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iThink iKnow what they're doing! (1)

Chas (5144) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962310)

Pizza delivery!

What?

=)

Re:iThink iKnow what they're doing! (1)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962520)

That's what Onlinepizza.se [onlinepizza.se] is for. Of course, if they somehow make it figure out what pizza you want without you having to tell it...

Or just let you schedule pizza orders at that, that way when you wake up on saturday with a hangover it will be because the pizza guy just arrived with your pizza. Much better than having to drag yourself out of bed, order pizza and then wait for the pizza.

Re:iThink iKnow what they're doing! (1)

colesw (951825) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962598)

Pizza Pizza in Canada lets you schedule a delivery for a later time, don't know how far in advance you can do it as I've never used that option :)

Re:iThink iKnow what they're doing! (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962930)

Why don't you test it for us? Just order a pizza for january 1st, 2112 and let us know when the pizza arrives.

Re:iThink iKnow what they're doing! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35966108)

How about december 31, 2999 for the new loosy millenium. With luck, you might be able to get back in time and tell us if it worked.

Re:iThink iKnow what they're doing! (1)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962632)

Clearly you're not an efficient drunk. ;)

What you need to do is order more pizza than even someone who's drunk off their ass would try eating while you're drinking; the more drunk you are, the better the odds of ending up with way too much. Then when you wake up with your hangover, the leftover pizza will immediately be available at room temperature because you were too drunk to clean it up the night before and you're too hungover to care about heating it. The biggest advantage of this method is that you don't have to deal with doorbells or people first thing after a night of drinking.

Re:iThink iKnow what they're doing! (1)

dudpixel (1429789) | more than 2 years ago | (#35971620)

That's what Onlinepizza.se [onlinepizza.se] is for. Of course, if they somehow make it figure out what pizza you want without you having to tell it...

This got my attention.

Apple could totally pull this off, because they do this with their hardware.

See, Apple dont need to guess what you want. First, they create something pretty, and then they tell you that you want it. It works so well for them that I'm pretty sure if they did it with pizza we'd be hearing about how the iPizza (there is only 1 flavour) really is the best pizza and we dont need all the others any more.

Re:iThink iKnow what they're doing! (-1, Offtopic)

PPH (736903) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962988)

Pizza delivery!

Huh?

Sorry. My mind wandered. I've been watching too much porn lately.

iName (-1)

magarity (164372) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962334)

I thought putting a small i in front of regular words to make it a product name was Apple's area of business. Prepare the lawsuits to demand the registration be handed over.

Re:iName (4, Informative)

grub (11606) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962358)


Prepare the lawsuits to demand the registration be handed over.

Did you read the full summary? Apple already bought the name, it's a bit late in the day to make that demand.

Re:iName (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35962806)

You're assuming their legal department won't sue their acquisition department. Haven't you been paying attention lately or something?

Maybe... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35962366)

With such a hefty price tag, Apple clearly must have serious plans for the cloud in the pipeline...

Or maybe they're just idiots.

the iphone data cap is to small to make the cloud (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962406)

the iphone data cap is to small to make the cloud work 2GB and then $10 pre GIG?

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962432)

For US home users sure. On our business phones at my work here in the UK, there is no cap on any of our O2 phones, including iPhones.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962840)

You foolishly assume that everywhere in the world is like the USA with stone age cellular networks.

Don't worry, it's a common mistake, but there are countries outside of the US with decent networks. Some of them you aren't even invading for petroleum distillate.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (0)

Dishevel (1105119) | more than 2 years ago | (#35963076)

You foolishly assume that markets outside of the US matter.
We never invade for oil. We invade because we get bored and there is nothing that can be done about it.

Really though.
You seriously think we do this shit for oil that we have never gotten?
Or is this just one of your talking points and you don't care how untrue it is as long as it sounds good.

Because if we wanted the oil from Iraq we would have just taken it.
Instead we try to build up a real government there to serve dipshits.
I know that the whole country is not made up of tribal shitheads that can not work together to save themselves.
But more than enough of that country and a few others in the region fit that description so much so that hope that they can handle their own shit dwindles by the second.

Also. The reason that the US has shit cell networks is because we had them first and upgraded them to real usability first.
Rolled it out pretty much across the entire nation. Now, as long as that massive infrastructure can hang on to at least "Almost good enough" the incentive to upgrade is small. Because of the size the cost to upgrade is large.

Hate to confuse you with facts and stuff when all you really want is to tritely bitch, whine and moan about the US.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#35963552)

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

You didn't see the sarcasm in that post, or the overly flippant "war for oil" deceased equine joke?

And I would wager that the networks outside the US do matter, especially to Apple, who make about 60% of their revenue from non-US markets.

I'm also not 100% sure on your "we had cellular first and made them usable first" claim - I was tethering in the UK years ago, back when things like the Nokia 3210 were the hot new thing (with swappable covers!), with inclusive text and voice plans that were in the 1000's of texts and minutes for the equivalent of $30 US monthly.

My iPhone plan from 2 years ago was better than the US equivalent, and still would be (I've since switched to a month-by-month plan for unlimited data, SMS and 1000 minutes for $30 USD per month, with a one month notice to cancel, although I'm paying twice as much as I really need to since other carriers can offer the same for less but I like my current provider and they're a known quantity re: coverage etc).

I'm also not really bitching and moaning *about* the US. It sure has a few things I hate about it (hello, healthcare - what is this, the 1800s?), but I love the place and lived there for some time, in the midwest, and likely will again in the future. What I don't like is ignorant isolationists who give the rest of the US a bad name. Things like "nowhere outside the US matters" is a shining example of that.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | more than 2 years ago | (#35968044)

First two lines may have been separated from reality by "Really though".
As for the stuff that came after.
At what point did you decide that 2 years ago was first for anything?
The US has a very bad cell network because it is the oldest.
How could you not understand the point being made?

Oh I know. You missed the sarcasm in the first two lines and never were able to recover.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#35969840)

Sarcasm only works on the sarcastic portions of your post - you can't claim that it covers your post as a blanket purely because you started with it (note that I didn't take issue with it, being clear sarcasm).

I didn't say that "2 years ago" was first for anything - you'll note I also talked about a time considerably before that with another mobile phone (although I could have gone earlier - the 3210 was a new kid on the block compared to my first mobile phone). I mentioned 2 years because it's approximately when I started my iPhone contract, just as a point of reference. How could you not understand the point being made?

The US cell network is not the oldest. That would be Japan, although if we're talking 2G (ie, the GSM standard - modern cellular phones compatible with today's networks), then that's Europe - specifically Scandinavia. They certainly don't have any capacity problems either.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35972430)

or the overly flippant "war for oil" deceased equine joke?

Which country has (much more) oil, Libya or Syria? Odd, isn't it?

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | more than 2 years ago | (#35977156)

Which other countries oil have we taken by force?
Odd, isn't it?

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35964684)

Take up the White Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.

Take up the White Man's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.

Take up the White Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.

Take up the White Man's burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.

Take up the White Man's burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"

Take up the White Man's burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.

Take up the White Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#35969156)

Dang, that was the least diplomatic, but best description of Iraq I've ever seen. Bravo!

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

NotAGoodNickname (1925512) | more than 2 years ago | (#35963328)

The US has much better networks than Europe. Plus we have 4G LTE deployed, and have created the iphone and android. Of course you will be modded up and me down but that's the breaks. BTW, on Sprint you get 4G and unlimited data. And speaking of wars, I'm pretty sure Europe has started a few all by itself and still continues to be involved in them.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#35963752)

The "war" joke was merely a flippant rebuttal to "nowhere outside the US matters" - I thought I'd appeal to the "America, Fuck Yeah!" patriotism. :p

I would contend that Europe has much better networks than the US, having had personal experience of both (I used to live in the Columbus, OH).

Here in the UK I am running a month-to-month plan (one month notice period) for $30 per month, unlimited data, SMS and 1000 minutes of voice. This is one of the cheap plans - we just do not have the data crunch and capacity issues that the US has, and there's nowhere I've been in the UK that has ever given me signal problems. I admit this is a function of land area (we are 1/4 the size of Texas), but I didn;t have any signal issues in Columbus and the surrounding areas - certainly not anywhere within range of a highway, and this was with a UK iPhone 3G on O2, so I was using AT&T and Tmobile's networks while over there.

Also, re: 4G, I thought that LTE was not actually "4G" and merely a marketing thing. There are LTE offerings here, but Ofcom and the standards bodies involved in 4G have stated it's not good enough to be called 4G.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

Algae_94 (2017070) | more than 2 years ago | (#35967316)

You foolishly believe that a US company would do something that would not be of benefit to their US users. Regardless of potential international profits, including the US = more profits.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#35969746)

In this case, the OP's assertion was that cloud bases services would be a total waste for Apple purely because US data plans would make them unworkable. I have to assume, given that 60% of their revenue comes from non-US markets, that they have their eye on more than just their US market, thus maybe cloud services aren't a total waste after all.

"It won't work in the US" is not a valid reason for them to ignore it.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

zieroh (307208) | more than 2 years ago | (#35968668)

You foolishly assume that everywhere in the world is like the USA with stone age cellular networks.

Don't worry, it's a common mistake, but there are countries outside of the US with decent networks. Some of them you aren't even invading for petroleum distillate.

You foolishly assume that everyone in the US is a warmongering SUV-driving neanderthal who can't be bothered to know the finer points of world geography and culture.

Okay, well... you'd be mostly right. But there's a few of us out here who aren't gazing intently at our own navel.

Re:the iphone data cap is to small to make the clo (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#35969852)

Oh I know, I almost married one (whether the navel gazing type or the non-SUV owner is entirely subjective) :D

I lived in the midwest for some time.

Control (2)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962396)

I'd guess a web based version of iTunes, with full backup at a minimum.

Re:Control (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35972458)

I'd guess a web based version of iTunes, with full backup at a minimum.

Yeah, I'd totally go to iCloud.com instead of iTunes.com if I wanted to use a web based version of iTunes.

Re:Control (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35973560)

I'd guess a web based version of iTunes, with full backup at a minimum.

If they want to do that, they could do worse than to purchase Michael Robertson's mp3tunes, who are already doing that pretty well.

Follow the trail (5, Informative)

Nimloth (704789) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962398)

Gigaom says "Apple May Have Snapped Up iCloud.com" because "My source [...] says that Xcerion has sold the domain to Apple for about $4.5 million. Xcerion hasn’t responded to my queries as yet. At the time of writing, the Whois database showed Xcerion as the owner of iCloud.".
EdibleApple says "Apple reportedly buys iCloud.com domain for $4.5 million" because "Gigaom is reporting that Apple recently purchased the iCloud.com domain from Xcerion for a cool $4.5 million.".
Which on Slashdot becomes "Apple Buys iCloud.com Domain For $4.5 Million" saying "A report on late Wednesday night relayed that Apple recently purchased the iCloud.com domain from Xcerion for a cool $4.5 million.".
When enough people speculate on the same thing, it apparently makes it undeniably so.

Re:Follow the trail (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35962616)

I just read it on Wikipedia, so it must be true. Also, did you hear about the elephant population in Africa?

Re:We have this rule at work (1)

Mouldy (1322581) | more than 2 years ago | (#35963004)

If you hear the same rumour from 2 different people/sources, it's true. This also holds true for rumours that you yourself started - if you hear it back from 2 different people, it must be true.

Re:We have this rule at work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35966932)

I had a (Computer Science) professor who liked to joke that you should test all programs 3 times.

If it works once, that's a conjecture.
If it works twice, that's evidence.
If it works three times, that's a proof by induction.

I take it then that... (1)

advocate_one (662832) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962400)

Xcerion weren't speculative domain squatters then and actually had a cloud based product... TFA is a bit light on detail...

Re:I take it then that... (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962842)

How is it domain squatting, or do you actually buy into the idea that Apple have automatic ownership of any word with an "i" stuck at the front, even though many prominent devices used this prior to Apple? It's not like they were sat on Apple.com or Iphone.org.

Re:I take it then that... (2)

Kielistic (1273232) | more than 2 years ago | (#35963668)

If they bought this domain and did not use it in the hope that apple (or someone else) would want it and be willing to pay them for it. That is domain squatting. Domain squatting has nothing at all to do with trademark infringement.

Re:I take it then that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35965530)

You might want to reread the post you replied to; I think you've missed its meaning.

Re:I take it then that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35972516)

How is it domain squatting,

If a domain links to a single page full of links to all sorts of topics, and at least one of the links says "buy this domain" - that's a pretty good hint at domain squatting, no matter what the domain name is.

Hefty price tag? (1)

What'sInAName (115383) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962414)

With such a hefty price tag, Apple clearly must have serious plans for the cloud in the pipeline..."

Considering the size of Apple, 4.5 mil is chump change. I don't really think that indicates anything about "serious plans."

Re:Hefty price tag? (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962540)

It's a 6 letter domain that only exists in the regulated space that is the internet. It's like buying a phone number. I wish I could get that kind of money for my domains - but apparently I bought land in the Arizona desert of domain space.

Re:Hefty price tag? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35962950)

Yeah, who would have guessed that iMangaFurries.com or BabesOfFirefly.com would have such limited appeal in the mass market?!

Re:Hefty price tag? (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | more than 2 years ago | (#35963032)

Good, speculators bring nothing but money drain. GJ on being a parasite.

Re:Hefty price tag? (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 2 years ago | (#36040836)

I happen to own six, four of which are my surname and my professional business name, the other two are community-based. Still, if there were a $4.5M pricetag for my surname, I'd gladly hand it over and change my email address (Though if somebody wanted it badly enough to pay me 4.5M, I could probably negotiate a redirect)

Re:Hefty price tag? (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962828)

And yet, it's more than the productive output of the average person over their entire lifetime. Whoever sold it just won a lifetime entitlement of servitude by all around them. And for what?

Re:Hefty price tag? (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962974)

For ownership of a 6-letter word "on the internet".

Adding "on the internet" to something seems to work for the stupid patents, so it might as well work for some other things too.

Re:Hefty price tag? (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#35969202)

I know the original owner of Aloha.com and he made a couple million selling it to the tourism board...way back the mid 90s...

Pocket change (1)

sizzzzlerz (714878) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962430)

They've got reserves of $60 billion or so. $4.5 million is like the budget for snacks in the break room.

Re:Pocket change (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35962628)

Apple actually has $11 billion in cash.

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/aapl/financials/balance-sheet

Re:Pocket change (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35970170)

Most of the time, we don't get (free) snacks in the break room. That's Google.

$4.5 million nothing for Apple (1)

mrfantasy (63690) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962536)

They made 1000x that in profit last quarter. They have $50 billion in the bank. $4.5 million is rounding error to Apple.

Re:$4.5 million nothing for Apple (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962996)

$4.5 million is rounding error to Apple

Is Gus Gorman working for them?

Re:$4.5 million nothing for Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35964286)

mod parent imbecile

More Apples (2)

dogmatixpsych (786818) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962556)

I'm a big Apple fan and love almost all things Apple but speculative Apple stories like this are ridiculous for a "news" site. I know it's about "engaging the community" and ad impressions and all that but it seems better to just cover the news when it happens rather than the speculations before it happens. Then we end up with an intelligent conversation about what X means rather than wild conjectures about what the future might hold for our favorite/least favorite tech company. /end karma bleeding rant

Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35962892)

4.5 million?

It's less like buying up competitors and more like being passive aggressive to a homeless guy by giving him 45 cents to stop annoying you.

Hope it works (1)

CODiNE (27417) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962912)

I just lost a few gigs through a bad iDisk sync in the Finder. It synced a few files partway through, got interrupted and then resumed by syncing the partials BACK to the server. So the 5 or so files that it hadn't started syncing yet were GONE... and the partials overwrote the complete copies.

Yay.

And I'm going to trust them with important stuff? Not likely.

Re:Hope it works (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#35963466)

And I'm going to trust them with important stuff? Not likely.

In certain circles, MobileMe is known as Mobile MeaCulpa [allthingsd.com] . Maybe they're going to use the iCloud domain to 'start anew'.

Again.

Quick! (1)

PPH (736903) | more than 2 years ago | (#35962920)

Someone squat on iCloud.xxx

Re:Quick! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35963290)

Seriously? Squat on it doesn't really sound appropriate for that domain. . . unless. . . . lightbulb. . . . . Thinking about the idea of the blender guys, but this is the porn of apple. . . . nah, I'm sure someone else already has that market as well.

Blowing iSmoke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35962948)

The "cloud" is as tangible as intranets. An idea once proposed, is know to everyone and as easily replicated.

A web-application and off-site storage by any other name just isn't worth any more money. Bottled (tap) water for the internet.

I think it's safe to say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35963126)

This is one cloud service provider that won't be folding overnight.

Internet Bubble (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35963446)

If you ask me, all this high price internet stuff has all the earmarks of a new internet bubble.

*SIGH* /* Me puts on dirty robes (1)

Provocateur (133110) | more than 2 years ago | (#35963456)

...and fake scraggly beard, picks a "THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH" protest placard from the heap, and on the available space underneath, writes with a black sharpie: "iCloud is dot.coming" Goes outside, and starts preaching from the corner.

*ducks*

Really? (1)

garry_g (106621) | more than 2 years ago | (#35963478)

Wow, a word starting with "i" and Apple didn't sue to get it for free?

Re:Really? (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#35964298)

Yes, funny how the idea of them being an "evil empire" doesn't really translate to the real world, eh?

It's almost as if it's hyperbole on the internet, inflated to near crazy levels by neckbeard-razor-burn. You know how crotchety that makes nerds! (So much so that I don't believe that's actually a sentence).

They should have emmient domain'd it.... (0)

BulletMagnet (600525) | more than 2 years ago | (#35964064)

it has an small "i" in front ... therefore it's Appleesque ... called their buddies at the DOJ and ICE ... coulda had it for free.....

Re:They should have emmient domain'd it.... (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#35964250)

Yes, it's a shame they didn't sue to get it, since that would have played nicely into the "Apple is evil" mentality on slashdot. They just don't know what to do when they do things reasonably. Don't worry, it'll get swept away quietly when the next round of supposed "evil" is uncovered. :p

iSlashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35964448)

Hey CmdrTaco, how much would you give me for iSlashdot?

Not that hefty of a price (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 2 years ago | (#35964596)

Apple has around 65.1 billion in cash reserves right now, 4.5 million is a drop in the bucket.

What A Waste of Money (1)

tgeek (941867) | more than 2 years ago | (#35965356)

Doesn't Apple hold the patents on clouds? They could've just (threatened to) sued for ownership of anything of or petaining to clouds. Guess somebody was asleep in the legal dept.

iSpy domain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35968832)

Meanwhile speculators are in a bidding war over ispy.com, in the hopes that Apple may one day decide to buy it as soon as they complete their transition to a truly evil corporation.

WhoIs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35972752)

says no. Outlook cloudy.

Unrelated - or is it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35983200)

I'm surprised that no-one's yet commented that the verb form of 'cloud' can also mean 'obscure'. Where does that put iCloud and CloudMe?

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