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Apple Sues Samsung Over Galaxy Phones and Tablets

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the pursuing-patents-on-geometric-shapes dept.

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mystikkman writes "In the latest patent suit to hit the smartphone industry, Apple is suing Samsung, alleging the Galaxy line of phones and tablets infringe on a number of Apple's patents. 'Samsung's Galaxy Tab computer tablet also slavishly copies a combination of several elements of the Apple Product Configuration Trade Dress,' Apple says in its suit, noting that Samsung's tablet, like Apple's, uses a similar rectangular design with rounded corners, similar black border and array of icons. Apple previously sued HTC over Android. If Samsung is found to be infringing on the software, all the Android OEMs could be vulnerable."

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Again? (4, Insightful)

wsxyz (543068) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860516)

Didn't Windows copy the Lisa & Mac "trade dress"? How did that turn out Apple?

Re:Again? (5, Insightful)

SpryGuy (206254) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860544)

Apple claimed they did, but I never thought so. There are significant differences in the UIs, and always have been. And the concept of 'over-lapping windows' is so generic it really can't be claimed as a patent, imho.

To claim that a tablet can't be rectangular with rounded corners and a border? Dear lord, that's just ridiculous.

Re:Again? (-1)

golden age villain (1607173) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860594)

To claim that a tablet can't be rectangular with rounded corners and a border? Dear lord, that's just ridiculous.

It is indeed, but because I know Slashdot, I choose to believe the most probable explanation, that no one read TFA which does not state anything about the shape of tablets.

Re:Again? (4, Informative)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860634)

"“Samsung’s Galaxy Tab computer tablet also slavishly copies a combination of several elements of the Apple Product Configuration Trade Dress,” Apple says in its suit, noting that Samsung’s tablet, like Apple’s, uses a similar rectangular design with rounded corners, similar black border and array of icons."

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Re:Again? (1)

icebike (68054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860748)

Yup, says exactly that.

But that just points out that this is a nuisance suit, Apple claiming your tablet looks so much like our tablet that its hurting our sales.
Every sedan looks pretty much like ever other sedan these days too. Yet the car companies seldom become petulant children and
start suing each other.

Apple is trying to own a form factor, which they will never succeed at doing, and bringing this suit opens them for huge counter-suits
by manufacturers that used that same form factor before Apple even dreamed up the tablet.

Re:Again? (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860874)

My Droid 2 looks the same way. Is there a hold-harmless cross-license between Moto and Apple? Oh, wait....

Re:Again? (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860638)

That may be, but to ensure my tablet is not subject to a rounded corners suit, I'll design it with razor edges.
-nB

Re:Again? (3, Funny)

demonbug (309515) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860756)

That may be, but to ensure my tablet is not subject to a rounded corners suit, I'll design it with razor edges.
-nB

You'll just be opening yourself up to a lawsuit from Motorola.

Re:Again? (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860886)

good point, maybe I'll put a high voltage plasma emitter ringing the tablet, using the plasma as an antenna, on the bright side it will naturally keep users fingers off the antenna :)

On a more serious note, isn't the rectangular tablet with rounded edges covered (at least in concept) by prior art vis a vis Star Trek PADDs?
-nB

Re:Again? (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860812)

is so generic it really can't be claimed as a patent

You must be new here. And by 'here' I mean this world.
Companies would sue their own children for copyright infringement if they were able to do so. Oh and will will get much worse. Much, much worse. In a few years there will be only two companies left. A company that sues everybody and everything and own all of it and the law firm that represents them.

And then they set up a joint venture ...

And there is nobody to stop them. Well, at east 2 generation was able to pretend to live somewhat free. The ones before them and the ones after us will be slaves or at least serves to the happy few.

Re:Again? (0)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860898)

Corporations would sue their own children

TFTFY.

Re:Again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861046)

The word you are looking for is "serf."

Re:Again? (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860600)

Apple kept their suit going until the war was long over, but Apple only dropped the case after Microsoft gave them $150 million [apple.com] and MS gave assurances that they would continue to develop Office on the Mac (both companies had their own reasons for this arrangement, granted).

Re:Again? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860660)

Apple had previously licensed most (179/189) of the GUI elements to Microsoft.

Pinky: Gee, Brain, what do you want to do tonight? (1)

bobs666 (146801) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860780)

Brain: The same thing we do every night, Pinky - try to take over the world!

Ya, Apple and Windows did go head to head, over the GUI. Thats IMHO why the Windows GUI is so bad. Windows did everything backwards to keep from getting sued. But now you are use to it, now normal interfaces seem strange.

On another Topic some one was wondering where the standard interfaces where. Well now you see it. until the man that can out litigate the rest will define what pad/pod/phone you will be using and how it will work.

Perhaps it is time to stop all this madness.

Re:Pinky: Gee, Brain, what do you want to do tonig (5, Funny)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861016)

No kidding. I'm still trying to figure out how MS missed the obviously intuitive UI element of using the trash can for eject.

Re:Again? (1)

HermMunster (972336) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860852)

This sort of suit (aside from the patents) has already been tried years ago by Apple. It is destined to fail, miserably. It will cost them a lot of money. As a company Apple is beginning to show it sucketh.

Re:Again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860904)

"Didn't Windows copy the Lisa & Mac "trade dress"? How did that turn out Apple?"

No.
Apple GUI is click and hold while moving to select for a menu.
Windows is click, release, move to select and click again.

Thats just one example. The Windows method is superior as it does not rely on you holding the mouse button down while selecting. This reduces the likelihood of RSI. As a long time suffer of RSI, this is a hell of a bonus. Note that Apple these days allow a choice of Click and Hold or the Windows style selection.

And anyway, Apple copied Xerox's work. Know your history.

Apple tried look and feel lawsuits in the 1980s. They sued just about everybody. And lost. They should lose this as well (if there is any sense in the law).

Young geeks thing Apple can do no evil. If they knew their history they would know that Apple make Microsoft look like Bambie.

Are these people insane? (5, Insightful)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860524)

"uses a similar rectangular design with rounded corners, similar black border"

What is wrong with these people?

Re:Are these people insane? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860542)

Hey. If you can keep your competition out through any means necessary...

Re:Are these people insane? (2)

NoobixCube (1133473) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860618)

Samsung should sue Apple for the visual siilarity between the Apple TV and Samsung's DVRs and set top boxes.

Re:Are these people insane? (2, Insightful)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860894)

Who says they won't?

Re:Are these people insane? (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860646)

My desk is rectangular with rounded corners, my laptop is rectangular with rounded corners, my external monitor is rectangular with rounded corners. All of these things are older than iPhones. I bet I can find other examples.

Re:Are these people insane? (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860918)

But, it's not within the context of a mobile computing device whose shape resembles a thin rectangle.

Re:Are these people insane? (2)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861058)

My laptop is a thin mobile computing device.

Re:Are these people insane? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860804)

> What is wrong with these people?

The real question is: why do we keep giving them money?

Re:Are these people insane? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860880)

When "them" is the federal, state, or local government, I give them money to avoid being thrown in jail. When "them" is anybody else, it's because they provide a good or service that I want at a price I consider fair.

Re:Are these people insane? (2)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861032)

The educated minority is forced to compromise with the uneducated majority. It's called democracy, best get used to it.

Re:Are these people insane? (3, Interesting)

teg (97890) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860944)

How did tablets look before the iPad? While iPad was the first tablet most people/businesses cared about - the genius of the iPad is that was not a laptop in a different form factor - there were tablets before. Did they look similar? Or is it just after the iPad that the design looks obvious?

Re:Are these people insane? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860954)

AAPL 331.85 +4.39 (1.34%) 305.73B

With a "B". No really, think about that. Okay, got it? Now re-read your question.

Someday a lot of people are going to be holding a lot of worthless stock. My prediction is it will be about 45 min after Jobs falls over dead. Sounds like the lawyers agree with me and they are trying to get a head start.

Re:Are these people insane? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860972)

Unquenchable greed.

Re:Are these people insane? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860992)

"uses a similar rectangular design with rounded corners, similar black border"

What is wrong with these people?

They're holding it wrong.

any Apple fanboy want to support this lawsuit? (2)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860530)

Please, anyone at all? How on earth is this reasonable?

Re:any Apple fanboy want to support this lawsuit? (5, Interesting)

chemosh6969 (632048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860554)

There was a comment in the cloud article that Apple doesn't do this sort of thing. I found it amusing reading that comment and then this article in the same day.

Re:any Apple fanboy want to support this lawsuit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860730)

More reasonable, at least, than your strawman of the stereotypical frothing-at-the-mouth, Apple fanboy. Funny, I see a lot of people bashing Apple and this lawsuit, but no fanboys yet...at least not the pro-Apple variety.

Re:any Apple fanboy want to support this lawsuit? (1)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860750)

A man who spends too long looking in the mirror eventually fails to notice himself.

Re:any Apple fanboy want to support this lawsuit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860784)

No. Not really. This is stupid.

Re:any Apple fanboy want to support this lawsuit? (1)

phonewebcam (446772) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860914)

When Apple was smartphone king, just a couple of short years ago, it wouldn't have dreamt of this. Now its lost the war [marketingcharts.com] it's just resorting to the desperate tactics m$ deploys to start with, seeing as they never had any market share to speak of and never will.

Re:any Apple fanboy want to support this lawsuit? (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861060)

Why does it have to be reasonable? What universe were you born into?

Inexcusable! (5, Insightful)

Renaissance 2K (773059) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860532)

An iPad is the only device on the planet allowed to have a rectangular shape and rounded corners!

Re:Inexcusable! (2)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860566)

Yeah, all other tablets should have a parallelepiped shape.

I can't think of any other natural shape for a tablet to be honest...

Re:Inexcusable! (1)

Renaissance 2K (773059) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860602)

Surely, trapezoidal tablets are the wave of the future... until somebody patents trapezoids, too.

Re:Inexcusable! (1)

dopehouse (1371153) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860714)

But you still can't have rounded corners. Because, if you hold the trapezoidal tablet with rounded corners in the wrong view-angle infront of your eyes, it can become an "rectangular design with rounded corner" again.

Fuck apple. (4, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860556)

Yeah. fuck them. its as elaborately as can be put. "Hey, you cannot use our moving-your-hand-to-right-to-move-a-page-right" 'innovation'. because, well, millions of fanbois have pumped up our control freakness by obliging with everything we did to them, and we think everyone will do the same.

The Rosetta Stone! (5, Funny)

Nemyst (1383049) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860568)

It's got rounded corners, it's black, it's rectangular, and it's a tablet.

Beat that, Apple.

Re:The Rosetta Stone! (1)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860654)

It's not naturally black, it's probably not a rectangular shape in its original undamaged shape (tapered), and it's a stele, not a tablet.

Re:The Rosetta Stone! (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861072)

It's not naturally black, it's probably not a rectangular shape in its original undamaged shape (tapered), and it's a stele, not a tablet.

Don't sweat the small details. You can't get everything right. He at least [almost] got one right.

Re:The Rosetta Stone! (5, Informative)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860912)

Jobs is suing God for the ten commandments (on rectangular tablets) and burning bushes (a method of using shiny things to mesmerize the impressionable).

Not all IP is the same (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860576)

Trade dress is not the same as patent. I don't see why Apple bothers with the trade dress argument -- it spectacularly failed with Windows.

Re:Not all IP is the same (1)

chemosh6969 (632048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860686)

If you read the article, it's also citing patents it holds on design "Apple cites patents issued in 2009 and 2010 that cover the physical design of the iPhone along with various trademarks for its app icons."

Re:Not all IP is the same (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860760)

Even still, it's ridiculous that you can patent the look of things. It's not at all revolutionary in any way, just aesthetically pleasing for this decade.

Has been mistaken before. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860590)

Saying that, my mum has seen this phone in mobile shops saying they are selling a cheap version of the iphone there so it clearly does have some visual similarities. She isnt the first person who has ever said that to me either.

Re:Has been mistaken before. (2)

mywhitewolf (1923488) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860788)

Xerox, Kleenex, Sharpie, etc. Doesn't surprise me that some would call the Samsung Galaxy S an iPhone, some call their cannon photocopier a "Xerox machine" this case should get thrown out, the SGS has completely different hardware to a 3gs. the OS is android so that's hardly Samsungs fault, and the only things that are really similar are overall shape, but when you look closer you can see lots of subtle differences in design. this is like ford building a car and then suing everyone who makes a car that follows the same design layout (steering wheel in front, 4 tires & 4 doors)

Re:Has been mistaken before. (1)

rrossman2 (844318) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860834)

Well shit.. Nissan should sue Ford since so many people mistake the Escape as an Xterra (which came out 1 year earlier)!

Would you really want a tablet with SQUARE corners so they poke you? A phone with square corners? Heck I have phones older than any iPhone/iPad that have rounded corners, are black, and have a black border.

I guess all the TV makers should sue each other since, if you removed the Brand Name off of them, people would easily mistake a Sony for a Samsung for an LG for a Philips, etc.

Re:Has been mistaken before. (1)

rrossman2 (844318) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860846)

Or vice versa (Xterra as Escape)

Re:Has been mistaken before. (1)

slapout (93640) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861004)

So your mum recognized that it was not an iPhone.

I called it when I saw it (5, Insightful)

neosar82 (792049) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860610)

When my boss bought a galaxy tab I was curious to check it out. I spent about 5 minutes playing with it, handed it back to him, and said, "They're gonna wind up in court over this thing". I'm indifferent when it comes to android vs. ios. I have both a Droid X and an iPhone 4, and I use both every day. I find things about both platforms that are unique and that I prefer to the other. However, when you look at what Samsung did with their UI... It's pretty pathetic to be honest. They literally copied entire app UIs wholesale (even icons). There is no question that you can argue that all mail apps look similar, but this was almost pixel for pixel. They went so far as to make their own UI widgets (instead of the stock android ones) that looked JUST like the Apple ones. I'm not a huge fan of software patents, but there's a difference between similarities in programs that do the same function and literally just ripping off EXACTLY what another company does.

Re:I called it when I saw it (5, Insightful)

The13thSin (1092867) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860736)

Yeah, 'cos a grid of app icons was Apple's innovation... Just like a rounded rectangular shaped phone...

Besides, you can't patent or copyright an idea, just your implementation. Apple is just as guilty (if not more so) of copying other people's ideas as any one else.

Re:I called it when I saw it (2, Informative)

neosar82 (792049) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860770)

I didn't mean the shape and arrangement. I meant the icons themselves. As in the artwork.

Re:I called it when I saw it (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860822)

The artwork would be covered by copyright, not patents.

Re:I called it when I saw it (1)

neosar82 (792049) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860854)

Fair enough. I was just pointing out how far they went.

Re:I called it when I saw it (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860826)

Infringing with user interface is something unique to computers - it's the only place where you can't expect the same feature to be in the same place between any two products. To make a car analogy, it'd be like car manufacturers having to put the gas cap on the other side of the car because "it looks too much like ours!"...worse, putting the gas pedal on the other side because "it looks too much like ours!".

I don't understand how icons became innovative because they had rounded borders and look shiny.

Re:I called it when I saw it (1)

neosar82 (792049) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861030)

That analogy doesn't work here. It's not like them putting the gas cap on the same side of the car (that'd be the two things doing the same function thing I mentioned in my OP). This is like them putting the EXACT same body on their chassis and slapping their logo on it. At least the specific apps I am referring to (Mail jumps to mind).

Re:I called it when I saw it (1)

starfishsystems (834319) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860910)

Yeah, but that would be strictly a copyright violation, wouldn't it? Surely it's not possible to claim that the appearance of an icon is protected by patent.

Re:I called it when I saw it (1)

neosar82 (792049) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860978)

FTA: In the latest intellectual property suit to hit the smartphone industry, Apple is suing Samsung, alleging the Galaxy line of phones and tablets infringe on a number of the company’s patents and trademarks. I cannot speak to the patent thing all I can say is that the UI widgets, etc. looked EXACTLY like the iPhone in the custom mail app in particular. They specifically mention trademark so...

Really? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860614)

I'm shocked at the comments so far.

It's obvious to anyone that the Galaxy Tab is trying very very hard to look and act like an iPad. The same goes for most android phones (trying to look like iphones). How about condemning the copy cats? I'm with Apple on this one.

Re:Really? (1)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860692)

Its a Tablet.

How else is it supposed to look? It has to be rectangular, since its the most natural shape. And it has to be thin. If you put sharp edges, it'll feel uncomfortable , so you round them. Simple.

Yo Dawg (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860624)

So I heard you liek tablets with rectangular designs with rounded corners and black borders, so we put a lawsuit on you.

This is just silly (1)

Halifax Samuels (1124719) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860628)

They may as well be suing them because "their thing has stuff, and our thing already has stuff."

Re:This is just silly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860706)

They may as well be suing them because "their thing has stuff, and our thing already has stuff."

Flip phone (1)

Qwavel (733416) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860642)

The idea and design of the flip phone is much more unique and sophisticated then a "rectangular design with rounded corners, similar black border and array of icons". Did someone try to patent the general design of the flip phone?

I doubt it since every seems to make a flip phone and I've never heard of anyone being sued over it. Maybe greater sanity prevailed back then.

Re:Flip phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860958)

don't know if Motorola had a patent, but I know they had the trademark "flip-phone" or something like that

Tablets remind me of something... (5, Insightful)

darien.train (1752510) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860658)

I just can't put my finger on it. http://fortclatsopbookstore.com/shop/images/143_1.jpg [fortclatsopbookstore.com]

Re:Tablets remind me of something... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860994)

I just can't put my finger on it. http://fortclatsopbookstore.com/shop/images/143_1.jpg [fortclatsopbookstore.com]

Expect to be sued for posting Apple "trade secrets".

That's an iPhone copy! (2, Interesting)

Talennor (612270) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860666)

I've seen fake iPhones that look less like iPhones than that Galazy i9000 in the picture. I was ready to jump on the Slashdot bandwagon and complain about patents and trade dress. But that looks like an iPhone knock off. And seeing that there are competing phones that don't look like an iPhone, I think Apple has a case here.

Re:That's an iPhone copy! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861068)

It looks like an iPhone in the story because it IS a fucking iPhone. They don't show the Galaxy i9000 until comparison shots, and once they do, it looks nothing like an iPhone [gsmarena.com] .

Don't worry, this is more Apple patent abuse. You know what it looks like more than an iPhone?

Any number of similar Android phones [phonearena.com] . Funny, that.

can code owned by bankers & lawyers save world (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860680)

that, & one less cup of open source coffee per day? once the chosen ones bankers & holycost stock markup shysters are involved, there's not much open, or saving, about it. just a bunch of agnostics who are frequently annoyed that they cannot stop counting everything, &/or keep making it work...more,,, better,,,. the value of the lives we're failing to protect exceeds our own so far, just in numbers. disarm

Routine Patent Defense? (1)

lymond01 (314120) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860682)

I wonder if these suits could be filed with a checkbox marked "Routine Patent Defense" so it doesn't waste everyone's time. I'm guessing it won't make any difference but a company should defend its patents. Or maybe that's trademarks. I'll just go back to mopping floors here...

Previous art (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860708)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablets_of_Stone

Xerox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860718)

Where did Apple get their idea for the mouse, or for the personal computer for that matter? They took it from Xerox.

Whatever! (1)

PmanAce (1679902) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860734)

I have a samsung galaxy S and my bud here besides me has an iPhone 4. One could say they are similar as in both are phones and have a screen...

What do they expect? (1)

meerling (1487879) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860764)

All non-apple handheld devices must now follow specific design requirements if they compete on any level with an apple product.

1 - They shall not be rectangular in shape. Circular, Conic, and Toroidal are occasionally acceptable, but pentagonal is preferred.

2 - They shall not have rounded corners. All corners and edges should be as discomfortingly sharp as possible, preferably to the point of drawing blood.

3 - They shall not be black, or white, in fact, we claim all primary colors. They can use fecal brown, puke green, or plaid because we don't like plaid.

4 - As our icons are based on a representation of the action or item it represents, theirs can't. We don't care what it is, as long as it doesn't look cool and gives you no idea what it's actually for, other than that, the sky's the limit.

I think that just about sums it up. >^_^<

Rectangular design with round corners? Seriously? (0)

89cents (589228) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860768)

Looking at all of my devices (monitors, computer, keyboard, mouse, phone, etc.), everything is rectangular with rounded corners. The only variance is how much the corners are rounded and how thick it is. What nonsense.

2001 Called (2)

maroberts (15852) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860776)

from 1968 -.they want their Monolith with rounded corners back

Apple? Why is the Beatles record label doing this? (1)

phonewebcam (446772) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860778)

All this talk of companies copying other companies is really confusing.

I'm going to sue Steve Jobs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860836)

He's obviously copying my shape - Two legs and two arms connected by a central body, topped of with an ellipsoid-shaped appendage containing the CPU.

Nothing to do with IP (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860860)

This has nothing to do with IP - and everything to do with leverage for better component pricing. Samsung is a big component supplier for many Apple devices. If Apple can force them to make changes to hardware/software designs through this litigation (which could cost Samsung a lot of $), then they can cut a deal for better pricing by trading licenses on the violated patents.

In fact, just the threat of litigation may be enough. Apple has a LOT more money to spend on this kind of stuff than Samsung. I suspect Apple did a financial analysis and decided that the $$ they'd spend on litigation would end up giving them better component pricing in the long run.

Apple is all about micro-managing the supply chain even more than it micro-manages the user experience and App Store submissions. It's why the iPad still can't be beaten on price.

Samsung is also a supplier (3, Interesting)

Stuntmonkey (557875) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860882)

This is interesting, given that Apple buys a lot of its flash and other important components from Samsung, by one estimate over $7B annually. Neither can afford to not do business with the other. Maybe this is the opening move in a components negotiation?

As a lawsuit this seems ineffective as a way of preventing competition. By the time this plods its way through the court, Samsung will be four product generations down the road. Maybe this is all just PR, a way for Apple to accuse Samsung of being "non-innovative" and spread general FUD about Android. But I don't think history has shown that to be a viable strategy. Moreover I have to say that as owner of both the iPhone and Galaxy S, the similarities between them are pretty superficial.

Size Matters (1)

coolmoose25 (1057210) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860890)

So Apple is claiming that they are stealing the rounded corners and rectangular shape? Should Hasbro sue Apple for "slavishly" stealing the Etch-A-Sketch? But the REAL point here is that NOBODY is going to mistake a Samsung Galaxy Tab for an iPad - they are completely different sizes (and personally, I find the 7 inch size FAR more useful than the 10 inch one)

Yeah, I know, that's what she said... grow up!

Congratuations Apple (0)

NiceGeek (126629) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860900)

I've defended you through a lot of what I thought was just mindless bitching on /. but I can't defend this. This is the dumbest suit I've seen in a long time.

Re:Congratuations Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860966)

You're not such a nice geek after all

summary starts out well, then goes downhill (3, Insightful)

sribe (304414) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860902)

Samsung's Galaxy Tab computer tablet also slavishly copies a combination of several elements of the Apple Product Configuration Trade Dress

So I've been seeing this all over the web today, and this is the first article I've seen that lets us know that it's trade dress or a "design patent" that is (allegedly) being infringed, rather than a software patent.

If Samsung is found to be infringing on the software, all the Android OEMs could be vulnerable.

Oh well, it's /. so the exaggeration at the end is to be expected. But no, if Apple is found to be infringing, the only other Android OEMs to be threatened would be the ones who tried to copy the iPhone's look as closely as possible, in other words, none as far as I know.

What it tells us (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35860940)

Seriously? So Galaxy S does kick Apple's butt to pain it! If you can't win them, sue them! :P

To promote... (1)

minio (1640735) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860962)

...the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
So is this promoting Progress of "Science" or "useful Arts"?

Samsung should have done a Möbius strip table (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35860964)

Apple says in its suit, noting that Samsung's tablet, like Apple's, uses a similar rectangular design with rounded corners

Samsung: "Yes, but our tablet's rounded corners contain hidden razor sharp blades, which can be extended, with an app, and then you can toss it across Starbucks like a frisbee like a flying guillotine."

Copying the GUI is a valid point, but making a tablet, that looks like a tablet . . . ? When I take the train to work, everyone seems to have a laptop or netbook . . . that all pretty seem to look alike.

The Patent/Suing System is flawed (2)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861024)

Wouldn't you rather have apple try to outdo Samsung by creating some awesome new features in their next phone/tablet? Instead of tryign to push Samsung backwards?

Technology is kinda like a race. You can either win by having the better technology/features/whatever, or you can win by pushing everyone else back.

I would rather everyone focuses their efforts on pushing technology forward instead. The consumers are the ones who end up winning in the end.

Palm called, they want their grid of icons back... (1)

AnttiV (1805624) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861062)

Erm.. sorry Apple, I love (some of) your products to death, but as a company you sure try as you might to get on my bad side. My Palm Tungsten from the year Sword and Shield looks a lot like an iPhone too, with the grid of icons on the homescreen and all (also, Galaxy S' homescreen incidentally DOESN'T have the icons, you have to hit the app drawer icon first, the homescreen itself is completely customizable...).

Apple is hoping to slow down the wave of HONEYCOMB (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861064)

Unlike with the iPHONE....Apple is not getting a 2-3 year head start in the tablet wars....and just like how DROID OS Phones have overtaken the iPhone....so shall it happen with Android Tablets.

You figured that Apple would have learned some lessons from the 80s.....but Jobs was arrogant then...and he is still arrogant now. History repeating itself......just replace Microsoft with Google this time around.

Ever since they started earning a profit the new Silver Apple has become a real jerk........anyone else miss the little company with the Rainbow Apple that did its own thing and was happy having its own niche and intelligent cult following instead of the bunch of the elitist idiotic non-tech style over substance twits that compromise the Apple fans of the of the 21st century??

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