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Ask Slashdot: Are You Streaming-Only For Home Entertainment?

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the rely-on-the-kindness-of-the-network dept.

Television 697

hinesbrad writes "I'm getting really tired of paying ridiculous fees to my cable company just to have a DVR and high speed internet access. A neighbor of mine bought a cheapo Dell computer with an HDMI output. Apparently he streams all of his news live from respective websites, and also watches many of the shows on NBC and Comedy central using this method. He's effectively turned his PC into a DVR and gotten rid of his cable subscription fee. I wonder, how many people have completely gotten rid of their cable/satellite subscription and have now instead moved to a Hulu/Netflix/Content producer website streaming solution instead?" If you've done this, what does your approach include? If you'd like to, what are the bottlenecks?

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For me, and many of my fellow college students.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901518)

It's cheaper to just pay for cable internet, and then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu. I like how many channels offer online streaming for their shows, but producer websites seem to be slower and more congested -- generally not worth

Re:For me, and many of my fellow college students. (1)

biryokumaru (822262) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901762)

We've been purely Netflix since before they had streaming. I've never been upset on missing out on "Jersey Shore" and the like. I can't imagine wasting money on a television subscription now. Netflix is great for my 2 year old, who loves Backyardigans, Arthur, Busytown, Blues Clues, Barney, Go Diego Go, as well as any number of movies. Watching any episode he feels like watching of any show any time without those brain-washing commercials is great. Plus, we have total control of his media consumption, and can limit or provide as we see appropriate. The only thing missing is that the breadth of shows, while already larger than what I imagine you'd have available from a television network, doesn't include eccentricities such as Bill Nye, Magic School Bus or Imagination Movers. Of course, that's what Netflix DVDs are for...

Nether kinda (4, Interesting)

Anrego (830717) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901548)

I'm Canadian, so the Hulu/Netflix/etc thing doesn't quite work out so well.

I did ditch the cable a while ago though.

News has gotten progressively more useless, to the point where it actually annoys me to watch it, and I'm not a big fan of sports... which is where cable seems to win. The occasional time I want to see a game, I'll go to a friends house (which is usually more fun anyway).

I just buy the DVD box sets of shows I like .. and download if they haven't been released yet (I know this is technically stealing .. but I can live with it). I prefer watching stuff this way anyhow.

I can't even remember the last time I heard about something being on TV and thought "damn, if only I had cable".

Re:Nether kinda (2)

bolverk (31238) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901708)

XBMC with the Canada on Demand plugin works extremely well for TV in Canada. It's a very effective replacement for Hulu. [] Netflix exists in Canada and is starting to get decent.

Re:Nether kinda (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901810)

My friends in Montreal claim that Netflix has a 2 week turnaround for them - what do you define as decent?

Re:Nether kinda (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901940)

... (I know this is technically stealing .. but I can live with it)...".

Technically it's copyright infringement, and there's many of us who see nothing wrong with it.

No cable. Just Roku and my laptop (4, Insightful)

floop (11798) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901550)

I will never pay for cable or dish or watch broadcast tv again. Roku [] streams Netflix, Hulu, even Aljazeera and Democracy Now to my TV. Device only cost $60. You don't need a DVR when you're watching on demand. I also watch tv and movies on my laptop, which enables me to sit outside and drink and smoke. Roku has tons of channels and you can even create your own.

Re:No cable. Just Roku and my laptop (1)

the_fat_kid (1094399) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901670)

I love my Roku. It has replaced cable tv and even most bit torrent in my house

Re:No cable. Just Roku and my laptop (1)

man_of_mr_e (217855) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901744)

If you don't mind waiting a week for content, and then only having a subset of available content available.. sure. I find Hulu and Netflix only have about 20% of the content I like to watch. Meanwhile, it's filled with crap i don't like.

You don't get the variety of, say, the discovery channel and History channel via those services because the content is so varied and doesn't lend itself well to a subscription based episodic service. Of course, I consider the cost of cable to be relatively cheap compared to the cost of fast internet in most places.

Re:No cable. Just Roku and my laptop (4, Insightful)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901908)

I used to love Discovery and the History channel. Then it became all Deadliest Catch/Ice Road Truckers/Axe Men with a side of batshit conspiracy. It's been many years since I subscribed to cable TV.

Re:No cable. Just Roku and my laptop (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901766)

Aljazeera is a selling point????

Re:No cable. Just Roku and my laptop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901924)

Al Jazeera English is probably better than any US-based news network. They at least try to dig more deeply into stories, where US-based news is primarily composed of sound bites.

Try it before you pan it.

Re:No cable. Just Roku and my laptop (4, Interesting)

thetartanavenger (1052920) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901824)

I use "free" streaming virtually all of the time where I am, but as odd as this may sound, I still pay for my content. Over here in the uk we have no hulu, we have no netflix, none of the streams coming from the other legitimate sites, all we have is iPlayer, which is a bit of a joke as far as most of its content is concerned. But that's never stopped me, plenty of less legitimate sites out there to give us what we should already have.

However, I don't think the content should be free, it should be available, how it is now illegally, for a reasonable fee (or at least ad supported). But no-one wants my money.. Here's the clincher though, in this country, if we watch anything that is being broadcast on a tv channel at the same time we have to pay a license fee to the government. Technically I don't need to pay it, but I do because it directly supports british content being created. Also, I have an internet connection, which we're pretty much forced to bundle with cable tv and a phone line. So, whilst I use the internet solely for my entertainment, I still indirectly pay what I consider reasonable(ish) for what I'm getting. It's kind of a guilt and responsibility thing.

Now, if the companies pulled their heads out of their asses and provided me with the streaming methods that are clearly feasible, preferably for a reasonable price, then they could drop out the middle men, I would drop the rest and they would get all the cash. But they're morons who would rather whine that they don't have my money rather than actually allow me to give them it. Go figure..

Re:No cable. Just Roku and my laptop (1)

Stormthirst (66538) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901932)

Technically you DO need a TV license [] if you watching content in the UK - even if it's on a computer

Who watches TV anymore? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901564)

When you can watch what you want on demand on the web?

Sports (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901570)

If you don't watch sports you're fine. If you do then unfortunately ditching cable just isn't a good option yet.

Re:Sports (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901652)

I've watched streaming sports on Xbox Live's ESPN channel. I'm not a huge sports fan, but it's enough for me. If you're already an Xbox Live Gold member, there's no additional cost involved.

Re:Sports (1)

laxguy (1179231) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901666)

It's actually relatively easy to find live streams of sports games on the net.

Re:Sports (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901668)

If you don't watch sports you're fine. If you do then unfortunately ditching cable just isn't a good option yet.

Get an antenna then you can watch local sports in HD for free.

Cable is dead. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901572)

Already do. Cable television is a joke. They endlessly shove commercials down your throat after you already pay 100+/month for any reasonable selection of channels. I can buy Netflix for $7/month (with no commercials) and then I can couple that with Hulu (sure a two minute long commercial in the very beginning but that's it) which is free. I get everything I want and more without the useless 50 channel basic package. Fortunately ESPN finally hopped on the streaming train as well and now I get sport's programming on top of that. And if you don't happen to get sports because of a local blackout in your area, good ol' bunny ears now provide 1080 straight to my television provided I can get a signal.

Cable is done. Any cable company that actually wants to make money should be working hard to get their content providers to allow them to stream because the first one to do that (and do it well) will win the market.

No Cable TV. (1)

darkwing_bmf (178021) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901574)

I don't see why anyone needs cable. It's just entertainment. There are plenty of alternatives for entertainment including streaming Netlfix or playing video games. If you get an over the air TV signal you're sacrificing even less.

Re:No Cable TV. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901594)

There's always the 3D alternative of "outside".

Re:No Cable TV. (4, Funny)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901738)

Don't be ridiculous. The outside hasn't been able to support human life for generations.

Re:No Cable TV. (1)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901840)

There's always the 3D alternative of "outside".

You may be on to something. Howver, you need to put a roof over it, and walls to keep the bugs and stuff out, and install air conditioning. Then it becomes habitable!

myth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901580)

I use a MythTV box, no cable subscription, but netflix and hulu. But since Netflix streaming uses Silverlight and isn't supported on Linux, I get snail-mail DVDs from netflix, which I don't mind so much.

IT's also a spiffy media server. My entire DVD and CD collection is burned to it and available for playback anywhere in the house.

So in spite of a few drawbacks, it isn't overall a bad solution.

5 years and counting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901582)

I've been relying on solely the internet for my entertainment for five years now. It started with bit torrent and legal grey area streaming sites like tv-links that have since been shut down; but the legitimate options have gotten really good over time. Hulu is excellent as is netflix streamingl and between those two I hardly ever feel the urge to go to bit torrent. You can get most of what is good on hulu for free, but with their inexpensive subscription you get a lot more stuff, and even a movie selection that sometimes rivals netflix. I keep up with current shows like The Daily Show, House, Fringe, and Sons of Anarchy using only hulu, and I don't really have time for anything else or I'd rather play a videogame. The best part is that I am always watching something I choose, never flipping through all the channels wishing there was something good on. The best part is that it can only get better from here as hulu and netflix add more content and it is already good.

Trifect of Entertainment! (1)

lordofthechia (598872) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901586)

Between Netflix, Hulu (free), and Redbox all of our household entertainment needs are taken care of. With the savings we can pick up a season or two (or more if we buy used) of our favorite shows.

Recently picked up an HD Homerunner box and things are great! Awesome to watch shows on *your* schedule

Party over, man! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901592)

Unfortunately, the party is going to end sooner rather than later. ISPs and data carriers are seeking to place monthly caps on net use, aimed squarely at streaming, and will charge extra fees for those going over the arbitrarily set limits.

Re:Party over, man! (2)

akvalentine (560139) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901720)

No kidding. I used to have unlimited bandwidth, but then upgraded for faster download speeds. Buried somewhere in the fine print it said that I now had a monthly cap, but unfortunately the person I talked to on the phone when I upgraded failed to mention that. My next cable/Internet bill was $460 (due to NetFlix and a recent subscription to CrashPlan). I called to complain and got it cut in half, but still....

Playstation and laptop. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901610)

Ditched cable and never looked back. Not much of a need for live news, but get them from the web sites.
Use netflix streamed to a PC or my PS3 for movies and older tv shows.
Hulu for newer stuff
Torrents fill in the gaps for whatever is not available through above methods.

caps (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901614)

Comcast's 250GB cap limits you to 4 hours of HD streaming a day for a 30 day month. Assuming you do NOTHING else with your internet

Re:caps (2)

atheos (192468) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901676)

AT&T Uverse is the same way. I'm seriously considering getting a T1 to bypass the Comcast/AT&T bullshit.

Re:caps (2)

cdrguru (88047) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901730)

A T1 link doesn't have the bandwidth required for HD streaming. At 1.5Mb/sec it is about half of the lower boundary.

With a box with a hard drive (Boxee?) you might be able to buffer enough that it wouldn't matter but I don't think anyone is thinking along the lines of handing connections that are too slow for real streaming right now.

Re:caps (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901706)

Comcast's 250GB cap limits you to 4 hours of HD streaming a day for a 30 day month. Assuming you do NOTHING else with your internet

If you have no other options for anything short of shite bandwidth, Comcast's Business-Class service has no caps, no throttling....but is anywhere from twice to three times as expensive.

Re:caps (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901750)

So you're saying comcast will get you one way or another. Since I can use a TiVo with the comcast HD services, I can use that much more easily than finding all the strange little shows in their respective streaming sites. Including the two bit operation that is local access from the library.

Re:caps (2)

earls (1367951) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901880)


Re:caps (1)

Fulcrum of Evil (560260) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901952)

internet streaming or DVR streaming? DVR streaming doesn't count towards the cap, and the, ahem, content I've gotten in HD is closer to 1.5G/hr

PS3 and Netflix (1)

bfoz (200416) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901620)

And Hulu Plus, but I don't use that much anymore. Netflix has everything I watch.

who needs cable? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901628)

I've never personally had cable and pretty much am a hulu/netflix/web kinda media junkie.

Never looked back (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901638)

I dropped cable TV more than four years ago, and haven't looked back since. With Netflix and other online sources, I can watch all the movies and TV shows I want, mostly without commercial interruption.

Depends on your needs really (2)

poompt (1442181) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901640)

One thing you didn't mention was that you can use a PC as an actual DVR (as in a recorder) by hooking up a tuner for those pesky shows no one seems to want to allow to stream. If you're in a decent service area you'll get all the networks in full hd for free, and be able to record them (and skip ads) for no subscription fee. With a tuner and streaming access you'll only be limited by shows that are both not available to stream and not broadcast over the air.

LIve Sports (3, Interesting)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901650)

I'm almost there, however live sports is a hard thing to find an alternative channel for.

Re:LIve Sports (1)

laxguy (1179231) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901702)

I'm not sure about all sports, but football (soccer) has a pretty big support base for streaming content. Lots of blogs with links to streams and plenty of sites that offer things like SopCast for peer-to-peer streaming of games.

Re:LIve Sports (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901944)

I find the quality and reliability of these streams to be pretty bad. Not to mention that every now and then the aggregation sites are seized by the DOJ/FBI/DHS.

Re:LIve Sports (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901900)

Agreed. A friend of mine "cut the cable" on the premise that her family would save up the money for a vacation. She wound up cutting their savings rate in half, due to the cost of going to sports bars, bringing food to friends' homes, all so she wouldn't miss her beloved football games. They only lasted two months without cable.

Boxee and Over-the-Air (1)

morari (1080535) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901656)

I use Boxee on a HTPC (you could also just get a Boxee Box), coupled with a digital antenna and a Netflix account. I don't miss out on anything that I wouldn't want to. About the only thing you'd really have to worry about are sporting events... assuming you'd even care about lame stuff like sports. :P

Yup, and it's hit or miss (4, Interesting)

Monkey Angst (577685) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901672)

I'm now cable-free, which has its advantages and disadvantages. Whether it's right for you comes down to one question: What do you want to watch?

For most broadcast networks, streaming is great. I use Boxee on my Mac, which aggregates a lot of shows from a lot of sources, just not Hulu. Combine that with the Hulu desktop app, and voila. Most of the shows I watch.

But not all. HBO, for instance, is (last time I checked) still aggressively married to the subscription-cable model. You can get their content on their website, if you are an HBO subscriber through the traditional means. I would have no problem paying for HBO, but I don't know of any cable provider that offers JUST HBO. So I have to pay for a package of nonsense like the Food Network and whatever's become of the History Channel. I want to give HBO my money, but they don't want to take it. Showtime is the same way.

I don't know what FX's current attitude towards streaming is, but I'll look into it before Rescue Me starts back up again.

Re:Yup, and it's hit or miss (1)

tkdog (889567) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901934)

I'm now cable-free, which has its advantages and disadvantages. Whether it's right for you comes down to one question: What do you want to watch?

For most broadcast networks, streaming is great. I use Boxee on my Mac, which aggregates a lot of shows from a lot of sources, just not Hulu. Combine that with the Hulu desktop app, and voila. Most of the shows I watch.

But not all. HBO, for instance, is (last time I checked) still aggressively married to the subscription-cable model. You can get their content on their website, if you are an HBO subscriber through the traditional means. I would have no problem paying for HBO, but I don't know of any cable provider that offers JUST HBO. So I have to pay for a package of nonsense like the Food Network and whatever's become of the History Channel. I want to give HBO my money, but they don't want to take it. Showtime is the same way.

I don't know what FX's current attitude towards streaming is, but I'll look into it before Rescue Me starts back up again.

But, for specific shows you can buy them from iTunes (or probably other places) in many cases. Probably cheaper than a cable subscription that you're not really using.

BBC iPlayer all the way... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901674)

I live in Sweden and pay the $250 TV tax / licence. The only "TV Program" we watched in the past year is Solsiden (if you live here you will know why...) We get free cable TV (about 15 channels) in the appartment, but hardly ever watch it. We use the BBC iPlayer for almost all the "TV" we watch, using an old PC connected to the LCD TV. Expat Shield gives us a reliable UK IP address and is free (add supported), (Foxy Proxy can also work if you get a good proxy.)

We haven't had cable for ten years. (2)

mellon (7048) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901680)

We aren't streaming-only, but we're streaming plus iTunes plus disc, and we've been doing less and less disc, to the point where I've fairly frequently sent discs back unwatched simply because I decided I wasn't that interested, and there was something better on iTunes or NetFlix. We might be an exceptional case though--we haven't had cable for about ten years, because it was too tempting to channel surf. With on-demand streaming and iTunes, you watch when you decide to watch, rather than being at the mercy of the schedule, which is a *huge* win. Plus, no commercials.

Re:We haven't had cable for ten years. (1)

davevr (29843) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901962)

I am in the exact same boat. I never really was in to TV and never had cable. I can't stand commericals. I used to just watch VHS, then DVDs, Blu-Rays, etc. Now I use netflix streaming and am discovering that maybe I did miss a few good shows over the years. Of course, I still pay ComCast a ton of money to get my high-speed net access so I am not sure if I am saving any money...

imac, hdtv, xbox, rivet (1)

arcane14 (1469175) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901682)

I use mini dv to rca adapter to use 46 inch tv as display for fiance's imac. text obviously looks like crap but video (hulu and amazon, youtube and vimeo, boxee, etc.) is fine. i also use rivet to share locally stored media from the imac to my xbox, windows media center to share it from my win7 laptop. i also use the xbox for netflix and once in a while hit up zune. supplement it all with a dv tuner and a physical netflix dvd once in a while and we're quite happy. three years sans cable

Roku Rocks (2)

cdrguru (88047) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901684)

I have a Roku XDS. It is really nice for movies from Netflix and (Prime member) Amazon which are all covered by buying the box and paying a really cheap $9.99 a month to Netflix.

I am planning on dropping the movie channels from cable, but will keep the "basic" (non-premium) cable connection as well as (of course) the Internet connection. You need 3-5Mb/sec bandwidth pretty continuously in order to get any streaming to work.

Roku does not offer much in the way of playing movies from a local source, however. There is a "channel" called PlayOn which lets you connect up a PC as a web server to the Roku box and some people have this working pretty well, others have had plenty of problems with it - mostly, I believe due to networking configurations.

Now for the bad news. This isn't going to last very long. The current cable infrastructure in the US simply cannot provide 3-5Mb/sec dedicated bandwidth to every home. It wasn't designed to do that and no matter how many promises the cable companies make about 20Mb/sec connections, this is bursting only. The bottleneck isn't the cable to the home, it is the fiber to the neighborhood node where it is converted from from a fiber link to coax. Once the neighborhood node gets saturated, the performance of any streaming service will suffer significantly.

One possible solution is for the local "streaming box" to simply buffer lots and lots of content using whatever bandwidth it can get. Then you can watch from the local buffer, whether it is disk or flash based is immaterial. Roku has only a small RAM buffer today but future devices could include a hard drive. Certainly no Blu-Ray player or TV solution is going to be as flexible. Boxee from what I have heard is having a terrible time getting their act together but once they do this might be the better way to go.

For now, I have a $99 Roku box and it is working. Maybe in a year or two I will need to replace it with something with more buffer space. For $99 I figured it was worth it for a couple of years of service.

$140 Blue Ray player w/Networking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901696)

Netflix, Vudu, Hulu == C-Ya comcast : )

Cord Cutting (4, Interesting)

EndingPop (827718) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901698)

I pulled the plug on Comcast over six months ago, and I love it. I bought a Dell Inspiron Zino HD 410 and hooked it up to my big ol' TV. It has HDMI out which actually sends the audio as well, since this computer is designed to be TV connected. It does a great job for streaming Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon VOD. I'm saving $60/mo., and enjoy a better experience. On demand streaming is wonderful, since there's so much out there to watch already. I do have to be patient, waiting for TV shows to hit Hulu or movies to hit Netflix, but it's been worth it to me. The only thing I really miss is the ability to just sit down and let the flashing box entertain me. Now I do have to make a choice. Before, I could sit down and let a Mythbusters marathon entertain me. I can still do that, but I have to think to do it before I can do it. I've also been spending more and more of my time watching podcasts from TWiT [] and others. I watch very little actual TV these days, only those shows I really want to see.

100% streaming (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901700)

100% streaming with netflix/hulu on ps3 and iPhones. Works great. Not all shows are available, but I honestly don't need to watch that much tv. Waiting 1 extra day to see house or other shows is not too much of an inconvience, but might be for some hardcore tv people. Possible limitation, uverse is changing our plan to 250gigs. This might be a problem.

If you have kids, this is an awesome solution. Kids watch everything on netflix, no commercials so they don't ask for new toys! They are never about the lastest fads etc. Commercials on hulu are not always age appropriate. Also we use boxee on the computers as well, nice old cartoon programming such as smurfs.

Again, this may not be for everyone, but with upping our connection to 12mbps we save over 100/month

We've been streaming-only for a year and a half (5, Interesting)

hedronist (233240) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901704)

When our TiVo died we were a bit short on cash (think: October, 2009). So we tried streaming and ... it was pretty decent. Then we looked at our $96/month DirecTv bill and thought, "Hmm.....," and canceled that sucker.

Since then 1) we've saved over $1,500, 2) we've totally fallen in love with Neflix Watch Instantly, 3) Hulu is good for the few shows we used to watch regualrly, and 4) we generally watch less TV than we used to (a Good Thing ®). It hasn't bothered us in the slightest. We have two other families who have decided that if a couple of old fogies like us (we're 61 and 65) can do this, so can they.

Wait a sec... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901714)

Cheapo and Dell..... Isn't that some kind of oxymoron?

Still clinging on to cable (2)

SingTrav (1153303) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901716)

Sometimes it's just nice to have instant access to channel flipping, sports, and news. I still use Hulu to watch shows that I miss, or sometimes download them. But I can't watch a college football game live without cable unless I want to watch a low-quality stream on the computer. And as much as news channels tend to spout crap on a regular basis, I just like watching CNN while I'm eating breakfast or if a major event is happening. For $40/mo I get 50+ HD channels, so I'll hang on to cable a bit longer.

I haven't had cable in 2+ years (1)

betelgeuse68 (230611) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901718)

I stream lots of content off the Net. Beyond that, I have Windows 7 on a desktop with an HDTV tuner card and over the air antenna and record lots of content with it. I then watch the recorded content on my HDTV by way of the Windows Media Center extension capabilities of the XBox360. (Aside: Spare me fanboy stuff) If you have an iDevice, check out RemotePotato. You can control what Windows Media Center records and stream videos to your iDevice when you're afar from home. With Netflix (streaming + discs), Hulu+ and recording shows over the air, it's difficult to keep up with all the content choices afforded to me. You might consider also using PlayOn which allows you to view Hulu content on your HDTV by way of the gaming consoles which can act as DLNA clients.

Mac Mini, Projector, Boxee - TRIFECTA! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901722)

I use Boxee, Miro, and a used 720P projector connected to a used mac mini and a drobo full of spare hard drives. It gives me dolby surround to the surround sound Logitech speakers I bought from a coworker. So I've got effectively an entire wall of video for not much cash. 300 dollars for the Sanyo projector, 200 dollars for the surround sound, 300 dollars for the drobo, 200 dollars for the drives and 500 dollars for the Mac for about 1500 dollars I have a home theater system that also allows me to view/store/share everything digitally with a RAID system that is upgradeable to 8 TB. The real bottleneck is sharing content over my DSL connection. I can't view things on the Boxee app Livestation for example while simultaneously downloading content using Miro without either 1 of the downloads being slow or the Boxee video stream buffering a lot.
The reason I would recommend this setup is that each piece is relatively disposable, I can lose a drive, the projector bulb can burn out, or the Mac Mini can fail, and I am not out a lot of money. It's just a series of pretty inexpensive components but it still does 720P with dolby digital surround as well as shares all the content I have. One can do this exact thing on Windows Linux or OS X with the hardware listed. And you can control it all with just the tiny mac remote and the projector remote. Works well with bluetooh keyboard, bluetooth mouse and bluetooth headphones as well.

MY list of gadgets. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901724)

At home, i have a 4core pc microatx in a tiny case running windows 7 on a 42 1080p w/hdmi out. I also got a Media Center Remote from Newegg and setup IntellaRemote for everything i needed. In the bedroom i use Apple TV 2 (I never use it for apple services though) .

So I use a variety of avenues for software. I also had this SAME setup in Canada too. I just signed up for a VPN service and was able to VPN into the US.

For movies:
-Boxee (running as software)
-BluRay Drive
-MediaCenter player with CoreAVC codec to use my graphics card for decoding.
-Old fashion giganews!
-I stream via Airplay to the bedroom on the apple tv2 with AirVideo

For TV:
-Direct sites (ie 48hour mystery, Dateline)
-Slingbox (I hooked up to a family cable box halfway across the US, hey If they are going to pay for cable why not benefit from it!!).
-Antenna!!! GET a dollar store antenna and you will more than likely get NBC,ABC,CBS in HD for free over the air.

Hope it helps!

I ditched cable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901728)

I ditched cable last December. I bought an aerial antenna, but after a few weeks I stopped using it altogether. This is how my living room experience is structured:

- I mostly listen to music. I have a 1st Generation AppleTV (160 GB), and all my music is in there.
- I have a Roku box, where I stream Netflix, and Vimeo. Vimeo is *amazing* for quality artistic videos ("HD" and "StaffPicks" channels), most people don't know that.
- I also have a Blu-Ray player to receive Netflix discs.

I don't watch live TV anymore. I get my news online, reading them. No reason for news in a video format. And for Hollywood show entertainment, there's Netflix (streaming+discs). I can wait without a problem for a few months until Netflix gets TV shows seasons. And for my artistic indie videos, there's Vimeo. I need nothing more.

- When I'm out of the home, I use RDIO on my Android phone, an unlimited streaming service like Spotify, but for the US. Either I use 3G/Wifi to stream, or just "sync offline" the music I want to listen to when there's no internet connection.

I need no stinking live TV. I cherry-pick what I watch.

Roku + Computer (2)

BobSutan (467781) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901732)

I cut the cord about a month ago and got a Roku. Netflix, HuluPlus, and Amazon Prime, plus the channels on Roku have more than met my needs. As for my wants, HuluPlus is near worthless since the shows I'd use it for aren't available for streaming to the TV despite being able to watch them online (eg Fringe) and Amazon Prime is utterly worthless unless you like Dr Who. Netflix is a champ though with them getting streaming for current shows still on the air. Once the networks/studios knock of being stupid and start looking at streaming like pay channels I think we'll see the streaming services start to look more like HBO than not.

For the past 4 years here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901734)

Netflix, Hulu (free, will never pay to watch ads) and clicker (when i'm looking for something) for the past 4 or so years here. I just have a laptop hooked to a TV (almost never gets unplugged) with a wireless keyboard and mouse. Netflix kept me entertained for over a year just by itself before hulu, now I hunt and peck what I want from all the services. I read all my news from the web sites, which means I'm only wasting time on reading stuff I want to read. I will never again pay for a TV connection but I have to admit I never watch sports and on occasion do long for the channel surfing of yesteryear when I have nothing interesting in my queues.

Broadcast TV, Hulu, Netflix (1)

sking (42926) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901736)

We ditched cable over 2 years ago. A $40 digital antenna, $80 USB tuner and a spare PC. Couldn't be happier.

WD Live (1)

Beowulf_Boy (239340) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901742)

For the last 2 years I've been using a WD-Live.

It connects to my home network, then I run a program called "PlayOn" on my PC. This shows up as a upnp server on the WD Live, and lets me watch Hulu, CBS, netflix, Amazon VOD, MTV, and a crap ton of other networks for free. I think playon costs like $20 a year.

The WD-Live will also play .mkv and .avi files up to 1080p off network shares.

Re:WD Live (1)

morari (1080535) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901898)

I used PlayOn with my Asus O!Play for a while, but was ultimately unimpressed. It does the job, but it's really more of a stopgap for those unsure of whether or not they want something better. Of course, it probably is the best option if you want to stick with your cheaper media boxes (WD-Live, O!Play, Box Office, etc).

I sh*t canned Comcast cable TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901748)

I got rid of comcast cable tv when they moved exclusively to Digital. I got tired of paying the same or more and getting less... When comcast decided that they wanted to charge for each tuner... I told them to shove it. I have a antenna and Netflix... I sure don't miss Comcast cable tv... I just wish they didn't have a monoply on high speed internet where I live otherwise, I would dump comcast completely.

Haven't had cable TV for 4 years (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901752)

Wii + NetFlix + PlayOn

Have been cable TV free for 4 years now. Had it for 1 month when I switched to U-Verse, but only to get free installation with my internet. We hardly ever watched the IPTV when we had it, NetFlix was just so much more convenient (no channel surfing required, no waiting for DVR to record it). Still Standard Definition here though, not sure how things will change when I go HD.

ok (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901756)

little late to the bus there chief, as most of us discovered computers are easy to hook into tv's and theres tv on the internet, quite a while ago, but whatever ...

I use an XBOX 1, linux and a little murga lua front end I whipped up (see how long? a 8 year old game machine with enough time to fiddle fart the perfect for me UI, ... sorry) works fine for SD tv

XBMC worked much better, but its not actively updated on the XBOX and the plug-ins slowly die.

Yes, Roku only... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901758)

Bought it first month released. Also do some for American Dad and Family Guy.

NAS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901760)

streaming services are great and all, but with the technology available at our finger tips today why not bring the server home? I built a system with an Atom processor, 2 GB of RAM, and 8 TB of hard drive space in a single redundant RAID-Z (6 TB usable), running the newest version of FreeNAS 7 and loaded it up with music, movies, TV shows, etc. and never looked back.

Yes, I've done this. (2)

tool462 (677306) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901768)

I use Apple TV for newer content and PS3/TiVo for Netflix. I'll also use an antenna for OTA HD viewing. Assuming you get reception, the OTA picture is my higher quality than my cable connection ever was. Live sporting events are crystal clear.

Got rid of cable about 2 years ago. Haven't missed it once.

Boxee + Giganews + Newzbin + Sickbeard (3, Informative)

nion (19898) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901778)

Boxee for the frontend, Giganews for newsgroups, Newzbin to grab the news feeds, and Sickbeard to grab the shows I watch and update Boxee automatically. Works FABULOUSLY, and it's only about $30/mo for the Giganews subscription.

None for me (1)

dasherjan (1485895) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901780)

I don't have cable either. Most of my entertainment (Netflix, Hulu, etc) comes from my internet connection. The rest are from DVD and book purchases.

I cut the cable three years ago, never looked back (3, Interesting)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901782)

I've done this. I use the following services:
Netflix (1 DVD at a time, $10/month)
Hulu (free version) ($100/year)
PlayOn (I got a lifetime license for $30 by getting in early. Now it's $80 for a lifetime.)

PlayOn allows streaming of new shows (Hulu), old shows and movies (Netflix), MLB games, and individual channel sites (like Comedy Central) to my XBox at a total annual cost of $220, or under $20 a month. The only cable service I could get at that price is the super-restricted version that only gives about a dozen channels, most of which I could get OTA anyway.

I get the added advantages of being able to watch everything on my own schedule, and also watch while travelling -- unless I leave the country, which unfortunately blacks out most services. But that's what the Netflix DVDs are for. I rip them to my harddrive as fast as I can get them, and now have a nice stockpile of movies to watch while overseas.

Yes. (1)

MrFancyPants (122224) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901788)

I do. I saved ~$100/month by axing Comcast and downloading torrents of all my favorite shows.

I built an HTPC for ~$600. I use MediaPortal [] to do playback. The plugins for it do an amazing job of automatically associating files with episodes, downloading art, keeping track of which episodes you've watched, etc. Similar stuff for Movies too. Throw in a Harmony remote and it's even wife-friendly enough that I don't have to do anything. I highly recommend it.

bottleneck (1)

indy_Muad'Dib (869913) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901798)

only bottleneck i have is the slow seeders i constantly end up with.

Kill Cable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901802)

I've been running some sort of non-cable setup to my TV for over 2 years now. Currently I just use a PS3 to stream Hulu+ and Netflix. I also use a free piece of software called PS3 media streamer which allows me to stream stuff that I've downloaded on my office computer to the PS3. The PS3 media streamer software works pretty much flawlessly as long as you've got a good wifi connection. It transcodes any files that the PS3 doesn't natively support on the fly with no visible loss in quality. If there is a sporting event that I must watch, I just hook the laptop up via HDMI and find a free stream on the web.

In the cities... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901812)

This is the only way I've known it for the past few years living in San Francisco and NYC. The only thing is that occasionally the internet connection goes down or Netflix goes offline for maintenance, so I do have a few of the most re-watchable TV shows on DVD or iTunes. Oh, and a few shows or networks skip both Hulu and iTunes or are ridiculously overpriced.
A digression: I'd buy both seasons of Community if only NBC didn't have a standard policy of charging 3x more for iTunes versions of their shows than DVDs cost at Amazon. Since I'm moving yet again and have no desire to buy more DVDs only to ship them 1600 miles next month, NBC gets none of my money which I think is part of a misguided intention to prove that iTunes isn't viable -- perhaps they foresaw the Comcast buyout and this strategy is to make whatever shitty service Comcast rolls out for internet TV seem better?

Around 6 Months (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901818)

I've been without cable TV for around 6 months now. I have cablevision Optimum online with boost (30/5). I use a combination of Netflix, Playon and a TV antenna for locals. I have xbox 360s in every room with a TV. There is the cost of the xbox live gold subscription, but we have all of the xbox's on an annual family plan of 99.00 for 4 accounts. For movies we want to see that aren't available on Netflix we use a combination of Redbox and Zune video. I also dropped my Optimum Voice in favor of a MagicJack. I have a dedicated media server for play-on and music that's always on, so the magicjack stays connected there. My annual costs, not counting the internet are around $250.00 not counting the internet connection, which I would keep regardless. I can honestly say I see everything that I want to.

Cable free for 7+ years (2)

frooddude (148993) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901828)

Ditched cable when we bought a house. We've had Netflix the whole time, wife does the CNN dance on her laptop. Netflix is mostly DVD, not much streaming. There's nothing on cable worth watching that I'd pay 1 month's price for the entire year.

Good use for a 5-6 yr old x86 box (5, Informative)

macwhizkid (864124) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901830)

I did something like this last year. Wasn't really willing to pay $1000 for a "Media PC", so I bought a Dell from circa 2005 at a local resale shop, P4 2ghz or some such, for $50. Then got an ATI Radeon HD 4000-something off NewEgg for $20. The Radeon 4000 is, AFAIK, the lowest-end card that supports 1080p hardware decoding. ("DXVA support" is the Microsoft buzzword that you need on the hardware + software side for this to work.) 2TB hard drive + USB enclosure for $100. Threw in a cheap BD-ROM drive just for fun ($50).

Total cost: $220. Less if I'd had the parts lying around.

On the software side, with MakeMKV + Media Player Classic, the box can rip + play Blu-Rays at full resolution with 0% processor utilization. Synergy to control from my laptop while sitting on the coach.

The final kicker was that the Adobe Flash team finally got off their collective butts and included support for hardware decoding in Flash 10.2. Hulu, YouTube, and Netflix all look fantastic.

I wouldn't dream of ever going back to cable and trying to program a DVR. Too much work.

I just don't like television (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901832)

And creepy DRM sites don't make it any better.
I recently moved into a new apartment, and elected not to get cable TV. My TV is just a monitor for my server, same as when I was at home. I don't watch TV... If I really want to see a series, I pirate it. Once I have free money, I'd like to buy some of them as well. It's a shame DVD is such a shit format that I'll have to rip it for archiving anyway.

My point is: Everyone who has tried to provide content has fucked it up somehow.

Comcast won't let you (1)

cjonslashdot (904508) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901842)

We live in Reston VA, and I have asked Comcast to discontinue our cable service, which is their most basic level, and only retain the Internet service. They told me that if they did this, they would charge me _more_ than if I keep the cable service. They claim that they have no way to centrally disconnect the Internet service: yet they have the ability to centrally turn on and off all other kinds of channels, so I don't think I believe them. I think they just don't want me to disconnect the cable service, so they have engineered it this way.

Therefore, for me, it makes no economic sense to not have cable. However, as it turns out, we don't watch _anything_ on cable. We have both a Roku (with Netflix subscription) and an Apple TV (with an iTunes account), and we stream all content. As a result, we never watch a single advertisement. It is wonderful.

I would LOVE to be streaming-only... (1)

ActionDesignStudios (877390) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901854)

Where I live, I basically have two options for Internet service providers. The one I do not subscribe to is too slow to stream reliably, and costs about $110/mo. Their service is, however, uncapped.

Now, the ISP I do subscribe to has wildly varying bundles and tiers. When I signed up, I wanted unlimited transfers but the only way to to that is to bundle your cable Internet service with cable television. I pay $83/mo for cable television that I don't even use. Seriously, the DVR that came with the service has been sitting unplugged in my entertainment center for four months. My cable Internet service is $65/mo and I was extremely happy with it.

Up until about 5 months ago or so, a new transfer cap was imposed on ALL of their plans. I have the highest tier of service (22Mbps) and I am limited to a monthly transfer of 125GB. The only reason I bundled was because if you didn't the plans were hideously capped (we're talking like 3GB/mo).

The cable company, I'm sure, LOVES all of my free money. I stream our entertainment daily but I would like nothing more than to see some competition here so I can ditch my cable provider once and for all...

I only do Netflix (1)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901874)

I'm considering getting an antenna to get local channels, since they are all HD over the air now, but I haven't bothered.

So the advantages are:

1) Less cost. Even with a few DVDs out at a time, Netflix is less than basic cable. I don't watch a lot of TV (spend too much time playing video games) so I always had trouble with the price of cable. Netflix is cheap enough it is worth it, even if I only watch a half an hour every other day or the like.

2) No ads. Having used Netflix, TV ads annoy me these days. I don't want my viewing broken up so much, so often, by ads. It isn't a deal breaker or anything but I really appreciate ad free viewing.

3) On demand. This is the big one. The show starts when I want, and is what I want. I decide some Futurama is in order? It plays right then and there, no waiting. No surfing saying "Man nothing I feel like watching is on," or coming in half way on a show I like. It starts and ends (and pauses for breaks) on my orders.

The disadvantage? Selection. Netflix has only a limited amount on watch now since the media companies are stupid. Fortunately, it has a large part of the shows I want: Futurama, Family Guy, Law and Order SVU, Top Gear, Myth Busters, etc. However there are others, like the West Wing, that I can't get. Also they don't get new stuff right away. So though they have South Park, I have to wait to watch it, I can't demand to see the current episode.

All in all, was worth it for me. As I said, I don't watch a ton of TV and to get the channels with what I wanted it was like $60-80/month for cable. Then add another $10-15 if I want DVR service and it is just real expensive. Netflix is a much better option.

Netflix streaming and broadcast TV (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901882)

I've got a Wii which provides Netflix and gaming, and also an attic antenna which gets ~8 channels. We don't watch TV enough to justify cable or satellite.

We've got a DVD library as well, but that won't be used much until my toddler grows out of the "let's play with the SHINY BLUE BUTTON" stage.

Been there, done that (2)

jimpop (27817) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901888)

> If you've done this, what does your approach include?

I did this last year. Dumped Comcast TV, kept the Data. Cut my Comcast bill in half. I pay for Netflix streaming. I had a Roku and Google TV, but I recently upgraded to a new TV that includes Netflix and Vudu. I also bought a $20 HDTV Receiver to pick up local broadcasts (works very well). I could add a DVR, but anything I would DVR is pretty much available on Hulu (but that's only on my PC because I don't use it enough to justify Hulu+ on the Roku, ymmv).

> If you'd like to, what are the bottlenecks?

The chief "bottleneck" is that there are too many options (Apple TV, Google TV, Roku, TV's with Apps, etc). You will probably not get the right combo of apps+device+TV on your first pass, thus it will take a few purchases/cancellations/equipment-swaps to get a solution that you like. For instance, I started with the Google TV (which is a decent product), but left if behind (gave it to a friend) when I realized that I only used it for Netflix and my new TV had built-in Netflix.

DTV Internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901894)

With digital television I get about 100 channels of commercials I used to see on cableTV, I cut the cord years ago and now that I have been watching a few programs again, I have to say, I am not coming back, it is a waste of time to dodge commercials for little slivers of ever worsening shows. Netflix, Hulu, network streaming, iPad, there are so many ways to get content, I don't miss Blockbuster either, which just closed.

DVR for OTA TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901904)

On a related, does the Slashdot crowd have any recommendations for a subscription-free DVR that records over-the-air digital TV, and that has at least two tuners and a decent TV guide? This seems like a no-brainer, but there are very few options out there, such as the CM-7000PAL DVR.

If there is no complete box out there, what would the best setup be for a HTPC to do all this?

Broadcast a thing of the past? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901910)

Broadcast-based media has no place in the digital age; on-demand content is the only logical route at this point.

Online content Traditional TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901918)

I am an English speaker living in Germany and getting TV to the home in the traditional way is useless because everything is dubbed. IPTV and DVBT don't provide enough English entertainment for us here. I can get some Freeview channels from the UK over satellite, but need a larger dish and the setup becomes quite expensive because of the costs involved in such a specialized setup.

As such, my TV experience is limited to streaming only. This is not only better than the choice offered by regular TV service here, but opens up a whole new set of possibilities. I am not only watching TV shows from the US, but also from the UK! Of course, being in Germany I cannot exactly access services like Hulu, Netflix or other US only streaming website and nor can I access the UK only streaming options of BBC iPlayer, ITV, 4OD or TVCatchup.

So I have setup a Linux router on which I can turn on a VPN to the US or UK depending on what service I wish to use. A jailbroken AppleTV in the living room is connected to my TV, running XBMC on it. With this, I am able to view BBC iPlayer and 4OD & ITV on demand streaming services. The XBMC TVCatchup application provides all Freeview live channels from the UK for live streaming as well. If I hook up a Xbox/Windows HTPC, using the UK VPN service I can also subscribe to the Sky Player which offers cable only live channels and on-demand cable only shows and a huge collection of movies. But, I found this service to be extensively expensive and so recently dropped it off.

Whenever I feel like viewing the shows from the US, I simple switch the VPN to the US one and off I go viewing the services I want. I have a streaming only Netflix account which is easily used from the AppleTV directly. If I want to use the on demand services of Hulu, CBS, Comedy Central or whatever else, I have PlayOn running on a machine and it works with any UPnP software (like XBMC).

This entire setup cost me €119 for the AppleTV (less than the cost of a decent satellite/IPTV receiver). The VPN service costs me €40 a year and the only recurring cost is that of the Netflix subscription that I have to pay. It works out to a total of about €10 per month. I consider that peanuts compared to the €50 or so I'd have to pay for satellite and still have no access to all the content I want. Of course, this is not considering the massive choice other plugins for XBMC, Boxee and PlayOn bring to the table.

I could never go back to cable or satellite. Streaming is not only the future, but the only sensible way.

IPTV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901920)

I got rid of the cable tv subscription a few months ago. Set up a dedicated computer: Win 7 with, Netflix, Hula, Boxxee etc all running under Windows media center. Netflix subscription $11 a month gets one at a time dvd's and streaming video. Gateway machine was picked up on sale and came set up for media w/ a tv analog and digital tuner, has dual core intel cpu running at 3gig, 6 gig of memory and 1 T hard drive which I rarely use. Still need cable basic subscription w/ hi speed internet to stream and be able to plug coaxial cable connection into back of computer tv tuner. Computer came with handy remote which I use most of the time and I purchased a separate inexpensive small remote keyboard for those times you need one.
Bottom line: I would never go back to cable ... mostly watch netflix because I hate commercials. But can record anything that is playing onto the drive and play back skipping commercials (there is also commercial stripping software available) ... and netflix remembers where I left off on anything I stream or put in the dvd player. Savings over cable supplied movie and extra channel content is significant. I have always felt cable was a ripoff w/ poor customer service. Only tradeoff is I don't get high def all the time ... but that is not important to me. The video quality from Netflix have been fine. Initial outlay for computer was about $500. Keyboard $30.

Another Approach (1)

evenmoreconfused (451154) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901936)

Got rid of both the TV and cable 12 years ago when the first kid was born. Gave the kids a PC and lots of (video) DVDs that we approved of. Now they're older, they watch (mostly crappy) series on YouTube and get (a little better) TV series in DVD boxed sets (Firefly, Buffy, Red Dwarf, that kind of stuff).

A few years ago we set up an projection system, fed by BluRay, Wii, XBox or, in very rare cases, WinTV on a Boot-camped MacBook. But still (nearly) no commercials.

In the meantime, I can watch important events (elections, catastrophies, playoffs) when I want to, either on a web feed from some news organization, or in HD using the over-the-air digital TV on my Samsung desktop combination monitor/TV.

Still don't pay a penny to anyone except for DVDs, BluRays, and projector bulbs.

newsgroups (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901948)

sabnzbdplus has a plugin to fetch the latest available episode of a series from newsgroups based on season/episode tags, effectively becoming a DVR for ad-free stuff you didn't pay for. I've never used it, though. =)

All streaming (1)

Nichole_knc (790047) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901950)

Been streaming now for 3+ years on DSL at about 2mbps. The quality is good, some times better than others. I have a Roku box, PS3 and do hook the laptop up to the big screen on occasions. Desktop has a pair of 22"s so I watch shows there at times also...

I am free from Cable/Sat (1)

Nexusone1984 (1813608) | more than 3 years ago | (#35901954)

I became the same way, paying outrageous prices just to watch a few channels.

I found that now that over the air TV is digital many of my old channels have multiple options from 24 hour weather, movies, classic TV shows, etc.
I can locally pick up over 20+ HD channels free.

I also found that Netflix fills the void for movies and TV shows that I once watched on cable/sat.

Even my kids, watch Netflix, Youtube for their shows.

I am (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35901956)

I am streaming all the way on Comcast. Even with a few hours of TV a night, I am not coming any where near my cap. I suggest those that are crying about such things turn off their torrents. Problem solved.

Only pirates care about caps. Legit users are fine, even streaming ones.

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