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Mac Users More Liberal Than Windows Users

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the we-needed-something-new-to-fight-about dept.

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adeelarshad82 writes "A recent survey conducted on 400,000 people — in which 52% of respondents were self-described PC (Windows) people, 25% were Mac users and 23% were neither — showed that Mac users are more politically liberal than their PC-using counterparts. 58% of Mac users were 'liberal,' as compared to 38% of PC users. Amongst other things, the survey also indicated that Mac users were, on average, more urban, younger and more educated than PC users, which could potentially be a contributing factor toward being more liberal."

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Cue the flame wars (5, Funny)

chrisG23 (812077) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920240)

Oh god, conservative vs. liberal with ((mac vs pc) vs linux) on an Easter Sunday.......I'm gonna go steal eggs from kids or something.

Re:Cue the flame wars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920262)

So...

For PC users, Easter = Jesus or Easter Bunny;
For Mac Users, Easter = Easter Egg?

Re:Cue the flame wars (2, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920496)

For Mac Users, Easter = Easter Egg?

And Easter Egg = Butt Plug!!

(oh come on, you know you laughed)

Re:Cue the flame wars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920286)

Or it could simply be because Mac users are used to paying a lot more for stuff unnecessarily. ;-)

wtf? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920346)

Urban means black/negro. Mac users are more black?

Re:wtf? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920408)

No. Just no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban

Re:wtf? (1)

magnusrex1280 (1075361) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920502)

Except "urban" doesn't mean "black," unless you're trying to get away with saying "black people" in a context where you know it's wrong and unacceptable. Like if you were trying to get away with saying "black people commit more crimes," you might say "urban populations commit more crime." Urban means "lives in the city."

From the department of fucking pointlessness (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920250)

Seriously, who the fuck cares?

Re:From the department of fucking pointlessness (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920270)

I don't.

And... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920266)

being liberal is a good thing?

Re:And... (1, Informative)

Jello B. (950817) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920306)

YES

Re:And... (3, Insightful)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920314)

But only under the old fashioned proper definition of the word, not the modern one.

Since the term was high-jacked the term "Libertarian" has come up to replace the good version of Liberal.

Re:And... (1)

darjen (879890) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920332)

And the libertarians hijacked that name from the old school socialists.

Re:And... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920406)

And the libertarians hijacked that name from the old school socialists.

That word, libertarian, I don't think it means what you think it means - even among people who call themselves Libertarian.

I know some Libertarians who make the Teabaggers look like Socialist Hippies.

Re:And... (1)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920446)

Actually, you can use the term "Classical Liberal" and it would be understand by most folks that know what the 17th Amendment did and why it wasn't good although it increase "democracy".

Re:And... (3, Insightful)

sqrt(2) (786011) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920452)

The "good" old fashioned liberals are today's economic conservatives. No thanks, they've done enough damage to the world. Social democrats are the good liberals these days. Libertarians are just scary in their slavish devotion to market solutions as the be all end all tool for every problem.

Re:And... (1, Insightful)

jhigh (657789) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920610)

The "good" old fashioned liberals are today's economic conservatives. No thanks, they've done enough damage to the world. Social democrats are the good liberals these days. Libertarians are just scary in their slavish devotion to market solutions as the be all end all tool for every problem.

Social liberals are far more frightening in their slavish devotion to government as the be all end all tool for every problem.

Re:And... (1)

magnusrex1280 (1075361) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920510)

"Liberal" and "Libertarian" are two completely different things. Libertarian is a form of right wing extremism, Liberalism is middle-left.

Re:And... (1)

Geraden (15689) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920558)

Libertarians are right-wing economically, but more left on social issues.

We're actually kind of right-wing extremist AND left-wing extremist. Makes us awfully fun at parties! ;-)

Re:And... (3, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920528)

Wrong. Being a balanced individual, who can think for themselves is a good thing. If you are going to be brain dead enough to say I am Liberal or I am Conservative really means that you really didn't spend any time on thinking about the issues and if they fit into your personal philosophy or not. They are things in life that needs to be changed that needs a liberal view to help bring to into play. There are other things in life which are not perfect but are at an optimal or near optimal state and any changes will negatively effect it. You should based your opinion on every issue that comes up and prioritize them in order of importance so when you go to elect an individual you choose the one who stands for most of your highest priority items.

Re:And... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920602)

September 16, 1991. Today it finally began! After all these years of talking and nothing but talking we have finally taken our first action. We are at war with the System, and it is no longer a war of words.

I cannot sleep, so I will try writing down some of the thoughts which are flying through my head.

It is not safe to talk here. The walls are quite thin, and the neighbors might wonder at a latenight conference. Besides, George and Katherine are already asleep. Only Henry and I are still awake, and he’s just staring at the ceiling.

I am really uptight. l am so jittery I can barely sit still. And I’m exhausted. I’ve been up since 5:30 this morning, when George phoned to warn that the arrests had begun, and it’s after midnight now. I’ve been keyed up and on the move all day.

But at the same time I’m exhilarated. We have finally acted! How long we will be able to continue defying the System, no one knows. Maybe it will all end tomorrow, but we must not think about that. Now that we have begun, we must continue with the plan we have been developing so carefully ever since the Gun Raids two years ago.

What a blow that was to us! And how it shamed us! All that brave talk by patriots, "The government will never take my guns away," and then nothing but meek submission when it happened.

On the other hand, maybe we should be heartened by the fact that there were still so many of us who had guns then, nearly 18 months after the Cohen Act had outlawed all private ownership of firearms in the United States. It was only because so many of us defied the law and hid our weapons instead of turning them in that the government wasn’t able to act more harshly against us after the Gun Raids.

I’ll never forget that terrible day: November 9, 1989. They knocked on my door at five in the morning. I was completely unsuspecting as I got up to see who it was.

Read more... [avrtech.com]

Re:And... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920520)

Basically, it's mainly the rich to upper-middle class and the working class that vote Democrat while the middle class votes Republican. Guess which group contributes most to society? You can't have a sustainable democracy without a middle class. We're falling into totalitarianism.

Re:And... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920540)

Most definitely. Yes. Only retarded red necks believe that conservatism will lead to anything else than the same fucked up ways they always were.
Society, economics, people, simple everything HAS to adopt to new times, new circumstances. One word : Evolution. It's futile to believe everything can stay the same, nothing has to change to succeed. And thus it's more intelligent to be progressive. The opposite of conservatism. To be conservative means to fail in the long run.

This applies to every country.

hmm... (1)

dicobalt (1536225) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920272)

That's odd because Apple corporation isn't very liberal compared to it's PC counterparts. Of course they are all responsible for terrible manufacturing practices in China and all around the world.

Re:hmm... (4, Informative)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920434)

Where do you think X-boxes come from, Detroit? There's no such thing as a liberal corporation. Look at the stink MS raised about Washington state taxes. Nor is there any such thing as a patriotic corporation. Their only agenda is more profits. Their Bible is the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (happy Easter!).

Re:hmm... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920618)

At least a contract between Ferengi is a contract. We can't say the same for most of the US corporations and the citizens of the US.

Correlated trends (-1)

wisebabo (638845) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920274)

I would imagine PC users are also...

More likely to not believe in evolution
More likely to not believe in global warming
More likely to think autism is caused by vaccines

In short, more likely to be anti-science or Republican (or in the case of Obama's birthplace, clearly anti-fact as well)

(you may consider this a troll but this story is about attitudes so it is on topic. And it is true is it not?)

Re:Correlated trends (2)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920604)

I would imagine Mac users are also...

More likely to be stoned on Medical Marijuana because it helps their "Headaches"
More likely to collect welfare and have more babies just to collect more
More likely to ignore debt and keep spending more.

See I can swap it around on you. (I tried to leave out being Gay just because the Mac already has that reputation, and homosexuality really isn't an aspect to liberalism, nor should it be perceived as a negative trait.)

Any Extreme Side can be just as stupid, greedy, lazy and misinformed as the other.

"More gullible" too. (-1, Troll)

MaggieL (10193) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920284)

Shocker.

Imbalanced Survey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920288)

Shouldn't you survey an equal number of Pc and Mac users, not 208k PC and 100k Mac users?
Also, is 100k Americans a decent enough sample size?
And why is TFA an infographic on a blog?

Homosexuality (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920294)

I would expect higher incidence of homosexuality among mac users to contribute to this? Possibly in a statistically significant numbers?

Re:Homosexuality (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920418)

you're using the question mark sign incorrectly, it's for questions.

Re:Homosexuality (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920578)

And I expect that you're overweight and a virgin

Re:Homosexuality (2, Insightful)

gnasher719 (869701) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920652)

I would expect higher incidence of homosexuality among mac users to contribute to this? Possibly in a statistically significant numbers?

If you are so desperate to pull, why don't you post your name, address and a photo?

Re:Homosexuality (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920658)

I would expect higher incidence of homosexuality among mac users to contribute to this? Possibly in a statistically significant numbers?

I take it the higher incidence of basement dwelling has lead to a disproportionate number of Windows users being dressed funny by their mothers.

Re:Homosexuality (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920664)

Way to go slashdot, mod the biggot up to +5 insightful for a clearly flame inducing troll post.

CNN story (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920296)

Link to CNN story:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/04/22/mac.pc.users/index.html?hpt=Sbin

Unfortunately, pointing out that Mac users are more educated than PC users, while true, seems like flamebait to many. People don't generally want to know what is reality - they want data that confirms what they *want* to think. This is a perfect example of many people rejecting data that doesn't fit their biases.

Re:CNN story (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920336)

Reminds me of the study about 10? years ago that concluded Mac users are more intelligent than PC users. Of course, there's no causation, and it's more likely that Mac using is just an extension of ones socio-economic success and exposure during the higher education process, but it 'sounds' flamebaity, eve though I don't think it is. I'm far too liberal and open minded to fall for such short sighted analysis, after all.

Re:CNN story (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920498)

It could be that children who grow up in middle, upper-middle, or higher incomes tend to be more materialistic and grow up needing certain premium-priced merchandise in order to conform and be accepted by peers. This leads to adoption of Macs for cool/style factor.

I have owned Macs before because I like the stability, ease of use, and the form factors as well - but for most people it's just a fashion accessory.

Re:CNN story (0, Offtopic)

HanzoSpam (713251) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920562)

Given that these days "educated" is pretty much a synonym for "indoctrinated", I'm not sure you'd get a consensus that having spent more time sitting in a classroom is necessarily a positive trait.

This is kind of stupid/obvious (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920298)

Of course Mac users are more liberal (or rather tend to have more liberal traits), it's a younger, "hipper" crowd for the most part, doing more "liberal-arts" type work with them as well, graphic design and all.

What does it matter? Not at all. Hell, Rush Dopefiend Limbaugh uses Mac Pros and loves them to the point of blogging about it.

Re:This is kind of stupid/obvious (2, Insightful)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920352)

OSX's walled garden (good or bad) approach extends far beyond the hip and young crowd. I'm in my early 40s and nearly all my friends are Mac users. This is not due to us being young and hip, rather us being white-collar working professionals with disposable income.

Re:This is kind of stupid/obvious (1)

Capt. Skinny (969540) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920606)

What I'd like to see is the correlation between Mac users and Volkswagen drivers. I would be willing to be there's a lot of overlap.

Distasteful (4, Insightful)

2ms (232331) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920302)

I find these kinds of comparisons between "liberals" and "conservatives" distasteful. For me, what my political leanings might be are about making the world better in the little way that I can as a person who can vote. They're not about sitting around and deciding I am "an X" and comparing my lifestyle etc to "the Ys" in order to find differences, feel that I'm superior, blah blah blah. Would it be too much to ask for "liberals" and "conservatives" to try to focus on finding things had in common and little less trying to find things that different from one another?

Re:Distasteful (5, Insightful)

s4m7 (519684) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920350)

You're either with the people who have polarizing world views, or you're against them.

3 kinds of people in the world: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920424)

those who agree w/me
Hitler
those who are worse than Hitler!

actually, I can't take credit for that - some guy posted it on the Dilbert blog a couple wks ago...

also, FWIW I'm a 41 yr old moderate (probably slightly liberal at this point) on a 13" Air w/4GB & 2.1 procs (I have the disposable income stewbacca mentioned above :D) - coolest laptop EVER!!!

Re:Distasteful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920476)

Very much agreed, I may be a republican but I find that I agree with both sides on many issues. I really wish their were no parties. I don't really see either side truly concerned about anything accept trying to stay in power. Just my 2 cents.

Re:Distasteful (1, Insightful)

houghi (78078) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920512)

What is even more distasteful is that somehow some political views are viewed automagically as "bad". Having different options should be a GOOD thing.

That's five minutes I'll never get back (5, Insightful)

Oxygen99 (634999) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920308)

Christ. What a waste of time. A self selecting young, predominantly urban, affluent, middle class, college educated demographic is generally more liberal than the rest of the population? Well, I for one, am shocked.

No, not really. What would be more interesting is in looking at what the distribution for those attitudes looks like. I'd guess Mac users would represent a classic bell curve while PC users would have a much less predictable pattern. But then I wouldn't expect the people who do this kind of "research" have any interest beyond trolling in the first place. No questions about conformity or deference to authority either. That'd be an interesting outcome...

Re:That's five minutes I'll never get back (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920360)

Christ. What a waste of time. A self selecting young, predominantly urban, affluent, middle class, college educated demographic is generally more liberal than the rest of the population? Well, I for one, am shocked.

Oh so THIS is the reason so many people lash out at Apple users anytime we mention something nice about Apple products. They don't like the fact we are affluent and educated. And here it was I thought they just didn't like Macbooks and iPads.

By the way, not everyone who is liberal is in their 20s. They grow up (and for the most part remain liberal because of that pesky "college educated" tag they'll carry forever).

Re:That's five minutes I'll never get back (1)

hitmark (640295) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920608)

Not sure about anyone else, but for me at least what tarred Apple products forever was an encounter by a internet asshat that used every chance given to claim the Apple way a better way. Something as simple as a irc file transfer that failed because the Mac side did not id the file type in the name caused a rant about how the Apple way of id-ing files where better...

Re:That's five minutes I'll never get back (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920670)

Oh so THIS is the reason so many people lash out at Apple users anytime we mention something nice about Apple products. They don't like the fact we are affluent and educated. And here it was I thought they just didn't like Macbooks and iPads.

I believe you got that backwards. For a long time it's been very difficult to say anything critical about Apple or Apple products without hordes of very annoying supporters defending Apple, attacking you, telling you to shut up, telling you that you could just buy something else (an inane argument, as if you couldn't possibly be critical to parts of products/company policies and want them to change through public critisism).

It has turned a bit back on the Apple supporters, yes, which they seem to be very touchy about. While this might not be you, as a group they created this themselves.

Correlation != causation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920414)

Correlation is not causation. When A and B correlate, there is no guarantee that A or B might cause the other. It might be a coincidence or historical accident of sorts, or there might be other variables in play. And I think your proposition might just be the C we are looking for.

Suprising no. (1, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920312)

Conservative (not to be confused with republicans, religious folk, or the other things that they statically are) are people who prefer that status quo. PC are the status quo for a computer purchase. If you are going to switch to a Mac, then you realize that you want to change.

Re:Suprising no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920398)

And how's that "Hope" and "Change" working out for you now?

Re:Suprising no. (2, Informative)

magnusrex1280 (1075361) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920546)

It's working pretty well, the problem is most people don't educate themselves about what's actually being done. They just want to buy into the predominant narrative, because it's more fun to hate on whoever's in the white house.

Re:Suprising no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920584)

Congrats on the dumbest generalization of they day!

Fits my preconceptions. (4, Insightful)

spidr_mnky (1236668) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920318)

That's not surprising at all. Here, am I talking politics or electronics?

"Just spend enough to make it work. What's the most common solution? Let's do that."
"I want to spend as much money as necessary to get what I'm told is the best and shiniest system possible."

Then there are the Linux libertarians: disgusted by the major parties, trying hard (sometimes too hard) not to become cynical about their tiny minority. "Of course it's a viable solution! People will get it someday..."

Re:Fits my preconceptions. (0)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920378)

"Just spend enough to make it work. What's the most common solution? Let's do that."
"I want to spend as much money as necessary to get what I'm told is the best and shiniest system possible."

Ok...

Just spend enough to meet my needs - Base macbook - $999.99
Best and shineiest Laptop, I want people looking at me RGB lighting encrusted Alienware laptop $3599.99
And then the linux guys... From $299.00 garbage laptop for a student living in a closet, to the Uber L33t Haxor running it on a Panasonic Toughbook that cost him $5500 so he can look Uber L33t with his bombproof laptop with a handle and his long black trench coat.

Re:Fits my preconceptions. (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920492)

All sorts of people insist that they can now get by with just an iPad, so I would expect that someone should easily have their needs met with a 300 "garbage" laptop (most of which are quite powerful and well built these days, just not particularly pretty), or even a sub $200 netbook. A $999 MacBook is probably not spending just enough to meet your needs.

Re:Fits my preconceptions. (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920384)

If valuing the "most common solution" makes one conservative, than I'm a raging liberal earth hugging hippy.

And here I thought Apple fans were the "sheeple".

Seriously, anyone who buys anything based on its popularity is everything that is wrong with capitalism.

Re:Fits my preconceptions. (1)

pla (258480) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920460)

That's not surprising at all. Here, am I talking politics or electronics?

I do find it somewhat surprising that the Mac people's preferences basically fit every stereotype you can think of. They prefer a Vespa to a Harley, bistro-fries to normal french fries, hummus to a Hero, Indie films to blockbuster...

I think the really telling point comes last... Mac people read Mac World, while PC people don't tend to read any platform-specific magazines. Mac people fit these stereotypes not by coincidence, but because they see their choice of computer not merely as a tool to use, but as an important component of their lifestyle.


As a side note, I find it odd that with only 2% more Mac users than "Others" in the survey, they didn't show the same breakdown for those Others.

Re:Fits my preconceptions. (1)

hitmark (640295) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920622)

Not sure i like the sound of Linux and libertarian combined like that. But then i mentally connect libertarian to runaway corporatism, so maybe it is me that is the problem...

macs are for show (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920324)

a lot of times, saying your 'liberal' is for show too.. if you were to honestly take stock of your ideologies, you might find you are not 'liberal' on every issue, but america has a black/white fear based political system, so whatever..

point is, anyone trying to look young and hip is going to identify themselves as liberal, the same folk who would pay 2000 for a computer with software on it thats a decade behind the times..

even linux is offering a better UX than osx these days, its a joke, obj-c is a turd, and the developer center is a laugh..

So PC's are easier to use than Macs ! (4, Funny)

Dolphinzilla (199489) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920366)

I had suspected for a long time that Windows PC's were easier to use than Macs - now we find out you actually even need a college education and a higher IQ to use one....

lol......

Misleading Statistics. (4, Informative)

Epell (1866960) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920370)

52% Windows users * 38% liberal among PC users=19.76% of sample population are liberal PC users. 25% OSX users * 25% liberal among OSX users=14.5% of sample population are liberal OSX users.

Re:Misleading Statistics. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920392)

Stop trying to be all logical and reading the statistics correctly! We're trying to slant a news story for a predesired outcome here that conservatives are idiot windows users!!! Sheesh...silly person!!

liberal pres vs conservative pres (0)

NunyerB (1190973) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920386)

it takes a liberal president to put the usa in more wars at the same time then a republican president like bush. i will vote liberal next time for sure

Hardly a surprise (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920416)

Young hip trendy people more likely to own macs. Young hip trendy people more likely to be liberal.

A common cause is pretty obvious here.

Re:Hardly a surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920436)

Young hip trendy people more likely to have not paid for those macs themselves. Ahhh, that sense of entitlement...

"more educated than PC users" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920432)

Aww, how adorable "more educated than PC users". Maybe that's because Windows owns the vast majority of the OS market?

Shock horror. What a waste of time.

More educated... (1)

morikahnx (1323841) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920440)

Educated = more money and probably more liberal. Young = more susceptible to fads. and.. they bought a Mac. What a surprise.

Results normalized by income, age? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920456)

Can't believe the correlation/causation thing needs to be rolled out again. If what this study really shows is that people who use more expensive computers tend to be richer and younger than average - it should be flushed down the toilet.

In reality... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920504)

The survey revealed that out of the 208,000 PC users 79,040 users were liberal as compared to only 58,000 liberal mac users. In other words PC users are 36.3% more liberal.

Speaking as a conservative (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920534)

You can have my PC when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

It took this long? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920544)

It only took nearly a quarter century to figure this out? It must be the cryptococcoidosis that has been ill-affecting people in Calipornia. Mac appeals to all the ARTSY-FARTSY who seek to become the personification of their lifestyle via the process of "pride" or think that people should be SHIELDED FROM MARKET EXPECTATIONS. Since Windows originated from the IBM PC platform (you know, International BUSINESS Machines), it was only consistent that BUSINESS people who have to CONFORM TO MARKET EXPECTATIONS would use it as a tool to raise PRODUCTIVITY. Consider how the people appear in the Mac v. Windows commercials:

by KudyardRipling on Wednesday January 27 2010, @06:23PM (#30926126) Attached to: Political Affiliation Can Be Differentiated By Appearance

If an individual by his or her body and verbal language suggest that he or she is ENTITLED to be protected from market forces, that individual is a state paternalist (a.k.a. 'liberal'). Think "musician hair" (goatees, soul patch, StalinStache, etc) for males and snootynose voices for females (pinch the nose, crimp the upper lip and with a squeaky voice pronounce the word "college student"). It is one who looks like one cannot get and hold a job.

If an individual by his or her body and verbal language suggest that he or she is NOT ENTITLED to be protected from market forces, that individual is a state minarchist (a.k.a. 'conservative'). Think 'conformity to market expectations' in dress, facial grooming, speech and tastes. It is one who looks like one can get and hold a job.

It's like the Potter Stewart opinion on obscenity "I know it when I see it". Only a fool is not 'conservative' with his or her own money. One's ideology is made manifest when it deals with OTHER people's money.

Questions?

Another factor. (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920554)

I wonder what percentage of mac users pay for their own machines. Almost everyone I've ever known with a Mac got it from their parents.Once they have a job and their own money the problem of spending $500 or $1500 on a core i5 laptop comes to light.

The best customers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920572)

"Hunch was started by clever folks"

"Hunch is building the 'taste graph' for the internet"

"a survey of 388,315 Hunch users"

    Hunch.com is a shopping newsgroup for trend followers who say "cool" and "hip" with no sense of irony. It's aimed at the Mac crowd, typified by the Pacific Northwest, understated dandy, whose carefully trimmed 5 o'clock shadow, "windblown" perm, and overpriced, fake-worn designer jeans say, "I like white water rafting and a good latte." What better marketing ploy than for a fluff website targetting Mac customers to create such a fluff survey?

    That particular point seems to have been missed in the survey: It would be difficult to overestimate how many people buy iPhones and Macs because they want to look "hip" while they do their homework in Starbucks. Apple is the BMW of unnecessary electronic gadgets. It's that most desirable of objects: an unambiguous winner in the world of consumer semiotics.

    Steve Jobs has certainly accomplished a notable feat. He's created a giant customer base of people who will do whatever he tells them to. And he did it by reassuring those people that they're brilliant non-conformists who think for themselves -- the true intelligentsia of modern [consumer] society. And now that iPhone Apps have proved that Mac people will pay for *anything*, what sense is there in marketing to PC users?

Linux on the desktop? (2)

Noughmad (1044096) | more than 2 years ago | (#35920634)

52% of respondents were self-described PC (Windows) people, 25% were Mac users and 23% were neither

So Linux has a 23% marker share? Is it that year already?

Old saying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920654)

"If you're in your 20's and you're not a Democrat, you don't have a heart - if you're in your 40's and aren't a Republican you don't have a brain."

I fond the 23% that don't self-identify as either Mac or PC people very telling - Linux has a 1% market share, yet it (apparently) shows up as almost one forth of survey respondents. Despite the 400K responses, it looks like s skewed sample, representative of a certain group of social media users...

Education? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920656)

Education is a factor to being liberal? That's pretty offensive. My wife has a Master's degree whereas I am a teacher with the equivalent of a Master's and we're both quite conservative. Being willing to give money to people who don't deserve it and being tolerant of all of the things that will destroy the foundation of our society doesn't require an education, it requires arrogance.

whats that mean? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35920660)

"politically liberal" means what?

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