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DirecTV Plans Netflix Competitor

samzenpus posted more than 3 years ago | from the getting-in-the-stream dept.

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jfruhlinger writes "DirecTV isn't sitting still in the long-simmering war between traditional TV providers and digital streaming services. A survey the satellite network sent to customers this week indicates that it may be planning a streaming service of its own."

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anonymous coward plans first post competitor (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959408)

Imagine a guy stretching his asshole.

Re:anonymous coward plans first post competitor (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959428)

u r a faget

Re:anonymous coward plans first post competitor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959698)

looking for a date?

Let's see who waste mod points on this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959754)

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Re:anonymous coward plans first post competitor (1)

obergfellja (947995) | more than 3 years ago | (#35961790)

Kermet the frog?

Of course it is. (0)

capnal (795722) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959410)

Of course it is.

Re:Of course it is. (3, Interesting)

quiet down (1795010) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959462)

Well, the market for video media is changing. If they didn't do this or come up with something that raised the competitive bar dramatically, they would just be left in the dust. Whether this is a good or bad thing is another matter. It could cause Netflix to expand its selection - which it really needs to do, it's way to small even at this point - or it may just as easily cut the market for this kind of thing into smaller sections - for example, Netflix having a monopoly over Disney movies or something of the sort.

Re:Of course it is. (3, Interesting)

thynk (653762) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959574)

The problem, as I see it, is that they will include this service as an add on rather than an "instead of" service. I dropped DirecTV this past week because for $110 less a month I can get every show I watch on netflix, hulu plus and TED.

Re:Of course it is. (3, Informative)

tivoKlr (659818) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959650)

The problem, as I see it, is that they will include this service as an add on rather than an "instead of" service.

I think the limiting factor here is just that, that DirecTV is developing this product as an addition to their standard satellite package, rather than as a unique product, and as such are reducing the pool of potential viewers to only their current client base. Netflix is alternate entertainment provider agnostic and given the way DirecTV nickels and dimes you on EVERYTHING, somehow I doubt this will be cheaper than Netflix's offering.

Good luck DTV...

I dropped DirecTV this past week because for $110 less a month I can get every show I watch on netflix, hulu plus and TED.

I wish I was in your position. I need my football and hockey, and I want them in real HD at this point to appreciate them. I so want this DirecTV box out of my house, but as I live in a broadcast TV "white zone" which means I don't get any reception AT ALL, I am shackled to DTV, Dish or god forbid, Comcast if I want to watch the NHL and NFL.

Need? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959690)

Why do you "need" to sit around watching overpaid strangers chuck a little ball around?

Re:Need? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959706)

Why do you need to suck cock?

Re:Need? (1)

hawguy (1600213) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959806)

Why do you need to suck cock?

Because it keeps my boyfriend from being so bitchy?

Re:Need? (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960702)

You know, this is one thing I NEVER understood: Why is it considered manly or straight to watch a bunch of muscled up guys, wearing skin tight outfits, with close ups of their asses on every play, and to top it off they pat each other on the ass a hell of a lot? Maybe if you're female but it would seem to me all that homoerotisism would be...welll gay.

As for TFA I doubt Netflix will have anything to worry about. DTV is already crazy priced and nickel and dimes like mad, I doubt their greed will keep this from being anything but another also ran.

Re:Need? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35963042)

You know, this is one thing I NEVER understood: Why is it considered manly or straight to watch a bunch of muscled up guys, wearing skin tight outfits, with close ups of their asses on every play, and to top it off they pat each other on the ass a hell of a lot? Maybe if you're female but it would seem to me all that homoerotisism would be...welll gay.

You know, this is the one thing I never understood: most geek's complete inability to see the forest for the trees. It's about physical competition. The supposed 'homoeroticism' you see tells us more about you than the sport.

Now stop being such a damn overanalyitical wimp and go play a sport like your father probably always wanted you to. If you had ever tried it once, you would get it. And then you might enjoy watching such competitions. A good sport to start (for a geek, such as myself) with is Fencing - focus on agility, speed, and individual skill that is hard to master.

Re:Need? (1)

FunkSoulBrother (140893) | more than 3 years ago | (#35964650)

Because he isn't a sociopath, and enjoys shared experiences with fellow human beings.

Re:Of course it is. (1)

hawguy (1600213) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959814)

I think the limiting factor here is just that, that DirecTV is developing this product as an addition to their standard satellite package, rather than as a unique product, and as such are reducing the pool of potential viewers to only their current client base. Netflix is alternate entertainment provider agnostic and given the way DirecTV nickels and dimes you on EVERYTHING, somehow I doubt this will be cheaper than Netflix's offering.

That may limit their potential market size but may also mean they can get more content - content owners won't be as afraid to license their content because they won't be so worried about cannibalizing their broadcast markets since they know that DirecTV customers are already paying to receive broadcast content.

I don't care if Pres. Sambo was born in HI (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959860)

He's still doing a terrible job. He's a spineless POS. If it wasn't for the starch in his shirt, he would flop forward over his teleprompter.

Re:Of course it is. (1)

mu51c10rd (187182) | more than 3 years ago | (#35962378)

Football and hockey?

Have you looked here [yahoo.com] and here [roku.com] ? There is hope to cut the DTV...

Re:Of course it is. (1)

krull (48492) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960138)

The problem as I see it is that this service will probably have the same crummy collection of old and/or b-movies and tv series that Netflix has...

Re:Of course it is. (1)

Phoghat (1288088) | more than 3 years ago | (#35972886)

netflix, hulu plus and TED.

Oh my!

Not if you're living in farking Mexico. Netflix, you're in Canada, go global just a little more, down South for example!

Re:Of course it is. (1)

thynk (653762) | more than 3 years ago | (#35973096)

Oh my!

Not if you're living in farking Mexico. Netflix, you're in Canada, go global just a little more, down South for example!

I guess none of the work around/hacks for watching netflix overseas work in Canada or Mexico. Really, if those really don't work, then you'd be stuck with TED, or another torrent searching program like TV Trigger, or sickbeard, or one of many others.

Re:Of course it is. (2)

toastar (573882) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959578)

ohh I like Mad-Libs

_________ is planning Netflix Competitor

and there goes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959418)

the rest of the available global bandwidth....

captcha: prophecy

Re:and there goes (1)

kvvbassboy (2010962) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959460)

Only USA. Not global. :(

I hope youtube comes through.

Re:and there goes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959512)

OMG does this mean if we flood the internet, the pipes will overflow and soon burst?! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO.

Re:and there goes (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959816)

Lower bandwidth caps. Problem solved.

Unless the streaming service has live sports (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959420)

Then they may as well forget it

Ugh... (2)

matt. (10314) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959478)

I'm stuck with Wildblue as my ISP and seeing that I can barely stream anything from Hulu or Netflix without having to pause the show every 3 minutes or so to buffer I doubt that having another dish and paying another $70 a month for DirecTV is going make much of a difference.

Please bring real broadband to us poor rural folk! I like the 20minute drive to my mailbox (not that there is anything in it...) but I do not like the 8-16kB/s connection with random bursts up to 60kB/s.

Re:Ugh... (1)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959572)

The fact that it takes you 20 minutes to get to your mailbox just might have something to do with why you don't have decent broadband. That's 15 miles at 45 MPH.

Re:Ugh... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959680)

Please bring real broadband to us poor rural folk! I like the 20minute drive to my mailbox (not that there is anything in it...)

"Please make everyone else subsidize real broadband to us poor rural folk."

Fixed that for you. I'm sure you could have nice broadband if you paid the cost of 15 miles of fiber yourself.

Re:Ugh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959876)

Fiber, why fiber, microwave radio relay system makes much more sense in the wild. Even something as old as channelized E1 would far better suit rural areas since you can do drop-down in the radio.

Re:Ugh... (1)

Xeranar (2029624) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960204)

Coming from an AC is kind of ironic. We as a society subsidize most everything especially broadband service to anybody beyond compact suburbia. If you lived any stretch away from a major city in an exurb you wouldn't have service either. So I think some of this attitude needs to be knocked off. Everybody should have access to the fastest internet possible and it should be government regulated to keep the cost down while offering the maximum in freedom.

Re:Ugh... (1)

mattack2 (1165421) | more than 3 years ago | (#35969930)

Why should *I* have to pay for someone in the middle of nowhere to be able to stream !@$ Netflix movies?

Move to a city if you want faster Internet.

For electricity or phone service, I would agree (that having a minimum level of service should be required).

Even some level of Internet service, but that would probably be fulfilled by the phone requirement (e.g. I'd say email should be required, but again, not broadband so you can get netflix).

Re:Ugh... (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959964)

Get satellite

I have a co-worker with satellite in the boonies like you and he gets great downstream- slow upstream for about $70 a month.

Re:Ugh... (1)

tweak13 (1171627) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960084)

Get satellite

What do you think Wildblue [wildblue.com] is?

Satellite internet is crap. There just isn't enough bandwidth available to get decent speeds out of it, not to mention the horrid latency.

Re:Ugh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35960344)

Do a google search for ViaSat-1...over 100 Gbps of satellite bandwidth.

Re:Ugh... (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 3 years ago | (#35962832)

My bad. "I'm stuck with XXXX" lead me to think it was a land line situation. You are never stuck with a particular satellite company. They can't take the sky away from you. There are other satellite companies.

Perhaps they mean, I am only willing to spend $50 a month and not $90 a month so I am stuck with this crappy company or "I signed an 85 year contract so I am stuck with this company".

Re:Ugh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35961186)

The problem with satellite is netflix can't stream to a satellite connection, I have one and can't get netflix. It may have something to do with not having a static IP address which costs extra from Hughesnet.

Missing the point (4, Insightful)

getto man d (619850) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959486)

It's not just streaming; a reliable mail service that allows me to watch many of the movies I enjoy is worth the monthly fee.

Re:Missing the point (1)

awfar (211405) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959660)

Exactly. And streaming is wide open for abuse from adding commercials, pop-ups, and junk on the bottom. While admittedly a bit paranoid*, it creeps me out when DirecTv collects viewing stats from my receiver, which is why I now keep it disconnected from the telecom and net. This surely prevents using Directv streaming. At least Netflix doesn't use viewing statistics to target me commercially. Yet.
*If their data collection was used to provide us a better viewing experience, I would participate. But if it was being used that way, they would have already marginalized the scads of ridiculous ad channels that I already don't watch, automatically. Kicking them to the curb. But all they seem to do is add more as revenue streams. i.e., they aren't doing me any favors.

Re:Missing the point (1)

MillerHighLife21 (876240) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960242)

Not really. Streaming is huge and DTV has access to provide on demand service, premium new releases AND streaming old movies if they do it properly. DTV is a pretty tech savvy company. I'm a customer and I've always been very impressed by their web experience, quality, and support. If they did it, I'd be shocked if it wasn't done well.

Re:Missing the point (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 3 years ago | (#35962268)

...and not-streaming is even more huge.

It represents a level of selection that other competitors are unwilling or unable to match.

It's insulated from most of the pricing and availability issues that plague streaming. Spinny disks allow an operation like RedBox or Netflix to fall back on the retail distribution channel if they find wholesale channels blocked by beligerent content owners. It is still more than sufficiently profitable (unlike say Dell trying the same thing).

Re:Missing the point (1)

vaporland (713337) | more than 3 years ago | (#35971506)

It's also customer service. Satellite and cable customer support are consistently ranked at the bottom of satisfaction ratings.

Given this and the ubitiquity of Netflix's service, I don't see DirecTV eclipsing them any time soon.

Streaming Services (0)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959498)

Are like excuses. Everybody has one.

OnDemand == Netflix ? (1)

orangebox (1997192) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959520)

DirectTV is going to be offering an On Demand service to its subscribers. That service has been around for years, and Netflix didn't start it. Just that Netflix is the first that I know of that provided the service without being the community cable company.

Re:OnDemand == Netflix ? (1)

PRMan (959735) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959682)

DirecTV ALREADY IS offering an On Demand service to its subscribers. That service has been around for years, and Netflix didn't start it. Just that Netflix is the first that I know of that provided the service without being the community cable company.

Re:OnDemand == Netflix ? (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959976)

I'm a subscriber.. paying $84 bucks a month.
I don't get it. I'm not offered it. It would be free if I was a NEW customer joining.
Pisses me off.

And it's only 6,000 titles.

AND this is the first step of there being 15 difference services, each of which has a tiny slice of content locked up and each charges $8 bucks.

Plus commercials in the middle of streamed shows I bet.

Netflix is awesome as it is. Part of that is because there was no competition for content in it's market slice.

Re:OnDemand == Netflix ? (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960110)

Same as when Dish came out with free HD, DirecTV was only willing to extend that to new customers, pissing off those that have been subscribing. I can't blame them as nobody in their right mind will go back to Comcrap after having satellite service, the worst outcome for DirecTV would be folks switching to Dish or dumping their pay TV completely.

Re:OnDemand == Netflix ? (1)

cmfrolick (1022293) | more than 3 years ago | (#35961306)

If you are willing to go to automatic payments they will waive the HD Access Fee for two years, which should match the requirements for free HD on DISH. You just have to call them and ask for it.

The have actual satellites (3, Interesting)

submain (856941) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959524)

The main difference of netflix and DirecTV is that DirecTV might as well use your ISPs internet for upload only. They already have an entire satellite system, and I wouldn't be surprised if they used that to stream their movies to a receiver, instead of using crowded ISP pipes, bypassing ISPs stupid caps. If that indeed happens, it will be definitely a game changer.

Re:The have actual satellites (2)

ChrisMaple (607946) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959614)

I suspect that DirecTV is already using all the bandwidth they have, and if they don't launch new satellites they're going to have to drop a whole lot of stuff. On demand streaming for millions of users, all asking for different content, requires an astounding amount of bandwidth.

Re:The have actual satellites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959916)

Not when you are using a satellite. You can use one channel to multicast whatever you want. It will not be instant on-demand, but it is still on demand - you tell your sat DVR what you want to watch, in several hours it will be multicasted, the DVR will save it to it's local drive and you could watch it tomorrow.

Back in the days, I think 1998, or 1999 Europe online was providing satellite internet service, and there was an option to send a request for a large file to a special proxy, that will then stream that file later to an app running on your machine, even if you cut the modem upstream connection down. It is a no brainier solution for satellites, just it is not instant, but it is still on demand.

Re:The have actual satellites (1)

DarthBart (640519) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959944)

That won't work for "Instant Gratification America". If I want to watch a movie, I want it now. Not tomorrow. Not a few hours from now.

Re:The have actual satellites (1)

zonky (1153039) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959968)

Sky does this. They pre-seed your DVR with a range of movies you can watch on demand - i.e, they're already been downloaded, before you pay.

Re:The have actual satellites (2)

DarthBart (640519) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959936)

Except the ol' Clarke belt is getting damn crowded these days. You can't just launch a shit load of satellites up there and then expect an 18" DBS dish to be able to tell them apart.

Re:The have actual satellites (2)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960120)

Tell me about it. I was watching an 18" by 40" "Cleopatra' in the middle of my 55" screen on Direct TV and it was STILL visibly pixelated from 15' away on the couch.

They have way over-compressed the signal. It's just not worth it. I've been considering canceling it for about 3 months now.

Spaceway 1 has a lot of free flex spot beam room (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960178)

Spaceway 1 has a lot of free flex spot beam room.

Re:The have actual satellites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35961840)

I suspect that DirecTV is already using all the bandwidth they have, and if they don't launch new satellites they're going to have to drop a whole lot of stuff. On demand streaming for millions of users, all asking for different content, requires an astounding amount of bandwidth.

Not surprisingly, none of the responses to your posts brings up this very important point -- DirecTV already does On Demand over the internet, and has been for several years.

Re:The have actual satellites (2)

Ed Peepers (1051144) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959630)

Sounds good in theory, but it won't be a game changer because DirectTV's satellite internet access is simply pathetic. My in-laws live in a rural area and it's their only alternative to dial-up. After the first 3 to 5 minutes of use, the speed plummets and is only marginally better than 56k.

Re:The have actual satellites (2)

PRMan (959735) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959668)

DirecTV already does OnDemand through the internet.

I've got a crazy idea. (3, Interesting)

Hohlraum (135212) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959538)

How about charging $1 for PPV movies instead of $4-6. There you go. Now ya don't have to waste a bunch of money on a service that is going to fail.

Re:I've got a crazy idea. (1)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960404)

That's actually a very good idea. When a video-on-demand rental is 24 hours generally with cablecos, pricing them at a dollar would make them competitive with RedBox, and they would be more convenient since you wouldn't have to actually drive to a kiosk to get a DVD.

Re:I've got a crazy idea. (1)

jd2112 (1535857) | more than 3 years ago | (#35963570)

Actually they are going the other way and charging $30 for movies that are near the end of their theatrical run but not quite ready for home video release. It might be worth it if they were available at the same time as the theatrical release (for those of us with families anyway.) but I can't see spending that much when waiting a few weeks brings it down to a $3-$4 video rental and a few more a $1 redbox rental.

In fairness (3, Interesting)

Voyager529 (1363959) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959552)

DirecTV has something in their favor over Netflix: a set of pipes. Satellite internet is AFAIK still expensive and inherently very high latency (Counterstrike players, day traders, and VoIP users need not apply; you'll never see a two-digit ping), but it's an option that would be especially lucrative in rural areas where dial-up or wireless tethering are the only options. They've already got the backhaul circling the globe, so it's really a matter of whether they can match Comcast/Time Warner/Cablevision + Netflix subscription at the price point. On top of that, they've already got enough pull in Hollywood for their garden variety broadcast licensing. It'd be separate of course, but they've got the precedent. If they can ensure that the service can scale while keeping the prices competitive with the other guys without having to deal with the bandwidth caps, then they could actually be a serious threat to the present system for large groups of people.

Change is inevitable (1)

networkzombie (921324) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959584)

Even if the service is crap it will spur a flurry of streaming services from other media giants. Choice is good. This is the end of TV as we know it.

Predictions about the service (4, Insightful)

hinesbrad (1923872) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959678)

1) It will be wildly overpriced relative to its rivals 2) It will be slower and attached as an add-on to already crappy HDD based DVR's that are slow, buggy, and break constantly yet I have to pay to fix/replace them 3) There will be a bandwidth and viewer cap per show, 4) It will have commercials added in while I browse to subsidize revenue 5) The content will be ancient and I won't actually want to see it 6) They will adapt an iTunes/Pay-Per-View model on content that is free on other providers instead of an all-you-can-stream model, PLUS they will play the cutsie auto-delete game on content I paid for after a certain time, a-la Pay-Per-View. 7) It will be a raving pain in the ass to find anything as the remote will most certainly lack a qwerty input because YOU ARE CHEAP 8) Half of the content will be Programming in A Foreign language, Dogmatic religion channels, and there will be a curious absence of indy, YouTube and non-commercial studio content. 9) I will be restricted on the number of episodes I can 'save' or view at one time. 10) I'm more likely to get a high Def video faster from a torrent source than I am a directTV service 11) You will force me to purchase crap channels/content/HD services I don't want to access this service 12) The content that is available won't be the complete catalog of a series. I will be the last 5 episodes plus ancient episodes a la Hulu. 13) You will disable fast-forward through commercials in downloaded content to boost your revenue streams. DirectTV: I'd rather have a pineapple forcibly shoved up my ass and spun around at 4000 RPM's than have your filth clogging the one last refuge of free speech and innovation in the world. Your installation franchisees are awful. Your internet service sucks. You hold content providers hostage. Your DVR's are crap. I really hope Netflix comes and knocks you on your ass...

Re:Predictions about the service (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959738)

Enough with the sugar coating, just tell us how you really feel.

Re:Predictions about the service (1)

hinesbrad (1923872) | more than 3 years ago | (#35970608)

I also hate their logo and obvious Religious appeal. "Someone up their loves you, DirectTV". Crap. Total Crap. ;-)

Hello, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959752)

I would like to purchase a copy of your pineapple video.

Re:Predictions about the service (1)

qubezz (520511) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960710)

Better prediction: DirecTV provides internet-connected wifi set-top boxes that get your DirecTV subscription over the internet, not over an expensive network of geostationary satellites that require a line-of-site dish on the roof and cabling. See: Sirius Satellite Radio, where the "satellite" in the name is becoming less relevant [siriusxm.com] . They can then add unlimited on-demand movies as a service, instead of just a few PPV channels where you have to wait for the time the movie starts.

Satellite will still be their primary business (4, Insightful)

pcjunky (517872) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959748)

They will do like any other business, use the service to try and protect their core business. You think they will settle for selling a service that earns around $10 per month and destroy their own business that earns around $70 per month? Me thinks not.

Re:Satellite will still be their primary business (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35965652)

The survey I filled in asked about a $4 per month. Of course the number might be either random or low as my previous answers had indicated I thought they were already expensive.

Selection algorithm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35959766)

Unless the competitors can come up with a selection algorithm as good as Netflix who cares. Getting content is easy, getting the right content is something else.

Re:Selection algorithm (1)

Warlord88 (1065794) | more than 3 years ago | (#35959874)

Setting up a distribution system as good as Netflix and delivering content at such low price is NOT easy.

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Why does anybody want more competition? (1)

Xeranar (2029624) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960234)

Netflix has done everything near perfectly for streaming service to our TVs. Expanding the fight for content drives up the price citizens pay for access to it so only the movie and television gain more for the same content they are largely already selling on their home channels. I haven't an issue with subsidizing entertainment if I am paying for it but I am instead paying for access to them after the fact. This new service suggests that Netflix will got into a price war with DirectTV and Amazon and thus push me more towards torrents than into paying $20-50 a month to cover the cost of the war.

Re:Why does anybody want more competition? (2)

jmauro (32523) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960352)

You know how competition works, right? If there are multiple competitors with roughly similar products the cost drops as the compete against each other for customers. It usually pushes the prices to somewhere near the marginal cost for each unit (depending on the barriers to entry and such). Competition in any market is usually seen as a good thing because of that fact.

Re:Why does anybody want more competition? (1)

urdak (457938) | more than 3 years ago | (#35960622)

No, the GP was actually right - in this kind of competition, prices go *up*, not down.
Why?
Because the situation today is that the law requires companies like Netflix to beg and bargain for content from the different movie studios and distribution companies. As Netflix and DirecTV and others compete, each will try to get "better" movies, "exclusive" movies, and so on, allowing the movie producers to *increase* the prices they charge these companies. Consumer will get higher prices and fewer choices - because some of the content you wish to see was made "exclusive" to the streaming company you don't use...

The only solution I see is to make laws or regulations allowing any company to broadcast *any* movie or show, for a predetermined (by the rights holder) price. Even better (but perhaps this is too idealistic) would be that the price for any movie will be the same. A similar situation exists in the radio business - radio stations can play any piece of music they want providing they pay royalties - and individual radio stations do not have to deal and bargain with rights holders to play each different song.

Re:Why does anybody want more competition? (1)

mattack2 (1165421) | more than 3 years ago | (#35970000)

But *FOR THE MOST PART* (yes, there is the recent counter-example of Netflix getting a new show first), Netflix has been getting "older" content, which a lot of people complain about... but it (IMHO) is what has let them able to keep their prices low (compared to renting each movie individually).

Not a bad idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35961004)

This isn't a bad idea because DirectTV already owns a distribution (not to mention "internet") link that site-steps existing internet pipes, and therefor caps.

I have no doubt in my mind they'll do it poorly, but from a technical standpoint, all they really have to do increase the buffer (say 10 minute chunks) and use wider bandwidth channels and slice the streams up ala TDMA. That way the streams aren't being wasted, nor are entire channels being wasted on one stream being paused. When the playback enters a 10 minute block, the backend requests the next 10 minute block, or even optionally just download the entire movie. It's only about 1GB per hour of video, but on a satellite that can be downloaded in seconds. Just download it to a RAM buffer large enough. We're almost at a point where 8GB of ram can be had for about 100$.

It's hard to believe that anyone would ever want to watch PPV except for live broadcasts (sports, live shows/events) I could never understand why anyone would want to pay 5$ to watch a show once, at home. Netflix for 7.99 and you can pretty much watch 100 hours of shows a month if you really are up to it. Prior to things like Netflix and Crunchyroll.com people just pirated things. Netflix competes successfully against pirates because people won't go through the bother of downloading something for free if they can pay to watch it anytime. There are a lot of people out there who just download video, games and music because it's there, and feel they are being some kind of archivist. This one guy I knew, somehow had thousands of cd's ripped because they were all copied from a radio station that went out of business. "Rare stuff" as he put it. Not really that rare, as it's all stuff put out there for the Radio station to use since CD's became available.

But that's my point with streaming. You help curb the pirate problem by making it easier to not pirate, and in the case of torrents, taking people out of the share stream, and making it slower to pirate.

Elvis has left the building (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35962162)

Too little, too late. First mover advantage is critical when your business is not about content creation but only about content distribution. (This ignores, of course, that NetFlix is getting into content creation too -- but that's just another strike against DirecTV

It's DIRECTV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35963462)

It's not DirecTV anymore, it's DIRECTV.

I know this because I work for a DIRECTV HSP provider, and our Senior Director of Marketing lit me up for typing it incorrectly.

How about they fix the service .... (1)

SCHecklerX (229973) | more than 3 years ago | (#35963700)

... they already provide first?

It's ridiculous that I cannot watch the stuff that my DVR recorded on another device (unless I buy another DirecTV receiver). More ridiculous that everything shows up as a UPnP service on the home network, I just can't actually view any of it.

There have been many times I was going away for a weekend, or on flights, where it would have been nice to catch up with everything the DVR had recorded.

Re:How about they fix the service .... (1)

lymond01 (314120) | more than 3 years ago | (#35965362)

I'd have to say that this is more of a feature request. Just sayin'.

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Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35972160)

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