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Sony's New Android-based Dual Screen Tablets

CmdrTaco posted more than 3 years ago | from the i-got-double-vision dept.

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trawg writes "Sony has officially announced a new line of 'Sony tablets.' There are two models, both offering 3G/4G and Wi-Fi running Android 3.0 — one is a typical tablet with a 9.4-inch screen and the other is an 'unprecedented dual screen' type. Digital content is a big focus: music, books and first generation PlayStation titles will all be available (subject to the usual region restrictions for content)."

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Dual screen game system? (1)

Even on Slashdot FOE (1870208) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940838)

So Sony is marketing the PDS now? (Playstation Dual Screen) I wonder if I will be able to play NDS games on it.

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

JavaBear (9872) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940858)

Probably not, at least not without a jailbreak, and we have seen that Sony reacts badly to those.

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941072)

What company doesn't "react badly" to people trying to get around their DRM?

Re:Dual screen game system? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35941224)

Decent ones.

Re:Dual screen game system? (2)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941326)

Decent ones.

Wrong, try again. Decent ones don't set a DRM in the first place.

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941348)

If they put it in but are happy for people to break it, they're either stupid (for wasting time and money on a feature they don't want), or just pandering to content providers.

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941424)

What company doesn't "react badly" to people trying to get around their DRM?

Is putting on a different version of the Android OS breaking "DRM"?

Sony seems like the company you'd least buy a device which is supposedly based on an "open" platform like Android and not expect to buy something locked down, proprietary, and that you can only use as they tell you. In fact, it seems like Sony would be bigger asshats than everyone says Apple is.

I'm sure people will buy it, since not everyone seems to have realized that they're a bunch of evil pricks ... but I can't really see many people who read Slashdot going anywhere near this thing.

After the rootkit stuff from a few years ago, and everything else I've seen Sony do ... I wouldn't buy an actual device from them unless someone held a gun to my head.

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941530)

The only reason I'd consider getting one of these is to get the PSX emulation, so I wouldn't want to load on something else. With my Streak I loaded on a custom ROM since Dell/O2 are so lethargic with updates, and I haven't had any reason to want a custom ROM on my Xoom yet. Someone has already posted up a link to a free Android PSX emulator anyway, so I'll probably have a look at that :)

Never had an issue with putting custom ROMs on my Xperia either btw (and I didn't buy that device, I was given it by work, and was relatively happy with it).

Re:Dual screen game system? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35943694)

Yeah, right up until they push a firmware "update" that removes PSX emulation.

Remember, it only does everything (that they want).

Re:Dual screen game system? (2)

ian mills (721167) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941566)

Well they do have a website for it... http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/ [sonyericsson.com]

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

mlts (1038732) | more than 3 years ago | (#35943006)

That is fair. If it allows for a complete unlocking, even with purging the DRM keys, that is just fine with me. Android's Marketplace uses LVL for its DRM, which is not dependent on anything on the device.

I just hope the production models allow for this method of unlocking.

Re:Dual screen game system? (5, Insightful)

Znork (31774) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941012)

One may also wonder what one will be able to do on it in a year. Maybe Sony suddenly realizes that Android uses Linux and decides to disable Android as a bootable option.

No thanks to Sony products as far as I'm concerned.

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

Tsingi (870990) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941066)

No thanks to Sony products as far as I'm concerned.

It's too bad, they make good products. But I'm with you on that, no more Sony for me either.

Far too often they are asshats to their clientèle.

:)

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941298)

Absolutely. Some of their hardware is aesthetically quite compelling, but the potential for problems with being able to do things my own way are just too great. Sony has joined Apple in the control freak lock-down category. I'm sure it's a fine choice if you just want to use it as it is out-of-the-box, but I'm not an out-of-the-box kind of geek.

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

johnsnails (1715452) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941630)

By definition? Or am I being too optimistic about the current definition of a geek?

Re:Dual screen game system? (0)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941666)

I guess I'm old and just don't know anymore. Kids download executables from Anonymous or even just use google and call that "a hack" nowadays. o_0

Re:Dual screen game system? (2)

smelch (1988698) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942086)

It always makes me feel dirty when I say something like "Hey, you can't just take these IDs from the client as good and not check that they have authority for those items, let me show you why with the querystring and Fiddler." and my boss calls me a hacker. I'm not a hacker, your software design is just shitty.

Re:Dual screen game system? (4, Informative)

ciderbrew (1860166) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941376)

It's only in the west that they enjoy a good rep. My wife, who is Japanese sees them as utter crap. Much better stuff to be had in Akihabara. A few friends think that too. (and I think 5 people sum up a nation, so there)

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

Tsingi (870990) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941452)

It's only in the west that they enjoy a good rep. My wife, who is Japanese sees them as utter crap. Much better stuff to be had in Akihabara. A few friends think that too. (and I think 5 people sum up a nation, so there)

I've been to Akihabara, and I'd sure like to go there again some day soon. It should be a pilgrimage destination for every hardware geek.

Awesome the stuff you can get in Japan, even in a hardware store.

I hope they make it through this crisis OK.

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

ciderbrew (1860166) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941700)

I went 3 years ago and it wasn't as good as it used to be (13years ago). But that long out of Tokyo means it has all changed again anyway. Will they ever finish the place?

Re:Dual screen game system? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35942634)

So your Japanese wife has access to some special TVs the rest of us don't, huh? I'd love to know what kind of TV she is using that makes Sonys seem like "utter crap."

Sony makes products all over the price spectrum. They've never been known for making high end audio equipment, but their displays have always been well-regarded, so I suspect this dual-screen tablet will be quite nice.

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35943668)

So your Japanese wife has access to some special TVs the rest of us don't, huh? I'd love to know what kind of TV she is using that makes Sonys seem like "utter crap."

Amusingly televisions are pretty much the only thing Sony still does well. I'd put Bravia right up there with Aquos et cetera. I, of course, have an Aquos :D I'm on my second one actually, I had a small one which was fantastic, then we upgraded and I traded the small one for a compressor and some air tools.

It could come with perpetual free beer... (2)

Nefarious Wheel (628136) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941200)

It could come with perpetual free beer and pizza and I still wouldn't buy it. I will not purchase another Sony product as long as I live. They treat people badly, and I've had quite enough of them.

Re:It could come with perpetual free beer... (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941354)

It could come with perpetual free beer and pizza and I still wouldn't buy it. I will not purchase another Sony product as long as I live. They treat people badly, and I've had quite enough of them.

Not even if they release the source code of that beer?

Re:It could come with perpetual free beer... (1)

DCFusor (1763438) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941362)

If just once, there was a boycott big enough to make a major firm change its ways, or go broke, wouldn't that be cool? Their power exceeds that of most governments -- we should make them broke and powerless for being evil.

Re:It could come with perpetual free beer... (1)

thedonger (1317951) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941642)

If just once, there was a boycott big enough to make a major firm change its ways, or go broke, wouldn't that be cool? Their power exceeds that of most governments -- we should make them broke and powerless for being evil.

The fact that you can boycott them means they are less powerful than most governments. Regardless, how is a bunch of Sony haters going to boycott a company they don't patronize in the first place? And why should those Sony haters try to get people who like Sony to turn on them for the sole purpose of making them "go broke?" You are already making your choice by not buying their products. Please don't try to ruin it for the rest of us.

Groceries and Rickrolls (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941724)

The fact that you can boycott them

How do I boycott Sony when all the local grocery stores buy Sony Music to play over the speaker systems? And how do I boycott Sony when someone induces me to follow a link to a video of a song performed by Rick Astley and released on a Sony label?

Re:It could come with perpetual free beer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35941902)

How do you boycott them when they are given subsidies on all blank media? What about when they get subsidies on all ISP bills. And what would come next after that?

Re:It could come with perpetual free beer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35942812)

Who is ruining what? I consider it my civic duty to continue telling everyone I know and even some I don't what a piece of shit sony and their products are. I will continue to do so until I'm old and moldy in ground or sony is dead. Sorry, scratch that last part I would still be telling people even after they were dead.

Re:It could come with perpetual free beer... (1)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942076)

Corporations, though powerful, aren't as powerful as governments. The most powerful governments can launch world-destroying nuclear attacks. I don't recall too many Fortune 500 companies with stockpiles of ICBMs and nuclear warheads.

Re:It could come with perpetual free beer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35942342)

Walmart destroyed the USA economy. That's "world-destroying" enough.

Re:It could come with perpetual free beer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35943598)

Some people would say you are missing the part about the companies running the government that gets to order the military around.
The government is a theatrical performance. They have imaginary power. When the companies threaten, the government caves.

Re:Dual screen game system? (1)

Kikuchi (1709032) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942262)

And how ironic is that the photo in TFA is captionned :

Design and specifications are subject to change without notice

Production schedules? (0)

JavaBear (9872) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940844)

But will they be able to produce these in any significant number, after the Tsunami?

Re:Production schedules? (1)

ciderbrew (1860166) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941416)

first define significant. But looking at sales, they'll over produce by a factor of 5.


no idea what a factor of 5 really means, just say it in meetings to sound wise.

Unprecedented Dual Screen (5, Informative)

Sonny Yatsen (603655) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940852)

Re:Unprecedented Dual Screen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35941050)

You mean marketing people lie!?

They should have gone with 3+ (1)

OnionFighter (1569855) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941228)

Anybody can do two screens.

Re:They should have gone with 3+ (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941372)

Anybody can do two screens.

Except Microsoft?

Re:They should have gone with 3+ (1)

Dr Max (1696200) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941694)

Yeah but two 5.5 inch screens only a really stupid company could do that.

Fuck it, we're going to 5 (1)

Brannon (221550) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942470)

top that.

Re:Unprecedented Dual Screen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35941400)

Or the Entourage Edge. http://www.entourageedge.com (dual screen with e-paper/android).

Re:Unprecedented Dual Screen (1)

ItsLenny (1132387) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942282)

Or the Entourage Edge which was released over a year ago... it's a little different it's half e Ink but still. http://www.entourageedge.com/ [entourageedge.com]

Re:Unprecedented Dual Screen (1)

Walt Sellers (1741378) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942446)

Or Apple's "Knowledge Navigator" concept machine.

Oh, it's Sony (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35940856)

Wow, those tablets sound interesting.

Oh, wait. Sony makes them. I'll pass, thanks.

Re:Oh, it's Sony (5, Insightful)

stonewallred (1465497) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940868)

Yep. Nice big screen on one, portability and fun stuff on the other.

But that big SONY name on them means I will never own one.

Re:Oh, it's Sony (2)

berashith (222128) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940896)

totally agree. My first thought was the warranty will never be honored, which is quickly followed by "why should I burn my money on their shitty stuff?"

Re:Oh, it's Sony (2)

Svartalf (2997) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941068)

My first thought was that of "When will they pull an "OtherOS Removal" on it or a "Rootkit" (if it's not already done...), which was quickly followed by your remarks.

Re:Oh, it's Sony (2)

drooski (1404851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941240)

Reminds me of their corporate slogans...

"make.believe."... that OtherOS removal, CD Rootkits, Geohot lawsuit, etc never happened
We'll screw all our customers... "like.no.other"
"It's a Sony"... too bad, I would have bought it otherwise.

Re:Oh, it's Sony (1)

camperslo (704715) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941220)

Yep. Nice big screen on one, portability and fun stuff on the other.

And two screens should be great for people with split personalities?

Having two screens certainly opens new possibilities. Maybe AT&T can charge for tethering twice?

Re:Oh, it's Sony (0)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941408)

Yep. Nice big screen on one, portability and fun stuff on the other.

And two screens should be great for people with split personalities?

My personality is split in more than 2, you insensitive clods!

Re:Oh, it's Sony (1)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942140)

Just split the screen however you need it, just like on consoles. Then all of your personalities can come play!

Re:Oh, it's Sony (0)

JoeCommodore (567479) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941238)

Yeah, they might as well call them the CLIÉ 2 - Sony has a PC track record of great looking stuff that are not as well supported as one would hope.

Re:Oh, it's Sony (5, Insightful)

logru (909550) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941672)

I would just like to add a +1 to this, and would have loved to see a poll on the number of people who would just never buy a Sony device. After owning a Sony laptop (why do I want that memoryshtick shit and why is everything on it non-standard?), a minidisc recorder (why can I only upload to it, not even download stuff I recorded myself?), seen the crazy that was the rootkit (thankfully didn't happen to me) I vowed never to buy their crap again. The playstation nonsense proved that it was a good idea and I can't see it ever change. Friends don't let friends buy Sony.

Recorded vs. wrote (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941762)

a minidisc recorder (why can I only upload to it, not even download stuff I recorded myself?)

Just because you recorded the song yourself doesn't mean you wrote the song yourself. Can you prove that your song isn't substantially similar to any of the songs controlled by Sony/ATV, a joint partnership between Sony and the estate of Michael Jackson?

Re:Recorded vs. wrote (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941944)

See that's the crux of the decline of Sony. By your logic, can you prove what you recorded on Betamax doesn't fall under Fair Use? Today's Sony would have never taken the case to the Supreme Court and consumers would never have had VCRs. The Sony of old only had to worry about making good electronics. The new Sony has to protect content sales as well.

Re:Oh, it's Sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35942568)

Your loss then....

Re:Oh, it's Sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35942976)

Not just his loss--everyone loses. Sony loses business. People who give Sony business lose the ability to run Android when Sony decides that it no longer wants to allow it. We all lose freedoms. Sony loses respect. When Sony is involved, everyone loses.

PSX4Droid kicked from android market (1)

OeLeWaPpErKe (412765) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940872)

So this is why google kicked psx4droid out of the android market [engadget.com]

Of course, that just resulted in the application becoming free [zodttd.com] .

Re:PSX4Droid kicked from android market (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941094)

Thanks! Hope it works nicely with Honeycomb :)

Re:PSX4Droid kicked from android market (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941784)

Thanks! Hope it works nicely with Honeycomb :)

That depends on to what extent Sony customizes the operating system to detect sideloading of blacklisted applications through "Unknown sources" or ADB installation.

Re:PSX4Droid kicked from android market (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941870)

I meant on my Xoom. Why would you need a 3rd party emulator on the Sony devices?

Re:PSX4Droid kicked from android market (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941992)

Why would you need a 3rd party emulator on the Sony devices?

  • To play ISOs of game discs that you own but Sony happened not to release on this service.
  • To play ISOs of game discs that you own but are not willing to re-buy at the prices that Sony is likely to charge for the games.
  • To play ISOs of game discs that you own that have been patched with a language translation or custom missions.

Is this a "first"? (-1, Offtopic)

JavaBear (9872) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940874)

5 posts and no on "First post"?

Not a great loss (0)

OeLeWaPpErKe (412765) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940886)

I'm not missing it

Re:Is this a "first"? (0)

somersault (912633) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941146)

We're far more mature than that here in the gaming section.

Don't forget! (3, Insightful)

Zaphod-AVA (471116) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940888)

Sony uses your money for things you hate. Fuck Sony.

Re:Don't forget! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35943244)

Sony uses your money for things you hate. Fuck Sony.

So does the American government.

Clamshells are back! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35940892)

Hooray.
I always thought that the clamshell was the best design for a portable device and never understood the appeal of all those slidey keyboard phones. Maybe enough people have had their shiny capacitive screens messed up that we can finally start returning to what we already knew was a superior design for something you carry in your pocket along with your keys.

Too bad... (5, Insightful)

Goboxer (1821502) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940910)

This looks neat. But there is no way in hell I am buying anything from Sony. They've probably rigged it so that three days after you buy it a circus clown pops out of and tries to stab you in the face.

Re:Too bad... (5, Funny)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940966)

This looks neat. But there is no way in hell I am buying anything from Sony. They've probably rigged it so that three days after you buy it a circus clown pops out of and tries to stab you in the face.

You're right. It would make a lovely gift.

Re:Too bad... (2)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942178)

I'm thinking some Sony executives could use a Christmas present...

Re:Too bad... (0)

LordLimecat (1103839) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941710)

You didnt read the manual, did you?

Re:Too bad... (1)

ThatMegathronDude (1189203) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942030)

Yeah, the clown is the first day. You don't want to know what comes on the second day.

Re:Too bad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35942416)

Nerd Rage is so amusing.

Re:Too bad... (1)

MercBoy (756722) | more than 3 years ago | (#35943534)

Best comment I've seen all day. Nearly lost my lunch...

Baaaaaad timing (2)

Dan East (318230) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940944)

In 2010, Sony launched a network platform called "Qriocity" which connects many of Sony's network-enabled devices, and has been expanding its services into global markets. Also, Sony Computer Entertainment has been providing various contents and services for PlayStation users through PlayStation®Network, which now has over 75 million registered accounts (as of March 20, 2011) worldwide.

Uh, I don't think I would've mentioned either of those things at this specific moment in time. (And yes, the press release is dated for today, the 26th).

Re:Baaaaaad timing (1)

JavaBear (9872) | more than 3 years ago | (#35940984)

I can only agree, considering that PSN have been down for about a week now. So technically PSN have 0 subscribers as of 21 April..

Re:Baaaaaad timing (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941468)

I can only agree, considering that PSN have been down for about a week now. So technically PSN have 0 subscribers as of 21 April..

Technically... it has zillions of subscribers to... nothing.

Re:Baaaaaad timing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35941894)

"Qriocity"

I miss good solid company names like "Networking Optimization Incorporated."

Qriocity? Gah.

droids in drones crashing into south hillarian sea (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35941070)

this fuel smells like the bat poop soup we made earlier, they said. damned whining native citizens switched the tanks before we were done feeding them, again. on to mebotuh. time to teach those armless whiners some religion, when we get back, with the stuff, we were sent to get, or leave.

Cue the knock-offs! (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941080)

So it's android based? Cool. This is more than a little surprising. I expect Sony not to use anything as open as android. (Okay, so they support Windows as an OS...) But where it comes to things like their PS1 games being supported on the device? Really? How do they plan to lock that down? I'm guessing a proprietary controller interface of some sort but maybe that is too simple.

Anyway, I look forward to the knock-offs and work-alike devices. Not getting a Sony here. I expect anything Sony puts out that is limited or controlled in some way will be worked around, hacked or fixed... and even if not? "...nothing of value was lost..."

Re:Cue the knock-offs! (1)

Scott64 (1181495) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942032)

Re: PS1 Support. Maybe they'll have a specific "Game OS" and use Android as an "Other OS". Then when people figure out how the game OS works, they'll remove the Other OS in a mandatory firmware upgrade and claim that they never sold the device as a general purpose computer; they sold it as a game console only.

Re:Cue the knock-offs! (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 3 years ago | (#35942452)

That would never happen in a million years! If Sony were to pull a stunt like that, everyone would hate them with such intensity that they simply couldn't stay in business long after that.

Me want.... (1)

beaverdownunder (1822050) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941108)

I want an S2 for Xmas Santa, kthxbai!

Some big names (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35941128)

Are finding the me too bandwagon is tougher than they thought... jump on at your own peril.

Dual screen (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35941190)

Dual screen tablet has done before by Toshiba (Libretto W100) and failed to catch on.

Tags (1, Redundant)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941196)

tagged: fucksony

How appropriate.

That's no innovation (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35941498)

And, given the way Sony has acted in the past years, F U C K Y O U S O N Y

Still 2 screens.... (1)

sunfly (1248694) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941562)

It still acts like two independent screens, call me when it unfolds to form one large screen. Besides its hardly the first, and I will never buy Sony again.

So... (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#35941822)

How much do they cost? This being Sony, I'm guessing 4 figures.

No thanks. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35941884)

What proprietary nonsense or anti-consumer behavior will THIS Sony product come with?

No Thanks.

Doesn't matter... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35942000)

It's from Sony. I want nothing to do with it!

Why yes. I do have freedom of choice.

Two lessons I've learned in life... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35942230)

1. Never stick your dick in crazy.
2. Never buy a Sony product.

I'm in the market for a tablet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35942484)

One that doesn't suck and isn't made by Sony, Apple, or Samsung. Needless to say I'll be passing on this one without even looking at the specs.

i'd love one of these, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35942756)

I refuse to buy anything from sony until they bring back OtherOS to my PS3 and stop treating me like a criminal.

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