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Google Talk Enables Video Chat On Android Phones

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the have-your-robots-call-my-robots dept.

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MojoKid writes "Google recently launched Google Talk with video and voice chat for Android phones. With the service, users will be able to video or voice chat with their friends and family directly from an Android phone. Calls can be placed over 3G, 4G and Wi-Fi connections. According to Google, the new features will first roll out to the Nexus S phones over the next few weeks as part of the Android 2.3.4 over-the-air update. Google Talk with video and voice chat will launch on other Android 2.3 and higher devices in the future as well. The video demo in the article shows it in action."

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Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (1)

Brucelet (1857158) | more than 3 years ago | (#35991808)

What a clever new functionality!

Re:Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992194)

Seriously. Way to copy Apple's magical Facetime.

Re:Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992256)

Not really. Google Talk Video chat isn't limited to wifi only.

If you must say GTalk copied something, it's the 3G video chat from a decade ago.

Re:Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35993374)

The only problem is Android user not worth looking at. At least not without gouging out your eyes first.

Re:Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992292)

Problem with anything like this is the dual showstopper of limited battery life and "unlimited" network data. Add to that that some networks (in the UK at least) don't allow VOIP (and charge for it outside of your contract)

Re:Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (1)

icebike (68054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35993904)

If your video chat is so long that it threatens either of those limits, simply find some wifi.

The key thing here is Skype is dead. Too slow to implement, huge memory hog to run.
Now its all built in, and integrates with the GMAIL via a browser plug in, on tablets via Honeycomb, and now phones.

If you have friends or family over seas this is a godsend.

Re:Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#35995184)

Don't forget to hold your breath waiting for your phone to get an update to this version of Android...even if it already has a front-facing camera.

Re:Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (1)

icebike (68054) | more than 3 years ago | (#35995272)

It's already in honeycomb tablets. Used it yesterday.

Re:Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#36007618)

Great. Except the title, article and my post all explicitly refer to 'phone'.

Re:Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (1)

jomcty (806483) | more than 3 years ago | (#36010254)

My Nexus S received the auto-update this morning!

Re:Google lets you talk to people on your phone? (1)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 2 years ago | (#36000576)

My copy of Skype for Android works fine. Unfortunately, it has no video support. For voice calls and chat however, it does work well.

Friends and family. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35991840)

>With the service, users will be able to video or voice chat with their friends and family directly from an Android phone.

Well, fuck! I was hoping I could use the phone in a professional setting.

Looks familiar (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 3 years ago | (#35991854)

Wasnt that available in the N900 like a full year ago? And skype too. Too bad the front camera of it is not the greatest, but still, for a year and half device should not be so bad.

Re:Looks familiar (1)

symbolset (646467) | more than 3 years ago | (#35991882)

It's been in the phones the whole time, you just had to use an app. Now it's included in the OS also.

Re:Looks familiar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35991926)

You forgot to mention that all those video chat apps suck horribly. Every last one of them.

Re:Looks familiar (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35991904)

Video chat has long been Android's most requested feature, probably for 2 years now. No idea WTF Google has been waiting for this whole time. It should have been there in 2.1.

Re:Looks familiar (1)

Macrat (638047) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992542)

Video chat has long been Android's most requested feature, probably for 2 years now. No idea WTF Google has been waiting for this whole time. It should have been there in 2.1.

They needed to wait until Apple did it first so they could copy it. ;-)

Re:Looks familiar (3, Informative)

idealego (32141) | more than 3 years ago | (#35991930)

... Too bad the front camera of it is not the greatest, but still, for a year and half device should not be so bad.

The front-facing cameras on the Google Nexus S, iPhone 4, and N900 are all 640x480.

Re:Looks familiar (2)

avel599 (413285) | more than 3 years ago | (#35991942)

There is 640x480 and then there is 640x480.

Some webcams look great at this resolution for all intents and purposes. Some cheap ones can be totally useless. (The webcam of my Archos 70IT android tablet is the latter).

Re:Looks familiar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992196)

The thing is, a lot of new phones aren't coming with a front camera anymore (ie EVO Shift).

Re:Looks familiar (1)

4phun (822581) | more than 3 years ago | (#35996422)

Not to forget all the new Mac Book Pros 2011 are equipped with face time out of the box. These are remarkably well made laptops that should again blow away Apples competition in the quality laptop market. I bought one yesterday and I am amazed at how much Apple gives you in a laptop designed to last more than a year or two. the whole Apple mobile ecosystem from iPhones, iPads, to laptops now are face time capable. I wonder if Android will be able to use Face Time or will it be merely limited to Google talk?

Anyone?

Re:Looks familiar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35996550)

Nice try, Apple Marketing Department.

Re:Looks familiar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35991952)

Video calling has been a standard feature for years. I don't get why it's suddenly news when Apple does facetime or Google adds video calling. Besides which, it's a feature I've never seen anyone use for more than a week after they got the phone.

Re:Looks familiar (5, Informative)

hitmark (640295) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992594)

Another case of USA == world in tech news circles. Iirc, US carriers (that use GSM/UMTS) have never bothered implementing video calls. As such, the US tech market has barely been aware that it existed. Then comes Jobs on stage and does his typical superlative carpet bomb intro of facetime. And suddenly it is all the rage. This while one have been able to use video calls on feature phones in Europe for a decade, and if on a symbian phone (or winmob if one had one with a front facing camera), via skype, qik or similar services.

Re:Looks familiar (1)

Dan541 (1032000) | more than 3 years ago | (#35993544)

It's been a standard for more than 10 years. People use it once then the novelty wears off.

Re:Looks familiar (2)

Jaffa (7714) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992282)

Not just the N900 either. Both the N800 and N810 both allowed video chat over Google Talk; so we're going back 3 years for a feature that Nokia had on its Maemo devices built-in, out-of-the-box and fully integrated into the OS.

Re:Looks familiar (1)

kingofwaldos (645744) | more than 2 years ago | (#36000062)

Well, sorta. The N810 and N800 will do video chat over Google Talk, but only with another Nokia internet tablet. They have some sort of goofy codec requirements due to their low processor power.

Re:Looks familiar (1)

hkkundariya (2107320) | more than 3 years ago | (#36021034)

I do agree with you.. N900 is also not supporting as well as skypee too i m stuck with it... can any one suggest other apps for N900... Thank you.

Now what Google needs is an Auto-Airbrush App (4, Funny)

sandytaru (1158959) | more than 3 years ago | (#35991892)

The Auto-Airbrush application will take your image and in real time smooth out blemishes, do your makeup or shave your stubble (depending on the gender setting you choose), and fix your hair (or even apply a toupee or wig if you like.) By guaranteeing that the users of Google Talk for Android will look nice on camera, or at the very least, like actual human beings, Google will get a much needed leg-up on Apple's FaceTime, which is underutilized because no one wants to get cleaned up just to talk on the phone.

Re:Now what Google needs is an Auto-Airbrush App (1)

dadelbunts (1727498) | more than 3 years ago | (#35993590)

But i like my stubble.

Re:Now what Google needs is an Auto-Airbrush App (1)

TheGothicGuardian (1138155) | more than 3 years ago | (#35994212)

Then you get the makeup option.

Re:Now what Google needs is an Auto-Airbrush App (1)

dudpixel (1429789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35996080)

But i like my stubble.

Then the auto-airbrush will be applied to your image at the other end.

Re:Now what Google needs is an Auto-Airbrush App (1)

dadelbunts (1727498) | more than 2 years ago | (#36000380)

I like my stubble there too!

Re:Now what Google needs is an Auto-Airbrush App (1)

dudpixel (1429789) | more than 3 years ago | (#36007170)

yes but the receiver doesn't.

Typical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35991928)

Typical of a fragmented community. Let's roll it out to googles supported phone first and let the other users pray their device mfgr or even the carrier decides to release an update. Android needs updates released directly from google pushed to the devices at the same time.

Re:Typical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992038)

B.S. GTalk will be update via the market. If you can't wait just follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056793 [xda-developers.com]

Two-Way Wrist TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35991982)

It's a prurient euphemism when you don't actually wear them on your wrist.

old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992000)

robotsanywhere lets you do this for any android 1.5 or higher, download it. You can also use it to steer robots, but just put it in camera mode and then make a normal voice call and you can do that. One way only though.

Google Voice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992006)

Has anyone tried forwarding calls from google voice to google talk to see if this receives the calls?

Only some gtalk clients seem to have that ability - that's the only reason I'm asking.

Re:Google Voice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992036)

It's not officially out yet so there is no way to try.

Some of us are unofficially installing it on rooted devices but so far it only partially works.

Callback from GV to Talk on my mobile is the feature I have been waiting for (well, that and SIP support for GV).

What's the point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992012)

What everyone seems to be forgetting is that you can chat with any PC, tablet, or other phone that supports GTalk......That's the significance of it all.

Re:What's the point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992386)

kinda like you can already do with skype for pc, mac, iphone, ipad? oh, forgot.... skype for android doesnt do video.

Yet another bandwidth sucker (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992042)

I bet the carriers are peeing themselves at this point.

Re:Yet another bandwidth sucker (1)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992160)

Why? They'll roll out their new voice and video chat service, available for $20/mo. (Option only available on plans costing $59.99/mo or more. Three-year contract required. Voice chat minutes count against your monthly quota; video chat charged at double rate.)

Re:Yet another bandwidth sucker (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992350)

I meant out of being overly excited.. not from fear. They see $$ falling out of sky like rain drops in a storm.

Re:Yet another bandwidth sucker (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992238)

Hm. Let's see...video chat, metered service...

I see a lot of bandwidth caps being hit with resulting overage charges followed by people re-upping for new contracts with higher caps (because you can't change your contract, you have to get a new one).

Cha-ching!

Nokia N900 Skype (etc.) integration is older (1, Interesting)

operator_error (1363139) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992054)

As a Nokia N900 owner, I'm really impressed with the front facing video camera and skype integration. Skype is pre-installed, and Firefox mobile 3 is the default browser too. (Firefox 4 mobile is has officially been released for 1 month now for Maemo & Android and seems nice and faster too). Yesterday I did a 3.5 g skype video call that went really well between Europe and the USA, in the middle of a national holiday in the capital; the folks back home were impressed.

I digress. I like how the N900 profile feature lets me set availability to groups of apps like Skype, Jabber, SIP, etc. paired with my common net-connections like home wifi & mobile 3g. The contact book shows me who is online and available options to contact them, (Skype w/ status, SIP, cell, IM etc.) Also notifications is pretty sweet. It is a very nice linux PIM piece o' hardware. I for one, am looking forward to the next Meego device, the N950; to be most-likely announced next month at the Meego conference. (Where Meego 1.2 will also become available for N900 devices as well).

http://maemo.nokia.com/features/contacts/ [nokia.com]

http://sf2011.meego.com/ [meego.com]

Re:Nokia N900 Skype (etc.) integration is older (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992114)

Also... I have been using video chat ("Google Talk") for at least several months now on my Nokia N900. No great announcement occurred - it just began to work like those regular calls (comparable to Google chat working similarly to SMSes). How backwater can Google be, and how bad in marketing certain Finnish company can be?

not interested (3, Interesting)

LodCrappo (705968) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992076)

personally, this is not the way I'd like to see things going. i use a smarthphone instead of a regular cell because it lets me communicate with *less* human interaction.

Re:not interested (1)

whoop (194) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992248)

So, um, don't...

Perhaps someday, you'll find that special someone you'd be interesting in interacting with. Or perhaps there are other people that could use this to interact with someone they wish to.

Features aren't mandatory to use.

Re:not interested (1)

LodCrappo (705968) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992296)

obviously. hence the explicit designation of my comments as my own my personal view.

Re:not interested (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | more than 3 years ago | (#35994538)

Personally I use my smartphone differently, and this is exactly the way I like to see things going. GIVE THE USERS CHOICE.

You don't like video chat, don't turn it on, and don't make a video call.

No one is interested in your whining.

Re:not interested (2)

LodCrappo (705968) | more than 3 years ago | (#35994634)

If video calls become ubiquitous, then I essentially will not have a choice. My smartphone is a business tool, and to participate in the business world typically means using the same medium to contact someone else as they use to contact you, or to at least be available via their preferred method. Email and texts were a move away from the engaging, time demanding requirements of the traditional phone call. This is a step backwards, making communication even more tedious than standard voice is. As I stated quite simply, I have no interest and hope that this does not become popular enough to require its use.

Re:not interested (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | more than 2 years ago | (#35998518)

If video calls become ubiquitous, ...

My smartphone is a business tool, and to participate in the business world typically means using the same medium to contact someone else as they use to contact you, or to at least be available via their preferred method. Email and texts were a move away from the engaging, time demanding requirements of the traditional phone call. ...

This is my point right here. There are business users out there who will prefer email and you can happily sit and exchange stories about those damn hippies and their video calling all you want via SMS. This is ADDING a feature, not REMOVING one.

Hell send snail mail to each other and lighten the heck up. I'm sure in 10 years time you'll find the txt messaging button right next to the 3D holograph button or the dome of silence button.

So, is this a future feature announcement? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992152)

I don't get it, the video chat is available right now or not? Or is just another: "look at what we are promising to get working in a few week!"

FaceTime Compatible? (1)

MBCook (132727) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992176)

Apple said they would release FaceTime as a standard that others could implement, does anyone know if there is any non-Apple FaceTime software out there?

I've used FaceTime between my iPhone and a Mac, and it's quite nice, but it seems like it could be a big boon to someone to start selling FaceTime enabled video chat on the Android market.

Re:FaceTime Compatible? (1)

t2t10 (1909766) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992272)

There are about a dozen video chat apps out for Android supporting lots of different standards, including the standards that supposedly make up Facetime. Yet, none of them support Apple Facetime. Chances are therefore that either Apple has not released the necessary information or nobody gives a damn about Facetime compatibility. I suspect it's the former. It wouldn't be the first time that Apple said one thing and did something different.

Re:FaceTime Compatible? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35992304)

Sorry, to implement FT's open specification, you need to buy a license / certificate from big red / the H264 consortium. Don't be too surprised if no companies are willing to drop $1-6m on a company-wide license for a simple voice chat application. Most apps that video chat are already free, and one that feeds a company a lot of Android users don't like due to their tight-fisted policies probably isn't going to wash over well.

Re:FaceTime Compatible? (1)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992920)

Apple said they would release FaceTime as a standard that others could implement, does anyone know if there is any non-Apple FaceTime software out there?

Apple said they'd release the video/audio codec combination as a standard IIRC, because the image and sound quality was supposedly much superior to what was out there at the time, not that they would allow anyone who wanted to the ability to connect to the FaceTime network.

Re:FaceTime Compatible? (1)

mjwx (966435) | more than 3 years ago | (#35994480)

I've used FaceTime between my iPhone and a Mac, and it's quite nice, but it seems like it could be a big boon to someone to start selling FaceTime enabled video chat on the Android market.

Selling?

I'd damn well expect to get that for free. Hackers would take a for sale client as an affront.

I also expect Apple to hit back. They don't like Android, Apple will probably use something like a DCMA violation as a cudgel. Remember that Apple have said they'd enable it to be used as a standard, they haven't open sourced or opened the spec on anything. In reality this promise is worth the paper it's written on, Apple don't want Android competing on an equal footing.

When that happens, watch the Android Facetime client source get published, if it was not open already. Hilarity ensues.

so... (1)

hitmark (640295) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992514)

This is still using H264, as gtalk video used when first introduced? Or does it support webm or similar freely implementable codecs? And if yes to the latter, when can we see it working on Pidgin?

Re:so... (1)

caseih (160668) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992732)

I'm pretty sure pidgin supports google talk video and has for some time.

Re:so... (1)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992982)

Only on Linux. They don't support it on Windows because the developers aren't personally interested in V/V support and don't really care what their users want (and that's not an exaggeration if you've seen the discussions on it on Pidgin's site).

Phone out to landlines? (1)

Maury Markowitz (452832) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992864)

Google Chat allows me to phone landlines. Will this version allow that? If so, that's very very interesting.

Unless they actually enable some BlueTooth support (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 3 years ago | (#35992948)

it's nearly useless.

One of my few serious complaints about Android is a serious lack of BlueTooth support. Except for normal phone calls and streaming music you can all but forget it. My phone came with Qik, which does streaming video, but speaker phone ONLY, not even TRRS headphones. Well, unless I'm at home in a quiet room it's useless. If I'm at home in a quiet room I'll use Skype to video chat.

What's that? Skype is available for Android also?

Guess what? Same boat as Qik! That, and Skype is somewhat lacking in video support on Android next to their lack of BlueTooth support, oh, and a third party enabled Skype to work well so they labeled them as causing their product to do unintended things devaluing it, without actually stating what they did wrong (Fring) so they locked them out.

Unless they actually make BlueTooth, or at minimum TRRS headphones work it's another "almost but not good enough".

Re:Unless they actually enable some BlueTooth supp (1)

RzUpAnmsCwrds (262647) | more than 3 years ago | (#35993980)

Your headphones are broken, or your device is. Skype works fine with the TRRS headset that came with my Nexus One, and it works fine with the PSP headset I picked up for $4 before Ultimate Electronics went out of business.

Re:Unless they actually enable some BlueTooth supp (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 3 years ago | (#35994180)

Possibly the headphones, I used my leftover iPhone ones, hadn't actually tried talking on them in a long time.

Re:Unless they actually enable some BlueTooth supp (1)

mjwx (966435) | more than 3 years ago | (#35994454)

it's nearly useless.

One of my few serious complaints about Android is a serious lack of BlueTooth support. Except for normal phone calls and streaming music you can all but forget it.

You were saying? [android.com] ,

Bluetooth File Transfer, formerly Medival Bluetooth FTP works fine without root on every phone I've had (HTC Dream, Motorola Milestone, HTC Desire Z).

If you've got root you can do a lot more. I think there may even be BT tethering w/o the requirement for Root access but I've never looked into this in any detail.

Perhaps you were thinking of an OS which competes with Android and has a lot of restrictions.

Re:Unless they actually enable some BlueTooth supp (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 3 years ago | (#36006246)

No, I'm talking about Android and Bluetooth. Until audio is used beyond just regular phone calls and music streaming I'm keeping my perspective. The general overall speech to text engine? No Bluetooth, any voice application that isn't a normal phone call? No Bluetooth. Android is incredibly limited on it's audio Bluetooth support beyond the basics. My really really crappy Motorola Q cleaned up where Bluetooth was concerned, then promptly locked up, crashed, or overheated and generally all around sucked at everything else. My old Kyocera, the Moto Q, and my BlackBerry let me simply hit the button on my headset and say who I wanted to call. My Android based HTC phone is by far the absolute best phone I've ever used not counting its limited Bluetooth support.

I am root on my EVo. I have FTP'ed over Bluetooth, it's nice but I generally use the USB cable because it's faster, I haven't teathered over it, I use WiFi, I've tried teathering over USB, but to be frank I gave up on troubleshooting quickly and easily because WiFi already worked perfectly.

All things said, every phone I've mentioned thus far stomps the 3G iPhone I had where Bluetooth is concerned.

Re:Unless they actually enable some BlueTooth supp (1)

mjwx (966435) | more than 3 years ago | (#36006440)

No, I'm talking about Android and Bluetooth. Until audio is used beyond just regular phone calls and music streaming I'm keeping my perspective.

I've been able to pass any audio via BT on my HTC Desire and Motorola Milestone to a laptop? The inbuilt video player and Rock Player automatically passed through audio to a Windows laptop.

What are you on about.

The general overall speech to text engine?

Has nothing to do with BT?

it's nice but I generally use the USB cable because it's faster

BT FTP is for the times where you don't have a cable or are sending to another device. Doesn't happen every day but it does happen so it's a very nice feature to have.

Re:Unless they actually enable some BlueTooth supp (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 3 years ago | (#36007114)

No, I'm talking about Android and Bluetooth. Until audio is used beyond just regular phone calls and music streaming I'm keeping my perspective.

I've been able to pass any audio via BT on my HTC Desire and Motorola Milestone to a laptop? The inbuilt video player and Rock Player automatically passed through audio to a Windows laptop.

What are you on about.

That's nice, I don't have a Windows laptop shoved in my ear when I want to try a really cool video conference. Having one around would sort of defeat the purpose of wanting to do that with my phone. It doesn't stream music to my normal Jawbone Bluetooth headset either, but I'm not complaining about that because that's what my Cy-Fy speaker rig is for. It does an excellent job with that BTW, but I don't want to use that for Qik or Skype either.

The general overall speech to text engine?

Has nothing to do with BT?

No, but it should and does on other phones, especially older pre-smart phones and voice dialing, it's like modern phones lost features older ones have. It's audio, and it's audio that would be more easily used while looking at the phone instead of having it pressed to your face, or could benefit people who need to remain hands free. Do you work for Google on the Android project and don't want the extra work or something?

it's nice but I generally use the USB cable because it's faster

BT FTP is for the times where you don't have a cable or are sending to another device. Doesn't happen every day but it does happen so it's a very nice feature to have.

No argument there. I would, and have used it in a pinch. Don't get me started on my other Bluetooth rant about how it's largely overlooked, undervalued, and Logitech doesn't produce enough mouse or game control models that support it.

Welcome to 2003! (1)

Hazelfield (1557317) | more than 3 years ago | (#35993048)

I bought a Sony Ericsson 8 years ago that had video call capabilities. I didn't even try it once, and it never took off anywhere in the world despite a huge number of phones and networks supporting it. Instead, people used the extra bandwidth to check their mail, surf the web and download ringtones and themes. Last year Apple tried with FaceTime (does anybody use that?) and now it's Google's turn. I don't see that it will pick up this time either.

Kind of funny to see that this feature, which for so long was believed to be the communication of the future, turned out to be a fiasco when the future finally arrived. Apparently we just don't want to see each other when talking on the phone.

Re:Welcome to 2003! (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | more than 3 years ago | (#35993264)

I bought a Sony Ericsson 8 years ago that had video call capabilities. I didn't even try it once, and it never took off anywhere in the world despite a huge number of phones and networks supporting it. Instead, people used the extra bandwidth to check their mail, surf the web and download ringtones and themes. Last year Apple tried with FaceTime (does anybody use that?) and now it's Google's turn. I don't see that it will pick up this time either. Kind of funny to see that this feature, which for so long was believed to be the communication of the future, turned out to be a fiasco when the future finally arrived. Apparently we just don't want to see each other when talking on the phone.

I think a large part of the lack of popularity is that Apple doesn't allow you to run over 3g. Works a treat on 3g if you've jailbroken your iDevice, but otherwise afaik you cannot. According to this article, the anDROID version will not have that limitation.

Re:Welcome to 2003! (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 2 years ago | (#35997682)

and it never took off anywhere in the world despite a huge number of phones and networks supporting it.

False. Video calling was and is extremely popular in Japan and Korea where they have the actual infrastructure to support it at a reasonable price.
When I came to Korea 3 years ago, I didn't go a day without seeing several people using video calling on the train or another place. It's actually gone down now that the iphone has shown up because all the phones don't all work together anymore. Before You could video chat with any phone to any phone. Now it's turned into a headache and become more difficult and less appealing for people to use.

You certainly didn't need wifi before to video chat, but now a lot of apps are garbage unless you're on wifi. It's starting to come around again as more people are getting familiar with smart phones and how to setup various apps and use them.

I can't wait (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | more than 3 years ago | (#35993250)

For some "video chat" with the chick pictured in the article.

Another non standard implementation (1)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 3 years ago | (#35993262)

So where are all the Apple haters now? Apple didn't implement 3G video calls and all the Apple haters said Facetime wasn't "standard" so what about Google not implementing standard 3G video calling?

Re:Another non standard implementation (2)

wall0159 (881759) | more than 3 years ago | (#35993368)

Google talk uses XMPP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Messaging_and_Presence_Protocol [wikipedia.org]
Google video chat uses Jingle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_(protocol) [wikipedia.org]
Both are open, AFAIK.

Re:Another non standard implementation (1)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 2 years ago | (#36000610)

Precisely. Unlike Apple, Google went with standards ... even if they helped make them, they want interoperability. You can use Google Talk from non-Google apps, because its just Jabber. I would've preferred they implement SIP but another standard will do.

Re:Another non standard implementation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35997324)

So where are all the Apple haters now? Apple didn't implement 3G video calls and all the Apple haters said Facetime wasn't "standard" so what about Google not implementing standard 3G video calling?

Well, considering that 3G sucks major donkey balls, I'd prefer them to implement a system not patent encumbered and tied to cell phone data networks. Instead, they chose to use an open sourced standard, which means it works just dandy over WiFi and you don't even have to have cell phone service to use it.

Or you can go with your Apple Facial that you love so much, which means those annoying non-Apple using Plebians won't be able to talk to you. It's a win-win; you and the rest of the iBoys don't have to listen to the Commoners, and we don't have to listen to you.
Now if Apple would just roll out the iNet, an entirely Apple-controlled and Apple-populated version of the Internet. Then we'd all be happy.

The problem with android phones and video chat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35997292)

The problem with android phones and video chat is most android phones have the camera on the wrong side...

Easy fix, video chat in a mirror.

If your sitting there video chatting you cant be doing much else anyways, why not stand in front of a mirror. Ill take video chat on my android please!

Old phones? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35999600)

I hope this is implemented on the older droid phones that don't have multiple cameras.

There are times where I want to show something (a new gadget, a hardware failure, or a stupid dog trick) while talking to someone.

Open Source? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35999710)

Still no Google Talk for linux

http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html

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