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Smithsonian Unveils 'Art of Games' Voting Results

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the toys-for-bob-got-robbed dept.

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AndrewGOO9 writes "The Smithsonian American Art Museum, in recognizing that electronic games are a part of our artistic history has now unveiled the 80 games out of a proposed pool of 240 that will be included in The Art of Video Games exhibit running from March 16, 2012 to September 30, 2012. While the winning games (PDF), as voted by gamers and art enthusiasts alike, are all stand-out titles, it goes without saying that this a huge step in the recognition of video games as artisitic masterpieces."

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who selected these games? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052270)

Flow and Flower but no Katamari Damacy, Day of the Tentacle or The secret of monkey island?

Re:who selected these games? (2)

EvanED (569694) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052350)

Money Island is in the "additional games" section at the end. I'm not sure, but I sort of get the impression that those were chosen by the Smithsonian's own judges instead of popular vote.

Re:who selected these games? (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052670)

Online voters. Vox populi. That's who.

Re:who selected these games? (1)

pjt33 (739471) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052950)

Not just that. There were some obvious gaps in the categories put up to vote, presumably due to space reasons. (Although I personally can't understand not including a single Amiga category. Copper hacks FTW. Console sales numbers aren't everything).

Re:who selected these games? (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052726)

More importantly, Fallout over Planescape (not even a finalist!), Doom 2 over Deus Ex or Thief 2 (hell, Doom 2 over Doom 1??), and no Ico under the Playstation section??

Re:who selected these games? (2)

PyroMosh (287149) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053512)

I voted in this, and after reading the rules they laid out, I wasn't too happy about it.

I can't seem to find a link to the rules as they appeared on the site when voting was still going on. But they put clear emphasis on visuals, because it's a museum exhibition.

While I see the logic of this, it takes away from the message. If you truly believe games are art, you can't use mere visuals for the criteria of their artistic merit any more than you would for a film. Just being visually striking doesn't make a game art any more than it makes a film art.

That combined with the fact that many people probably never read the rules, and sheer popularism skewed the results... I think that perhaps the "people's choice" should have been a section of the exhibit, with the majority chosen by a panel of judges within the industry. There are many gems that are simply not well known, and other games that were highly influential, but have largely been forgotten.

But games aren't art... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052288)

C'mon Ebert's already told us that Games aren't art.

Re:But games aren't art... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052564)

He retracted that, later. He didn't quite say that games were art, but he decided that he wasn't knowledgeable about the medium to comment either way.

Of course, decades from now, it will seem ridiculous that anybody ever thought they weren't.

Re:But games aren't art... (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052930)

Looking at the "winners," he's clearly right. The Smithsonian is demonstrating a fallacy: that putting a fact to a vote proves it.

Decent List (1)

Mursk (928595) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052296)

Nice to see Brutal Legend on there. Suprised to see E.T. nominated. :) And Secret of Monkey Island is there under "Additional Games," at least.

Re:Decent List (1)

Mr Z (6791) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052456)

I guess it's there to make the Atari Pac-Man look good.

In general, I have to say that some of these selections are quite head-scratch-inducing.

Re:Decent List (2)

spauldo (118058) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052606)

I guess they felt like they had to include Pac-Man, but since the only console from that era that had a decent Pac-Man was the Atari 5200 (which had much lower sales than the 2600), we got the crappy 2600 version.

Granted, it was one of the better games for the 2600 (there were a _lot_ of crappy 2600 games - it was a really limited platform), but Pac-Man was famous for the arcade version, not any console.

Sad to see no Metroid (the NES version), but there were so many games for the NES that it's natural some would be left out. I'd have voted for Bionic Commando, myself.

Re:Decent List (1)

scot4875 (542869) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052748)

Sad to see no Metroid (the NES version), but there were so many games for the NES that it's natural some would be left out

It was another nominee, and Metroid Prime 2: Echoes made the list, so the series was represented fairly enough IMO as a huge Metroid fan.

I'd have voted for Bionic Commando, myself.

Also a good choice.

--Jeremy

Re:Decent List (1)

qubezz (520511) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053460)

Pac-man for the Atari 2600? That nomination is unbelievable, it was a bastardized unfun version of the arcade with awful gameplay and sound.

For the 2600, a game like Warlords [youtube.com] reigns for playability, it is still a fun game for four people you can take out at a party. As far as 'art' for a 2600, they should at least be games that are original to the 2600 - Demon Attack [youtube.com] pulls off some cool raster color effects and fast gameplay without hugh blocky pixels, about the limit of what the 2600 can do with 4k RAM. Even Pitfall [youtube.com] with it's blocky graphics got a nod in last season's Robot Chicken.

Re:Decent List (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36053692)

THis wasnt supposed to be a "good games" list, but "art of games" list. I just don't get how "Combat" makes the list, frankly.

Re:Decent List (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36053764)

Head shaking too, as that's all I seemed to do while readnig this list. Sure looks like the 'famous' games made it anyway. Also, only one PC section? And could they not make up their minds about what genre was what? Really all over the place and it looks like some were shuffled around on different systems to try and ensure a place in the gallery.

Also, no Castlevania: Symphony of the Night? Colour me shocked!

Re:Decent List (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052468)

But why Zelda instead of Chrono Trigger, I can not understand.

Re:Decent List (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052546)

A lot of great games got the short end of the stick because of they way they set up the categories. I voted, and I knew when I saw this category that Chrono Trigger didn't stand a chance against the Legend of Zelda nostalgia ;(

Re:Decent List (1)

Mursk (928595) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052736)

Yeah, that was one of the ones I didn't agree with. But anyone who's ever paid attention to the yearly character content polls at GameFAQs would have predicted it. Legend of Zelda or Mario will always win when they are an option.

Re:Decent List (1)

ELitwin (1631305) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052678)

Having actually read TFA, it didn't make any mention of why video arcade games were excluded from the contest.
I still remember being so excited when Pac-Man was announced for the Atari 2600, and so utterly disappointed at the graphics and game-play when I actually popped in the cartridge for the first time.

This is especially head scratching since they are including a Pac Man arcade console as one of the playable games at the exhibition.

Re:Decent List (1)

HeckRuler (1369601) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052684)

Suprised to see E.T. nominated.

I guess even satanists get to vote.

Amiga games? (1)

gbrandt (113294) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052298)

Where are the Amiga games. They were game changers, brought the arcade quality video and audio to the home....

Seems odd.

TOTALLY AGREE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052310)

Amiga was the best computer ever made. Far superior to anything since.

Re:Amiga games? (2)

McNihil (612243) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052352)

With a list that doesn't have Elite nor Stellar 7 is not a entirely correct list. I still remember playing Arctic Fox on my Amiga... though it was not totally finished. Where are all the games from Psygnosis? Some from Epyx... granted the list would be enormous if one really had to take into consideration of everything.

Re:Amiga games? (1)

McNihil (612243) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052370)

And where the heck is Dragon's Lair?

Re:Amiga games? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052512)

In the dust bins of history where it belongs.

Re:Amiga games? (1)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052884)

Actually, it was remastered in high definition video for the iPad...

Re:Amiga games? (1)

Dahamma (304068) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053784)

I couldn't stand DL, but you have to admit it did define the genre of laserdisc games (and was probably more art than game anyway).

Re:Amiga games? (1)

TheCouchPotatoFamine (628797) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052422)

Psygnosis... yes! Where is Shadow of the Beast.. any game where i die just to hear the music ... is ART!

Re:Amiga games? (1)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052676)

What makes you think it was supposed to be "correct"? It's not an awards ceremony, just a selection of iconic computer games. It's a matter of course that it will miss some important ones.

Re:Amiga games? (1)

McNihil (612243) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053522)

It's about history more than anything else and I do understand that all notable games may not be able to be in the final list BUT I do have to disagree with the general voting of this subject matter. Games evolved and there is quite a lineage between thoughts in some games that were expanded upon and so forth. Just because a game may have been successful doesn't mean that it should be on the list. Same goes with their Movie/Film list... I was under the impression that they would have some form of criteria where the History of games... well lets say the "red thread" or "the skeleton" if you will was more important... so IMHO the list is not entirely correct nor deep enough.

Sure... granted I've been in the game biz since the early days and may be vehemently biased on this subject matter.

If its History it should never miss some important ones... how about we cut out 10% of all US presidents... sure presidency is more important than computer games... that is not the problem... History is and it needs to be somewhat correct.

Yeah who am I kidding? The winners write the history... thus no Amiga in there what so ever.

I am very sad that this is happening with technology history... I can see why it happens in politics but technology? That's just bad... what's next... science being equally sifted from the theories that didn't work fully despite the fact that one can learn interesting things through failure and not tread the same path again.

Ok .... stopping my whiny rant before I blow a fuse.

Re:Amiga games? (1)

Co0Ps (1539395) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052374)

Totally second this... Also, I think first defining the "genres" are stupid. If you have (for one era) 3 great games in one genre and 3 mediocre games in one genre you are forced to pick 1 great game and 1 mediocre game instead of 2 great games... Having to choose between "Portal" and "Half-Life 2" is insane.

Re:Amiga games? (1)

serviscope_minor (664417) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052558)

HL2 was excellent, but HL1 was the really pioneering game that had the film-like scripting really integrated. HL2 was like a cool, modernised HL1. But which should be in there? My vote would go for 1 since it was so unusual and outstanding at the time.

Re:Amiga games? (1)

bluescrn (2120492) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052400)

the Amiga was massive in Europe, but seems to have been much less significant in the US?

I dont understand what the "Target" category is? (2)

putch (469506) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052372)

Looks like it includes Diablo II, Goldeneye and Space Invaders among others.

Re:I dont understand what the "Target" category is (2)

DeKO (671377) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052598)

Apparently, games where you launch deadly projectiles at enemies. I'm surprised they didn't have a "Jump" or "Save the world" genre to match that. Read it as "random genre because we don't actually play games so we have no clue".

Sad not to see "System Shock" (1)

CharonX (522492) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052378)

I'm a bit sad not to see System Shock on that list. I still see it as one of the keystone games that took the action genre to the next level, from the "shoot everything" story-light (*cough*Doom*cough*) to something with more depth and character development.

Re:Sad not to see "System Shock" (1)

flibby (928270) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053198)

I think Deus Ex pretty much filled it's place, but for some reason it got beaten by Doom II

It also goes without saying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052386)

It also goes without saying that this post marks the beginning of EDITORS NOT BEING ABLE TO FUCKING SPELL being recognized as an "artisitic" masterpiece, whatever the FUCK that's supposed to mean.

Re:It also goes without saying (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052944)

Ironic, since the same editor modified my submission today to replace the perfect word with a less apt one.

Zelda: The Videogame of Time (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052390)

5 Zelda games made the list? Really? This seems like a strange way to organize games to include (by system). Why were these systems chosen over other systems that didn't make it as far? I think the fact that 5 games all from the Zelda franchise (which, lets face it, they aren't all ground breaking) shows that this was a strange way of going about choosing which games to include.

Re:Zelda: The Videogame of Time (2)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052764)

Most gamers grew up on Nintendo, and thus tend to overrate Zelda and Mario games.

Wing commander is not there (1)

Zaph0dB (971927) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052412)

Pity. I thought it was a great series of games, especially the 4th one. Best space-simulator of its time (in my opinion). Also was disappointed that Archon lost.

Re:Wing commander is not there (1)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052728)

You're wrong. Wing Commander was what ruined computer games for a while, with the introduction of "full motion video" and whatnot. It was, however, what killed the Amiga as the gaming champion.

Re:Wing commander is not there (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052960)

Full motion video? you mean cut-scenes?

Because things like Dragon's Lair and Space Ace (which, honestly, should have been locked onto this list with marine epoxy) did video long before Wing Commander showed up.

Re:Wing commander is not there (1)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053528)

Possibly true, but the Wing Commander series turned full motion video (not cut scenes, but actual actors doing their thing) into an ideology. It was horrible, horrible, and needs to be forgotten.

NO pinball games? (0)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052432)

NO pinball games?

Re:NO pinball games? (1)

spauldo (118058) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052642)

Console pinball didn't offer anything really revolutionary over regular pinball.

I mean, sure, you can break the laws of physics in video pinball, but it's still pinball.

no this should of had real pinball games (0)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052958)

no this should of had real pinball gamesgames

why these dumb arbitrary categories? (2)

Punto (100573) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052454)

what's the point of making up arbitrary categories and pick one title out of each? do they do the same with all other media? are there "action paintings"? they have Link to the past, Earthboud and Chrono Trigger in the same category, they all deserve recognition.

Re:why these dumb arbitrary categories? (1)

TheSambassador (1134253) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052628)

Seriously. It's not like they give different awards to "Movies that were on DVD" vs "Movies that were on Blu Ray." Why are there separate categories for separate platforms? Why are these games "art"?

I'm sorry, but while I loved many games on that list, only a few of them transcend the "Entertainment" category and become whatever "art" is.

2D vs. 3D, or painting vs. sculpture (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053464)

It's not like they give different awards to "Movies that were on DVD" vs "Movies that were on Blu Ray." Why are there separate categories for separate platforms?

It might have something to do with 2D vs. 3D, or painting vs. sculpture, or something like that.

Re:why these dumb arbitrary categories? (1)

vandelais (164490) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053000)

I feel Chrono Trigger should have edged out Link to the Past, although they are both spectacular.
While the Zelda game had great and linear engaging puzzles and control and balance, I felt Chrono had the much more craftily interwoven storyline and aesthetic visual presentation you would associate with the intent to recognize video games this way.

Minecraft?? (1, Insightful)

malakai (136531) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052458)

Really? Really?

Re:Minecraft?? (1)

Jello B. (950817) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052470)

Minecraft is bad. It's true.

Re:Minecraft?? (4, Interesting)

TheSambassador (1134253) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052584)

Art != "Visually Appealing" (though I happen to think that Minecraft is very beautiful in its own way).

Minecraft offers an experience that's pretty different from almost every other game, including the ones that has influenced it. It's not even complete, yet it's consumed the time of so many people and has sold over TWO MILLION copies despite a complete lack of promotion and advertising (other than word of mouth, obviously). It's a game with an extremely simple interface and complete freedom. Regardless of whether or not you think it's "boring" or that the graphics are "bad," it does deserve recognition as a unique experience. You can farm, explore caves, and even create basic computers WITHIN Minecraft! Minecraft really is what you make it... something that not many games, even the sandbox ones, can claim.

Of course, I'm not really sure if this is even worth responding to, as your argument is "Minecraft? Really?" Which really isn't an argument at all.

Re:Minecraft?? (4, Insightful)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052894)

And i will expand on what you said to point out that there are some really beautiful things in Minecraft [youtube.com] . Also some incredibly bizarre things and some horrifying things as well of course.

Some of the generated landscapes can be impressive, and of course what people then do with it is often even more impressive. Yes everything is blocky, but a lot of stuff is built to such a large scale that it ends up looking like pixel-art.

So it's a game that allows its users to create incredibly impressive stuff. Stuff that a lot of people like looking at and find beautiful/awe-inspiring/disgusting or in some other way emotionally moving. How is that not as close to what "real" art is supposed to do as we can reasonably define?

And before anyone decides to argue that most of that is user created content and not part of the game itself as originally shipped, how can you contemplate whether video games are art without considering the interactive part of "interactive entertainment [wikipedia.org] "?

Re:Minecraft?? (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052974)

But giving it this recognition is kind of like calling a box of paints "art".

Re:Minecraft?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052712)

Yes, really.

Videogames aren't just the "graphics", "sound", "gameplay", or "storyline". Videogames are all that, including the news that they generate (good and bad), their development process, and the culture that surrounds them. That's all part of the "art of videogames". Yes, really.

Like it or not, Minecraft has attracted a lot of attention and it's developing a community and culture around it that is worthy of mention in an exhibit dedicated to the art that is video games.

Re:Minecraft?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052720)

It's hard to argue with the surprisingly different and addictive gameplay of a quasi-retro game from a nobody that took the world by storm.

Stupidest list possible (1)

ElusiveJoe (1716808) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052466)

I keep asking myself why. Why did they divide games by platform? Why there is a "PC" and "Modern Windows" platforms? Why did they divide games by four genres (one of them they 'invented')? Why 5 Zelda games? Why sequels instead of originals? Why did they chose what they chose, and what "art" all this games have in them?

Elite (4, Interesting)

God Of Atheism (1003892) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052476)

Without this game among the nominees, this list is worthless.

Re:Elite (1)

squidflakes (905524) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052530)

Agreed, along with its spiritual successor EVE.

Re:Elite (2)

julesh (229690) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053760)

Agreed, along with its spiritual successor EVE.

?

I'm not sure in what way EVE can be described as Elite's spiritual successor. OK, both are set in space, and have trading and combat elements. But there are quite a few games that came between the two that you can say that for. And:

Elite: twitch-based, emphasises accuracy of aiming, allows players complete freedom to maneuver
EVE: strategic, aiming performed automatically, maneuvering is by selection from a limited set of commands (approach, orbit)

Hell, where in Wing Commander (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053336)

at least the fourth installment?

Being old school I would want to see Starflight in there :P

Weak without Unix games (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052520)

What, no Rogue? Zork? Adventure? Nexuiz? Has the Smithsonian been living under a rock?

Re:Weak without Unix games (1)

julesh (229690) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053780)

What, no Rogue? Zork? Adventure? Nexuiz? Has the Smithsonian been living under a rock?

It's not even as though these games were *only* available for Unix systems. All of them had conversion for more mainstream gaming platforms, too. Hell, I remember playing rogue-like games on my Sinclair Spectrum.

Wow, that's some serious pigeonholing (2)

HeckRuler (1369601) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052538)

So they decided that for all videogames throughout time, there are four and only four genres. They are Action, Adventure, "Target*", and Combat/Strategy...
And for each of these we shall choose one per console system. (Oh, and I guess one for old PCs and one for new PCs).

OK, wtf is the "target" genre? Is that like the proto shoot-em-up? One in which you destroy targets?
And why is Portal competing with the gamecube?
And while it's pretty cool that Minecraft made the list, Combat/Strategy? Huh?

Clearly this was put together by someone who simply isn't a gamer. Which is kinda surprising. I mean, this has been mainstream for a while now. You'd think that someone like the Smithsonian would be able to organize this a little better. Or are they too enshrined to be affected by new cultural trends? Are they really just now noticing that game development is bigger then Hollywood?

Re:Wow, that's some serious pigeonholing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36053382)

> Are they really just now noticing that game development is bigger then Hollywood?

Yes.

But, this is a start. I don't consider this exhibit to be a carefully-crafted representation of video gaming culture in the USA. Those of us who have experienced the culture are inevitably going to feel like this is an immature attempt. It does at least expose it to the masses, and it's not an egregious representation. And hopefully it'll cast video gaming in a more positive light than we see in the media sometimes...

Where's Civilization? (1)

isaac (2852) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052542)

Chu-Chu Rocket makes it in but not a single entry in the Civilization series?

I don't understand.

-Isaac

Re:Where's Civilization? (1)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052770)

Then you haven't played Chu-Chu Rocket. Though I do admit that at least one Civilization entry should be there somewhere...

Tetris ? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052544)

Surely Tetris should be on this list!

13 games for miyamoto (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052578)

I guess that'd make him sort of proud.... but the guy is pretty much game jesus by now, so i doubt he cares.

Anyone else... (1)

kvvbassboy (2010962) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052638)

.. thinks that the list gets boring after era 3? And that Wolfenstein should have been there somewhere?

Re:Anyone else... (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053014)

My question was why Doom II and not Doom? Wolfenstein was technically progressive, but artistically Doom clobbered it.

Re:Anyone else... (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053130)

Doom was also just a better game than Doom II I think.

No Nethack or RL at all!? (2)

HeckRuler (1369601) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052658)

HAXS!

Arcade, computer & handheld games? (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052660)

Sure, there's a few computer games on this list, but not many. Overall it seems heavily biased toward console games, leaving out a hefty chunk of arcade and handheld games.

Re:Arcade, computer & handheld games? (1)

pjt33 (739471) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053008)

Roughly speaking, it's categorised by platform and the platforms chosen are those which sold the most.

Re:Arcade, computer & handheld games? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36053122)

and yet more PC's have been used to play games on then any and maybe even all platform sales combined.

DOOM over Deus Ex as a representative of our art? (1)

He Who Has No Name (768306) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052674)

Well... you can sure tell the internet was voting. :\

Re:DOOM over Deus Ex as a representative of our ar (1)

flibby (928270) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053038)

Seriously, what did Doom II do? Deus Ex contributed to the gaming industry more than most games on that list!

Excellent list. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36052696)

The later eras are mostly arguable - and the additional games section. WoW over Everquest? Or dare I say, UO? Please. Hell, there's a conspicuous lack of Ultima, as it were.

But mad props for the recognition of Phantasy Star. Usually gets overlooked by way of frothing-at-the-mouth Squeenix fanboys.

Re:Excellent list. (1)

Mursk (928595) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052772)

Yeah, that's why I described it as a decent list above. It's leaving out some games that at least some people will feel obviously belong there, but it also includes quite a few that are normally overlooked. Overall, it's not bad.

Awesome (1)

BigSes (1623417) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052724)

Have some issues with the list but I still love this kind of stuff. Can anyone recommend something similar or better, perhaps on the East Coast?

Missing game (1)

Nidi62 (1525137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052732)

I for one am appalled that Shaq-fu did not make the list at any point.

But not Braid (2)

webbiedave (1631473) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052774)

The Art of Video Games exhibition will explore the 40-year evolution of video games as an artistic medium (but not Braid), with a focus on striking visual effects (but not Braid), the creative use of new technologies (but not Braid), and the most influential artists and designers (but not Braid).

Re:But not Braid (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053048)

I'm not opening the PDF just to check, but did anyone see any Wii games?

Little Big Planet is what I'm thinking of, here.

There's also a lack of Katamari Damacy in the mix.

Re:But not Braid (1)

webbiedave (1631473) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053124)

I know at least Zack and Wiki was on there (which I'm very pleased about). Don't know if there are others.

Re:But not Braid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36053726)

Umm, LBP is a PS3 game.

It's tokenary. (4, Insightful)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052786)

Everyone's saying "where's this, where's that" and I've agreed with every one of them. My personal bone to pick is the total absence of Uru [wikipedia.org] , one of the sequels to Myst. Go look it up. You'll understand.

The problem with this list is multi-faceted. Remember, first, that the list was selected by the public. This is not something that art institutes generally do (have you ever heard of popular vote picking any other art display? What about one meant to introduce a new topic?) and while we could suggest that it's because they felt they were unequipped to do so, it's not like experts in the field don't exist. They could have asked game reviewers, for example. Or even game designers—artists tend to make good art critics, after all.

But instead they jumped on the populist bandwagon, and did an online poll, because that's what's hip and trendy and gets the kids involved. That's all gaming is to them: something for kids; a passing fad. Actually, it's not even really for current kids, it was for people who were kids during the eighties, and had either an Atari VCS, a Colecovision, an Intellivision, a C64, a NES, or a Master System. The sixteen-bit era is squashed up against the late nineties as if there were no difference, and many important platforms like the Amiga, BBC Micro, and MSX were just left out. Not even the Macintosh gets a mention. And furthermore, the games have to fit into one of a few genres—doesn't that go against the fundamental point of modern art?

The organizers of this presentation aren't looking at games based on the intention, expression and skill of the artists, which is what art critique is supposed to be about. When Ebert said games couldn't be art, it was because he was ignoring the design of game mechanics as an artistic focus, and accused their storytelling and composition of being immature. This presentation gives the impression that he's right due to its lack of care.

Re:It's tokenary. (1)

Nyder (754090) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053398)

Everyone's saying "where's this, where's that" and I've agreed with every one of them. My personal bone to pick is the total absence of Uru [wikipedia.org] , one of the sequels to Myst. Go look it up. You'll understand.

...

Ya, we understand that the game sucks and you were one of the few who never realized it, and are the only person who thinks it should be given credit/award.

dude, the game sucked badly. It's genre, sucked badly.

And when i say sucked badly, I mean, it uses it's teeth in a very painful way. (and didn't swallow, in fact, it spit it on your shoes.)

Never satisfy everyone (1)

Colourspace (563895) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052830)

These lists never really bring gamers into the shared adoration the authors think they might. Thank god there are regular flamewars to participate in, or I'd never need a new keyboard. Having said that, I enjoyed Brutal Legend... But it's inclusion? Not sure about that.

another world/out of this world (1)

Jeek Elemental (976426) | more than 3 years ago | (#36052846)

I didnt see https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Another_World_(video_game) [wikimedia.org] which is one of the few games that really stunned me growing up (on amiga). I still remember the alien voices, animations and ambiance were fantastic.
Gameplay was pretty harsh.
I dont think anything came close until half life, atleast considering overall art direction.

Soul Calibur? (1)

Dails (1798748) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053080)

Soul Calibur was one of the games that made the Dreamcast worth while and is one of the greatest games of all time, certainly best among fighting games. I can't believe there isn't any version of Soul Calibur on any list.

Additional games section (2)

subanark (937286) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053088)

5 games (independent of winning entries) were chosen to be playable for a few minutes during the exhibit. The first two: Pac-Man and Super mario Bros are fine, but:
#3 - The secret of Monkey Island - You can hardly understand this game in only a few minutes
#4 - Myst - Same with this
#5 - World of Warcraft - A few minutes... WTF, how much did Blizzard bribe for this to get setup.

really guys? really? (1)

Neotrantor (597070) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053498)

no earthbound or chrono trigger? really????

Slashdot's page-bottom-quote engine just vomited (1)

nsteinme (909988) | more than 3 years ago | (#36053596)

...on me. It looks like they're in alphabetical order, and thus that i saw approximately half of them. Has anyone else seen this before? Or have the other half? :P

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His idea was to provide an equation that would describe a quantity that would dwindle and dwindle, but never quite reach zero. Historically, he was merely trying to work out his mortgage. Another versatile equation also emerged, one which would define a function that would continue to grow, but never reach unity. This equation can be applied to charging capacitors, over-damped springs, and the human race in general. % Chemist who falls in acid is absorbed in work. % Chemist who falls in acid will be tripping for weeks. % Chemistry is applied theology. -- Augustus Stanley Owsley III % Chemistry professors never die, they just fail to react. % Congratulations! You have purchased an extremely fine device that would give you thousands of years of trouble-free service, except that you undoubtably will destroy it via some typical bonehead consumer maneuver. Which is why we ask you to PLEASE FOR GOD'S SAKE READ THIS OWNER'S MANUAL CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU UNPACK THE DEVICE. YOU ALREADY UNPACKED IT, DIDN'T YOU? YOU UNPACKED IT AND PLUGGED IT IN AND TURNED IT ON AND FIDDLED WITH THE KNOBS, AND NOW YOUR CHILD, THE SAME CHILD WHO ONCE SHOVED A POLISH SAUSAGE INTO YOUR VIDEOCASSETTE RECORDER AND SET IT ON "FAST FORWARD", THIS CHILD ALSO IS FIDDLING WITH THE KNOBS, RIGHT? AND YOU'RE JUST NOW STARTING TO READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, RIGHT??? WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST BREAK THESE DEVICES RIGHT AT THE FACTORY BEFORE WE SHIP THEM OUT, YOU KNOW THAT? -- Dave Barry, "Read This First!" % "Consider a spherical bear, in simple harmonic motion..." -- Professor in the UCB physics department % "Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, it might be, and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic!" -- Lewis Carroll, "Through the Looking Glass" % "Deep" is a word like "theory" or "semantic" -- it implies all sorts of marvelous things. It's one thing to be able to say "I've got a theory", quite another to say "I've got a semantic theory", but, ah, those who can claim "I've got a deep semantic theory", they are truly blessed. -- Randy Davis % Did you hear that there's a group of South American Indians that worship the number zero? Is nothing sacred? % Did you hear that two rabbits escaped from the zoo and so far they have only recaptured 116 of them? % Did you know that if you took all the economists in the world and lined them up end to end, they'd still point in the wrong direction? % Dimensions will always be expressed in the least usable term, convertible only through the use of weird and unnatural conversion factors. Velocity, for example, will be expressed in furlongs per fortnight. % Dinosaurs aren't extinct. They've just learned to hide in the trees. % Do molecular biologists wear designer genes? % Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, and a dark side, and it holds the universe together ... -- Carl Zwanzig % E = MC ** 2 +- 3db % Earl Wiener, 55, a University of Miami professor of management science, telling the Airline Pilots Association (in jest) about 21st century aircraft: "The crew will consist of one pilot and a dog. The pilot will nurture and feed the dog. The dog will be there to bite the pilot if he touches anything. -- Fortune, Sept. 26, 1988 [the *magazine*, silly!] % Economics is extremely useful as a form of employment for economists. -- John Kenneth Galbraith % Economists can certainly disappoint you. One said that the economy would turn up by the last quarter. Well, I'm down to mine and it hasn't. -- Robert Orben % Economists state their GNP growth projections to the nearest tenth of a percentage point to prove they have a sense of humor. -- Edgar R. Fiedler % Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles, called electrons, that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking. Electrons travel at the speed of light, which in most American homes is 110 volts per hour. This is very fast. In the time it has taken you to read this sentence so far, an electron could have traveled all the way from San Francisco to Hackensack, New Jersey, although God alone knows why it would want to. The five main kinds of electricity are alternating current, direct current, lightning, static, and European. Most American homes have alternating current, which means that the electricity goes in one direction for a while, then goes in the other direction. This prevents harmful electron buildup in the wires. -- Dave Barry, "The Taming of the Screw" % Elegance and truth are inversely related. -- Becker's Razor % Elliptic paraboloids for sale. % Entropy isn't what it used to be. % Entropy requires no maintenance. -- Markoff Chaney % Enzymes are things invented by biologists that explain things which otherwise require harder thinking. -- Jerome Lettvin % Eureka! -- Archimedes % Every little picofarad has a nanohenry all its own. -- Don Vonada % Every nonzero finite dimensional inner product space has an orthonormal basis. It makes sense, when you don't think about it. % Every paper published in a respectable journal should have a preface by the author stating why he is publishing the article, and what value he sees in it. I have no hope that this practice will ever be adopted. -- Morris Kline % Everyone knows that dragons don't exist. But while this simplistic formulation may satisfy the layman, it does not suffice for the scientific mind. The School of Higher Neantical Nillity is in fact wholly unconcerned with what ____does exist. Indeed, the banality of existence has been so amply demonstrated, there is no need for us to discuss it any further here. The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each nonexisted in an entirely different way ... -- Stanislaw Lem, "Cyberiad" % Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein % Everything that can be invented has been invented. -- Charles Duell, Director of U.S. Patent Office, 1899 % Everything you've learned in school as "obvious" becomes less and less obvious as you begin to study the universe. For example, there are no solids in the universe. There's not even a suggestion of a solid. There are no absolute continuums. There are no surfaces. There are no straight lines. -- R. Buckminster Fuller % Evolution is as much a fact as the earth turning on its axis and going around the sun. At one time this was called the Copernican theory; but, when evidence for a theory becomes so overwhelming that no informed person can doubt it, it is customary for scientists to call it a fact. That all present life descended from earlier forms, over vast stretches of geologic time, is as firmly established as Copernican cosmology. Biologists differ only with respect to theories about how the process operates. -- Martin Gardner, "Irving Kristol and the Facts of Life". % Experience varies directly with equipment ruined. % Experiments must be reproducible; they should all fail in the same way. % Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. There are many examples of outsiders who eventually overthrew entrenched scientific orthodoxies, but they prevailed with irrefutable data. More often, egregious findings that contradict well-established research turn out to be artifacts. I have argued that accepting psychic powers, reincarnation, "cosmic conciousness," and the like, would entail fundamental revisions of the foundations of neuroscience. Before abandoning materialist theories of mind that have paid handsome dividends, we should insist on better evidence for psi phenomena than presently exists, especially when neurology and psychology themselves offer more plausible alternatives. -- Barry L. Beyerstein, "The Brain and Conciousness: Implications for Psi Phenomena". % Factorials were someone's attempt to make math LOOK exciting. % Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. % Federal grants are offered for... research into the recreation potential of interplanetary space travel for the culturally disadvantaged. % Five is a sufficiently close approximation to infinity. -- Robert Firth "One, two, five." -- Monty Python and the Holy Grail % Florence Flask was ... dressing for the opera when she turned to her husband and screamed, "Erlenmeyer! My joules! Someone has stolen my joules!" "Now, now, my dear," replied her husband, "keep your balance and reflux a moment. Perhaps they're mislead." "No, I know they're stolen," cried Florence. "I remember putting them in my burette ... We must call a copper." Erlenmeyer did so, and the flatfoot who turned up, one Sherlock Ohms, said the outrage looked like the work of an arch-criminal by the name of Lawrence Ium. "We must be careful -- he's a free radical, ultraviolet, and dangerous. His girlfriend is a chlorine at the Palladium. Maybe I can catch him there." With that, he jumped on his carbon cycle in an activated state and sped off along the reaction pathway ... -- Daniel B. Murphy, "Precipitations" % For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. -- H. L. Mencken % For God's sake, stop researching for a while and begin to think! % For large values of one, one equals two, for small values of two. % Fortunately, the responsibility for providing evidence is on the part of the person making the claim, not the critic. It is not the responsibility of UFO skeptics to prove that a UFO has never existed, nor is it the responsibility of paranormal-health-claims skeptics to prove that crystals or colored lights never healed anyone. The skeptic's role is to point out claims that are not adequately supported by acceptable evidcence and to provide plausible alternative explanations that are more in keeping with the accepted body of scientific evidence. -- Thomas L. Creed, The Skeptical Inquirer, Vol. XII, No. 2, pg. 215 % FORTUNE'S FUN FACTS TO KNOW AND TELL: #1 A guinea pig is not from Guinea but a rodent from South America. A firefly is not a fly, but a beetle. A giant panda bear is really a member of the racoon family. A black panther is really a leopard that has a solid black coat rather then a spotted one. Peanuts are not really nuts. The majority of nuts grow on trees while peauts grow underground. They are classified as a legume -- part of the pea family. A cucumber is not a vegetable but a fruit. % FORTUNE'S FUN FACTS TO KNOW AND TELL: #44 Zebras are colored with dark stripes on a light background. % FORTUNE'S GUIDE TO DEALING WITH REAL-LIFE SCIENCE FICTION: #14 What to do... if reality disappears? Hope this one doesn't happen to you. There isn't much that you can do about it. It will probably be quite unpleasant. if you meet an older version of yourself who has invented a time traveling machine, and has come from the future to meet you? Play this one by the book. Ask about the stock market and cash in. Don't forget to invent a time traveling machine and visit your younger self before you die, or you will create a paradox. If you expect this to be tricky, make sure to ask for the principles behind time travel, and possibly schematics. Never, NEVER, ask when you'll die, or if you'll marry your current SO. % FORTUNE'S GUIDE TO DEALING WITH REAL-LIFE SCIENCE FICTION: #2 What to do... if you get a phone call from Mars: Speak slowly and be sure to enunciate your words properly. Limit your vocabulary to simple words. Try to determine if you are speaking to someone in a leadership capacity, or an ordinary citizen. if he, she or it doesn't speak English? Hang up. There's no sense in trying to learn Martian over the phone. If your Martian really had something important to say to you, he, she or it would have taken the trouble to learn the language before calling. if you get a phone call from Jupiter? Explain to your caller, politely but firmly, that being from Jupiter, he, she or it is not "life as we know it". Try to terminate the conversation as soon as possible. It will not profit you, and the charges may have been reversed. % FORTUNE'S GUIDE TO DEALING WITH REAL-LIFE SCIENCE FICTION: #6 What to do... if a starship, equipped with an FTL hyperdrive lands in your backyard? First of all, do not run after your camera. You will not have any film, and, given the state of computer animation, noone will believe you anyway. Be polite. Remember, if they have an FTL hyperdrive, they can probably vaporize you, should they find you to be rude. Direct them to the White House lawn, which is where they probably wanted to land, anyway. A good road map should help. if you wake up in the middle of the night, and discover that your closet contains an alternate dimension? Don't walk in. You almost certainly will not be able to get back, and alternate dimensions are almost never any fun. Remain calm and go back to bed. Close the door first, so that the cat does not wander off. Check your closet in the morning. If it still contains an alternate dimension, nail it shut. % Friction is a drag. % Fundamentally, there may be no basis for anything. % Genetics explains why you look like your father, and if you don't, why you should. % (German philosopher) Georg Wilhelm Hegel, on his deathbed, complained, "Only one man ever understood me." He fell silent for a while and then added, "And he didn't understand me." % God doesn't play dice. -- Albert Einstein % God made the integers; all else is the work of Man. -- Kronecker % God may be subtle, but he isn't plain mean. -- Albert Einstein % God runs electromagnetics by wave theory on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and the Devil runs them by quantum theory on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. -- William Bragg % Going the speed of light is bad for your age. % Good morning. This is the telephone company. Due to repairs, we're giving you advance notice that your service will be cut off indefinitely at ten o'clock. That's two minutes from now. % Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward? That's the trouble with time travel, you never can tell." -- Doctor Who, "Androids of Tara" % Got Mole problems? Call Avogadro at 6.02 x 10^23. % Gravity brings me down. % Gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks. % GREAT MOMENTS IN HISTORY (#7): April 2, 1751 Issac Newton becomes discouraged when he falls up a flight of stairs. % Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. -- Albert Einstein They laughed at Einstein. They laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. -- Carl Sagan % He keeps differentiating, flying off on a tangent. % He: Let's end it all, bequeathin' our brains to science. She: What?!? Science got enough trouble with their OWN brains. -- Walt Kelly % Heard that the next Space Shuttle is supposed to carry several Guernsey cows? It's gonna be the herd shot 'round the world. % Heavier than air flying machines are impossible. -- Lord Kelvin, President, Royal Society, c. 1895 % Heisenberg may have been here. % Heisenberg may have slept here... % Help fight continental drift. % Here is a simple experiment that will teach you an important electrical lesson: On a cool, dry day, scuff your feet along a carpet, then reach your hand into a friend's mouth and touch one of his dental fillings. Did you notice how your friend twitched violently and cried out in pain? This teaches us that electricity can be a very powerful force, but we must never use it to hurt others unless we need to learn an important electrical lesson. It also teaches us how an electrical circuit works. When you scuffed your feet, you picked up batches of "electrons", which are very small objects that carpet manufacturers weave into carpets so they will attract dirt. The electrons travel through your bloodstream and collect in your finger, where they form a spark that leaps to your friend's filling, then travels down to his feet and back into the carpet, thus completing the circuit. Amazing Electronic Fact: If you scuffed your feet long enough without touching anything, you would build up so many electrons that your finger would explode! But this is nothing to worry about unless you have carpeting. -- Dave Barry, "What is Electricity?" % Hi! How are things going? (just fine, thank you...) Great! Say, could I bother you for a question? (you just asked one...) Well, how about one more? (one more than the first one?) Yes. (you already asked that...) [at this point, Alphonso gets smart... ] May I ask two questions, sir? (no.) May I ask ONE then? (nope...) Then may I ask, sir, how I may ask you a question? (yes, you may.) Sir, how may I ask you a question? (you must ask for retroactive question asking privileges for the number of questions you have asked, then ask for that number plus two, one for the current question, and one for the next one) Sir, may I ask nine questions? (go right ahead...) % Houston, Tranquillity Base here. The Eagle has landed. -- Neil Armstrong % How can you do 'New Math' problems with an 'Old Math' mind? -- Charles Schulz % How many weeks are there in a light year? % How often I found where I should be going only by setting out for somewhere else. -- R. Buckminster Fuller % Human beings were created by water to transport it uphill. % I am not an Economist. I am an honest man! -- Paul McCracken % I cannot believe that God plays dice with the cosmos. -- Albert Einstein, on the randomness of quantum mechanics % I do hate sums. There is no greater mistake than to call arithmetic an exact science. There are permutations and aberrations discernible to minds entirely noble like mine; subtle variations which ordinary accountants fail to discover; hidden laws of number which it requires a mind like mine to perceive. For instance, if you add a sum from the bottom up, and then again from the top down, the result is always different. -- Mrs. La Touche % I do not remember ever having seen a sustained argument by an author which, starting from philosophical premises likely to meet with general acceptance, reached the conclusion that a praiseworthy ordering of one's life is to devote it to research in mathematics. -- Sir Edmund Whittaker, "Scientific American", Vol. 183 % "I don't think so," said Ren'e Descartes. Just then, he vanished. % I had a feeling once about mathematics -- that I saw it all. Depth beyond depth was revealed to me -- the Byss and the Abyss. I saw -- as one might see the transit of Venus or even the Lord Mayor's Show -- a quantity passing through infinity and changing its sign from plus to minus. I saw exactly why it happened and why tergiversation was inevitable -- but it was after dinner and I let it go. -- Winston Churchill % I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove it. % "I have examined Bogota," he said, "and the case is clearer to me. I think very probably he might be cured." "That is what I have always hoped," said old Yacob. "His brain is affected," said the blind doctor. The elders murmured assent. "Now, what affects it?" "Ah!" said old Yacob. "This," said the doctor, answering his own question. "Those queer things that are called the eyes, and which exist to make an agreeable soft depression in the face, are diseased, in the case of Bogota, in such a way as to affect his brain. They are greatly distended, he has eyelashes, and his eyelids move, and cosequently his brain is in a state of constant irritation and distraction." "Yes?" said old Yacob. "Yes?" "And I think I may say with reasonable certainty that, in order to cure him completely, all that we need do is a simple and easy surgical operation -- namely, to remove those irritant bodies." "And then he will be sane?" "Then he will be perfectly sane, and a quite admirable citizen." "Thank heaven for science!" said old Yacob. -- H.G. Wells, "The Country of the Blind" % I have hardly ever known a mathematician who was capable of reasoning. -- Plato % I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when you looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. -- Poul Anderson % I myself have dreamed up a structure intermediate between Dyson spheres and planets. Build a ring 93 million miles in radius -- one Earth orbit -- around the sun. If we have the mass of Jupiter to work with, and if we make it a thousand miles wide, we get a thickness of about a thousand feet for the base. And it has advantages. The Ringworld will be much sturdier than a Dyson sphere. We can spin it on its axis for gravity. A rotation speed of 770 m/s will give us a gravity of one Earth normal. We wouldn't even need to roof it over. Place walls one thousand miles high at each edge, facing the sun. Very little air will leak over the edges. Lord knows the thing is roomy enough. With three million times the surface area of the Earth, it will be some time before anyone complains of the crowding. -- Larry Niven, "Ringworld" % I put up my thumb... and it blotted out the planet Earth. -- Neil Armstrong % I tell them to turn to the study of mathematics, for it is only there that they might escape the lusts of the flesh. -- Thomas Mann, "The Magic Mountain" % "I think it is true for all _n. I was just playing it safe with _n >= 3 because I couldn't remember the proof." -- Baker, Pure Math 351a % I THINK MAN INVENTED THE CAR by instinct. -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988. % "I think the sky is blue because it's a shift from black through purple to blue, and it has to do with where the light is. You know, the farther we get into darkness, and there's a shifting of color of light into the blueness, and I think as you go farther and farther away from the reflected light we have from the sun or the light that's bouncing off this earth, uh, the darker it gets ... I think if you look at the color scale, you start at black, move it through purple, move it on out, it's the shifting of color. We mentioned before about the stars singing, and that's one of the effects of the shifting of colors." -- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club % I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING in science called the "reindeer effect." I don't know what it would be, but I think it'd be good to hear someone say, "Gentlemen, what we have here is a terrifying example of the reindeer effect." -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988. % I THINK THEY SHOULD CONTINUE the policy of not giving a Nobel Prize for paneling. -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988. % I use technology in order to hate it more properly. -- Nam June Paik % I would have you imagine, then, that there exists in the mind of man a block of wax... and that we remember and know what is imprinted as long as the image lasts; but when the image is effaced, or cannot be taken, then we forget or do not know. -- Plato, Dialogs, Theateus 191 [Quoted in "VMS Internals and Data Structures", V4.4, when referring to image activation and termination.] % I'm often asked the question, "Do you think there is extraterrestrial intelli- gence?" I give the standard arguments -- there are a lot of places out there, and use the word *billions*, and so on. And then I say it would be astonishing to me if there weren't extraterrestrial intelligence, but of course there is as yet no compelling evidence for it. And then I'm asked, "Yeah, but what do you really think?" I say, "I just told you what I really think." "Yeah, but what's your gut feeling?" But I try not to think with my gut. Really, it's okay to reserve judgment until the evidence is in. -- Carl Sagan % If A = B and B = C, then A = C, except where void or prohibited by law. -- Roy Santoro % If a camel is a horse designed by a committee, then a consensus forecast is a camel's behind. -- Edgar R. Fiedler % If A equals success, then the formula is _A = _X + _Y + _Z. _X is work. _Y is play. _Z is keep your mouth shut. -- Albert Einstein % If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. -- John Kenneth Galbraith % If all the world's economists were laid end to end, we wouldn't reach a conclusion. -- William Baumol % If an experiment works, something has gone wrong. % If entropy is increasing, where is it coming from? % If for every rule there is an exception, then we have established that there is an exception to every rule. If we accept "For every rule there is an exception" as a rule, then we must concede that there may not be an exception after all, since the rule states that there is always the possibility of exception, and if we follow it to its logical end we must agree that there can be an exception to the rule that for every rule there is an exception. -- Bill Boquist % If God is perfect, why did He create discontinuous functions? % If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. -- Albert Einstein % If I have not seen so far it is because I stood in giant's footsteps. % If I set here and stare at nothing long enough, people might think I'm an engineer working on something. -- S.R. McElroy % If in any problem you find yourself doing an immense amount of work, the answer can be obtained by simple inspection. % If it is a Miracle, any sort of evidence will answer, but if it is a Fact, proof is necessary. -- Samuel Clemens % If it smells it's chemistry, if it crawls it's biology, if it doesn't work it's physics. % If it wasn't for Newton, we wouldn't have to eat bruised apples. % If mathematically you end up with the wrong answer, try multiplying by the page number. % If scientific reasoning were limited to the logical processes of arithmetic, we should not get very far in our understanding of the physical world. One might as well attempt to grasp the game of poker entirely by the use of the mathematics of probability. -- Vannevar Bush % If the aborigine drafted an IQ test, all of Western civilization would presumably flunk it. -- Stanley Garn % If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. -- Albert Einstein % If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. % If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can sure make something out of you. -- Muhammad Ali % "If value corrupts then absolute value corrupts absolutely." % If you analyse anything, you destroy it. -- Arthur Miller % If you are smart enough to know that you're not smart enough to be an Engineer, then you're in Business. % If you can't understand it, it is intuitively obvious. % If you haven't enjoyed the material in the last few lectures then a career in chartered accountancy beckons. -- Advice from the lecturer in the middle of the Stochastic Systems course. % If you push the "extra ice" button on the soft drink vending machine, you won't get any ice. If you push the "no ice" button, you'll get ice, but no cup. % If you rap your knuckles against a window jamb or door, if you brush your leg against a bed or desk, if you catch your foot in a curled- up corner of a rug, or strike a toe against a desk or chair, go back and repeat the sequence. You will find yourself surprised how far off course you were to hit that window jamb, that door, that chair. Get back on course and do it again. How can you pilot a spacecraft if you can't find your way around your own apartment? -- William S. Burroughs % If you steal from one author it's plagiarism; if you steal from many it's research. -- Wilson Mizner % If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. % Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein % In 1750 Issac Newton became discouraged when he fell up a flight of stairs. % In 1869 the waffle iron was invented for people who had wrinkled waffles. % In a minimum-phase system there is an inextricable link between frequency response, phase response and transient response, as they are all merely transforms of one another. This combined with minimalization of open-loop errors in output amplifiers and correct compensation for non-linear passive crossover network loading can lead to a significant decrease in system resolution lost. However, this all means jack when you listen to Pink Floyd. % IN MY OPINION anyone interested in improving himself should not rule out becoming pure energy. -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988. % In Nature there are neither rewards nor punishments, there are consequences. -- R.G. Ingersoll % In order to dial out, it is necessary to broaden one's dimension. % "In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." -- Carl Sagan, Cosmos % In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion. -- Carl Sagan, 1987 CSICOP keynote address % "In short, _N is Richardian if, and only if, _N is not Richardian." % In specifications, Murphy's Law supersedes Ohm's. % In the beginning there was nothing. And the Lord said "Let There Be Light!" And still there was nothing, but at least now you could see it. % In the beginning there was only one kind of Mathematician, created by the Great Mathamatical Spirit form the Book: the Topologist. And they grew to large numbers and prospered. One day they looked up in the heavens and desired to reach up as far as the eye could see. So they set out in building a Mathematical edifice that was to reach up as far as "up" went. Further and further up they went ... until one night the edifice collapsed under the weight of paradox. The following morning saw only rubble where there once was a huge structure reaching to the heavens. One by one, the Mathematicians climbed out from under the rubble. It was a miracle that nobody was killed; but when they began to speak to one another, SUPRISE of all suprises! they could not understand each other. They all spoke different languages. They all fought amongst themselves and each went about their own way. To this day the Topologists remain the original Mathematicians. -- The Story of Babel % In the course of reading Hadamard's "The Psychology of Invention in the Mathematical Field", I have come across evidence supporting a fact which we coffee achievers have long appreciated: no really creative, intelligent thought is possible without a good cup of coffee. On page 14, Hadamard is discussing Poincare's theory of fuchsian groups and fuchsian functions, which he describes as "... one of his greatest discoveries, the first which consecrated his glory ..." Hadamard refers to Poincare having had a "... sleepless night which initiated all that memorable work ..." and gives the following, very revealing quote: "One evening, contrary to my custom, I drank black coffee and could not sleep. Ideas rose in crowds; I felt them collide until pairs interlocked, so to speak, making a stable combination." Too bad drinking black coffee was contrary to his custom. Maybe he could really have amounted to something as a coffee achiever. % In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. % In these matters the only certainty is that there is nothing certain. -- Pliny the Elder % "In this replacement Earth we're building they've given me Africa to do and of course I'm doing it with all fjords again because I happen to like them, and I'm old-fashioned enough to think that they give a lovely baroque feel to a continent. And they tell me it's not equatorial enough. Equatorial!" He gave a hollow laugh. "What does it matter? Science has achieved some wonderful things, of course, but I'd far rather be happy than right any day." "And are you?" "No. That's where it all falls down, of course." "Pity," said Arthur with sympathy. "It sounded like quite a good life-style otherwise." -- Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" % Information is the inverse of entropy. % Interchangeable parts won't. % Invest in physics -- own a piece of Dirac! % "Irrationality is the square root of all evil" -- Douglas Hofstadter % Is knowledge knowable? If not, how do we know that? % Isn't it interesting that the same people who laugh at science fiction listen to weather forecasts and economists? -- Kelvin Throop III % Isn't it strange that the same people that laugh at gypsy fortune tellers take economists seriously? % "It could be that Walter's horse has wings" does not imply that there is any such animal as Walter's horse, only that there could be; but "Walter's horse is a thing which could have wings" does imply Walter's horse's existence. But the conjunction "Walter's horse exists, and it could be that Walter's horse has wings" still does not imply "Walter's horse is a thing that could have wings", for perhaps it can only be that Walter's horse has wings by Walter having a different horse. Nor does "Walter's horse is a thing which could have wings" conversely imply "It could be that Walter's horse has wings"; for it might be that Walter's horse could only have wings by not being Walter's horse. I would deny, though, that the formula [Necessarily if some x has property P then some x has property P] expresses a logical law, since P(x) could stand for, let us say "x is a better logician than I am", and the statement "It is necessary that if someone is a better logician than I am then someone is a better logician than I am" is false because there need not have been any me. -- A.N. Prior, "Time and Modality" % It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats. % It is contrary to reasoning to say that there is a vacuum or space in which there is absolutely nothing. -- Descartes % It is impossible to travel faster than light, and certainly not desirable, as one's hat keeps blowing off. -- Woody Allen % It is much easier to suggest solutions when you know nothing about the problem. % It is not every question that deserves an answer. -- Publilius Syrus % It is not for me to attempt to fathom the inscrutable workings of Providence. -- The Earl of Birkenhead % It is not that polar co-ordinates are complicated, it is simply that cartesian co-ordinates are simpler than they have a right to be. -- Kleppner & Kolenhow, "An Introduction to Mechanics" % It is now quite lawful for a Catholic woman to avoid pregnancy by a resort to mathematics, though she is still forbidden to resort to physics and chemistry. -- H.L. 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Like modern sex, any number can play. -- Dr. Thor Wald, "Beep/The Quincunx of Time", by James Blish % Mathematicians practice absolute freedom. -- Henry Adams % Mathematics deals exclusively with the relations of concepts to each other without consideration of their relation to experience. -- Albert Einstein % Mathematics is the only science where one never knows what one is talking about nor whether what is said is true. -- Russell % Mathematics, rightly viewed, possesses not only truth but supreme beauty -- a beauty cold and austere, like that of a sculpture, without appe

Denis Loubet? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36053604)

Unless Denis Loubet is on the list, this list is bullshit. Denis Loubet is the artist behind some of the most phenomenal computer games art, namely the ULTIMA SERIES. His work is incredible, and was always ahead of the curve.

But I guess only console bullshit "counts" these days.

biased tp jap crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36053646)

Seems kinda biased to jap shit which seems weird since it's an american museum...

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