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Apple Logging Locations of All iPhone Users

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the are-you-scared-yet dept.

Iphone 591

An anonymous reader writes "The Guardian reports that researchers have found a hidden file on all iPhones, iPads and any computers to which they synchronize, logging timestamped latitude and longitude coordinates of the user since June 2010. A tool is available on their website to check on your own."

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ummm (4, Funny)

NEDHead (1651195) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880186)

Surprise!

Re:ummm (5, Funny)

EraserMouseMan (847479) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880292)

Don't worry. Steve's just looking out for your user experience. If you really understood what this was about you'd be amazed at how Steve is just doing this so he can wow you and revolutionize your life. Now put the ear buds back in please.

Re:ummm (2)

drb226 (1938360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880570)

Big Brother Steve is watching (out for?) you.

Re:ummm (4, Funny)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880686)

Now put the ear buds back in please.

and push them in until they touch each other...

Re:ummm (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880456)

Surprise buttsex is more like it.

Re:ummm (1, Insightful)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880640)

1) no evidence location is tracked when you turn off location services (unlikely)
2) no evidence the file is leaving your phone (or its encrypted backups on your pc), you need to jailbreak the physical device it to obtain it
3) you could get the same kind of information by looking at geotagged pictures people upload absolutely everywhere.

The headline gives the impression the phone is phoning home this info to Apple, this is NOT stated in the article. My impression is that it is a cache file which they fail to clean.

Gotta love it... (-1, Troll)

xmarkd400x (1120317) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880196)

"iPhone tracking all movements"

"Here's a convenient link to upload this data to a public website"

Re:Gotta love it... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880248)

Look again. There is no link to upload anything only a link to download the application.

Re:Gotta love it... (1)

NevarMore (248971) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880404)

Which has a handy link to get the source and see what it does to be sure that its not doing anything fishy.

Re:Gotta love it... (2)

xmarkd400x (1120317) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880436)

RTFA? Why would I do that....

From the FAQ:

Does this application share the information with anyone?

No. All the data stays on your machine. The code behind it has been open-sourced so you can inspect the code and compile it yourself if you’re a developer.

negative points for me =/

I wonder which government (0, Troll)

afidel (530433) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880212)

I wonder which government asked them to do that, oh yeah ALL of them...

Re:I wonder which government (4, Insightful)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880244)

Do you really need to invoke a government conspiracy? This is Apple we're talking about.

Re:I wonder which government (1)

EraserMouseMan (847479) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880342)

What's your point?

Re:I wonder which government (1)

cpscotti (1032676) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880458)

Which other IT big asked them to do that?
Google? Microsoft? Oracle? (I know Oracle is quite off but they are soo.. sooo...)

Re:I wonder which government (2)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880564)

you kidding? Apple labels this a feature! Do you not remember that mobile me thing which tracks location? Tracking location on a cellphone is pretty trivial anyway, since you're continually connecting to cell towers it's not hard to place where you are/where you are going, generally. I believe there was a study of this from some politician in germany recently.

LOL What Now MAC-FAGS (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880220)

I thought your precious walled garden was keeping you safe, faggots.

Turns out that your every move is being tracked by the guy who fucks you in the ass...

Except it's not (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880582)

I thought your precious walled garden was keeping you safe, faggots.

Turns out that your every move is being tracked by the guy who fucks you in the ass...

Well, there's just *one little flaw in your statement. The data is never sent to Apple.

I guess Steve Jobs is just so insanely great that he is able to collect the data by astral projection or something.

*Two flaws actually - many owners and users of Apple products are heterosexual.

Much worse than Google's WiFi tracking (5, Insightful)

schwit1 (797399) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880236)

Tracking people's whereabouts is truly evil. Wait until the divorce lawyers start subpoena them for location data to help their clients.

Evil? Really? (2, Insightful)

unassimilatible (225662) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880330)

Evil? Then what word do we we use for the Einsatzgruppen and serial killers?

Let's put away the hyperbole before the language no longer means anything, K?

Re:Evil? Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880488)

The same word.

Re:Evil? Really? (4, Insightful)

MacGyver2210 (1053110) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880584)

There are varying degrees of many things, of which many subsets can be constructed.

Apple is a Tier-2 evil. They are more evil than the neighborhood bully, but they are less evil than...say, Hitler.

Just like evil, there are subsets of happy.

Think about "I just got an 'attaboy' from my boss" happy versus "I just got with this super-hot girl I've been into for a long time" happy.

Re:Evil? Really? (2)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880644)

Agreed. Stop the hyperbole. Plain old bole would be more than enough here . . .

Re:Much worse than Google's WiFi tracking (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880352)

This is pretty sickening... Are you actually implying that using the location data to expose a cheating spouse is evil? The person doing the cheating is the only one doing evil in that case.

Re:Much worse than Google's WiFi tracking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880408)

Everyone has a right to cheat. Well secretly. I wish I got mod points to mod you up.

Re:Much worse than Google's WiFi tracking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880518)

Except when party in the divorce borrows the spouse's phone and takes it on a tour of a red light district, then a hotel for an hour. Then in court, "Well it's your phone isn't it?" Obviously you picked up a hooker and went to a hotel.

Re:Much worse than Google's WiFi tracking (1)

_0xd0ad (1974778) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880530)

The ends don't justify the means.

Re:Much worse than Google's WiFi tracking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880400)

No need. This doesn't go to Apple servers, but is in the iPhone's DB and is backed up to the computer it syncs with. If a spouse has access to the computer the iPhone syncs with, then they have this data. The link is to a handy tool that'll visualize the iPhone user's movements.

Re:Much worse than Google's WiFi tracking (1)

whiteboy86 (1930018) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880526)

Good news for Google anyway, it is within the "Application Data/Apple .." folder on Windows, Chrome should access it easily.

/s

Can we start using examples other than Divorce? (4, Interesting)

hellfire (86129) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880540)

Okay I'm all for explaining why this is bad, but why the fuck do we insist as a group using the example of a private eye tracking down a cheating spouse for the purpose of divorce as a reason to take privacy concerns seriously? The average citizen is going to be like "Oh well I don't have to worry about that, I have nothing to hide from my spouse!" even if they are lying to themselves. The political and social leadership will be like "well then don't cheat and you'll be fine!"

WORST... EXAMPLE...EVAR...

Here's some better examples for this specific situation:
1) A burglar determining a pattern when you aren't home so they can rob your house.
2) A stalker determining the best place to attack you
3) Someone who doesn't like you smearing your character publicly simply because your phone walked by a strip club (he must have gone in, he's a sinner!!!), even though 2 blocks away is the hospice you volunteer once a week at.

Let's try to come up with better examples that make people actually care please?

Re:Much worse than Google's WiFi tracking (1)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880588)

The moral is: Turn off your iPhone before entering the Champagne Room!

iPhone 5 (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880238)

I get it! This way they can hunt down the iPhone 5 that finds its way into the wild...

Mac fanboys (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880254)

Can't wait to see how the fanboys rationalize this one.

Re:Mac fanboys (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880368)

I, for one, have nothing to hide and find this data highly interesting and potentially useful.

Re:Mac fanboys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880634)

Props to you sir. There is nothing like a true honest fan.

Wanna be my new pet fanboy?

Re:Mac fanboys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880600)

Well since an iPad doesn't have a GPS I don't see how it is logging your coordinates. And since not all models have a cell chip, then best guess would be based on WiFi net accessed. So, story sounds bogus.

What the FUCK, Apple? (2, Insightful)

CelticWhisper (601755) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880270)

What good reason could they have for pulling something like this? I know, I know, I'm not thinking creatively and/or cynically enough. Give the caffeine an hour or so.

This is why I'm quite happy with my N900. No carrier lockability, no Big Brother bullshit, and it's a better phone to boot. As the longtime owner of two Power Macs and a 4G iPod (you know, the kind that can run RockBox, that alternative firmware that you guys hate so much) I feel compelled to tell you, Apple, to get bent.

Re:What the FUCK, Apple? (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880314)

...no Big Brother bullshit...

Uh huh...

Re:What the FUCK, Apple? (2, Insightful)

getNewNickName (980625) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880432)

Stop, breath, think. Turn off location services...

Re:What the FUCK, Apple? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880452)

Nokia has been logging cell ids since 1995.
Not as precise as GPS data, but as "evil".

Android is also doing it.

I guess they are all doing it.

And BTW:
Your provider is also logging your location.

So no news here at all.

Re:What the FUCK, Apple? (3, Insightful)

ThunderBird89 (1293256) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880460)

Likewise with my Nexus S. I know it tracks itself, because I have joined Latitude and keep my GPS turned on, but I can opt out of Latitude and disable the GPS, so it can't track itself. And at least I own that device, unlike the iStuff, which I apparently only lease from Apple...

Re:What the FUCK, Apple? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880692)

On any of these devices (iphone / nexus / etc) what makes you think the "disable GPS" actually disables the GPS?

How do you know it isn't like the "close door" button on an elevator?

All these devices have features that aren't there for the users and are there for law enforcement. You can't turn them off.

Who knows where the Eye of Steve falls in this range? The only way to be sure is a faraday cage for your phone, which probably won't help your reception (though you might not notice if you've got AT&T).

wow (1)

indecks (1208854) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880276)

I got no problem with that *turns off phone an hides*

Re:wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880332)

Make sure you remove the battery [cnet.com] , too. Oh, wait. Nevermind.

we're sooo fucked (2, Insightful)

Massacrifice (249974) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880294)

Still surprises me how everybody accepts that kind of cryptototalitarian shit while saying while saying "OMG SHINY APPS!!!". Next thing you know, the economy is down for good, the chinese take over, then nobody cant say crap while they get painfully raped up their sociopolitical collectives arses. Fascism? There's an app for that!

Re:we're sooo fucked (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880422)

Next thing you know, the economy is down for good, the chinese take over, then nobody cant say crap while they get painfully raped up their sociopolitical collectives arses.

And having an iPhone causes that, huh? Get over yourself, geek filth.

So my phone tracks itself, big deal (4, Insightful)

unassimilatible (225662) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880302)

So you're telling me if someone physically steals my phone or computer, and is able to break the passwords, they can see private info about me? NFW!

I assure you all that if someone were to do that, I'd have a lot more to worry about than my PC or phone giving up my travel habits.

Re:So my phone tracks itself, big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880396)

You got it all wrong, bucko. Now anyone who has apple in their pocket (or apple themselves) can track your whereabouts. And find you. Enemy of the state much?

Re:So my phone tracks itself, big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880438)

Also if you bring your phone to a service center.

Re:So my phone tracks itself, big deal (2)

RockoW (883785) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880482)

There is no need to know the password... files are not encrypted. If they got your iphone just jailbreak it or if they stole your pc just look through your files.

Re:So my phone tracks itself, big deal (4, Insightful)

SJ2000 (1128057) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880516)

Or if you're subject to Discovery [wikipedia.org] or a subpoena.

breaking news? (1)

apostrophesemicolon (816454) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880308)

how are they - scratch that, we - finding out about this just now? and do the iDevices still able to report back their location even when GPS is turned off? Curious.

Re:breaking news? (2)

FhnuZoag (875558) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880380)

Yes. It uses cell triangulation, so it's still tracking with GPS switched off. The researchers' website has a very informative FAQ. Also, as their app illustrates, with this data on the phone, *any* iphone or ipad app has access to this, not just Apple themselves. It's a privacy nightmare.

Re:breaking news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880574)

Their app works on a hacked phone which would have access to the full device. Another reason I'm glad I don't jailbreak.

Further, last time I checked anytime you leave your phone on, you are subject to location through tower triangulation. You buy a cell phone, you give up your right to privacy, some of us are just a little less paranoid about it than others.

Re:breaking news? (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880490)

Yeah, this is the part that bothers me too - did the techies "trust & ignore" Apple for an entire year believing that Apple was being faddish but that's all?

I'm definitely courting the trolls on this one, but for that "cheating spouse" angle, do they have the Accelerometer data too?

FTW!!!! (3, Interesting)

Cris CodeCruncher (2048180) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880360)

Why were the people who own these products not informed? (or why was the informing done within miles of legal jargon that is the user agreement?) I have a BIG problem with this as I believe that us Canadians still have some privacy laws left.

The data is on your phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880374)

The headline is misleading. Apple is not logging your locations, your phone is. It would make sense to cry Big Brother if/when there's proof that the phone is sending the log to an Apple server, not now.

Re:The data is on your phone (5, Insightful)

FhnuZoag (875558) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880426)

It's impossible to determine where this data has been sent. Any app has access to it. Access to this file itself is not logged. It could be sitting on the hard drives of any number of app producers.

Fascist shill of the gigacorporation! (2)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880462)

You fool! This is Slashdot. If we're not seeing the End Of Freedom lurking in every shadow then the terrorists have already won!!1!!2!!

Osama (2)

kayumi (763841) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880378)

You got it all wrong. The idea was to offer free iXXX to Osama & friends and then use the new iCatchYou app to finish them off. Now the cat's out of the bag and they have to go back to the drawing board.

Yeah. soo what? (1)

BigMac7400 (1915854) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880386)

What a shocking news.... How do you thing Find my iPhone service is working?

Apple is not logging. Your phone is logging. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880392)

The phone logs the data for some reason.
This is then backed up when the phone is backed up.
It is never sent to Apple.

Really.
I mean, there are millions of things on the iPhone that checks your position. It gets embedded in photos. It gets uploaded to somewhere whenever you start the App you use to order pizza or check phone-directory.

Also, if Apple wanted to find you they would just send a "find my iPhone" ping to the phone.

This is a local list saved to the phone only (and then backed up).

It would be nice to know why it is there, but it does not really worry or surprise me.

Simple Reason (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880412)

You know, amidst all the panic about "Oh noes! Apple knows where I'm at and will tell the government" it could just simply be that this tracking is part of the "Find My iPhone" feature. It kinda makes sense.

But please, carry on with the conspiracy theories. They are quite entertaining.

Security? (1)

Posting=!Working (197779) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880416)

Why did they make an app to just view this information? Why didn't they make one that deleted the information or replaced it with 0's? Wouldn't that have made it more secure?

Re:Security? (1)

xMrFishx (1956084) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880658)

That's like covering your eyes and pretending something doesn't exist. The phone will still make more location data and store it next time you sync. Also replacing data != secure.

This isn't a big deal (2, Funny)

bl8n8r (649187) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880418)

It's not like someone is going to break into your house to steal your iphone location logs. Besides, if my phone or ipad gets ripped-off, It may actually help to reveal where the thief's travels took him. Possibly implicating other theives. I think it's good that Apple is thinking ahead this way. Everyone can be an active participant in crime fighting.

Maybe this will even be enough of a deterrent that the 'other' handset manufacturers will adopt the same strategy for their devices. It could mean the end of technogadget theivery altogether. Also, this is a perfect example of an instance where Apple has pioneered another idea which will change the world to make it better, but they will never get the credit for it. Steve invented the Linux kernel you know... He and Chuck Norris.. it's all over the internet, go read it for yourself.

Re:This isn't a big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880556)

You almost had me with that one. Good job!

Re:This isn't a big deal (0)

MacGyver2210 (1053110) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880622)

You must be joking...

Since when is copying the nazi-esque stalking tactics of big brother 'pioneering' anything? They are invading your privacy, and you are so deluded by the cult of Mac that all you can say is "Good Job"?

This is why our country is no longer free, the politicians are all fucking corrupt, and corporations control everything. People like YOU are the reason.

Re:This isn't a big deal (1)

AtomicJake (795218) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880678)

He was joking. Just that the "irony" tags were subtle enough to get you trapped...

really? (1)

peter in mn (1549709) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880454)

Well, for a wifi-only ipad, it finds nothing. Has anyone confirmed this? It sounds dubious on the face of it -- why would a device with limited storage generate an infinitely-growing log file with no clear purpose? Is there some setting in Location Services that requests this log?

Re:really? (1)

FhnuZoag (875558) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880648)

It uses cell triangulation, so yeah, it would make sense that it wouldn't log for devices without cellular access.

Re:really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880670)

Yeah, because GPS logs really hog GBs of space?

Find Your iPhone (2, Insightful)

blamanj (253811) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880464)

Apple has a service that allows you to find a lost or stolen iPhone. Presumably, the phone logs its position so it can upload it when asked. Nothing scary here, though the fact this data is available means people will try and extract it. My guess is that the next iOS release will wipe this data every seven days or so.

Re:Find Your iPhone (1)

AtomicJake (795218) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880690)

My guess is that the next iOS release will wipe this data every seven days or so.

And this would be OK, then?

Do I have this right? (1)

GigG (887839) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880466)

A record of the places my phone has been is kept on my phone or on the back-up on my computer. Since I assume I know where I have been I don't see a problem with it. There is no evidence that this data is being sent to Apple or anyone else.

Re:Do I have this right? (2)

Microlith (54737) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880524)

If it is being collected you can guarantee it is being sent, how and when is another question entirely. Never mind the privacy implications with respect to other people that may have access to your PC, or law enforcement suddenly knowing everywhere you've been over the last indefinite period.

But of course, no one has any rights before American Corporations.

Re:Do I have this right? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880608)

Uh, see comment just above yours re phone finding "service" AND extraction idea.

Re:Do I have this right? (5, Informative)

drb226 (1938360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880654)

There is no evidence that this data is being sent to Apple or anyone else.

As the article illustrates, any app you install has easy access to this data.

Re:Do I have this right? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880674)

There is no evidence that this data is being sent to Apple or anyone else.

Just like there's no evidence that any number of apps have accessed and uploaded this data.

Others (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880468)

And this is different from Android and possibly Blackberries in what way...? Besides, this article is quite a bit late to the party (about a years worth): http://www.intomobile.com/2010/07/19/apple-responds-to-government-inquiries-about-iphone-location-tracking/

Re:Others (2)

slim (1652) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880576)

There's a big difference between telling a web site, or an app, where you are at this moment -- which is what the article you link to is about, and what Android/Blackberry do -- and keeping a log of everywhere you've ever been, without telling you.

That should be really easy!! (3, Funny)

Hohlraum (135212) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880492)

They are either at the Apple Store, North Face or Star Bucks. Done.

Re:That should be really easy!! (1)

Antisyzygy (1495469) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880544)

Yes, and they are never at work or charity events.

Re:That should be really easy!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880578)

Don't forget the bath house.

Phone is tracking, Apple is not. (5, Informative)

chaim79 (898507) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880522)

Though it is a very fine distinction, Apple isn't receiving any of this information, it's simply being stored.

From the Article

Is Apple storing this information elsewhere?

There’s no evidence that it’s being transmitted beyond your device and any machines you sync it with.

As bad as some may play it, without Apple receiving this information it's simply information that is stored, not "Big Brother"/Apple monitoring your every move.

Re:Phone is tracking, Apple is not. (3, Insightful)

FhnuZoag (875558) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880554)

Why would you know if Apple is receiving this information or not? Access to this file is not tracked.

Re:Phone is tracking, Apple is not. (1)

burris (122191) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880614)

I get it, it's your phone when Apple is using it to track you, but it's Apple's phone when it comes to deciding what code gets to run on it.

The data is crap (3, Interesting)

2Y9D57 (988210) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880528)

I've checked the data on my iPhone and it's crap. Zero hits on my apartment, zero hits on my office. Hundreds of hits on places I've never visited. During a trip to the UK, I seem to have visited locations arranged on a one-kilometre grid covering most of Yorkshire and Lincolnshire -- which is odd, because I just went to my sister's house. Good luck using that for anything worhwhile.

Re:The data is crap (1)

KidPix (1512501) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880566)

"To make it less useful for snoops, the spatial and temporal accuracy of the data has been artificially reduced."

Re:The data is crap (1)

FhnuZoag (875558) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880568)

As TFA says, the data displayed on by the app is artificially degraded so that the app itself cannot be used as a snopping tool. The raw data stored is far more precise.

But Not Logging Location Very Well (1)

Wook Man (79498) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880534)

I ran the app against my phone. It has locations that I would have only gone to on a recent driving trip. But it doesn't include the whole trip, and it includes locations that I have never been too.

So yeah, it is tracking locations, but is not very accurate. I'm not even sure it is doing it via GPS. It might be doing it via the towers, and the locations are where the base stations are for the towers. Maybe.

Karma (3, Interesting)

Antisyzygy (1495469) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880536)

Apple fanbois couldn't stop bashing Google's wifi tracking, meanwhile saying Apple's ethics are superior. I for one can't wait until lawyers get a hold of this. Karmic retribution.

Yet the post below... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880550)

...Is a Bill Gates Borg for a post about not wanting to make tablets yet.

Perhaps /. should have updated the icons a little bit with the redesign.

Locate my iOS Device (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880558)

Before you all go jumping to conclusions did anyone ever think that this information exists as part of the Locate My iPhone service that Apple provides? I just checked and I don't have the file on my iPad but I do for my iPhone. I don't have the locate service enabled for my iPad. I do for my iPhone.

gps coords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880562)

Frankly I haven't really been anywhere particularly damning in the last couple of years. If Apple want's to fill up their servers with my home location (easily found via credit reports and other means) and where I work (again, too many ways to find out) then have at it.

Rescue (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880598)

c'mon iSheep, defend your shepherd !

Jailbreak? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880628)

Is there a Jailbreak version, which prohibits this?
Until now, I wasn't jailbreaking my iPhone (no need, I would never buy apps and don't pirate either). But this would be a fully legitimate use case in my eyes.

Steve Jobs - Police State Legacy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880632)

TIA - Total Information Awareness - the agenda of the police state

Apple - now a proven surveillance society agent, COVERTly (now openly) black boxing the American public from the inside out.

Google - long time surveillance society organization, openly black boxing the American public from the outside in.

http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-probe-of-apple-google-hiring-collusion-gains-steam-2010-4
http://gigaom.com/2010/09/24/doj-settles-with-apple-adobe-google-over-hiring-collusion-charges/

AND they're in League with each other, not just with Lucifer.

Somebody dial up Yakov Smirnoff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35880638)

In Soviet Russia... phone track you!

Michigan police (1)

vawwyakr (1992390) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880652)

Seems interesting when you consider this along with the police story. They could yank this file and start tracing your every move.

Interesting Law enforcement use (1)

Nukenbar (215420) | more than 3 years ago | (#35880684)

Currently, law enforcement can track cell phones historically via cell site information. This can be useful in breaking an alibi defense, or loosely grouping a band of people together over time. This only problem with cell site information is the fact that cell site info is only recorded as the cell phone is being used. This new info has the potential to tell law enforcement where the phone, and likely the owner, was at times when the cell phone was not even in use.

As with all things cell phones, most states require a search warrant to use anything off of the phone.

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