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What Monty Python Teaches Us About Computing

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the on-second-thought-let's-not-go-there dept.

Education 102

Esther Schindler writes "Does the computer industry seem just a little too strange? Never fear: Monty Python encapsulated several nuggets of wisdom years ago that summarize exactly what is behind the sometimes-tawdry behavior of vendors, the open source community, and marketing departments."

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Oh (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861188)

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!

Re:Oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861210)

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!

Yes you did.

Re:Oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861384)

No I didn't!

Re:Oh (1)

cusco (717999) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861776)

No one ever does . . .

Re:Oh (3, Funny)

RDW (41497) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862188)

'Our weapons are Surprise, Fear, and an almost fanatical dedication to Guido van Rossum!'

Re:Oh (1)

tom17 (659054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35863430)

Call that an argument?

Truth in programming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861204)

"Let us not be down hearted. One complete catastrophe is only the beginning."

Life Of Brian.

Re:Truth in programming (1)

Phoghat (1288088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35868102)

"Everything I Know In Life I've Learned From Monty Python" Available on Amazon in hard cover and Kindle format, due out in June. Preorder now!

Spam! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861208)

Spam spam spam spam........

Re:Spam! (1)

andyjb (1625561) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861224)

its clearly Spam spam spam spam, span eggs and spam

Re:Spam! (1)

andyjb (1625561) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861248)

and now for something more serious though - its a page with some python you tube clips on it. Seems a bit tenuous to extract meaning from them!

Re:Spam! (2)

by (1706743) (1706744) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861452)

its a page with some python you tube clips on it.

No dude that's flash.

Re:Spam! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35864384)

its a page with some python you tube clips on it.

No dude that's flash.

Yo dawg, I heard you didn't like Flash, so I wrote a Python script [github.com] so you could get YouTube through 'yo tube without Youtube!

Re:Spam! (1)

p51d007 (656414) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862760)

How about spam eggs bacon sausage & spam...that doesn't have much spam in it.

But I don't like spam! (1)

p51d007 (656414) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862468)

I prefer spam, bacon, eggs, spam spam & spam, with a side order of spam.

Re:But I don't like spam! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35862882)

While sitting at my round table after dark, I prefer ham and jam and spam.

Your wife... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861218)

Does she go? Eh squire, know what I mean? Whhaaargghh.

just what we've been waiting for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861246)

Sort of a khanacademy.com digest of Monty Python sketches referenced in slashdot forums.

OK, if you want to be normal... (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861254)

OK, if you want to be normal, step 1: stop quoting Python flicks.

Normalcy aside, that stuff was mildly amusing the first time if you could get past the accents.

I mean, really, what does all the Python referencing in the geek community prove other than "I'm one of you", which is supposed to be the opposite of... oh fuck it. It's a waste of time.

Oh and blah, blah, blah geek card. Fuck that too.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861282)

Who shit in your Cheerios this morning, pumpkin?

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (4, Funny)

plover (150551) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862140)

Who shit in your Cheerios this morning, pumpkin?

I don't know, but I want that job when the guy who does it quits.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (3, Interesting)

Jerslan (1088525) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861342)

Who said anything about wanting to be normal?

If you RTFA you'd see that he applies commonly known Monty Python skits to real world situations when working on a Software Project.

This has nothing to do with "geek cred" or anything like that. It's just another way of looking at something that's been around for a while.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (2)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861794)

I mean, really, what does all the Python referencing in the geek community prove

I think a big part of the appeal of Python in the 'geek' community is that the writing (at least in the well-known sketches) is just plain 'clever.' They don't dumb it down - They just assume the audience gets it, and move on. There hasn't really been anything like it, since then.

From a centurion correcting Brian's bad Latin grammar, to songs about philosophers, to word plays - "The palindrome of bolton would be notlob!"

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (1)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862160)

There hasn't really been anything like it, since then.

"A Bit of Frye and Laurie" [amazon.com] comes close.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35868056)

You post a link that has the name spelled correctly, but you're too retarded to copy and paste it. Mohhhh-ron.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (2)

mcneely.mike (927221) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862338)

and that's the rub... american tv assumes that americans DON'T get it, so they do the punchline, do the laugh track, then basically spell out the joke for the ones who didn't even get it the first time, then do the laugh track again for those even too stupid to get it after the explanation. americans have little good comedy and VERY little great comedy because americans know americans are not that savvy.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35867512)

and that's the rub... american tv assumes that americans DON'T get it, so they do the punchline, do the laugh track, then basically spell out the joke for the ones who didn't even get it the first time, then do the laugh track again for those even too stupid to get it after the explanation. americans have little good comedy and VERY little great comedy because americans know americans are not that savvy.

Hey it's another person bad mouthing Americans on Slashdot!

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (1)

MrNiCeGUi (302919) | more than 3 years ago | (#35872106)

Well, for example, My Name Is Earl did not have a laugh track. It was great for me, since the jokes that "hit" would be completely unexpected. A laugh track is laid over jokes that are really not even remotely funny, and you become sort of jaded and are not able to appreciate the really good ones when they come. I believe that a show such as the Big Bang Theory would be pretty funny if it didn't have a laugh track, but as is stands it isn't. A laugh track is supposed to clue people on the really "geek" jokes on the show, and in doing so kills it for those that would be able to appreciate them on their own.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (1)

mcneely.mike (927221) | more than 3 years ago | (#35874106)

that's the only thing i hate about the big bang theory... wish they'd ship the disks with the ability to turn off the laugh track.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (1)

Thing 1 (178996) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862876)

From a centurion correcting Brian's bad Latin grammar, to songs about philosophers, to word plays - "The palindrome of bolton would be notlob!"

Thank you for mentioning that particular quip on Slashdot, a place that is concerned about accuracy.

There is no "palindrome of Bolton"; you could create a new word called "Boltonnotlob" and it would then be a palindrome. But saying a word backwards does not make it a palindrome. That one has bothered me since childhood, because, as you mention, I have always considered the troupe to be clever. But in this case, it's not something I'm not getting -- it's a mistake that they made.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (3)

e9th (652576) | more than 3 years ago | (#35863656)

When forming a palindromic sentence, spacing and punctuation are normally ignored: A man, a plan, a canal, Panama!

So, if the Bolton police were to accuse me of tossing pitch towards their town, I might ask a witness, "I did not lob tar at Bolton, did I?"

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35864596)

The customer attempting to outwit the shopkeeper with his attempt at clever patois. And in the act, getting it wrong. Neither characters would be aware. However, in the precision of John Cleese and Graham Chapman it would be carefully planted.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (1)

cusco (717999) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861852)

Why would I want to be normal? That's boring, and no one remembers you after you're gone. I much prefer being referred to as, "Hey, remember that guy who married the hot Peruvian girl, had those ugly hairless dogs, and learned to paraglide when he was 50?" rather than, "Remember, that guy who, umm, never mind." Normalcy is highly overrated.

(FWIW, we don't think they're ugly, just most other people do.)

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (2)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862388)

Why would I want to be normal? That's boring, and no one remembers you after you're gone. I much prefer being referred to as, "Hey, remember that guy who married the hot Peruvian girl, had those ugly hairless dogs, and learned to paraglide when he was 50?" rather than, "Remember, that guy who, umm, never mind." Normalcy is highly overrated.

I don't particularly care how I'm referred to, but it is nice to know it's in the present tense.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (1)

tibit (1762298) | more than 3 years ago | (#35864714)

Kudos on the Peruvian girl, I guess? ;)

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (1)

cusco (717999) | more than 3 years ago | (#35887490)

Thanks, don't know how I managed that one (gorgeous, AND she can cook better than a chef). Just lucky, I guess. The paragliding thing is going to be this summer, before I'm too old to learn to do it well.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (1)

tibit (1762298) | more than 3 years ago | (#35888070)

Good luck! I can't beat paragliding, but me and the wife are trying to "adopt" an undergrad couple for at least a weekend, and perhaps for the summer if that'd go well. What better way to feel young than to surround yourself with people younger than you are ;), never mind that they genuinely made us curious and wanting to get to know them better. We'll see. We're not that much older, just a decade.

Re:OK, if you want to be normal... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35866044)

Shut up, or I shall say "ni" to you again.

thanks slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861270)

Now I know what I will be watching over the weekend. I was dreading this weekend with the holiday, family, and all that entails. But some Monty Python will make it pass much easier.

When my interview for a job involved Monty Python (4, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861294)

When my interview for a job involved Monty Python humour I should have known it was doomed...

It's fun to joke and reminisce great Monty Python skits and jokes, but when your supervisor's mind isn't on it should be a warning. The job lasted only two weeks - he was a complete flake, changing mind on specs and ideas almost daily and a 200% turnover before the upper management decided the problem wasn't the worker bees, but their manager. Some solace that was.

Still love MP, but work is work and when someone wants to just joke around be wary - your probably missing something important and the jokes may be a cover-up.

Re:When my interview for a job involved Monty Pyth (2)

moco (222985) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861650)

I consider humour to be an important part of management, negotiations, sales and everything that involves other people. Of course as everything it needs to be taken in healthy doses.
It brings people closer much faster and that is very important when you want to know more about the person in less time, therefore an excellent tool to use in interviews.

Re:When my interview for a job involved Monty Pyth (2)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861846)

Humor in a leadership position can be very powerful, but inappropriately applied it can be devastating. Like you said, its knowing when to apply it and when not to that makes all the difference.

Re:When my interview for a job involved Monty Pyth (1)

fremsley471 (792813) | more than 3 years ago | (#35865306)

... and it makes taking 1/3 of your life away little more bearable.

Re:When my interview for a job involved Monty Pyth (1)

umghhh (965931) | more than 3 years ago | (#35866300)

as long as humans do the job (I mean really any) there will be stress and if there is one thing that combats stress it is humour - of course you should know where to stop but quite frankly Ihave worked with dumb asses for more than 20years now and if they do not get an odd joke they do not get what is said to them anyway. This said it requires a certain dose of professionalism and social training to manage other people.

Re:When my interview for a job involved Monty Pyth (2)

PPH (736903) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861916)

When my interview for a job involved Monty Python humour I should have known it was doomed...

Didn't like the boss singing the lumberjack song, eh?

Re:When my interview for a job involved Monty Pyth (1)

tomhuxley (951364) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862542)

Maybe he should have switched to lion taming.

Re:When my interview for a job involved Monty Pyth (1)

definate (876684) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862042)

changing mind on specs and ideas almost daily

He was taking the "and now for something completely different" approach.

Or perhaps he was just practising for the "upper class twit of the year" contest?

Re:When my interview for a job involved Monty Pyth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35862240)

So did you fart in his general direction?

Re:When my interview for a job involved Monty Pyth (1)

noims (23711) | more than 3 years ago | (#35865662)

I find your lack of faith... disturbing.

Noims.

tyrannical tuesday; who to hate first, worst (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861318)

queers? that's getting old. other religions? that almost always works. rich people, poor people, ungays? we'll see who wants to cause us the most trouble tomorrow. at least we still have our choices, & our right to remain silent.

real history is overtaking us? is the future going to (already) suffer from waiting for us, to get our history right, & move on?

Missing Options (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861436)

Building a datacenter on a swamp.

Re:Missing Options (2)

nalidog (1682910) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861548)

One that doesn't burn down, fall over, then fall into the swamp

Re:Missing Options (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861694)

But the daughter of the data center manager has . . . "huge tracks of land . . ."

That's "tracts". (1)

XanC (644172) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861720)

n/t

Re:Missing Options (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35862056)

But the daughter of the data center manager has . . . "huge tracks of land . . ."

Shouldn't that be "huge racks of NAND"?

Re:Missing Options (1)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 3 years ago | (#35864264)

The word is "tracts [thefreedictionary.com] "

Re:Missing Options (1)

jimmydevice (699057) | more than 3 years ago | (#35865638)

Good morning Mr. Hilter.

Re:Missing Options (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 3 years ago | (#35868100)

You've got the wrong map. You want the Ilfracombe and Barnstaple section.

Re:Missing Options (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35871444)

More like huge racks of LAN. Eh? Eh?

He! Internetz!!1(eleven) (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861512)

I made a MP reference! Now you HAVE to talk about my blog posting that,apart from some lame puns, is just lacking of anything worthwhile, new or insightful.

But the title made it go to /. so it has to be good? RIGHT?

Re:He! Internetz!!1(eleven) (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 3 years ago | (#35863482)

That was the most beautiful way of saying "Geekus eunt domus!" I've ever read.

Re:He! Internetz!!1(eleven) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35865586)

"The geek they go the house"?

It's (4, Insightful)

donotlizard (1260586) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861528)

a stretch. I'm sure TFA's author has run out of ideas. Next week he may compare computing to The Simpsons. Doh!

Re:It's (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35863538)

I don't think it was meant to be definitive. It's just a model.

Re:It's (1)

cowboy76Spain (815442) | more than 3 years ago | (#35865954)

It didn't even include two of the sketches more appropiate to CS:

The one were a medieval monk receives formation about "how-to-use" a book.

The part of "Holy Grail" where they RTFM for the grenade, about how to be precise in your writing.

.

Re:It's (1)

stonemirror (885079) | more than 3 years ago | (#35867528)

"The one were a medieval monk receives formation about "how-to-use" a book." Except that one's not a Monty Python sketch. The clip at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHX-SjgQvQ [youtube.com] is from a Norwegian show, "Øystein og jeg".

How about the Bible, then? (1)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 3 years ago | (#35866438)

Matthew 5:37, "But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."

It's from the sermon on the mount, no less, so it's, you know, from the big JC himself.

If that's not an endorsement of binary code, I don't know what is :p

A: Nothing (4, Insightful)

swanzilla (1458281) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861612)

However, a post containing both "Monty Python" and "Computing" very well may make the front page on ./.

Re:A: Nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35862024)

I agree. I wonder if the very same article, but with excerpts from The Brothers Karamazov or The Decameron instead of Monty Python, would have made it.

Easy Answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861674)

Nothing

WhatMeWorry?

Luk Design (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861758)

Muito boa esta materia!! http://www.lukdesign.com.br/

Re:Luk Design (1)

Thing 1 (178996) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862944)

Muito boa esta materia!! http://www.lukdesign.com.br/ [lukdesign.com.br]

Voce nao e muito sperto, escrevendo issu aqui, a onde esta muito programadores que podem causa muito problemas para sua cliente.

David "Lefty" Schlesinger (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35861766)

. . . soinds fat.

The difference between ... (1)

PPH (736903) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861870)

... an argument and abuse is often less than the machine's floating point precision.

Bible codeish (4, Insightful)

paiute (550198) | more than 3 years ago | (#35861886)

As much as I like Monty Python, their body of work is large enough that you can find support for any idea, ideology, hypothesis, etc. buried therein. It is like the people who comb the Bible for its prediction of 9/11 events.

Re:Bible codeish (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35862026)

As much as I like Monty Python, their body of work is large enough that you can find support for any idea, ideology, hypothesis, etc. buried therein. It is like the people who comb the Bible for its prediction of 9/11 events.

That's interesting, considering Flying Circus consisted of 45 30 minute episodes (22.5 hours) and 3 significant feature films (Holy Grail, Life of Brian, The Meaning of Life) for a total of perhaps 29 hours total. Two other films (And Now for Something Completely Different, Live At The Hollywood Bowl).) consisted of takes or skits taken from the Flying Circus series, so nothing new there.

Re:Bible codeish (1)

Dynedain (141758) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862984)

But much of the humor in Monty Python is focused around universal absurdity. That is, inherently absurd situations, that are general enough that most of their viewers can relate and see the humor.

Much like Dilbert, it's funny to the masses because almost everyone can find a similar situation in their personal experience. I'm certain this connection could have been made with Healthcare, Real Estate, or nearly any other professional industry. It's not limited to IT.

Re:Bible codeish (1)

niktemadur (793971) | more than 3 years ago | (#35863726)

You're forgetting the albums: "Previous Record", "Another Record", "Matching Tie, Handkerchief" and "Contractual Obligation". In fact, it was thru album skits played on rock radio that many USA audiences had their first taste of the Python.
Then there's peripheral material like "Four Yorkshiremen", "The Complete And Utter History Of Britain", "Looks Like Another Brown Trouser Job" and of course "Fawlty Towers" among many others, I'd even include "A Fish Called Wanda" in there.

Re:Bible codeish (1)

wrencherd (865833) | more than 3 years ago | (#35863204)

My personal theory goes as follows . . . it's my theory that belongs to me and it begins now––

As much as I like Monty Python, their body of work is large enough that you can find support for any idea, ideology, hypothesis, etc. buried therein.

Oops.

Dead Parrot (1)

fermion (181285) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862162)

this skit obviously encapsulates all technical support situations.

Budgets (2)

bakes (87194) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862200)

Discussions about our IT budget is like listening to the four Yorkshiremen.

'We yoosed to 'ave a server that was a shoebox in middle o' road'
"Cardboard box?"
"Aye"
"Yoo were looky! We ran a file server for three moonths on a paper bag in a septic tank"

Re:Budgets (3, Interesting)

tomhuxley (951364) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862604)

Interestingly, the Four Yorkshiremen was actually recycled from "At Last the 1948 Show" (also starring Graham Chapman and John Cleese): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eDaSvRO9xA [youtube.com]

For a minute there.... (1)

knight24k (1115643) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862286)

Anytime I hear Monty Python and computing used in the same sentence I think of this....

LiveVault [youtube.com]

Re:For a minute there.... (2)

PPH (736903) | more than 3 years ago | (#35863050)

Cleese appeared in a number of corporate training as well as advertising films. Hey, if you've got to watch something to check off the obligatory quarterly training box, it may as well be something funny.

Is anyone else tired of Monty Python? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35862596)

I remember enjoying Monty Python in junior high. In high school, I began to find it a little nerdy and overplayed. At CMU, I discovered how nerdy and overplayed it could possibly be (and this is coming from a CS major!), as the skits were acted out loudly in the computer clusters every night. That was almost 20 years ago, and I'm still hearing references to the same skits.

Couldn't we move ahead ten years to Caddyshack or something?

Some things (3, Interesting)

p51d007 (656414) | more than 3 years ago | (#35862786)

Just never go out of style....like Blazing Saddles...the uncut version, not what they show on tv ;)

Re:Is anyone else tired of Monty Python? (1)

niktemadur (793971) | more than 3 years ago | (#35863858)

Couldn't we move ahead ten years to Caddyshack or something? ...is the WRONG answer! There are, however, some lovely consolation prizes waiting for you backstage, thank you for playing.
For our viewers at home, the correct answer was any of the following: SCTV, Kids In The Hall, Mr Show, The Whitest Kids U Know.

Re:Is anyone else tired of Monty Python? (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#35865016)

I remember enjoying Monty Python in junior high. In high school, I began to find it a little nerdy and overplayed. At CMU, I discovered how nerdy and overplayed it could possibly be (and this is coming from a CS major!), as the skits were acted out loudly in the computer clusters every night. That was almost 20 years ago, and I'm still hearing references to the same skits.

Couldn't we move ahead ten years to Caddyshack or something?

Can you imagine someone in a room filled with CS majors loudly proclaiming "Hey everybody, we're all gonna get laid!" ? Ludicrous.

Re:Is anyone else tired of Monty Python? (1)

An ominous Cow art (320322) | more than 3 years ago | (#35871698)

I've said "Be the code... Be the code..." while programming. (I'm 90% sure "Be the ball" was from Caddyshack)

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What sad times are these... (1)

merc (115854) | more than 3 years ago | (#35863534)

when passing ruffians can say "Ni" at will to old ladies.

There is a pestilence upon this land.

Even those who arrange, design and sell software are at a considerable economic stress in this period of history.

None shall pass... (2)

merc (115854) | more than 3 years ago | (#35863540)

by value.

Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping! (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 3 years ago | (#35863958)

see subject and stop your silly ICMP filtering.

Ghost of Graham Chapman (1)

naota-kun (705771) | more than 3 years ago | (#35865032)

Every time I see an article that tries to tie MP to some industry, philosophy, or miscellaneous tangent, all I have to say is: "Stop that, It's silly!"

Not very inspiring.. (2)

thaig (415462) | more than 3 years ago | (#35865314)

The lesson about Symbian and Nokia is one that one could have learned about UNIX when MS brought NT. And it would be true enough but UNIX sort of didn't die like it was told to exactly but spawned a bastard child which grew up to be stronger.

Life is full of near misses and one doen't know how near they are until you have strained every nerve trying. Even then you never know what could have happened if you had been just a little bit luckier or smarter or, indeed, slower or dumber.

There is so much w*****g about the Symbian UI but it's a good OS and does a lot of stuff that, e.g., Windows Phone cannot do now but makes up for with much more expensive hardware. What's crapulent is the organisation which wants everything (masses of models at different price points with exceedingly complex features in the OS to try and get around the deficiencies in the hardware, backwards compatibility with all the mistakes of the past etc) and ends up with nothing.

If you haven't learned that it's the people that matter most then you are missing the point.

Sentence Structure (1)

Fussen (753791) | more than 3 years ago | (#35865378)

For some reason I found this article quite difficult to read, almost to the point of loosing the message. Odd breaks? I don't know..

score plus ten for the article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35866028)

- off topic, real conversation between techie and secretary --

secretary: how do I do ...
techie: (sitting five feet away and not looking up from his screen), "well, look at the screen"

Computing or life in general? (1)

Dabido (802599) | more than 3 years ago | (#35866480)

All of those Python skits can be used for making commentaries about life in general. They can be used, not just for computing, but for other things (like engineering projects ... or even what happens in government). Nothing particularly singles this out for it to be teaching us about 'computing' as much as simply being truths about life in general.

My Hovercraft is Full of Eels (1)

lobiusmoop (305328) | more than 3 years ago | (#35867716)

For me the quintessential MP sketch is Dirty Hungarian Phrasebook [youtube.com] , which says a lot about the field of speech recognition and natural language translation at the moment.

Down The Rabbit Hole (1)

jman.org (953199) | more than 3 years ago | (#35867732)

In a possible nod to Deacon Dodgson, Mr. Cleese, when asked on the Dick Cavett show about how Monty Python came up with their sketches, said:

"We take an illogical concept, and follow it through to its logical conclusion."

Sage advice. Any good programmer (at least ones that have to deal with UI's) learns to imagine what some random joe might do to his code.
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