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Google Pumps $6 Million Into Summer of Code 2011

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the will-you-be-my-mentor-today dept.

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darthcamaro writes "Google Summer of Code 2011 is now underway. Google is providing stipends for 1,116 students to mentor with 175 open source projects. In total, Google will be investing over $6 million dollars into Summer of Code 2011. There are a few project omissions this time around though. Neither Fedora nor Ubuntu have any students this year."

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Cheap investment (4, Insightful)

Elektroschock (659467) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947694)

When you consider how helpful this is for recruitment and winning the hearts and minds of the programming elite this program is actually cheap. I would recommend governments and supranational organisations to do the same.

Re:Cheap investment (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948366)

I pumped 6 inches into some hot asian pussy.

Re:Cheap investment (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949960)

cheap investment?

Re:Cheap investment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35949654)

You mean pay for people to play?

Really in the end, that's what reallying happening. No different from Big Banks making huge contributions to endowments for furthering the study of economic [policy].

Sure 1 or 2 things will come out of SoC that will be revolutionary, but look at the other cheaper alternatives... and the philosophy behind them.

Why not Google University? (2)

elucido (870205) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949776)

They have the money now to open their own online school. They can select the best coders and pay them to create valuable code under the GPL, they can also allow coders to contribute code in exchange for further education.

Re:Why not Google University? (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949964)

GPL = Google Payroll License

fucktards (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35947706)

And yet they reject my ajax-only website for adsense which makes a major contribution to humanity. Fucktards.

Re:fucktards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948912)

If I gave a damn about what I read here I'd mod you +5 insightful, and I don't even know what you're talking about.

Very generous stipend (5, Interesting)

Myji Humoz (1535565) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947716)

It's really amazing how a drop in the bucket (for Google) can encourage so much innovation and foster so much enthusiasm in the next generation of programmers.

The stipend averages out to $5376 per student, which will surely go a long way to paying for rent between semesters and then some.

I'm fully aware that programming has lower fixed costs than say, recombinant organism research or semiconductor development, but I can't help but wonder how many STEM students we could encourage by redirecting just 1% of the U.S. national defense budget. The gains of such projects really isn't in the end result (though they're nice), but rather in the skills, connections, and confidence that the work inspires.

Re:Very generous stipend (2)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947772)

While it may get your name on the big stage, isn't a ton of money. Normal internships I worked for my engineering degree started mid May, ended mid August. So lets say May 16 - August 19, which is 95 days [timeanddate.com] . You'll probably only work 5/7ths of those days or ~67 days, 8 hours a day for 536 hours.

Or around $10 an hour. Now, most certainly if you're good you can deliver it in much less time. But at the same time. $10/hour is what I made after my freshmen year in 2002. I think I was making around $19-20/hr by 2004 the year before my senior year.

That was for Mechanical Engineering. I'm not sure if paid internships for CS majors pay that much or if you even have internships like those in engineering. But to me, that just doesn't seem like a ton of money. But like I said, you do get your name forever etched into a project and on Google's website.

Re:Very generous stipend (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35947894)

CS interns make around $6-7k/month for a summer internship, depending on the location. I got $6600 in the Bay Area.

Re:Very generous stipend (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948036)

Yeah, its completely based on the location. $5376 would be extremely generous for someone working from a college town (Hell the semester fees at my grad school, UF, Gainesville, FL was less than $5000)

Re:Very generous stipend (1)

adolf (21054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35950778)

Depending on location, indeed. If I had an opportunity to make $6-7k/month over the summer, I'd be telling my day job to stuff it, sign a loan on a new BMW M3, and I'd stick with that "6-7k/month" internship forever.

But I'm in Ohio, not the SF Bay. YMMV.

Re:Very generous stipend (1, Informative)

theskipper (461997) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947856)

Common sense ideas like yours won't be possible until moderate Republicans take back the party.

Until then, science will remain a big juicy target for budget cuts.

This country is whistling past the graveyard when it comes to science and future economic prosperity.

Re:Very generous stipend (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948970)

Don't bet on the Repubs after they gut medicare for those scared, aging white folks; the people who tend to put Republicans in office. If you're waiting for the republicans of Lincoln you'd better start a third party. A real third party. If the Dems lose the WH in '12 it will only be for one term. If the country survives it.

Re:Very generous stipend (1)

whovian (107062) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949014)

Common sense ideas like yours won't be possible until moderate Republicans take back the party.

Sarcasm, or no? It was Republicans who advocated, passed, and then underfunded No Child Left Behind. The Democratic party is seeing fit to run with it though.

As I see it, every few years there are renewed pushes to get kids interested in the sciences to little apparent effect. US culture idolizes sports and entertainment while mocking geeks and scientists. Those who are qualified to work in science and reject the big incomes of finance cannot find corresponding work because foreigners are sought after to fill the positions.

Sorry, but the US is currently fscked in many ways.

Re:Very generous stipend (1)

theskipper (461997) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949154)

Good points and, no, sarcasm wasn't intended. Just that it takes two to tango.

There are moderates and extremists on both sides of the aisle. But when level-headed moderates are in the majority on both sides, things actually tend to get done in a rational fashion.

When one side is out of whack, like the Republicans these days, it's essentially hopeless. Then it's all about demagoguery, not progress.

Re:Very generous stipend (-1)

ErikZ (55491) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949506)

Moderates are the problem. Say for instance, I want the death penalty for people who drive over the speed limit.

You say that's ridiculous, you don't want anyone to die for driving over the speed limit.

Moderates push through a bill that calls for the death penalty of everyone going 25 over the speed limit.

And thus, the state grows and extends into all facets of our lives.

Re:Very generous stipend (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35950330)

Wow... that is just... wow.
I hope you were being sarcastic or ironic or something like that and I just missed the joke.

Re:Very generous stipend (2)

Tsingi (870990) | more than 3 years ago | (#35951374)

Wow... that is just... wow. I hope you were being sarcastic or ironic or something like that and I just missed the joke.

It's an exaggeration, but it's no joke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]

Re:Very generous stipend (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 3 years ago | (#35956290)

Republicrats and Demicans are not the solution to any problem. But neither are the people at the extremes. And for every (R) you don't like, I'm sure there is a (D) on the other side that is just as horrible that you ignore, because ... well you might like what they do MOST of the time (or visa versa if you're an (R).

And the (R) are out of whack because the (D) showed themselves out of Whack previously, passing the boondongle of HealthCare reform that does nothing to reform HealthCare other than to create yet another class of people dependent upon Government to provide for them. We've long since passed the days where the productive members of society can provide a "safety net" that has grown beyond original scope with the government version of feature creep.

And when you have the (D) party screaming (literally in some cases) that the fractional budget cut would cause MILLIONS to STARVE to DEATH ... THAT is what makes talk of budgets hopeless. Meanwhile we're leveraging our children to be slaves to China and the rest of the world because we don't have the discipline to say NO to increasing out debt beyond our ability to repay it.

Unfortunately we don't have enough people on either side of the isle to realize that we cannot sustain current spending on social programs and military. Instead we get new social programs and a new war.

Re:Very generous stipend (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948624)

"...but I can't help but wonder how many STEM students we could encourage by redirecting just 1% of the U.S. national defense budget"

1% of ~685 billion? Uh, yeah, $6.8 billion aught to be enough to fund a lot of STEM students, given that 1% of the defense budget is more than the entire budget of the NSF in 2010 (~$5.5 billion).

Re:Very generous stipend (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35951248)

This statistic needs to be advertised more. When you're spending 100 times more money on destroying the economy( war ) versus building a stronger economy( STEM ) you know you're screwed.

Re:Very generous stipend - Why GOOG's doing this (1)

Compaqt (1758360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949192)

What's in it for Google:

1. More open source software means more ability for young innovators to create cool new stuff on the Internet.

2. More cool new stuff on the Internet means people spend more time online.

3. The more time people spend online, the more likely they are to see an ad or click on it.

4. Profit!

Also, a side benefit is that M$ profit gets reduced because they have to fight side battles with a 101 open-source projects. This is asymmetrical warfare in that a small investment in open source can mean a huge loss to Microsoft.

Re:Very generous stipend - Why GOOG's doing this (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#35951750)

What's in it for Google:

1. More open source software means more ability for young innovators to create cool new stuff on the Internet.

2. More cool new stuff on the Internet means people spend more time online.

3. The more time people spend online, the more likely they are to see an ad or click on it.

4. Profit!

Also, a side benefit is that M$ profit gets reduced because they have to fight side battles with a 101 open-source projects. This is asymmetrical warfare in that a small investment in open source can mean a huge loss to Microsoft.

For most people, it is the content on the internet that is the cool stuff, whether it's accessed via open or closed source software is irrelevant.

Re:Very generous stipend - Why GOOG's doing this (1)

Compaqt (1758360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35952464)

No, what I'm talking about is that almost all of the cool web 2.0 (or 1.0) stuff is built with open source software.

If you're a bunch of college guys trying to come up with the Next Big Thing, it's very easy for you to cobble it together using LAMP for the platform, Postfix+Dovecot for email. To the extent that GIMP and Inkscape work well, you've got your graphics that you need to create for your website right there.

To the extent that such open source software is available, and it works well (the point of Summer of Code is to fix longstanding bugs, and extend features), young innovators are that much more able to realize their ideas.

It's not that site visitors care that someone used FOSS to make a site. It's that FOSS allows more people to make sites. More sites, more ads.

Take, say mxtoolbox.com, which I found out about the other day. What do they have on every page? Google Ads.

Re:Very generous stipend (1)

trawg (308495) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949274)

The stipend averages out to $5376 per student, which will surely go a long way to paying for rent between semesters and then some.

Not to mention the incalculable benefit of all that new open source code they're contributing to.

The Summer of Code is probably my favourite thing about Google. Such a great example of corporate marketing!

Re:Very generous stipend (1)

lee1026 (876806) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949894)

When I was in college a few years back, almost every prof was working on research products for the military. This means that the military is effectively paying stipends to a small army of grad students. When you add in things like the research that Lockheed and the such are doing (and funding), the military is in fact doing exactly what you are suggesting what it does. Most of the cost of all of those high end weapons is R&D, and when you get down to it, R&D dollars is paying some grad student somewhere to sit down and do research.

Re:Very generous stipend (1)

polymeris (902231) | more than 3 years ago | (#35954626)

The stipend averages out to $5376 per student,

It's $5500 per student: 5000 for the student plus 500 for the mentor. TFA does not consider that some students may drop out, so they don't actually know yet how much the average student will get.

Both Fedora and Ubuntu will reap benefits (2)

dwheeler (321049) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947724)

Both Fedora and Ubuntu will reap benefits, because they will end up packaging many of the results. But even more importantly, people around the world will reap the benefits. Not only immediately (from these projects), but even more importantly, but also from all the amazing work these developers will do in the years ahead because they they learned how to collaboratively develop software. Good job.

Re:Both Fedora and Ubuntu will reap benefits (1)

theolein (316044) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948608)

FTT: "Neither Fedora nor Ubuntu have any students this year."

Seems like Google thinks Unity sucks as well. :P

Re:Both Fedora and Ubuntu will reap benefits (1)

EvanED (569694) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948646)

Besides, it's not quite right. While Ubuntu doesn't have any, Fedora has 6 projects.

Re:Both Fedora and Ubuntu will reap benefits (2)

Dr_Barnowl (709838) | more than 3 years ago | (#35951626)

Debian has 9 projects. As a Debian derivative, Ubuntu will benefit.

At least one of them is being mentored by Canonical / Ubuntu (Matt Zimmerman, the Ubuntu CTO).

The Slashdot Perspective (1)

Nukedoom (1776114) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947728)

Yea, yea, yea. But what about those other people that aren't doing anything to help this project? Like the government...or my grandma? They need to get their shit together. Seriously.

No. The Real Slashdot Perspective (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948032)

It's not Apple. So it's just meh.

With are due respect... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948918)

to your grandma, send her this link and tell her to get turning out some code. Gnome needs help :-P

http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

Conspicuously missing (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947818)

Conspicuously missing ... Android. Sure, a couple of apps but nothing on a system level.

Re:Conspicuously missing (1)

WorBlux (1751716) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947898)

Why would they pay themselves to hire an intern when they can just hire an intern?

Re:Conspicuously missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948308)

They've also said they have no more plans for the Android Developer Challenge. Honestly (IMO) they have been severely lacking in dev support lately

Re:Conspicuously missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948930)

You seem to be mistaking Android for an Open Source project that is developed collaboratively.

Best thing about Google (2)

danbuter (2019760) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947864)

Supporting the Summer of Code is my favorite aspect of the Google Corporation. They help young guys learn real programming and also improve lots of open source projects. It would be great if other big companies also did this, but after so many years, I doubt it will happen.

Some of those are uh.. lame (1)

phantomcircuit (938963) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947884)

For example this one is lame [google-melange.com]

ldd + equery belongs and some bash glue would do that.

Re:Some of those are uh.. lame (1)

phantomcircuit (938963) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947950)

And in case anybody doubts the lameness of this specific project, behold

find . -type f -executable -exec ldd {} \; | grep -vF "not a dynamic executable" | cut -f 1 -d " " | xargs equery belongs

can i haz stipend?

Re:Some of those are uh.. lame (1)

badboy_tw2002 (524611) | more than 3 years ago | (#35947996)

How is that an "auto dependency builder"? Bad link?

Re:Some of those are uh.. lame (1)

phantomcircuit (938963) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948072)

That will tell you the packages for which an already build (in the current directory) depends as configured. The step of generating the ebuild is trivial from there.

Re:Some of those are uh.. lame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948018)

my equery-fu is a bit out of date, but won't that only return deps already installed on your system and return blank from equery on non-installed ones?

Re:Some of those are uh.. lame (1)

phantomcircuit (938963) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948098)

You'd run this in a project directory which you have built from source, try it.

Re:Some of those are uh.. lame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948174)

Ahh, we're reading the summary differently. I read it as a project to remove the developers need to manually list deps. (on emerge auto generate deps list from the source), not generate a list for the developers to add to the ebuild. (I have my local ebuild repo and your way is basically how i already generate my dep lists, I would assume most other ebuild devs do the same.)

Re:Some of those are uh.. lame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948000)

RPM in Fedora already does this automatically. Maybe Ubuntu and Fedora didn't get GSoC projects for a reason.

Re:Some of those are uh.. lame (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948080)

how do you intend to run LDD on something before it's compiled, when you can't compile it without the deps?

5 millions for the seti (3, Interesting)

bubulubugoth (896803) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948030)

Wouldn't be nice if Google pumped 5 millions to keep the seti@home working for 2 years more? They pump 6 millions for a small and local event...

Re:5 millions for the seti (1)

Zerimar (1124785) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948124)

No, it wouldn't be nice. It would be $5 million wasted on SETI@Home.

Re:5 millions for the seti (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948178)

I would like to see $5 million spent on stopping SETI@home and reclaiming all those wasted cycles around the world

Re:5 millions for the seti (1)

Thing 1 (178996) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948636)

Exactly. My former coworker might still have a job, if not for that... (Well, also his stupidity in thinking that "his work server" was really "his machine".)

Re:5 millions for the seti (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#35952248)

Exactly. My former coworker might still have a job, if not for that... (Well, also his stupidity in thinking that "his work server" was really "his machine".)

I don't think it's entirely fair to blame SETI for your former coworker being retarded.

Re:5 millions for the seti (1, Insightful)

Ruke (857276) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948378)

I don't mean to sound harsh, but has SETI produced any results that might justify further funding it? I understand the "it's cool!" factor, and I understand that we don't really expect to find alien civilizations every day, and I understand how important of a discovery it would be if we did discover intelligent extraterrestrial life... however, I also think that, given $5 million, we'll see far greater returns on investing that money in Summer of Code than we would supporting SETI. The expected results from SoC are clearly expressed for every one of the thousand programmers. What would investing in SETI get us, beyond, "Well, we'll keep looking, I guess."

Re:5 millions for the seti (2)

braindrainbahrain (874202) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949510)

Two of the GSOC projects this year were for the SETI Institute [seti.org] . Apparently, the SETI Institute proposed 5 projects, but only 2 of them were funded.

Re:5 millions for the seti (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#35952276)

Two of the GSOC projects this year were for the SETI Institute [seti.org] . Apparently, the SETI Institute proposed 5 projects, but only 2 of them were funded.

I would guess that at least one off them was a project "to develop an algorithm capable of producing a fictitious but convincing pattern out of vast amounts of random data in order to justify further funding for the SETI project".

What's the point when maintainers ignore your work (5, Interesting)

gumpish (682245) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948050)

Code written to allow per-workspace wallpaper in GNOME as part of a Summer of Code 2008 project:

http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/ [jsharpe.net]

Result?

Ignored by GNOME.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543596 [gnome.org]

Thanks, GNOME.
Thanks, Søren Sandmann.

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (2)

spikeb (966663) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948172)

GNOME ignores anything that doesn't come from the select few entrenched bastards within the project. Doesn't make it the rule for all projects, though.

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (1)

macshit (157376) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948778)

If it depended on mono I'll bet they would have added it...
:[

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 3 years ago | (#35950602)

It's in their right, but then why bother with GSoC at all, if you're not going to use the results of it? When people come and see tasks posted by various projects, they kinda assume that those tasks are actually meaningful, and not just a waste of time.

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948514)

It's open source. Nothing stops you from making a modified version / fork. If it's more liked than the original, you might gain some hefty power, as people will pull their version of it from *you*.
I'd support you right away, and we could even set up a small micropayment site to generate monetary motivation. :)

Or just go to the distribution makers directly.
Red Hat, Debian, Gentoo, and Suse should cover most. If you have a patch, it takes me 15 minutes to add it to the Gentoo ebuild, put that in a Gentoo Bugzilla bug, and tell a maintainer to put it in the repository. :)

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (1)

ToasterMonkey (467067) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948572)

Code written to allow per-workspace wallpaper in GNOME as part of a Summer of Code 2008 project:

http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/ [jsharpe.net]

Result?

Ignored by GNOME.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543596 [gnome.org]

Thanks, GNOME.
Thanks, SÃren Sandmann.

Never mind GNOME, why would Google be paying for that??

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (2)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 3 years ago | (#35951330)

Google doesn't pick the projects. Google picks the organisations, and they pick the projects. Over the last few years, there has been an increasing trend towards picking large umbrella groups (e.g. KDE, GNU), so Google is two layers of management away from the actual decision.

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948686)

Piss on GNOME, apparently there is a working patch for per-workspace wallpaper in Compiz now. So now you can use it with any compiz-compatible WM if you have a halfway decent GPU...

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35950370)

Which rules out both my laptops for having Intel and VIA GPU's.

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35951460)

I share your pain because all three of my laptops suck, but that doesn't mean you and I didn't make unintelligent purchasing decisions.

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35954212)

Works on Windows....

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35951908)

Radeon x600 here
Fuck your 'use compiz' advice

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35955018)

So basically it only works with Unity or the old GNOME 2 environment.

Re:What's the point when maintainers ignore your w (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35949234)

why do you think Canonical started Unity, Gnome is an old boys club

Fedora's got 6 projects (4, Informative)

Nushio (951488) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948054)

Look for them under "The Fedora Project".
Sudo support for SSSD.
Robotics Suite
Fedora Medical Packages
Revert to Snapshot for Ext4
KDE Plasma Dependency and
Fedora Events System

Disclaimer: I'm the mentor for the Fedora Events System :P

why don't users get some of the google cash (5, Funny)

cinnamon colbert (732724) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948070)

if you look at google, facebook, linkedin, etc, it is we - the users - who make them rich.
I think 50%, gross, of the IPO should be given to charity, with charitys chosen by the users.

Re:why don't users get some of the google cash (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948616)

Why don't you start your massive search engine / advertising website and do that then?

Re:why don't users get some of the google cash (2)

Thing 1 (178996) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948644)

if you look at google, facebook, linkedin, etc, it is we - the users - who make them rich. I think 50%, gross, of the IPO should be given to charity, with charitys chosen by the users.

Yeah, and I vote all your money into my wallet. Neither are likely.

Re:why don't users get some of the google cash (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#35952648)

if you look at google, facebook, linkedin, etc, it is we - the users - who make them rich. I think 50%, gross, of the IPO should be given to charity, with charitys chosen by the users.

Yeah, and I vote all your money into my wallet. Neither are likely.

Finding a selfless, moral, sane, witty and wise poster on slashdot isn't likely either, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice.

Re:why don't users get some of the google cash (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35949674)

Yeah, and I think the same thing about grocery stores, oil companies, and whatever you do for a living. These are corporations and they exist to make money for people. Those people can then choose to donate or invest our throw wild orgy coke parties, our whatever the hell they want to do with their money.

Re:why don't users get some of the google cash (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35949692)

Cause it's *Google's* summer of code.

Not Google's user summer of code or a donation to the FOSS community.

Don't like it, join some gnu project.

Re:why don't users get some of the google cash (2)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35950378)

You mean they get rich because we use their products?
My god! It's unheard of in the world of business!

Re:why don't users get some of the google cash (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 3 years ago | (#35952676)

You mean they get rich because we use their products? My god! It's unheard of in the world of business!

Yeah, it's good that you're seeing the bigger picture, moron. What is it with all the "greed is good" weenies now taking over slashdot, the internet and the world?

Re:why don't users get some of the google cash (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35956062)

This has nothing to do with "good" or "evil".
It has to do with the basic fact that businesses exist in order to make money.
If it's not supposed to make money, it's called a "non-profit".
There simply isn't any bigger picture than that besides the one you've made up in your own head.

We've tried several times... (3, Interesting)

pongo000 (97357) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948084)

...to get onboard, but have been rejected each time. The amount of detail that Google requires for its application is just mind-boggling. More mind-boggling is the selection process that seems to favor established projects with large developer bases that really aren't in need of extra help. Good luck getting on the SoC bandwagon if you're a small (but established) open software project.

Re:We've tried several times... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35948146)

Many small but established open source projects enrolled in SoC this year just fine. They didn't get many slots, but they got their feet in the door. When I filled out my org's application, it took like 30 minutes. It wasn't hard at all..

Re:We've tried several times... (2)

rryan (1943214) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948190)

Proof by contradiction. Mixxx (http://mixxx.org) has probably 2-5 active developers and we've received 3 or 4 students every year since the beginning of the SOC. I've been to the GSoC mentor summit as well and there are plenty of small sized projects. In fact, this year they focused on accepting more smaller projects via the 'referral' system whereby projects could refer other small projects that would be a good fit for the SOC.

Re:We've tried several times... (1)

karlm (158591) | more than 3 years ago | (#35949078)

That's an existence proof, not proof by contradiction.

Re:We've tried several times... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35950342)

A disproof

Re:We've tried several times... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35951986)

And what he really meant was "counter-example."

Re:We've tried several times... (1)

mmsimanga (775213) | more than 3 years ago | (#35950530)

Considering that Sourceforge.net alone hosts "over 260 000 projects" one cannot be faulted for deducing that perhaps they do receive a large number of applications. I would wager they try select projects which will most "benefit mankind". All subjective off course but show me a process that is perfect. Good luck next year.

Re:We've tried several times... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35952468)

Do they require proof that you know how to implement a DELETE function? Because Google, itself, doesnt seem to know how to implement deleting things.

TFA inaccuracy: Fedora is participating (2)

krkhan (1071096) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948096)

I was surprised to read that Fedora didn't have any students this year (after all, my proposal for Fedora was accepted but I chose Tor in the de-duplication process). As it turns out, Fedora actually has six projects this year. The full list of accepted projects is available here [google-melange.com] .

Thank You, Google! (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948748)

see subject.

Re:Thank You, Google! (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 3 years ago | (#35948846)

see subject.

I see no subject, just a verb and an object.

Fedora (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35949608)

Did you even look? They are under "The Fedora Project" organization and we have 6 students this year from GSoC and several more as our own interns.

this article isn't correct (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35950844)

Fedora does have some projects in GSOC 2011 -

SUDO support in SSSD
The Fedora Project

Revert to snapshot feature in Ext4 file system
The Fedora Project

KDE Plasma Dependency Generation and PackageKit Integration
The Fedora Project

Fedora Events System
The Fedora Project

Fedora Medical
The Fedora Project

Educational Application for Fedora Robotics Suite
The Fedora Project ..an Ubuntu...well, they'll benefit from the range of projects that Debian have in this years summer of code

guess the poster wanted to be the first with slashdot article rather than be correct :-(

Maybe They'll Learn What a Delete Function Is? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35952336)

I doubt they'll figure out how to implement a delete function. As of 2011, you still can not delete a google product from your good account. Doesnt matter if you looked at that product in curiosity, and never actually used it -OR- even if you did use it and determined it sucked (Voice and Buzz for example), you cant get rid of it.

So hopefully they'll use that money wisely and learn how to delete things.

Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35952432)

That's a lot of money and a lot of projects for only 1.116 student.

What does 0.116 student mean? Does he have a third arm or something? That would explain the ability to do 175 projects at once.

Useless? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35956212)

In a recent talk with Stuart Feldman (author of Make and Google engineering vice-president), he commented that Google does not expect any useful result to come out of Google Summer of Code. He also commented the company thinks of the program as a mere exercise.

Personally, I think it is fairly obvious Google Summer of Code is, as already mentioned, a program to win the charisma of elite programmers. I wonder, however, how these elite programmers, people who usually strive to perfect their craft, would react to such a comment.

Pumps 6M$?! (1)

SpaghettiPattern (609814) | more than 3 years ago | (#35957394)

Pumps 6M$?! Google may perhaps accidentally spill 6 M$.
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