stuff? Who cares what achievements a total stranger has gotten? The whole concept is just foreign to me.

Re:The real loser is Microsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35835012)

DC Universe Online on the PS3 has a subscription fee.

Cake... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833394)

now Valve can eat their "Cake" and have it as well ;)

Re:Cake... (1)

cobrausn (1915176) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833992)

Lies.

Online play tied to a Steam account (1)

Xian97 (714198) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833418)

Some of the cross platform features sound nice, but it is a big change from the way that online play has worked on the PS3. It sounds like you are going to have to link your PSN account to Steam to play online instead of just playing through PSN. That means that other accounts on your PS3 will need their own copy if they want to play online.

I can't think of any other game on the PS3 that does this - for example I have Killzone 2, CoD, Motorstorm, and more. My PS3 has 3 PSN accounts on it, myself and my two sons. We can each play online under our own PSN account with the one game disc - it isn't tied to a single account.

Re:Online play tied to a Steam account (1)

Psx29 (538840) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833620)

Metal Gear Online has it's own registration/user ID system that is separate from PSN

Re:Online play tied to a Steam account (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35834982)

"That means that other accounts on your PS3 will need their own copy if they want to play online. "

No, it doesn't. Steam accounts are free.

Obviously (1)

Bobfrankly1 (1043848) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833434)

Portal 2 Bringing Steam To the PS3

Something needs to bring some steam to the smoldering heap that is the PS3.

Evil Robot AI (1)

Georules (655379) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833742)

I don't understand why we are working to try to reboot an evil robot AI. This sounds like the kind of thing that you do not do.

Re:Evil Robot AI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35834096)

I don't understand why we are working to try to reboot an evil robot AI.

She promised moist delicious cake in return.

Portal 2 (1)

Flipstylee (1932884) | more than 3 years ago | (#35833814)

Been watching this one for awhile, following the odd links and i'd have to say, valve is the shit.
This potato sack frenzy would have to be of viral status for the 4 something million+ potatoes..
I'm playing because i bought the pack anyhow, and enjoy the games.
And day early would be better.

PC+Console online is nothing new. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35833830)

PC and Console gamers have been sharing games on servers as far back as the Dreamcast. Quake III allowed DC and PC players to frag together, provided the PC players stayed at a current version (support was broken with a certain PC patch).

Yet another reason to love my ps3 and pc. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35834260)

Cracks me up to see so many people on here excited about this and yet 2 weeks ago it was nothing but hate for sony. Your all a bunch of hypocrits that arent real gamers, you just want to be on whatever bandwagon is cool to be on.

I own about 25 systems including a ps3, 360 and my gaming pc but one thing I have never done on my 360 is pay to play games online. I bought a 360, I pay for a internet connection, I pay for a 360 game, Im sure as hell not going to pay again just to play that game online. Thats paying for 4 things just to play one game online, heaven forbid I want netflix though because Id have to pay for xbl just so I could pay for netflix. Especially not so I can listen to a ton of immature people scream insults at everyone. I like my 360 well enough and it has some good exclusive games but the quality of the systems are horrible and MS will rape your wallet at every single chance they can.

I love my pc because of how powerful it is, how versatile it is, the mods, the variety of games and I can play online for free. I love my ps3 because its simple, it has a lot of great games and I can play games online for free. And now valve and sony are marrying the two, its a small step but its a step. Im excited to see what becomes of this.

Postal2 (1)

hduff (570443) | more than 3 years ago | (#35834308)

I got excited when I thought that I would be able to play Postal2 on my PS3. Portal2, not so much.

I Haven't Seen Portal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35834824)

because Steam screwed up my machine and I couldn't seem to run it without Steam. Hopefully there will be a no-steam version of Portal 2. If not, I guess I won't be playing it either. I'm surprised that there aren't more people howling about how horrible Steam is. Maybe I've just been unlucky with it.

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