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Osama Bin Laden Reported Dead, Body In US Hands

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the check-the-long-form-certificate-to-be-sure dept.

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Reader Tom Hudson, and now several others, have submitted the news that Osama Bin Laden is reportedly dead, and that his body is in the hands of the US military. A statement from President Obama is expected shortly. Watch this space for more details. Update: 05/02 04:01 GMT by T : More coverage at ABC News, at CNN, and at Al Jazeera. The reports say that Bin Laden was actually killed about a week ago by a bomb in Pakistan, and the time taken to confirm his identity via DNA testing helped delay the news. In downtown Austin, Texas, in the time since the story broke I've heard what sound like numerous celebratory gunshots.

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bye bye bin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995218)

bye bye bin.

Re:bye bye bin (5, Insightful)

The End Of Days (1243248) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995246)

And all it cost were our civil liberties, national character, and trillions of dollars...

Re:bye bye bin (2, Interesting)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995314)

Indeed. Disclaimer: I posted this in the last discussion because I did not know there would be a dedicated OBL discussion on Slashdot.

Instead of the "official story" , one of two things really happened. The first possibility is that Osama was killed in the attacks on Afghanistan right after 9/11. The U.S. Government and its crooked contractor buddies kept Osama's death a secret so that they would have an Emmanuel Goldstein, an excuse to institute their bloody, wasteful, and oppressive make-work programs(DHS, Blackwater/Xe, Halliburton/Bechtel, US military and associated contractors) promoting the complete internal and external militarization of America.

The second possibility is that Osama and his family are living happy, luxurious lives under aliases. All of the other consequences from the first possibility above still apply. Remember that his family was evacuated from the U.S. shortly after the 9/11 attacks. His public vilification was very different from the safe and respectful treatment he received privately, courtesy of the U.S. Government. He did us a great service in assisting the CIA and helping perpetuate our war machine and international presence. Now, he is given a silent retirement out of the limelight. Osama and his family are eating seasoned lamb on velvet seats while you and your kids are eating Top Ramen.

Re:bye bye bin (-1)

jaxtherat (1165473) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995380)

Or, you know the third possibility; he never existed. None of the horrific realities that have transpired since 9/11 actually needed a physical person to be turned into an Emmanuel Goldstein.

This death (real of otherwise) will change nothing.

Re:bye bye bin (4, Insightful)

techsoldaten (309296) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995400)

Or we found him living in a mansion outside Islamisbad and killed him after a firefight.

Not sure what the motivation for making this up would be. There are likely going to be reprisals for this act.

Re:bye bye bin (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995330)

Buzzkillington, is that you?

Re:bye bye bin (3, Interesting)

suso (153703) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995334)

Actually, that whole woosy feeling that I got after 9/11 for several years, not unlike getting kicked in the beanbag, has almost gone away. Bringing it back up is kinda like the bully saying "There is that dweeb that I kicked in the balls a few years ago. Ha ha".

Re:bye bye bin (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995452)

But we lost something really great. Few people know he was a hardcore Linux advocate. He didn't hate freedom. He hated American freedom. RIP Mr. Laden. GNU won't be the same without you.

Mission Accomplished (4, Insightful)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995222)

Now let's bring 'em home.

Re:Mission Accomplished (1, Troll)

couchslug (175151) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995254)

OBL died long after the struggle and mission expanded.

Re:Mission Accomplished (3, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995356)

...and long after most Americans have forgotten why we went to war in the first place. I remember a few years ago, when everyone said we had to attack the Iraqis because they were terrorists. We had to attack the Afghanis because of terrorism, and of course we had to forget that most 9/11 hijackers were Saudis. Most people seem to have lost track those reasons at this point, and you would think that fighting Iraqis and Afghanis was just a fact of life. Fighting terrorism now means having a TSA agent fondle you or getting photographed naked.

Re:Mission Accomplished (5, Insightful)

DreadPiratePizz (803402) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995324)

Do you think that just by killing bin laden Al Queda will just magically vanish?

Re:Mission Accomplished (3, Insightful)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995370)

It's a good start. When the next leader of Alqueda steps up, we just kill him too, lather rinse repeat.

Re:Mission Accomplished (2, Insightful)

bunratty (545641) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995464)

Ah, just like the war on drugs. Did you think that cocaine would become unavailable after leaders of the Medellín Cartel were killed, too?

Re:Mission Accomplished (5, Funny)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995386)

Of course, that's how boss battles work, isn't it?

World War 2 ended when a prisoner escaping from some castle gunned down Cyborg-Hitler, after all.

Awesome (5, Funny)

LearnToSpell (694184) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995224)

Will you stop grabbing my balls at the airport now?

Re:Awesome (1)

getto man d (619850) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995306)

B-b-b-ut the terrorists are still out there! We must remain vigilant at home and abroad.

Re:Awesome (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995376)

You just like getting your balls grabbed, don't you?

Re:Awesome (3, Interesting)

ShakaUVM (157947) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995454)

Fortunately, TSA agents are starting to get in trouble for their molestation of thousands of innocent passengers each day.

Oh, sorry, not for the actual molestation, you know, but joking about it afterward.

I wish I could have shot Osama myself for all the wasted hours I've spent in TSA lines because of his antics.

where's the long form? (5, Funny)

trybywrench (584843) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995230)

I want to see a long form death certificate

(stolen from fark)

Re:where's the long form? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995312)

Convenient results that will certainly place the Birther's plight on the back burner.

Re:where's the long form? (4, Interesting)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995332)

"If Obama preempts the end of The Apprentice to announce they've killed Bin Laden that is going to be the most epic ownage ever." - Comment on Fark.

I'm studying for finals right now (after taking a 4 year break between MS and BS). I was a freshmen in college when 9/11 hit. Every single other person in this was building was 8-10. Most don't even remember the 1st attack on the WTC. My college had 4xT1s providing 6Mb. My cable connection is faster. ALL of my news came from Slashdot and Fark. Both were barely struggling to survive. Yahoo, MSNBC, CNN all went down. Fark had to roll over to new threads every 300 or so posts (300 posts is considered low these days).

There was no reddit, digg, facebook or twitter. SMS was just a very expensive feature that no one used.

Fark's #1 Thread. [fark.com]

Slashdot's Thread/a [slashdot.org]

I know it's not really over, but it's still kind of surreal.

Re:where's the long form? (1)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995446)

Barely survived? Hell, they were the only things that worked! Remember when the NYT went to *text-only* on the home page?

Surprised they announced it (0)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995236)

I would have thought that his death would be kept quiet to keep up the fear of a looming attack. Well, I was wrong.

(Perhaps he was really killed in 2002 and they waited this long to announce it?)

Re:2002 (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995350)

Nah, any examiner would request to see the body, do a fifteen minute test, and determine if he died last week or *nine years ago*. I'd put money on them "purposely letting him slide through the clutches" but I'm darn sure we'd have a federal referendum if they lied quite that blatantly for 9 years.

Re:Surprised they announced it (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995466)

I would have thought that his death would be kept quiet to keep up the fear of a looming attack. Well, I was wrong.

They don't need him anymore. Now it can be "the Taliban" in Afghanistan (who co-incidentally announced their new offensive today) and "the Regime" in Lybia, and whomever else provides a convenient target. It has been demonstrated that citizens of the so called "democracies" have been sufficiently desensitized that they will accept the bonds of slavery as long as they are fed enough American Idol, Charlie Sheen, Royal Weddings and Nascar/Football/Cricket/etc.

What hasn't changed, however, are the laws of economics. Crude oil is near its 52 week highs (again), and still China's economy grows. They are now Germany's biggest market. All those industrial machines and BMW's are going to need fuel. The war for the last barrels of crude is bound to begin soon as we pass peak oil, and the West is starting with a numerical and financial disadvantage. Technology means nothing when you can't feed your army.

Slashdot (0, Troll)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995238)

Timely as ever.

Oh, wait, this isn't in reference to tonight's announcement, this is actually a reference to "Mission Accomplished [wikipedia.org]"

Re:Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995374)

The Mission Accomplished speech was referencing the end of operations in Iraq, not the capture of bin Laden nor the end of al Qaida.

Bin Laden murdered? (1, Troll)

Dainsanefh (2009638) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995248)

where is the due process?

Re:Bin Laden murdered? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995298)

Enemy combatants and mass murderers don't warrant due process.

Re:Bin Laden murdered? (5, Interesting)

hcmtnbiker (925661) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995410)

Better put, people who shoot at you when you go to take them in for questioning don't warrant due process, the mission included bringing him back alive if circumstances allowed.

Re:Bin Laden murdered? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995360)

Oh, he got his due.

Re:Bin Laden murdered? (2)

AdamHaun (43173) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995420)

This seems like a pretty solid example of "resisting arrest". Obama said there was a gunfight in the compound.

Re:Bin Laden murdered? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995490)

There's no need for due process for enemies of the state. For your freedom-hating talk you shall be downmodded into oblivion.

NIGGERS (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995250)

Niggers!!! Niggers!!! Niggers!!! Osama Obama it doesn't matter they are all niggers!!

Hell. Fucking. Yes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995252)

Hell. Fucking. Yes.

Re:Hell. Fucking. Yes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995438)

Hell. Fucking. Yes.

WOOO! GO 'MERICA! YEAH! no more terrorism! WOOO!

Netcraft confirms it... (5, Funny)

thelenm (213782) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995262)

Netcraft confirms it: Osama bin Laden is dead.

Re:Netcraft confirms it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995304)

Pretty good uptime until this.

A few details (4, Informative)

sayfawa (1099071) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995266)

This article's a bit heavier on details:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/americas/reports-say-osama-bin-laden-dead-us-president-obama-to-speak-soon/article2006299/ [theglobeandmail.com]

Mr. bin Laden was killed at a mansion outside the Pakistani capital Islamabad, CNN reported. A senior U.S. counterterrorism official told Associated Press Mr. bin Laden was killed in a ground operation in Pakistan, not by a Predator drone. A senior Pakistani intelligence official confirmed that he was killed in Pakistan.

Re:A few details (5, Interesting)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995372)

One wonders if he was moving around pretty frequently, and this just happened to be where they caught up with him, or if a mansion outside the capital is actually a good-enough hiding spot. If the latter, he must have had the same sort of 'deep roots in the community' that have historically allowed organized crime leaders to live more or less openly for long periods of time...

not buying it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995274)

Yeah, he's dead, but he's been dead for year.

And watch... (0, Troll)

Lanteran (1883836) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995282)

As we wake up tomorrow, and nothing changes.

Re:And watch... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995404)

This may be true if you are a terrorist..

Re:And watch... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995414)

Don't worry, Obama explicitly said as much in his speech ("we must remain ever vigilant").

From what I'm hearing, expect civil rights to be further restricted in the coming months to protect from "counter attacks" over Bin Laden's death.

After all, this was never the War on Al Qaeda. This is the War on Terror, and Terror still looms... (And don't forget to lock your doors, Al Qaeda is coming to get us back over Bin Laden!)

Good for Obama (1)

Dr Kool, PhD (173800) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995284)

He got him in less than three years. Good job bro, you did it. Now let's get the hell out of Afghanistan + Iraq and stop molesting our own people at the airport.

Re:Good for Obama (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995346)

The folks actually searching for him have been doing so for 10 years, don't give him the credit for their efforts. He just happens to be in office at the right time.

Re:Good for Obama (1)

bunratty (545641) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995358)

Al Queda won't magically disappear just because its leader was killed. Many U.S. presidents have been killed while in office, yet the U.S. goes on.

Well there you go (3, Insightful)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995288)

The prez just won his second term

Re:Well there you go (1)

twilight30 (84644) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995338)

The prez just won his second term

my thoughts exactly

Re:Well there you go (1)

k_187 (61692) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995430)

Maybe, if it was this time next year, I'd say yes. There's a lot of time between now and the election though.

Re:Well there you go (2, Insightful)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995378)

No, just ask GHW Bush how well that works out. Short answer: it doesn't, especially when the economy goes to shit. His best hope is for the Republicans to follow tradition and nominate a terrible candidate.

Re:Well there you go (1)

amiga3D (567632) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995412)

He should have waited until 3 months before the election. The American public have a short term memory for achievements.

Re:Well there you go (0)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995474)

One, I doubt anyone will forget the trillions of dollars of debt, and two, if you are right, Osama apparently came up with a far better plan to destroy this country than flying a few airplanes into a building.

America (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995294)

FUCK YEAH!

Competence (0, Troll)

0WaitState (231806) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995302)

Hey Republicans, this is what competence looks like. Would you please stop running assclowns for preznit now?

Re:Competence (1, Insightful)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995428)

Yeah, because nothing says competence like a guy who shows up an hour late, spouts platitudes to an empty room, and leaves. Seriously, the only competence involved is in the US military and possibly the CIA. Presidents - from Team Red or Team Blue - have next to nil to do with this sort of thing.

Re:Competence (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995460)

Hey Republicans, this is what competence looks like. Would you please stop running assclowns for preznit now?

Your president killed Osama himself?

now the US can slash defense spending (1)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995308)

no need to have wars in iraq and afghanistan now that America is safe.

Wasn't he already reported dead? (1, Insightful)

SonicSpike (242293) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995316)

Weren't there multiple reports from credible sources that OBL was dead years ago?

I don't trust the media, but I trust the government even less.

Looks like Ron Paul will be vindicated in the 2012 election as his message of "bring the troops home" will resonate loud and clear.

Re:Wasn't he already reported dead? (2)

DJ Particle (1442247) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995366)

December 2001 - reported in a newspaper in Egypt. There was even a funeral and an obit. Fox reported it too but removed the story soon after.

A great anti-imperialist has died (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995320)

Osama bin Laden was born very, very wealthy. He could have lived a life of luxury like most wealthy Arabs, living like a parasite off poorer Arabs. But he was a kind and gentle man, marrying three unmarriable widows as three of his four wives, and dedicating his life against the Zionist and western imperialism which exploits poor and working class Arabs in the Third World. He died on May Day, and his fight against imperialism will be something I can remember every May Day. One day, the evil empire of the United States will collapse, just like the World Trade Center did, just like all empires have. "The raging tide of the people of the world against the U.S. aggressors is irresistible. Their struggle against U.S. imperialism and its lackeys will assuredly win still greater victories." - Mao Zedong

Celebrity Apprentice (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995364)

For anyone else who missed the end of the Celebrity Apprentice because of the speech, Hope got fired.

Sad Chapter (4, Funny)

bradrum (1639141) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995368)

Can we please forget this sad chapter in our history? Thousands and thousands have died, trillions spent, and liberties seemingly irrevocably lost.

I shed a tear and will not celebrate this at all

Blowback is a bitch... (1)

Bentov (993323) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995392)

I'm all for taking his ass out, but damn, you know they are about to fuck up some city, somewhere...

And Sarah Palin says... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995432)

Can't wait to see Palin claim credit for this, somehow, someway...

This is news for nerds? (1)

Loopy (41728) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995434)

I mean, it's good that the asshole is dead but we need a(nother) flamewar on slashdot about it?

A Little Late (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995440)

Too bad we hadn't gotten him 10, or even better, 20 years ago.

Of course, if he'd been arrested the day after 9/11, tried in a civilian court, and sentenced to death, he'd still be sitting on death row now, and for years to come.

What about Cheney? (-1, Redundant)

crhylove (205956) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995458)

Dick Cheney was responsible for 9/11. He told the scrambled fighter jets to stand down. When are we going to catch him?

Near Islamabad? (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995472)

The details will be interesting. He was reportedly killed in a mansion near Islamabad, Pakistan. That's the capital city. He hasn't been hiding out in the boonies.

Damn... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#35995484)

Guess I shouldn't have been using an iPhone after all.

-OBL's ghost

And Yet Tomorrow... (1)

bogie (31020) | more than 2 years ago | (#35995488)

The Far Right will still find some way to complain about this and slam Obama.

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