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ERP Vendors Get Into Medical Marijuana Business

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the gone-to-pot dept.

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jfruhlinger writes "As medical marijuana is legalized in more and more states, a new market is emerging for ERP applications that can handle this unique business. Many people running medical marijuana dispenseries aren't used to running legitimate businesses and need technical help doing so. In addition, the drug itself is tricky to keep track of; as one vendor puts it, 'there's no other product that is sold by weight that evaporates, dehydrates and [turns into] shake.'"

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Release some educational rap videos. (0, Offtopic)

elucido (870205) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936292)

'there's no other product that is sold by weight that evaporates, dehydrates and [turns into] shake.

This rhymes. Maybe it's time to for a nickel or a dime. Brother, can you spare a dime?

Re:Release some educational rap videos. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35936486)

Not if the jackbooted fed shitheads and their Christian lapdogs in the lobbying groups^W^W churches keep trying to fight against what states voted for.

Re:Release some educational rap videos. (1)

everett (154868) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937036)

Not if the jackbooted fed shitheads and their Christian lapdogs in the lobbying groups^W^W churches keep trying to fight against what states voted for.

Remember, we fought a war over this before and the federal government won.

Re:Release some educational rap videos. (1)

slick7 (1703596) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937624)

Not if the jackbooted fed shitheads and their Christian lapdogs in the lobbying groups^W^W churches keep trying to fight against what states voted for.

Remember, we fought a war over this before and the federal government won.

To register for medical marijuana is to register for a federal DEA bust while the CIA brings cocaine and heroin into the country with impunity.

Re:Release some educational rap videos. (2)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936496)

This rhymes.

In which language does "weight" rhyme with "shake"?

Considering the subject, I'd say it's more like blank verse.

Though I can think of at least two other products that "evaporate(s), dehydrate(s) and [turns into] shake".

Neither of them are particularly good for you.

Re:Release some educational rap videos. (1)

n3r0.m4dski11z (447312) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937484)

ight, ake and ate are all very similar and can be happily rhymed,
But i am sure you will disagree and respond in due time

the weight of the shake got me baked - dehydrate!

you know how to rhyme right? You just didnt want the limelight? i agree, best stay outta sight!

Re:Release some educational rap videos. (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938022)

It's a slant rhyme (aka a half rhyme).

Re:Release some educational rap videos. (1)

newcastlejon (1483695) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936800)

...and [turns into] shake.

As in Shake and Bake?

Re:Release some educational rap videos. (1)

slick7 (1703596) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937636)

...and [turns into] shake.

As in Shake and Bake?

As in Wake and Bake. FTFY.

Re:Release some educational rap videos. (1)

lxs (131946) | more than 3 years ago | (#35939272)

It is also complete nonsense.

Evaporation is a serious factor in the aging of Whiskey. The so calledAngel's share [wikipedia.org] .

So whiskey may be sold by volume, but the effect is the same.

Re:Release some educational rap videos. (1)

vrmlguy (120854) | more than 3 years ago | (#35939954)

Speaking of evaporation, I used to work on a custom bill-of-material system for radiopharmaceuticals. We couldn't use an off-the-shelf system, because the active ingredients have short lifetimes. That meant that we had to track the precise age of the product in order to calculate the proper doses. For example, iodine-131's half-life is roughly 8 days, which means you lose 8% of your product a day, while technetium-99m's is a scant 6 hours, meaning you lose 12% every hour.

Super unique. (1)

The End Of Days (1243248) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936306)

Maybe tobacco companies know a thing or two? Bars? Starbucks, even?

Re:Super unique. (3, Informative)

Kjella (173770) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936406)

Repeat after me, we are all individuals. Yeah, the whole premise here is lame. ERPs are essentially custom tailored one-stop solutions for your business, it's pretty close to the definition of an ERP. So they wrote some special stuff for this business, just like they do for every business. Yawn.

Re:Super unique. (2)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936482)

Look at small business Ag Business software and solutions.

"...there's no other product that is sold by weight that evaporates, dehydrates and [turns into] shake." - Thats just not true, grain is sold by weight, it dehydrates, some of it is lost from mechanical breakdown, rot, etc

Re:Super unique. (1)

mobby_6kl (668092) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936586)

Yeah that seems to be a pretty ridiculous claim, there are plenty of products that degrade over time and experience shrinkage etc. Since I work at one of the larger business software companies, I'll ask around for what kind of solutions we have for this. I suspect that we'll have plenty to offer, the only problem I see is that most of these operations might be a bit too small.

Re:Super unique. (1)

Kreigaffe (765218) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938128)

I'm sure there are plenty of other products that lose weight due to dehydration and bits of it just turning into dust... but can you think of any that are sold for 10-20 bucks a gram? prices like that.. that's the realm of precious metals.

then again, i have no idea what the prices at those stores are like. that's just general street price for the stuff.

Re:Super unique. (1)

Khyber (864651) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938288)

You are dead on with your dispensary prices.

So glad I grow my own. AAA Medical, 20 bucks an OUNCE. Not per GRAM.

Re:Super unique. (1)

rgbatduke (1231380) | more than 3 years ago | (#35939874)

Gosh, that sounds like 70's prices, before somebody figured out that the X-generation was stupid and would pay absurd prices for what was and remains basically a weed...

But why does it cost you $20/ounce to grow your own? I would have expected it to be more like $2/ounce, or $0.20/ounce. Seeds: free (or a one time expense). Growing pots: $10, reusable forever. Potting soil (per pot) $3 if that. Water, fertilizer, light -- so little that it might as well be free but hell, call it $1/plant. Human time is opportunity cost. Total investment per pot of pot, certainly no more than $15. If each plant yields a modest one pound, that is less than $1/ounce, and if you reuse your pots, potting soil and so on (and of course allow a few plants to go to seed), the amortized cost drops to pennies per ounce, plus some pleasant time performing zen-like bansai trimming of your plants while talking to them...

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Re:Super unique. (1)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | more than 3 years ago | (#35939240)

possibly printer ink..

Re:Super unique. (1)

newcastlejon (1483695) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936826)

In their defence, the dry product is - unlike grain - at least as desirable to consumers than the fresh, wet stuff. I didn't realise THC evaporated to any significantly detrimental degree, though.

Re:Super unique. (3, Insightful)

DeathElk (883654) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936970)

I think it evaporates due to a phenomena known as "sticky fingers".

Re:Super unique. (4, Informative)

itsenrique (846636) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937802)

Ha ha. THC (and other active cannabinoids) do not evaporate but break down in the presence of light and/or oxygen. There is an optimal wetness (varies by individual preference), however it has to be dry enough to not mold if its in airtight storage (if its done drying, in other words). Theres a lot more too it proper drying and curing of pot, google is there for any interested souls. I don't think that quote was meant in relation to ANY and ALL products, but in relation to other medical products, like pills, creams, liquids, powders, etc.

Re:Super unique. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35937282)

But shake isn't completely lost, it's usually sold in different forms or for a lower price. For instance, most of the cookies, brownies, lollipops and such are made from shake. So tracking a product that's sold by weight where part of the initial weight gets repurposed into a completely different product over time seems like something that is pretty unique to their business.

On a side note, ice cream can evaporate, dehydrate and be turned into a shake :-)

Re:Super unique. (1)

itsenrique (846636) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937814)

Mod +1, excellent point.

Re:Super unique. (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936940)

Indeed. Alcohol is sold by volume rather than weight, but I can't really see how that would change much on the software side of things. Take software for alchohol. Change the L to a G. You now have software that can be used for selling things by weight that evaporate, dry out, and go into shakes.

If you want to -really- make a pot application dazzle your customers, maybe think about putting in a module which will do a google search for "deep questions" and then randomly put one into the report.

"You have 20 kilos of pot left for the rest of the month to sell. Also, how old would you be if you didn’t know how old you are?"

"Okay, so we can net $3000 for the rest of the month, and whooooa duuuuude...."

Re:Super unique. (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936968)

... so I realize now that they're using a "technical" term and aren't talking about pot that goes into milkshakes, they're talking about stuff that gets too small to use. This still does not seem like much of a hurdle.

Re:Super unique. (1)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937298)

Especially since it's almost certainly a problem that the tobacco companies have solved in the past. All you need is a clean-burning binder.

Re:Super unique. (1)

itsenrique (846636) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937838)

It gets solved a bit differently for a dispensary I'd imagine. Think much smaller scale. Dried out, shaky, and otherwise substandard but still safe (not molded or a year old) are probably turned into pastries, candies, and other edibles. This has to be tracked on their end, doesn't sound too hard, but its a unique situation to be in.

Re:Super unique. (1)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938140)

Out of curiosity, why does dehydration matter? I mean, don't people want to pay for dry plant matter rather than water? Water won't get you high^W^W^W treat your California-approved medical ailment.

Re:Super unique. (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938904)

I was motivated enough to do a google search for "dried out weed" and came up with a digg discussion, the first few posts indicated it wasn't as good. I'm not going to read that for very long, so I'm concluding that it makes it bad if it's dried out too much. http://www.reddit.com/r/cannabis/comments/a9b4y/does_weed_get_better_the_longer_its_dried/ [reddit.com]

Re:Super unique. (1)

theArtificial (613980) | more than 3 years ago | (#35939198)

Interestingly enough there is a growing market for cannabis potency testing and one of the perks is knowing what type of nutrients are used. While this is a bit beyond (de)hydration the value goes beyond the plant matter. Various companies offer services in several states (California is not alone in the approval of medicinal cannabis), however consistency and practices vary wildly from company to company. A practical example: In the later stages of development some growers use nutrients which are high in potassium to increase density. In the majority of purchases the sale price revolves around weight.

Supply chain quality control is an immense benefit to both the collectives and members. As you're no doubt aware quality is determined by a number of factors such as taste, smell, effect etc. however knowing the THC-A & THC-9*, CBN, CBD of a crop is great for specific needs patients. The ability to test for mold quantities and pesticides is also interesting. Now imagine if the uniformed buyer is an elderly patient or perhaps an AIDS or cancer patient.

* THC DELTA 9 (/. eats the symbol)

Re:Super unique. (1)

Maestro485 (1166937) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936996)

Actually, there is no reason for alcohol to be sold by volume other than that it usually is. I've seen a handful of smaller brewers and imports that sell by weight.

from http://beeradvocate.com/articles/518 [beeradvocate.com] :

"To convert ABW to ABV, simply multiply the ABW by 1.25. So a 7 percent ABW beer would be a 9 percent ABV beer. If for some reason you want to convert from ABV to ABW, multiply the ABV percent by 0.8"

Re:Super unique. (1)

Maestro485 (1166937) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937052)

Sorry to reply to myself, but as an aside, most mouthwash products have alcohol by weight included on their ingredients label. Mouthwash is actually as strong, or stronger, that many wines.

Re:Super unique. (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938480)

it depends if you measure specific gravity, %volume or proof.

Re:Super unique. (3, Funny)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937348)

Starbucks, even?

We don't have time for a handjob.

ERP? (3, Informative)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936328)

I guess we're talking about Enterprise Resource Planning [wikipedia.org] ? At least that's the only thing on wikipedia that looked like it made sense.

Re:ERP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35936520)

I guess we're talking about Enterprise Resource Planning [wikipedia.org] ? At least that's the only thing on wikipedia that looked like it made sense.

exactly why this is absurd. enterprise? did they change their business model and name to "weedbucks?"

Re:ERP? (1)

newcastlejon (1483695) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936852)

Did they change their business model and name to "weedbucks?"

How about WH Spliff?

Send your mod points on a postcard to Paul Merton.

Re:ERP? (2)

Onymous Coward (97719) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936530)

I think that's right. We're talking about software designed to help with business resource management.

Wish TFA or TFS had expanded the acronym.

Re:ERP? (1)

garcia (6573) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936888)

Yeah and you have to be high to believe that ERP is necessary to run a dispensary. I just can't imagine that they're bringing in enough customers to need that kind of database horsepower.

Re:ERP? (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937534)

ERP platforms range from Quickbooks to SAP with a whole lot of solutions in-between. Any company with more than 2 employees should have an ERP suite, my dad's business with a handful of employees uses Quickbooks for Manufacturing which is tailored for turning sub-assemblies into final products and handling that kind of inventory tracking and billing. As they say in the summary tracking natural inventory shrinkage is probably important with a business that's as heavily scrutinized as the medical marijuana dispensaries.

Article doesn't even mention it (1)

Toe, The (545098) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937098)

Interesting to note that the term "ERP" does not appear even once in the body of the article.

It's two pages, run searches on both... it ain't there.

Re:ERP? (1)

hedgemage (934558) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937308)

I was afraid ERP meant Erotic Role Playing.
Wish the article would have cleared this up better.

Re:ERP? (1)

hellwig (1325869) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938282)

"Erotic Role Playing" would make more sense to me than "Enterprise Resource Planning" which is just a made-up buzzword. Erotic Role Playing Vendor might be like a porno shop, the same shops that already sell all your paraphernalia needs (bongs, pipes, boxes, etc..).

And what does this mean: 'there's no other product that is sold by weight that evaporates, dehydrates and [turns into] shake.'. Really, no other product? Medical Marijuana is the only plant-based product on the entire planet?

Re:ERP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35937616)

Yep, it puts the ERP in DERP.

Re:ERP? (1)

Crudely_Indecent (739699) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938082)

Yes, the type of software that Exxon uses.

ERP manages many types of business activities, from manufacturing to materials management and HR to shipping and receiving.

For more info, you can visit a website of one of the ERP leaders - http://www.sap.com/ [sap.com]

No, I don't work for or with SAP anymore. I just know how powerful it can be.

Ins't it time for SANE drug laws? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35936450)

No Jail For Pot [nojailforpot.com]

SugarCRM? (1)

otis wildflower (4889) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936542)

Is there a SugarCRM module for running a medicinal marijuana biz?

Re:SugarCRM? (1)

alostpacket (1972110) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936710)

I think you're thinking of medicinal LSD. Like totally medicinal.

Re:SugarCRM? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35937568)

Judging by the quality of SugarCRM code, I'd say they're in the crack cocaine business.

The Mile High City (2)

zbobet2012 (1025836) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936564)

They don't call denver the mile high city for nothing.... Colorado is rocky mountain high.

IQ Tests measure how well you take tests. (0)

mmell (832646) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936600)

Oh, wait . . . damn, wrong thread. How'd that happen?

Uhhh...

atmostfear thickening; triple threat tuesday (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35936602)

never a better time to make sure that your extreme unction, or whatever absolves you from responsibility, is in good standing. the formerly unknown chosen ones continue to fire all of our guns at once, & explode into space? maybe finding an old book somewhere in (the former) utah will help us reconnoiter our history for the better, or even worse. it will not have the riveting impact of the genuine native elders teepeeleaks etchings. you can bet your bubonic blanket on that one.

I guess a stoner wouldn't know (4, Insightful)

scribblej (195445) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936630)

Plenty of businesses have to take this sort of thing into account. Look at any food service; they have to constantly calculate their 'food cost' and margin because food they buy doesn't always equal portions served; you sometimes get more or less in a dish, not to mention the stuff the cook dropped on the floor and didn't put back in the bowl, plus what the employees helped themselves to....

I thought stoners were the people who staffed the food service industry. I guess either I was wrong or they were just too high to notice how the business works.

Re:I guess a stoner wouldn't know (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35936834)

Any Food Service Inc. isn't dealing with a controlled substance, which means they do not need to account for what happened to every gram of merchandise.

- It says here you stocked X grams, but only sold half of it. Where's the rest?
- It evaporated!

Classic.

Re:I guess a stoner wouldn't know (2)

hackerjoe (159094) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937510)

Alright then, how about... a compounding pharmacy that deals with narcotics? I mean really. They're selling medicine compounded into different forms, this isn't some kind of strange, unique new business they're in. I can get compounded codeine lollipops for my kids from a pharmacy. Pot brownies aren't all that different.

Re:I guess a stoner wouldn't know (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938190)

I don't really know the specifics of their business, but plants can evaporate a massive amount when fresh.

If they are growing there own this could be an issue.

Re:I guess a stoner wouldn't know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35938304)

Did you think the platitudes of modern commerce and economics didn't apply to the M.M. industry?

Perhaps you should check your stash or put down the pipe. That is, if subject introspection is something you normally ponder.

Re:I guess a stoner wouldn't know (1)

twebb72 (903169) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938452)

...not to mention the stuff the cook dropped on the floor and didn't put back in the bowl..

Industry analysts predict that observing the 5 second rule saves small business an estimated 17 billion a year.

Re:I guess a stoner wouldn't know (1)

Pewpdaddy (1364159) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938892)

Spot on sir!!! Spot on!!

Re:I guess a stoner wouldn't know (2)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940140)

not to mention the stuff the cook dropped on the floor and didn't put back in the bowl

A, those wasteful cooks... Hey, please could someone explain to this guy that you only throw away food from the floor if there's a guy from sanitary inspection who is watching...

Packaging (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35936658)

'there's no other product that is sold by weight that evaporates, dehydrates and [turns into] shake.'

The food packaging industry would like a word with you.

no other product, really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35936696)

There's no other product that is sold by weight that evaporates, dehydrates and [turns into] shake," or small, dusty particles.

Sounds like someone is totally new to agriculture in general. Name any plant that doesn't dry out and get lighter.

Re:no other product, really? (0)

The End Of Days (1243248) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936746)

To be fair, pot dealers legal or otherwise are basically stoned all the time, and not always the brightest spoons on the meat rack besides.

Re:no other product, really? (1)

itsenrique (846636) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937858)

But what other medical prescription loses weight and potency the same way? I think the quote was just taken out of context.

ERP CRM KISS WTF? (1)

NoExQQ (1961082) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936788)

I happen to work with a few people who have "The Card". Getting them to fill in the blanks on a CRM is hard enough. The idea of resource management is not even in the picture! The technology won't help this industry. The quality of the product will result in "Right Pricing" and the consumer is already aware...

I call BS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35936816)

Its utter BS to think that any dispensary has product that goes bad over time. It sells very quickly. Only water evaporates and nothing "turns to shake" as the article so ignorantly states. The water weight is already taken into account long before it reaches the shelf or Ball jar.

there's no other product ... (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936892)

"... there's no other product that is sold by weight that evaporates, dehydrates and [turns into] shake."

Uh... breakfast cereal? Wait... Well, 2 out of 3 isn't bad.

Re:there's no other product ... (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937020)

Weedies...

Shake? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35936896)

Shake is a term meaning the useless parts of the marijuana plant. A by product. Stems and seeds basically. There can be different amounts per weight meaning youre not getting the exact same amount of "medicine" per bag. I think that is what was meant by shake in the statement above.

Re:Shake? (1)

itsenrique (846636) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937866)

You were on the right track, but no dispensary medical marijuana has seeds in it.

Your doing it wrong... (1)

sdguero (1112795) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936918)

If the weed is dehydrating and turning into shake, it isn't being stored correctly. A dispensary could use much less expensive and more practical means, like some mason jars, to fix that. I really don't see how an ERP system is better than a couple excel sheets and some common sense. Then again that could probably be said for 90% of ERP customers.

Re:Your doing it wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35937228)

Most do use jars for display and short-term storage but whenever a customer wants a whiff and/or a nug, the jar must open.

Re:Your doing it wrong... (1)

itsenrique (846636) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937874)

And indeed, as anyone who stores bud in a mason jar knows, it has a couple of weeks tops if its being opened a few times a day, before it becomes too dry to be palatable to most.

Big Business (1)

NicknamesAreStupid (1040118) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936938)

Pot has been the largest "off the books" agriculture in America for decades For several states it is the largest cash crop.. It takes a lot to hide that kind of money. I suspect the big growers have ERP systems they could license in competition with Oracle, unless they are just using Oracle's. Ask Larry.

How do they handle... (1)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 3 years ago | (#35936980)

the fact that it's not really legal (since Federal Law trumps state law)? On a side note, there's a goofy song [youtube.com] about how easy it is to get medical marijuana, but it occurs to me that's only true if you've got health care. The current system of medical marijuana works great if you're wealthy. You get to smoke all you want, and you still get to call the cops of there's poor people in your neighborhood and have them arrested :(. Based on this I wonder if we'll ever see it made truly legal so long as it's safe for People That Matter...

Re:How do they handle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35937110)

Paradox: in some states, its taxed. San Jose (not sure about the rest of Cali) just voted in something like 10% tax at point of sale.

Taxed and yet not legal?

*head asplodes*

Really hard to explain that. You cannot collect taxes on illegal things!

Can't be half pregnant, here.

Re:How do they handle... (1)

The Iconoclast (24795) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937214)

Actually, you CAN tax illegal things. That's how they got Al Capone: tax evasion.

Re:How do they handle... (1)

SCPRedMage (838040) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937586)

That's how they got Al Capone: income tax evasion.

FTFW

Seriously, though, they weren't taxing the moonshine he was running; it was the income (admittedly, that came from illegal activities) that he wasn't reporting that got him busted. It just happened to be a hell of a lot easier to prove he had the income than it was to prove where it came from.

Re:How do they handle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35937594)

Really hard to explain that. You cannot collect taxes on illegal things!

You really have very little imagination.

I recall a quote on YouTube from a marijuana dealer, he said something like, "I don't mind taking my chances with the DEA, but I always pay my taxes on all my income. The IRS can make your life a living hell."

Re:How do they handle... (1)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937988)

Federal law trumps state law? Well there's your problem. What ever happened to a weak federal government and a strong state/local government down there in the US anyway...

Re:How do they handle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35938154)

It, as and idea, started dying in the 1790s, was crushed in the 1860s, and has been slowly bleeding out since. Not the end of the world though, if we had kept the Articles of Confederation we'd probably look a lot like the EU right now.

Re:How do they handle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35938822)

The way they handle the difference between state and federal laws is the fact that the feds have recently been not enforcing the federal law against these dispensaries. At some time in the future with a change of opinion or a change of the executive branch those laws may be cracked down on again. Although the longer the state laws sit un contested, the bigger the backlash that would occur if the feds got anal about it all.

Reminds me of a Star Wars quote (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35939580)

HAN: Aren't you afraid the Empire's going to find out about this little operation and shut you down?

LANDO: That's always been a danger looming like a shadow over everything we've built here. But things have developed that will insure security. I've just made a deal that will keep the Empire out of here forever.

What are they smoking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35937022)

Don't know how many times i've asked this question during ERP implementations. At least with these clients you know the answer...

I'm not too suprised... (1)

jd2112 (1535857) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937058)

I got the impression that most ERP vendors are smoking something...

Finally - a 'cloud' solution (1)

AgentPhunk (571249) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937174)

Yes, pun intended, but seriously: many dispensaries are still getting raided by the feds, who take their computers and customer lists. Maybe a cloud-based ERP solution would be a good way to get around this, assuming you could crypto the fuck out of it. Just figure out how to remember the password before you toke up, and don't write the password down on rolling papers.

Re:Finally - a 'cloud' solution (1)

n3r0.m4dski11z (447312) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937546)

How does the cloud site, based most likely in america, get around this? Seems like it would be much more legally opertune to go for a centralized offsite cloud site, than hundreds of small businesses.

Especially one which being a cloud, most likely crosses interstate lines? I could not think of a worse use for a "cloud" system than something federally illegal

Why keep a customer list in the first place? No one writes down your info if you buy cigarettes I am pretty sure. This article is just stupid.

Re:Finally - a 'cloud' solution (1)

currently_awake (1248758) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937738)

If you want security then you host your own data, else the gov cracks your server remotely. I suppose you could have a self destruct on your server, with password protection for access- I assume they (police) can't force you to testify (give password) legally. Of course your password would have to change with every single use to prevent key logging. You could use words from the US the constitution as your passwords, one word at a time in order- I don't expect they would figure out that one even if you post the constitution on your wall behind the computer with used words crossed out.

any recent progress in sorting algorithms? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35937422)

The last new development I'm aware of came from academia in the '70s, when it was discovered that 12 inch ZZ Top album covers provided the best color contrast and audio background for sorting out seeds.

Re:any recent progress in sorting algorithms? (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938854)

mod the bloke up, please!

ERP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35937486)

What does Erotic Role Play have to do with medical marijuana?

Check this Out (1)

jackdub (1938908) | more than 3 years ago | (#35937816)

Check out EmeraldPOS [emeraldpos.com] .

It is a CRM/POS that uses PHP/MySQL and it is apparently open-source!

Old news... ? (1)

Lexor (724874) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938194)

It's already been done...

Dope Wars [sourceforge.net]

Amateurs (2, Insightful)

Animats (122034) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938408)

Many people running medical marijuana dispensaries aren't used to running legitimate businesses.

Right. We'd be better off if the stuff was just made a class II or III prescription drug and dispensed at real pharmacies. Some people have a medical need for it, but nowhere as many as the number of people wanting it.

Having lived near San Francisco for years, I'm not impressed with the stoner community. There are way too many burnout cases on the streets.

Re:Amateurs (1)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 3 years ago | (#35938894)

>There are way too many burnout cases on the streets.

And that's a result of marijuana use among people who are otherwise completely sober?

Re:Amateurs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35939208)

..and how many burnout drunks/alcoholics?

Just checking...

Re:Amateurs (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35939264)

FYI the burnout cases on the streets aren't pot heads. They're likely heroin addicts or alcoholics. you probably don't know the difference. The burnouts are always going to be burnouts.

FYI I am a 4.0 university student who smokes weed.

It makes no sense to ban a substance from people like me because of a very small percentage of people who are not likely to achieve much in the first place. I'm in Denver, which is often talked about as the most weed friendly place in the US so YMMV, but I know more successful, driven overachievers who smoke weed than total losers who do.

Re:Amateurs (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35939960)

The Dutch did. Turns out that the overhead of the medical system is so big, even those with prescriptions don't bother and just go to the local dealer.
(Medical marijuana typically isn't covered by insurances, so patients pay either way).

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