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Black Hat, DEFCON Founder Named CSO of ICANN

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the they-like-people-who-like-upper-case dept.

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ancientribe writes "Jeff Moss, aka 'The Dark Tangent,' and founder of the Black Hat security conference and DEFCON, the world's largest hacker conference, has been named VP and CSO of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). Moss will take on the position of Black Hat Conference Chair, where he will continue to play a key role in the development of conference and training content."

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As good as it gets. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35980672)

Kudos.

can't resist (5, Funny)

demonbug (309515) | more than 3 years ago | (#35980712)

ICANN haz Black Hat?

Re:can't resist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35980754)

ICANN haz Black Hat?

OK, you win the story.

Re:can't resist (1, Informative)

Icegryphon (715550) | more than 3 years ago | (#35980794)

ICANN haz Black Hat?

Sir, If I had mod points, you would of had some of them.

Re:can't resist (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35980922)

I would subsequently mod him back down because lolcats aren't funny. ho snap!

Re:can't resist (1, Offtopic)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#35981026)

Would HAVE. </grammarnazi>

You can haz mod points too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35981188)

That misuse really annoys me. People who use synthetic grammars and syntaxes for a living should be able to use the ones in natural languages as well.

Re:can't resist (1)

nitehawk214 (222219) | more than 3 years ago | (#35981206)

Would HAVE. </grammarnazi>

And if I had some mod points you would have some too.

Of the -1 Off Topic variety. :)

Re:can't resist (1)

Fnordulicious (85996) | more than 3 years ago | (#35981946)

The reason people do this is because the word 'have'and the word 'of' have exactly the same pronunciation when unstressed. They both are realized with a schwa vowel and a voiced labiodental fricative /v/. It's not an arbitrary mistake, and interestingly the merger of the two words in this environment doesn't hamper vocal communication.

Re:can't resist (2)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 3 years ago | (#35982438)

This is not, however, vocal communication. This is textual communication, and there is not one glyph common to "have" and "of". Thus, in textual communication, it is indeed counterproductive and WRONG. My initial attempts to parse the sentence in question resulted in failure - it was only when I considered how it would be spoken that I realized his intent.

This linguistic confusion is especially wrong coming from someone who, at the very least, is a hobbyist programmer (I checked Icegryphon's post history, he's made some rather knowledgeable posts about SMP libraries - if he's not a programmer, he fakes it VERY well). In programming, a mistake so little as a colon in place of a semicolon can be disastrous - thus, most programmers are unceasingly diligent about using precisely the right character.

Re:can't resist (1)

White Flame (1074973) | more than 3 years ago | (#35983036)

"Have" does not sound like "of", even when unstressed. What is being confused is "would've" vs "would of", the former obviously being a contraction of "would have".

Re:can't resist (1)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | more than 3 years ago | (#35984838)

So why is it so common to read "would of" but rare to read any of:
- would huff
- wood of
- wood have
- woo dove ...?

Re:can't resist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35981018)

a fitting end (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35980738)

"the development of conference and training content"

Jeebus.

Who did he piss off?

Re:a fitting end (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 3 years ago | (#35980836)

He's a blackhat. It's his job to piss everyone off.

Re:a fitting end (1)

strat (39913) | more than 3 years ago | (#35987932)

It would be a mistake to confuse a founder of a company who later sells it with some hired hand. There's no shame in moving on to different things or diversifying your interests after a "favorable exit" (to use a term of art from the VC world).

Unrelated to this.. (5, Funny)

zAPPzAPP (1207370) | more than 3 years ago | (#35980776)

.. a vulnerability in the process for finding new ICANN VPs has recently been discovered.
Any exploits for this are currently unknown.

Re:Unrelated to this.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35981876)

The problem is, ICANN is wholly OWNED by the USA Gov. So, he'll have to get used to swallowing Muslim cum from Arab Whitehouse occupant Barack Hussein Obama, currently floating around a forged birth certificate.

Re:Unrelated to this.. (1)

codeAlDente (1643257) | more than 3 years ago | (#35982118)

You're saying his birth certificate is an obvious forgery? You must be ignoring the truth. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185094 [market-ticker.org]

Re:Unrelated to this.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35988062)

Hey, if Obama's certificate is fake, it's just making an opening for the removal of the 'native born citizen' law for Schwartzenegger's 2012 Campaign :D

Re:Unrelated to this.. (1)

ShakaUVM (157947) | more than 3 years ago | (#35981968)

>>.. a vulnerability in the process for finding new ICANN VPs has recently been discovered.

Didn't the ICANN just recently switch to electronic voting?

Re:Unrelated to this.. (1)

rs79 (71822) | more than 3 years ago | (#35982674)

ICANN vote? You must be kidding. Never mind that's what the USG told them to do in 1999.

Finally (5, Insightful)

Gallomimia (1415613) | more than 3 years ago | (#35980824)

...someone who knows the the fuck they are doing in a regulatory position for the internet.

Re:Finally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35980916)

Unfortunately also possibly an example of the Peter principle: Meaning he was good at one job, does not mean that he's good at a different one.

Oh well... better than the typical tie generals, who aren't good at *anything*.

Re:Finally (1)

Acapulco (1289274) | more than 3 years ago | (#35981106)

Now we just need to see if the ones who do NOT know what the fuck they are doing will let him work his magic...

ICANN thinks IP is Intellectual Property (1)

billstewart (78916) | more than 3 years ago | (#35981224)

ICANN's always been about Intellectual Property, not the Internet Protocol. So they DO have some idea about what job they're doing and how it works, it's just not what you or I wanted to have them doing. And they spent a long time making sure community involvement in their policy-making didn't happen (such as Karl Auerbach's membership on their board), because internet users were not the community they were working for.

And yeah, I'm glad they hired him.

Re:Finally (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35981308)

"...someone who knows the the fuck they are doing"

If only people around here knew the the fuck the.

Best ... social ... engineering... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35980884)

EVER!

Re:Best ... social ... engineering... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35981592)

I don't understand this position.

By definition, isn't "black hat" a nefarious hacker? Shouldn't the position be for a "white hat" hacker?

Re:Best ... social ... engineering... (1)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 3 years ago | (#35982236)

It's ICANN...

Re:Best ... social ... engineering... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35982486)

EVER!

He seriously just called each ICANN Board member and told them the other members said it was cool to hire him.

Makes sense (1)

dave562 (969951) | more than 3 years ago | (#35982242)

He always was politically astute.

He has what it takes (2)

strat (39913) | more than 3 years ago | (#35982560)

I think Jeff will do well, and told him as much. He's walking into an inherently political environment, and he has demonstrated his ability to be diplomatic in groups of mixed stakeholders. Perhaps more importantly, he isn't beholden to any one particular vendor, regulator or constituency, which is important if you ever have to make difficult decisions in the public eye.

Fuck all y'all (1)

Orgasmatron (8103) | more than 3 years ago | (#35983060)

Jeff has been doing this shit since 1992.

Back in 1992, did you care enough about computer security to organize a worldwide fucking conference on the topic?

If the answer is no, and I know it is, shut the fuck up and let the man enjoy it.

My first time was DefCon V in 1997.and that was also the day that I learned that there were people that were actually doing the shit that I had been thinking about.

Free Kevin! Viva Las Dark Tangent!

Re:Fuck all y'all (1)

Linkiroth (952123) | more than 3 years ago | (#35983490)

Sir, I don't mean to bring you down but Kevin's been free for over 11 years. Jeff seems to be a great guy, I'm sure he'll do very well.

Re:Fuck all y'all (1)

synaptic (4599) | more than 3 years ago | (#35985876)

There were plenty of conventions before defcon (e.g. HoHoCon, SummerCon, CCC, etc)

Get off my lawn..

The Dark Side of the force (1)

NSN A392-99-964-5927 (1559367) | more than 3 years ago | (#35983194)

Remember the dark side is the fun side of the force, go get drunk smoke something and pick a fight with a Storm Trooper http://www.fluxradio.org/vader.mp3 [fluxradio.org] ha ha ha

Black Hat is the worst of all conferences (0)

trifish (826353) | more than 3 years ago | (#35983196)

Absolutely no peer-review before a presenter is accepted. The result? The presentations consist mostly of attention-seeking morons who present half-hoaxes and half-misleading garbage as "a new class of attacks", etc. etc. I would not hire that guy even to bring me coffee.

techweb.com: keep your hands out of my cookie jar (1)

Gravis Zero (934156) | more than 3 years ago | (#35983612)

The page isn't redirecting properly

Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.

This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept cookies.

i dont care why they need cookies but i refuse to let everyone store shit on my computer. prove yourself first and th-oh wait nevermind.

DEFCON = ratcon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35984054)

nothing black hat about it.YOU tell your not black hat

how appropriate (1)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | more than 3 years ago | (#35984866)

Moving from a position managing a room full of loudmouth self-aggrandisers with an inflated sense of their own technical ability to...

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