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Bin Laden Hideout Recreated In Counter-Strike

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the should-be-done-for-every-workplace dept.

First Person Shooters (Games) 502

dotarray writes "Osama bin Laden's final hiding spot in Abbottabad, Pakistan, has been made into a playable map for Counter-Strike: Source. Honestly, we're a little surprised that it took this long."

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The truth (3, Funny)

redemtionboy (890616) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068214)

The real criminal here is that Pakistani realtor who sold that house for $1,000,000.

Floor plans... (3, Interesting)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068268)

I'm interested to know where the floor plans came from. Real or made up?

Re:Floor plans... (3, Informative)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068300)

I'm interested to know where the floor plans came from. Real or made up?

They look similar to the wikipedia entry for the same [wikipedia.org] - at least the stuff shown in those screen shots.

Re:Floor plans... (2)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068446)

Those are not floor plans. Those are exteriors.

Re:Floor plans... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068802)

Oh. I thought it was the house from Arrested Development.

Re:Floor plans... (1, Troll)

Dr Max (1696200) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068650)

Will Osama get a gun in this game or are they going for the more realistic shoot him in cold blood no pow operation.

Re:Floor plans... (0, Troll)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068676)

I agree, I mean taking credit for 3,000+ deaths in one swoop who were also unarmed should give him the right to a fair trial

Re:Floor plans... (1, Insightful)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068712)

dammit, my 15 modpoints disappeared before i could use any.

you were so getting a troll mod.

EVERYBODY deserves a fair trial, no matter what they've done.

"fair trial" does not mean "let them go with a slap on the wrist". in OBL's case, a "fair trial" would no doubt be a death sentence. but the trial must happen regardless.

at the very least the SEALs could have dropped their weapons, asked the women present to leave and duked it out like honourable scoundrels.

in military slang, "used his wife as a human shield" no doubt actually means "the wife was closest to the door when we kicked it open, so we shot her first".

Re:Floor plans... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068772)

Who's the toll, exactly?

Re:Floor plans... (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068804)

parse error

Re:Floor plans... (5, Informative)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068824)

in military slang, "used his wife as a human shield" no doubt actually means "the wife was closest to the door when we kicked it open, so we shot her first".

The wife rushed the SEALs while OBL was standing there, and they shot her in the leg. They shot OBL in the left side of the head, twice. If they wanted to kill his wife, they would have, especially since she charged them. They didn't kill her though, they left her there with a wounded leg. At any rate, the "human shield" woman, regardless of whether or not she was being used involuntarily, was not the wife in his bedroom and wasn't covering OBL, she was covering one of the other men who died (possibly the courier who fired on the SEALs when they landed, or OBL's son).

Re:Floor plans... (0)

amiga3D (567632) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068854)

In theory I agree with you, about the fair trial at least. Really though, if someone takes credit for murdering over 3 thousand people and brags about it numerous times on video and claims to hopefully slaughter many, many more in the future........can we not presume that he's guilty? How much doubt is there really? As for the rest of your invective I can't say if OBL had a weapon or not. Somehow I doubt that he didn't have one available. Regardless though, I don't really miss the son of a bitch one little bit. To have dragged his ass back to the US and put him on trial would have been such a huge mistake. I can just see him using the trial as a stage for more of his justifying why it's a good thing to kill innocent people for allah. I so agree with President Obama on this one.

Re:Floor plans... (4, Insightful)

Dr Max (1696200) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068774)

uhuh, So you won't mind when an enemy special ops force operates secretly inside the US and assassinates in cold blood your presidents because of the countless international deaths that they ordered.

Re:Floor plans... (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068796)

Dont slippery slope me... you wont win.

Re:Floor plans... (2, Insightful)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068806)

No more than I would mind that same force taking our president captive, locking him up on foreign soil, trying and convicting him.

Is your argument seriously that we should never kill any foreigners because their countrymen might not like it? Or are you one of those comic-book-logic people who thinks that the mere act of a trial is the difference between justice and vengeance? Because that is cargo cult justice - tripe intended to make the hero seem morally superior.

The truth is that the only function of a trial is to ascertain guilt or innocence. The punishment is the part that brings about justice, and when there can be no doubt of guilt, there is no particular need for a trial. We have trials even in cases of "obvious" guilt because sometimes someone who is "obviously" guilty may in fact be innocent. But OBL was at the point where there could never be even a shadow of doubt of guilt.

Re:Floor plans... (5, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068902)

I agree, I mean taking credit for 3,000+ deaths in one swoop who were also unarmed should give him the right to a fair trial

A few considerations:

First, if in fact somebody is particularly, notoriously, heinous, surely they won't exactly be looking forward to a fair trial? All those cases where the 'obvious' guilt of the suspect offends the public should be cakewalks for the prosecution, given the value of rule of law, is the short procedural delay really a big deal?

Second, there are situations(almost certainly not his; but that isn't the point) where the public/media are incorrect. That's sort of the reason that rule of law is considered superior to lynch mobs.

The third is more pragmatic: Against certain classes of opponent(internationally notorious mediagenic terrorist figureheads definitely being among them) fair trials are among the most powerful things you can do to them, the more boring, the better. You don't want the last few pages of their upcoming hagiography to be something out of an action thriller: 'went down in hail of bullets during a shootout with sinister international assassin squad, a true martyr of the movement'. You want it to be as unbelievably dull as possible. 'Taken into custody, charged with X,Y,Z, went before FOO district court, convicted, sentenced, just like any common criminal.' Obviously, getting shot kind of ruins your day; but it buffs the hell out of your legacy. Only cool people get assassinated. They more shadowy and badass the assassins, the better. Getting tried and convicted like any common scumbag, though, especially if the authorities stubbornly treat you neither better nor worse than anybody else being processed through the system, is basically the most banal exit possible.

Re:Floor plans... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068810)

He'll be fucking his pre-teen wife when you kick in the door.

Re:Floor plans... (5, Informative)

Mistlefoot (636417) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068698)

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/05/06/the-actuals-plan-for-bin-ladens-pucca-house/

The Floor Plans

Re:Floor plans... (1)

agendi (684385) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068780)

I think it is interesting that even academics and museum curators are interested in the cultural and architectural meanings in the compound eg. http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/blog/index.php/2011/05/osamaslair/ [powerhousemuseum.com]

I wonder if it will eventually become a tourist destination...

Re:The truth (1)

mr100percent (57156) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068472)

A lot of facts have been "clarified" since the original story broke. Considering it was a mouldy un-air conditioned home, was it really that price?

Re:The truth (2)

SpankR (929572) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068478)

No kidding - 1,000,000 rupees, maybe...

I'ld like to see you try to build a house. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068614)

I bet it would cost you $1,000,000 to build one like that in your good-ol' USA, because of all the regulations and shitty experience you have.

Re:I'ld like to see you try to build a house. (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068878)

I doubt we could build a fancy hut like that in the USA and have it certified as residential or habitable. From the looks of it, it's a small crackerbox house, with apartments in the rear that we would typically call a storage shed,. ( I rent two storage spaces to store useless junk with sentimental value in that appear to be bigger then each room in the outbuilding.)

Well, unless you mean costing that much to grease the hands of the building and code enforcement and zoning commission or something. Then possibly, yes, you could put a slum like that up somewhere where there is a population higher then 30.

Re:The truth (5, Funny)

M. Baranczak (726671) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068760)

Talk Abbottabad place to hide.

Who cares (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068216)

Suck my four inch cock.

Re:Who cares (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068234)

please? I need to be sucked off..

Re:Who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068282)

Oh, now I remember why I stopped playing counterstrike.

Re:Who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068520)

go suck your moms 3ft arabian cunthairs!

Re:Who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068316)

well hung for an asian...

Re:Who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068330)

And also a magnitude or more larger than CmdrTaco.

Missing option (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068222)

I think there is a missing option in Counterstrike: the "shoot the fuck out of the house and sort through the rubble later" -playmode

Re:Missing option (1)

hitmark (640295) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068460)

I think perhaps the game engine is lacking a bit for that to be possible.

Well, it is an fy_ map (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068484)

The map in TFA uses the "fy_" prefix, which is a long-standing way of denoting community maps with no particular objective. The two letters were originally an initialism for "Fuck You" – often bowdlerized to "Frag Yard" or similar.

Been here a while... (1)

hoytak (1148181) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068232)

"Honestly, we're a little surprised that it took this long."

Eh, it just took that long for military intelligence to get it declassified.

Re:Been here a while... (0)

cosm (1072588) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068308)

The administration is having a field day shining their current trophy. I found this the other day though, so not so sure how much it was the president (as much as the media wants to believe).
Obama Hesitated, [patdollard.com] or so this insider claims, and that the whole job was a pseudo-coup where the president was left outside the loop because he was so hesitant on running the op, with the mil-staffers bringing him in on it last minute. Anybody care to refute or know otherwise? Got any Washington insiders round these parts (Like they'd post here, lulz)?

Re:Been here a while... (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068340)

How about the military doesn't care one bit about what the Director of the CIA cares and the rest of that is just anti-Obama derp.

It's only missing "...he was overruled because he is Black and everyone else who decided is White."

Re:Been here a while... (1)

cosm (1072588) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068354)

I don't know that the racist card applies here, but nice try though. What's your point?

Re:Been here a while... (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068398)

Point is, more anti-Obama crap, same as the anti-Bush crap but from another direction.

Originally from here - http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/4/ [socyberty.com]

Then here - http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/skulking-towards-bin-laden-obama-overridden-by-military-and-intel-officials-in-takeout-of-obl.html [typepad.com]

It's been bouncing around since at least the 4th of May - http://mediamatters.org/blog/201105040021 [mediamatters.org] and the original author is known to make up stories for pageviews in the past.

http://ulster-man.blogspot.com/2010_11_01_archive.html [blogspot.com]
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201105040021 [mediamatters.org]

Re:Been here a while... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068604)

How about the military doesn't care one bit about what the Director of the CIA cares and the rest of that is just anti-Obama derp.

It's only missing "...he was overruled because he is Black and everyone else who decided is White."

How is it that he is called "black" when his mother was "white"?
Isn't he "grey"?

Re:Been here a while... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068680)

How about the military doesn't care one bit about what the Director of the CIA cares and the rest of that is just anti-Obama derp.

It's only missing "...he was overruled because he is Black and everyone else who decided is White."

How is it that he is called "black" when his mother was "white"?
Isn't he "grey"?

to black people he's a nigga. to white people he's a nigger. this answer question?

Re:Been here a while... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068352)

Eh I know an old intelligence analyst he was amused that Obama was only involved in a few meetings on this.
Apparently normally a high ranking official who is actively involved in this kind of thing will have dozens of meetings.
Hearsay and not someone directly involved so take it for what it's worth, but I thought it was amusing.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068404)

High ranking officials have lots of meetings. The big boss only has enough to understand the risks (seals killed/held hostage, major backlash from an important "ally", the effective end of his presidency, a major morale boost for Al Qaeda and the Taliban) and rewards and the odds of success before making the call.

That's how pretty much every organization in the world works. You really think CEOs sit in on every design meeting? They, like Obama, have more important things to do than listen to the mucky details that fall outside their realm of expertise.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068740)

exactly - nobody likes a micro-manager.

the public service should be trusted enough to do their jobs without interference, and competent enough to do so without fucking anything up.

if a boss can't trust their staff, you either need new staff or a new boss..

Re:Been here a while... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068356)

So he knew it's a mostly symbolic assassination on foreign soil, with potential for nasty and prolonged backlash?

Re:Been here a while... (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068550)

It wasn't an assassination. Technically speaking Osama could have surrendered, it's just that he'd have to do it immediately without any hesitation to be accepted. But he could have surrendered. I don't think that anybody seriously believed that he could be taken alive.

Re:Been here a while... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068832)

In Russia...they would have had the decency to use poison gas on the targets first (and everybody else in the vicinity).

Re:Been here a while... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068564)

Osama would be dead if he was put on trial in any country on earth.
What would be the point of capturing him? Or do you think we should've left osama alone, to continue plotting ways to kill innocent people around the world?

Re:Been here a while... (5, Informative)

philljcool (1085873) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068630)

Osama would be dead if he was put on trial in any country on earth.

Where any country on earth = Belarus; China; Ecuador; Egypt; India; Iran; Iraq; Israel; Japan; Malaysia; Mongolia; North Korea; Pakistan; Saudi Arabia; Singapore; South Korea; Taiwan; Tonga; United States.
Here in Australia as well as most of the world he would not be put to death.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

CrankyFool (680025) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068658)

Actually, while Israel has a long and storied tradition of killing enemy leaders, when it comes to TRIALS there's only ever been one death sentence imposed in Israel -- Adolf Eichmann. Israel does not have the death penalty.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068744)

i think you'll find most countries have different rules in war time.

it's a war on an abstract concept, but a war nonetheless.

Re:Been here a while... (2)

amiga3D (567632) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068888)

I don't know....I think California might let him off.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

NiceGeek (126629) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068362)

In other words...gossip.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

cosm (1072588) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068374)

My thoughts as well, unless there's corroborating reports. But the reality is it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. The deed is done and us peons have been told how it went down, and that is how it went down.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

jjohnson (62583) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068380)

You can't refute an insider who doesn't exist. The same "journalist" (Ulsterman) claiming to have an insider is also a birther--though curiously, his insider didn't warn him that the long form birth certificate was going to be released.

Re:Been here a while... (0)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068382)

Hurr, gee, looks legit! After all, as a Kenyan Marxist Muslim dithering white-people-hating tribesman-mentality terrorist-pal, Obama would never order the killing of a terrorist! [wikipedia.org] By the way, have you heard that Bill Clinton killed Vince Foster? [wikipedia.org]

Re:Been here a while... (2)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068414)

the president was left outside the loop because he was so hesitant

And he was born in Kenya. Yeah, whatever. It's not like the Tea Party/Birthers are going to give Obama credit for anything he does.

Re:Been here a while... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068444)

He managed to accomplish something bush and cheney couldn't - that's got to count for something.....

Re:Been here a while... (1, Insightful)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068456)

Not to the teabaggers. Remember, they attacked his wife for promoting children's fitness. They claimed that his speech encouraging elementary schoolers to stay in school was Marxist brainwashing. They claimed that letting old people draft a living will was equivalent to setting up death panels to cull the elderly.

These people have no minds of their own. They believe what they are told, when they are told. And if they're told the opposite next week, they'll believe that too.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068556)

Does anybody actually take the tea party seriously? Granted it's hard to define a movement with no membership requirements, but there's plenty of nutters in there to make the rest seem a bit dodgy. The best think the GOP could do at this point is distance themselves from it.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

cold fjord (826450) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068768)

Granted it's hard to define a movement with no membership requirements, but there's plenty of nutters in there to make the rest seem a bit dodgy. .

It's pretty easy to identify the majority of the "dodgy" part of the Tea Party movement.

Dems who created fake Tea Party candidates arraigned in Michigan [nationalreview.com]
Who’s Behind the ‘Crash the Tea Party’ Website? [pajamasmedia.com]
Democrats Embarrassed by Campaign Tricks [nationalreview.com]
Liberal Orgs, Unions Funneling Money to Anti-Tea Party Group [nationalreview.com]

Does anybody actually take the tea party seriously?

It looks like it, yes.

The National Review Institute has obliged Representative Waters, commissioning McLaughlin & Associates to take a detailed look at tea partiers: both the 6 percent of the 1,000 likely voters polled in mid-January who told McLaughlin that they had participated in tea-party rallies and the additional 47 percent who said they “have not participated in a tea party protest but . . . generally agree with the reasons for those protests.” The results dispel a number of myths.

The first is that the tea partiers are driven by racial animus against the president. Actually, a third of the people who participated in tea-party rallies say that they approve of Obama’s performance in office and a fifth say that they voted for him in 2008. Five percent of them are black, 11 percent Hispanic. Of those who agree with the protests, 29 percent approve of Obama’s performance. Waters and Krugman can rest easy.

The second myth is that the tea partiers are unpopular. Krugman wrote last April that the tea parties “have been the subject of considerable mockery, and rightly so,” and Brooks speculated that “the tea-party tendency” might “be the ruin of the Republican party, pulling it in an angry direction that suburban voters will not tolerate.” Some Republican officials worry that media criticism and Democrats’ attacks on the activists have made it politically risky to associate themselves with the tea-party movement.

The polls do not bear out this fear. Most voters don’t consider themselves well-informed about the tea parties, but have a favorable view. As noted already, 53 percent of the electorate look sympathetically on the tea parties. McLaughlin also asked likely voters which characterization of the tea parties they leaned toward: an “anti-government, fringe organization that is driven by anger” or a group of “citizens concerned about the country’s economic future.” A majority of 57 percent chose the benign characterization while only 19 percent disagreed. Even a plurality of self-identified liberals went with “concern” rather than “anger.” -- The Coming Tea-Party Election [nationalreview.com]

Party Smartly [nationalreview.com]

Re:Been here a while... (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068844)

Yeah, I'm sure those mean old Democrats forced practically ever single Republican pundit, senator, congressman, and governor to back the Death Panels lie. I'm sure the Democrats forced the Republican state governments to push through "Birther Bills." And after 18 months of teabaggers screaming that "Obamacare will gut Medicare", it was those mean old liberals who forced the GOP to vote for a budget to end Medicare once and for all.

Your party is filled with liars and thieves and scum of the worst sort. Stop rationalizing it, and leave them. If you don't, you're either a moron or vermin. No intelligent and decent person can associate with them.

Re:Been here a while... (2, Informative)

downhole (831621) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068736)

Yes, they're not at all like the left wingers attacking Sarah Palin and her children, who are the epitome of class and independent thinking...

Re:Been here a while... (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068750)

Fuck off with that false equivalency bullshit. The left wingers you describe are a tiny and insignificant fringe. The insane teabaggers have seized control of the GOP to the point of pushing out moderate candidates, passing "birther" laws at the state level, and setting up their own caucus. There is no comparison.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068752)

but haven't we always been at war with Eastasia?

Re:Been here a while... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068814)

What was that, the PR stunt about killing someone long dead from an organization that is run by CIA? Come on.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068764)

the president was left outside the loop because he was so hesitant

And he was born in Kenya. Yeah, whatever. It's not like the Tea Party/Birthers are going to give Obama credit for anything he does.

I and they (though I'm not of their ranks) will give Obama credit for leaving when his term is over.

LK

Re:Been here a while... (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068818)

I and they (though I'm not of their ranks) will give Obama credit for leaving when his term is over.

You don't have to love everything he's done. He's disappointed many of his supporters. Those who make up crap like this because they just hate a black man in the White House are the nuts I'm talking about.

Re:Been here a while... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068450)

Eat a cock, you worthless whore.

Re:Been here a while... (1)

grouchomarxist (127479) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068728)

Given the general bias of that site I doubt that report is accurate.

Has to be said.. (1)

Pottsynz (756353) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068270)

"Protect the VIP team!"

The surprise... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068276)

The surprise here is that people still plays counter-strike.

Re:The surprise... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068350)

When Goldeneye Source was released... oh wait.

Osama Bin Zombie? (1)

fragMasterFlash (989911) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068280)

Am I the only one who was hoping for a Left For Dead 2 map with Osama zombies?

Re:Osama Bin Zombie? (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068422)

Well, there is the zombie mod for CS. You could make the original zombie look like OBL, and have all the spawned zombies look like standard terrorists (maybe even give them suicide belts!)

Re:Osama Bin Zombie? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068502)

There's an osama model for UT2004. Turn on Ballistic Weapons, Bloody Hell and pick DM-BlackhawkDown and letter rip.

Boom Headshot! (5, Funny)

cosm (1072588) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068288)

[SERVER] MOTD - WHAT UP INFIDELS
[STS6] - Lock n' loaded
[STS6] - dey r camping tspawn watch out for ak-nubs
[UBL] - I hear something!
[UBL] - hey who teamflashe------
Boom Headshot!
[STS6 -> UBL] [984 HP]
[Announcer] - Counter Terrorist Win
[UBL] - fcking awp nubs
[STS6] - wanna join r clan? not!!!
[SERVER] - User UBL teamkicked reason/trolling

First CS, then.... (1)

strredwolf (532) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068366)

...soon, Team Fortress 2. This will be the next RedFort.

Re:First CS, then.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068570)

Surely you mean the next 2fort.

Re:First CS, then.... (1)

Barny (103770) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068600)

2fort is the new 2fort, it has more of what made 2fort so 2fortish.

Navy SEALs (0)

Wolfling1 (1808594) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068406)

I'll bet the US Navy SEALs had a very detailed counterstrike map of the area, and played it many times before the event.

I'd like to see their version...

Re:Navy SEALs (2)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068448)

Actually, word is that they built a full scale replica and trained in it until they knew the layout like their own home. Retired SEALs have been saying that that's the standard practice for missions like this, whenever there's sufficient time.

Re:Navy SEALs (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068566)

I think that's a pretty good bet. You can't build a replica of the inside of the buildings, but you can at least make a mock up of the rest. I'm not sure why they'd use a computer simulation unless they really had to. OTOH, the secret service moved over eventually so who knows.

Re:Navy SEALs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068734)

Knocking together a replica of a house can be done in two days max. It's not like they need to put plumbing, gas, electricity and so on in it. In the 70s the Israelis made a replica of an entire airport terminal in less than a week when preparing to rescue hostages from a hijacking (Operation Entebbe). And nowadays the Chinese seem to be able to build real skyscrapers in less than a week (there's a time lapse video of it on youtube). So it's definitely standard practice and doesn't take much time but I wonder what they do with the interior - especially if it's not very well known. In the aforementioned hijacking, the Israelis got info from the contractors that had built the airport as well as released hostages but in this case such sources were not available. Maybe they were able to track down some blueprints considering that the compound was built about 5-6 years ago but it seems to me that the construction is so simple that there might not have been any and digging for them would've risked tipping UBL off. I really wonder what the best method to practice is when there's uncertainty about the layout since in this case they had several months to practice for this particular mission and must thus have done it hundreds of times but learning the wrong layout perfectly might backfire, after all. Anybody able to tell me?

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! (-1, Troll)

seyyah (986027) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068434)

Eat our letters.

satellite imagery and more (2)

shuz (706678) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068438)

It is fairly amazing what someone can piece together using well known sources. 30 seconds on google maps gave me satellite imagery and many images from the ground including the downed US helicopter.
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=9294138184493326603&q=Abbott%C4%81bad,+Abbottabad,+Khyber+Pakhtunkhwa,+Pakistan+compound&hl=en&dtab=0&sll=34.169215,73.242433&sspn=0.049606,0.057297&ie=UTF8&ll=34.169848,73.240979&spn=0,0&t=h&z=19&lci=com.panoramio.all [google.com]

Re:satellite imagery and more (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068572)

LOL, and Google says they aren't evil. They could've saved several years worth of work if they'd just pointed that out in bigger letters.

I've been dreaming of this (1)

TigerTime (626140) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068458)

When I first saw that compound, my first thought was how long it was going to take someone to make that into a map. It seemed like the perfect setup for one.

Why stop there? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068578)

They should just model out all of Pakistan and be done with it.

How is it 'playable'? (1)

Lord_of_the_nerf (895604) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068580)

Only one of the terrorists starts with a gun (which changes from day to day depending on who you listen to).

Meanwhile, in news that matters... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068596)

The Pakistani government has outed the CIA's station chief in Pakistan.

Realistic? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068626)

In keeping with realism, will only one side be armed?

TBH (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068682)

I think Osama was an asshole, but I find the celebrations of his death rather distasteful. Maybe it's because I'm not American and I can't begin to understand how American nationalism works, but still, making Counterstrike maps to re-enact somebody's death is just... twisted and wrong.

I think I'm also being realistic when I say the publicity surrounding his death could be turning him into a martyr/hero in some shadier circles, so it may have been a mistake to make it such a big deal. I sincerely hope this doesn't end in retaliation, because terrorism costs lives, and (in the long-term/bigger picture) terrorism funds the various "Patriot Acts" around the world.

Just my 2c. If any morons haven't figured it out, I'm against terrorism in all shapes and forms.

Re:TBH (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068794)

i agree that celebrating someone's cold-blooded killing is a bit morbid, but i think the US has been quite subdued, all things considered.

remember the "we got him" press conference with Saddam Hussein? talk about gloating. there wasn't even discussion about whether the muslim world would see their handling as being a bit distasteful. this time round there's more sensitivity than i've seen from any "winning side". credit where it's due... it's not perfect, but you can't say the handling of this wasn't thought about.

also, consider how "the enemy" handles similar situations. they behead people and put in on youtube. they parade their own dead children through the streets, shouting and shooting AKs in the air. and it goes on and on.

imagine what the headlines would have been if Al Qaeda had captured George W Bush?

Re:TBH (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068870)

making Counterstrike maps to re-enact somebody's death is just... twisted and wrong.

Nothing is sacred on the internet. If you expect anything to be treated with respect, or will be offended if it isn't, just unplug your ethernet cable and turn away. Because it will be disrespected as much as possible. Osama himself would have been much less offended by a CS map than some of these pictures [google.com] , like perhaps this [google.com] (assuming he is as religious as he claimed to be).

CS? (1)

dasherjan (1485895) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068726)

Holy cow Counterstrike is still around!!

as-WashingtonDC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068742)

For our arab friends there is also another map ;)

bin laden (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#36068798)

I'll give the SEAL team the benefit of the doubt about shooting unarmed combatants in the heat of battle (though there doesn't sound like there was much heat from what has been revealed).

Don't they go several times through those mock up buildings featuring pop up posters with cartoonish artworks of hostages and badies prior to deployment anymore?

Plants vs Zombies mod? (1)

Lord_of_the_nerf (895604) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068868)

There's a SEAL on your lawn!
We don't want SEALs on our lawn!

Cool! (1)

atomicbutterfly (1979388) | more than 3 years ago | (#36068876)

To be honest, I don't care so much about the map itself. It's just pleasing to me there are still FPS games out there with map editors that allow you to make such maps in the first place. So many games are missing level editors and mod tools that it's becoming novel for them to do so (and yes CS:S is getting a bit old, but it's still fun and still supported by Valve). If you're trying to make maps for something like one of the latest versions of Call of Duty, forget it.

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